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Title: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: SouJerz on July 15, 2024, 10:35:22 AM
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]pjbraunfitness -  This was my first #cardioqanda since getting out of prison. It’s been nearly 3 years. I may be banned from BSL but I’m allowed to spread love. I will do this every weekday. Thanks for the love. God bless you all ❤️



I know he was in jail and I thought he sold the majority of the company and still had a minority position.  Says he’s banned?
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: BB on July 15, 2024, 05:01:30 PM
One of the conditions of his early release is he can't have any direct contact with the supplement business. He can't go near it, or he goes back in. He's deathly afraid of going back in, so any news, etc.... he gets on BSL comes third hand.

He can do personal gym videos, etc....
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Dave D on July 15, 2024, 05:29:49 PM
Is this true BB?

It seems Singerman hired a much better lawyer than PJ :/
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 15, 2024, 05:34:07 PM
Is this true BB?

It seems Singerman hired a much better lawyer than PJ :/


If you say so...
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: BB on July 15, 2024, 05:41:26 PM
Is this true BB?

It seems Singerman hired a much better lawyer than PJ :/

Yes, he was on a podcast a couple of months ago and mentioned it. He doesn't understand how Aaron, etc.... can go back to RedCon, but he can't deal with BSL. The Judge in charge of sentencing apparently hated PJ, but he's going to keep asking him for some leniency so he can get something going with BSL again.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 15, 2024, 05:42:46 PM
Is this true BB?

It seems Singerman hired a much better lawyer than PJ :/

There is more to it then just lawyers .
Singerman served not even minimum sentence.He was out  in a few months from original 4.5 years .
 

https://www.ironmagazine.com/2022/aaron-the-rat-singerman-out-of-prison-in-2024/


Blackstone was the company they both owned and being sued when they used to sell pro hormones so that’s why Aaron can run Redcon but PJ can’t be associated with Blackstone.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Rambone on July 15, 2024, 05:50:04 PM
Thinking of starting my own supplement company in honor of Prime. Bald Schmoe Labz
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 15, 2024, 05:57:22 PM
Let’s see how long his partnership with Deion Sanders will lasts.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Dave D on July 15, 2024, 06:04:34 PM

If you say so...

I’m not saying anything , I’m asking. Fill us in.

There is more to it then just lawyers .
Singerman served not even minimum sentence.He was out  in a few months from original 4.5 years .
 

https://www.ironmagazine.com/2022/aaron-the-rat-singerman-out-of-prison-in-2024/


Blackstone was the company they both owned and being sued when they used to sell pro hormones so that’s why Aaron can run Redcon but PJ can’t be associated with Blackstone.



I forgot Singerman got out early, good point about blackstone but the same rules should apply to redcon. It should be an industry ban.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2024, 06:12:16 PM
I’m not saying anything , I’m asking. Fill us in.


I forgot Singerman got out early, good point about blackstone but the same rules should apply to redcon. It should be an industry ban.
Careful with those words around Vince, Dave. :o ;D
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 15, 2024, 06:16:48 PM

I forgot Singerman got out early, good point about blackstone but the same rules should apply to redcon. It should be an industry ban.
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I guess different rules apply to the different people under different circumstances.
Only Aaron and few others know how he was able to make that magic from minimum sentence no less then 85%  .
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 15, 2024, 06:27:45 PM
How hard is it to get into the supplement business and make money with it? If I had $100k I could afford to shell out, is that enough? Do you make any money? I’d assume someone else labels and bottles it for you, you hire some BB for maybe $10k of that to pimp it. What else is there, is protein the go to?
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 15, 2024, 06:54:01 PM
How hard is it to get into the supplement business and make money with it? If I had $100k I could afford to shell out, is that enough? Do you make any money? I’d assume someone else labels and bottles it for you, you hire some BB for maybe $10k of that to pimp it. What else is there, is protein the go to?
Market is super saturated and many people failed.Dexter’s Blade Nutrition went down,Phil’s Gift Nutrition as well.Even Stallone used to sell protein puddling that I used to buy when dieting for the show and someone sued him for some stupid recipe BS and Sly closed the shop.
No one  is using bodybuilders ,it is mostly influencers with tons of followers that can boost sales . I noticed tons of new companies popping out with energy drinks.Almost every weekend Vitamine Shoppe sends me emails about $1 drinks that normally costs $3-4.
Jerry Rice  just started GOAT fuel and it’s pretty good.


Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: BB on July 15, 2024, 06:55:11 PM
How hard is it to get into the supplement business and make money with it? If I had $100k I could afford to shell out, is that enough? Do you make any money? I’d assume someone else labels and bottles it for you, you hire some BB for maybe $10k of that to pimp it. What else is there, is protein the go to?

You'd get ate up, lots try and fail.

Singerman and lots of others got in at a good time. Year ago, there was a book - Androgens and Anabolic Agents by Vida that listed lots of orphaned drugs. Lots of old timers knew the book and other sources for things, but were afraid to do anything with it because of the FDA, DEA, etc.... Well, some started to dip their toes in during the year late 90's, early 2000's, and nothing happened.

Then the Prohormone craze hit, and everyone went to the Vida book and dragged out every orphaned steroid, and sold it as a prohormone. Some got banned, but the nature of the laws back then allowed for a tweaking of the molecules, etc.... for it to be perfectly legal again till the FDA banned that version. Then if everything in that family got banned, you just found a new thing in Vida, and ran with it.

Sledge, Gaspari, CEL, IronMag, RPN, BSL all made money hand over fist with the prohormone scheme. The smart guys all took their money and left or pivoted into other things like energy supps and drinks.

BSL only got smacked hard because they kept trying to sell prohormones (steroids) after they were told multiple times to stop.

We'll never see another era like the prohormone one, that's where fortunes were made.

 

Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: wes on July 16, 2024, 01:36:57 AM
Market is super saturated and many people failed.Dexter’s Blade Nutrition went down,Phil’s Gift Nutrition as well.Even Stallone used to sell protein puddling that I used to buy when dieting for the show and someone sued him for some stupid recipe BS and Sly closed the shop.
No one  is using bodybuilders ,it is mostly influencers with tons of followers that can boost sales . I noticed tons of new companies popping out with energy drinks.Almost every weekend Vitamine Shoppe sends me emails about $1 drinks that normally costs $3-4.
Jerry Rice  just started GOAT fuel and it’s pretty good.



Stallone's protein pudding was good shit....(NO HOMO)....they had it backstage at a show I did....I ate a shitload of it.... of course after dieting for weeks and weeks, a chocolate chip rice cake is orgasmic.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: joswift on July 16, 2024, 01:44:51 AM
Lots of people start up supplement companies in order to launder money

Its not hard to get tubs of fart powder wholesale and re-package it

Reminds me of a guy in the 80s at a local gym to me started selling protein powder, everyone at the gym was buying it and growing like weeds, he used to grind up d-bol  and put it in it.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: ziballz on July 16, 2024, 04:10:15 AM
Bother PeeJay was a true visionary with Black Liver Labs   :'(

Very unfortunate he's been banned. Hope his tremendous entrepreneurship & marketing skills help him become a susseful ceo of another venture.

All the best PJ

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Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: SouJerz on July 16, 2024, 09:11:25 AM
Yes, he was on a podcast a couple of months ago and mentioned it. He doesn't understand how Aaron, etc.... can go back to RedCon, but he can't deal with BSL. The Judge in charge of sentencing apparently hated PJ, but he's going to keep asking him for some leniency so he can get something going with BSL again.


THEM again
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 16, 2024, 01:40:27 PM
You'd get ate up, lots try and fail.

Singerman and lots of others got in at a good time. Year ago, there was a book - Androgens and Anabolic Agents by Vida that listed lots of orphaned drugs. Lots of old timers knew the book and other sources for things, but were afraid to do anything with it because of the FDA, DEA, etc.... Well, some started to dip their toes in during the year late 90's, early 2000's, and nothing happened.

Then the Prohormone craze hit, and everyone went to the Vida book and dragged out every orphaned steroid, and sold it as a prohormone. Some got banned, but the nature of the laws back then allowed for a tweaking of the molecules, etc.... for it to be perfectly legal again till the FDA banned that version. Then if everything in that family got banned, you just found a new thing in Vida, and ran with it.

Sledge, Gaspari, CEL, IronMag, RPN, BSL all made money hand over fist with the prohormone scheme. The smart guys all took their money and left or pivoted into other things like energy supps and drinks.

BSL only got smacked hard because they kept trying to sell prohormones (steroids) after they were told multiple times to stop.

We'll never see another era like the prohormone one, that's where fortunes were made.


I took steroids in college, early 2000’s, but had a roommate who took Methyl 1-test which I swear was just like d bol. He put on 15-20lbs and fucking crushed his lifts like us that did steroids. You find out a few years later when they got banned it was pretty much the same thing.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2024, 07:02:11 AM
Market is super saturated and many people failed.Dexter’s Blade Nutrition went down,Phil’s Gift Nutrition as well.Even Stallone used to sell protein puddling that I used to buy when dieting for the show and someone sued him for some stupid recipe BS and Sly closed the shop.
No one  is using bodybuilders ,it is mostly influencers with tons of followers that can boost sales . I noticed tons of new companies popping out with energy drinks.Almost every weekend Vitamine Shoppe sends me emails about $1 drinks that normally costs $3-4.
Jerry Rice  just started GOAT fuel and it’s pretty good.

Yeah, it's every Friday to Sunday.  And a great deal if it is Bang or CB4, etc..   not so great if it is that Kim Kardashianorselookingfac e brand.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2024, 07:04:27 AM
There is no future in the supp business anymore.  It peaked long ago, then prohormones took over, then peptides, then SARMS, now...  the smart people are not putting money into that stuff anymore.  They are more focused on the whatever the next big thing might be.

Eventually you reach the end of the road though.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 17, 2024, 07:06:47 AM
Yeah, it's every Friday to Sunday.  And a great deal if it is Bang or CB4, etc..   not so great if it is that Kim Kardashianorselookingfac e brand.
Yes sir !!
Lots of them taste good and that stuff gives me really good kick  .
I like Bucked up ,Ghost,Gorilla Mind.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2024, 08:10:35 AM
Yes sir !!
Lots of them taste good and that stuff gives me really good kick  .
I like Bucked up ,Ghost,Gorilla Mind.

Are you on an email list that actually tells you the brand they are having?  Mine just announces the $1 sale.  You still have to trudge down there to see what it is. And then only 6 per customer.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 17, 2024, 08:54:45 AM
Are you on an email list that actually tells you the brand they are having?  Mine just announces the $1 sale.  You still have to trudge down there to see what it is. And then only 6 per customer.
I’m getting those emails that tells me brand and only 6 per customer.
One I dislike that tastes like shit is Jocko .
GNC started same thing with $1 drinks .
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2024, 11:45:16 AM
I’m getting those emails that tells me brand and only 6 per customer.
One I dislike that tastes like shit is Jocko .
GNC started same thing with $1 drinks .

Where did you sign up for the list that gives the brand?  Save me a trip down there and being disappointed.  LOL
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 17, 2024, 01:54:12 PM
Where did you sign up for the list that gives the brand?  Save me a trip down there and being disappointed.  LOL
I used to order  stuff online when I’ve competed  and VS automatically got my email and I’m receiving promotions  and deals since then.
Just go to the store and sales person  will do it for you or just place one order online and you should be in the system and good to go.You will collect points as well and get free $$$.
Their website also says what drink is $1 usually posted on Thursdays afternoon or Fridays .
Speaking of deals Amazon prime does prime day and some supps are as low as 40% from retail.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 17, 2024, 02:30:10 PM
Everyone thinks you need a PWO so if you could find a good stimulant you could make money. It would of course be reverse engineered quickly. Something you can really feel and makes you feel good is ideal for repeat customers. I don't know if they put Kratom much in PWOs but something along those lines, hopefully a little addictive too.


I took steroids in college, early 2000’s, but had a roommate who took Methyl 1-test which I swear was just like d bol. He put on 15-20lbs and fucking crushed his lifts like us that did steroids. You find out a few years later when they got banned it was pretty much the same thing.

They still sell Superdrol and M1T OTC as supplements in the UK. They are as potent as anything illegal and they are on steroid lists now instead, those 2 very popular among the pros, Superdol is so potent some advise it should be used for 5 days max before shows lol.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: deadz on July 17, 2024, 03:49:07 PM
This is what happens when you say you’re going to fight the case.
Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: 1Patrick on July 17, 2024, 05:23:04 PM
Vlad Yudin  from Generation Iron interviewed PJ .First part is out.Pretty interesting
 
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Title: Re: PJ BRAUN Banned from BSL?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 18, 2024, 06:27:53 PM
Vlad Yudin  from Generation Iron interviewed PJ .First part is out.Pretty interesting
 
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I wonder why the physique went so early. Quick and dramatic yet used PEDs. Most likely due to the liver cancer or whatever he had, scared him making him stay moderate.