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https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24/index.html
Two students and two teachers were killed in a mass shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, according to Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Hosey. Nine people were hospitalized, the bureau said.
The suspect, a 14-year-old student at Apalachee, will be charged with murder and will be handled as an adult as he moves through the criminal justice system, authorities said.
The high school received a phone call this morning warning there would be shootings at five schools and that Apalachee would be the first, law enforcement sources in Georgia told CNN.
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Fucking lock him up forever at the very least. What a piece of shit. Names colt so I suppose a white kid.
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A fucking shame once again.
Fucking nutbag!!
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Did the CIA send him in?
Let me guess. He made threats over the summer on social media. The FBI was aware of him, and had been watching him. But he was still somehow able to carry out his plans.
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Did the CIA send him in?
Let me guess. He made threats over the summer on social media. The FBI was aware of him, and had been watching him. But he was still somehow able to carry out his plans.
I'll just leave this right here
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I'll just leave this right here
Royalty hit that nail on the head. :(
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I'll just leave this right here
Wow! I’ve been following this all day and haven’t came across this. The sheriff today during his press conference made the case for having armed staff probably without even realizing it
“At approximately 10:23 a.m. officers from multiple law enforcement agencies and Fire/EMS personnel were dispatched to the high school in reference to a reported active shooting," the Barrow County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
Barrow County Sheriff Judd Smith addressed reporters Wednesday afternoon, providing limited details. Smith said he first received a call of an active shooter at 9:30 a.m. “
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They were warned in the morning yet everyone went to school anyways? I would have said fuck it , I’m just going to skip and stay home
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Wow! I’ve been following this all day and haven’t came across this. The sheriff today during his press conference made the case for having armed staff probably without even realizing it
“At approximately 10:23 a.m. officers from multiple law enforcement agencies and Fire/EMS personnel were dispatched to the high school in reference to a reported active shooting," the Barrow County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
Barrow County Sheriff Judd Smith addressed reporters Wednesday afternoon, providing limited details. Smith said he first received a call of an active shooter at 9:30 a.m. “
It looks like there were armed school resource officers at the school and that's who nabbed him?? The cnn link above story says "Law enforcement arrived shortly after those calls, in addition to two school resources officers assigned to Apalachee High.
A resource officer confronted the shooter, who immediately surrendered to the deputy and was taken into custody, Barrow County Sheriff Jud Smith told reporters."
No info there about what time the warning came in to the school. Was it 7am, 9am, how soon before and who ignored it and why?
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Bhanky has an explanation
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They were warned in the morning yet everyone went to school anyways? I would have said fuck it , I’m just going to skip and stay home
Hell yeah Bevo...........you and me both.
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Did the CIA send him in?
Let me guess. He made threats over the summer on social media. The FBI was aware of him, and had been watching him. But he was still somehow able to carry out his plans.
He was upset over the 1980 Mr. Olympia results.
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Wow! I’ve been following this all day and haven’t came across this. The sheriff today during his press conference made the case for having armed staff probably without even realizing it
“At approximately 10:23 a.m. officers from multiple law enforcement agencies and Fire/EMS personnel were dispatched to the high school in reference to a reported active shooting," the Barrow County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
Barrow County Sheriff Judd Smith addressed reporters Wednesday afternoon, providing limited details. Smith said he first received a call of an active shooter at 9:30 a.m. “
Didn't the armed staff not confront the shooter last time? You can give them a gun but it doesn't help if at 12hr Mr security guard is not confronting the shooter. Hell the fucking cops waited last time just set up an exterior barrier and waited for the shooter to run out of targets and bullets
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I'll just leave this right here
Royalty hit that nail on the head. :(
It’s always the same “narrative”.
1) A pimple faced teen with a history of threats on social media.
2) FBI gets involved.
3) FBI allows pimple faced teen to outsmart them.
4) Teen with pimples murders people
5) Media provides coverage of all of the FBI missteps and blunders that permitted pimpled faced geek to evade them and carry out his plan.
6) Democrats scream for gun control.
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It’s always the same “narrative”.
1) A pimple faced teen with a history of threats on social media.
2) FBI gets involved.
3) FBI allows pimple faced teen to outsmart them.
4) Teen with pimples murders people
5) Media provides coverage of all of the FBI missteps and blunders that permitted pimpled faced geek to evade them and carry out his plan.
6) Democrats scream for gun control.
Sad,but true. :(
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It’s always the same “narrative”.
1) A pimple faced teen with a history of threats on social media.
2) FBI gets involved.
3) FBI allows pimple faced teen to outsmart them.
4) Teen with pimples murders people
5) Media provides coverage of all of the FBI missteps and blunders that permitted pimpled faced geek to evade them and carry out his plan.
6) Democrats scream for gun control.
This.
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Pimpled faced geeks are experts at outsmarting the FBI, Homeland Security, ATF, and Secret Service.
But they always get nailed by the local police at the crime scene. They never escape the crime scene.
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Pimpled faced geeks are experts at outsmarting the FBI, Homeland Security, ATF, and Secret Service.
But they always get nailed by the local police at the crime scene. They never escape the crime scene.
And they never go for the vault. You can burn a lot of time in the vault. By the time you walk out of the vault, a horse-toothed fella will be there waiting to greet you with a snub-nose .38, two meatball hoagies and his trademark greeting of, “FBI gorgeous!”
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Pimpled faced geeks are experts at outsmarting the FBI, Homeland Security, ATF, and Secret Service.
But they always get nailed by the local police at the crime scene. They never escape the crime scene.
The FBI handed off to the local police who went out and talked to the dad and accepted whatever he said at face value then did jack shit else. Blame all around here, local LE, Feds, School, parents, all knew, all were ineffective.
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And they never go for the vault. You can burn a lot of time in the vault. By the time you walk out of the vault, a horse-toothed fella will be there waiting to greet you with a snub-nose .38, two meatball hoagies and his trademark greeting of, “FBI gorgeous!”
Implementing our own personal plan of deregulation Mr President
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Incels are the new al-Qaeda.
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Wow! I’ve been following this all day and haven’t came across this. The sheriff today during his press conference made the case for having armed staff probably without even realizing it
“At approximately 10:23 a.m. officers from multiple law enforcement agencies and Fire/EMS personnel were dispatched to the high school in reference to a reported active shooting," the Barrow County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
Barrow County Sheriff Judd Smith addressed reporters Wednesday afternoon, providing limited details. Smith said he first received a call of an active shooter at 9:30 a.m. “
What, so they can stand around and not do anything like at Uvalde?
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You can't arrest someone for saying something online. This isn't the U.K.
Unless you want a surveillance state, don't expect the FBI to keep 24/7 watch on everybody who makes an online threat.
Fuck, half this board would be under watch at this very moment.
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You can't arrest someone for saying something online. This isn't the U.K.
Unless you want a surveillance state, don't expect the FBI to keep 24/7 watch on everybody who makes an online threat.
Fuck, half this board would be under watch at this very moment.
What? You can definitely be prosecuted for making online threats.
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Math teachers often can be quite irritating people, so I can somehow understand his aversity. But, four victims isn't that many so it seems he lacked talent for mass shootings.
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You can't arrest someone for saying something online. This isn't the U.K.
Unless you want a surveillance state, don't expect the FBI to keep 24/7 watch on everybody who makes an online threat.
Fuck, half this board would be under watch at this very moment.
People want freedom... as long as you lock up the "weird" ones preemptively. Everyone knows someone who fits the profile of a school shooter. There are several members here who many think are future serial killers or mass shooters. Just lock them up?
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What, so they can stand around and not do anything like at Uvalde?
There isn’t one person that I know of or read about that doesn’t think that the Uvalde PD weren’t untrained cowards but certain people like to portray them as a blanket statement for all of LE. It’s lame
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Where's the part about him being a trans? You know that's coming.
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Where's the part about him being a trans? You know that's coming.
Finally just last week they released 90 pages of the Tennessee shooters manifesto
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People want freedom... as long as you lock up the "weird" ones preemptively. Everyone knows someone who fits the profile of a school shooter. There are several members here who many think are future serial killers or mass shooters. Just lock them up?
Please name names??!?!!?!
Give me 10 names!!!!
Give me 10 NAMES!!!
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He was upset over the 1980 Mr. Olympia results.
I heard his classmates were making fun of the size of his hands.
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You can't arrest someone for saying something online. This isn't the U.K.
Unless you want a surveillance state, don't expect the FBI to keep 24/7 watch on everybody who makes an online threat.
Fuck, half this board would be under watch at this very moment.
UK would like to deal with Americans
Listen
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What? You can definitely be prosecuted for making online threats.
The threats have to be detailed specific to another person, a willing complainant, and -most importantly- the threat has have had some negative action. Either tge person making the threat had to have taken some action to carry out the threat or the threat was compelling enough to cause the victim to be inconvenienced/take precautions/alter their daily life.
There are elements to every crime. Making an online threat in and of itself falls under free speech, 1st amendment prtotected activity. Usually it becomes a crime when you target a specific person because of their protected class: race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc. Then it becomes harassment.
It has to meet several other elements to be prosecutted for.
Speech in and of itself is not a crime.
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The threats have to be detailed specific to another person, a willing complainant, and -most importantly- the threat has have had some negative action. Either tge person making the threat had to have taken some action to carry out the threat or the threat was compelling enough to cause the victim to be inconvenienced/take precautions/alter their daily life.
There are elements to every crime. Making an online threat in and of itself falls under free speech, 1st amendment prtotected activity. Usually it becomes a crime when you target a specific person because of their protected class: race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc. Then it becomes harassment.
It has to meet several other elements to be prosecutted for.
Speech in and of itself is not a crime.
Yes, it is possible to be criminally prosecuted for making threats. Hope this helps.
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The threats have to be detailed specific to another person, a willing complainant, and -most importantly- the threat has have had some negative action. Either tge person making the threat had to have taken some action to carry out the threat or the threat was compelling enough to cause the victim to be inconvenienced/take precautions/alter their daily life.
There are elements to every crime. Making an online threat in and of itself falls under free speech, 1st amendment prtotected activity. Usually it becomes a crime when you target a specific person because of their protected class: race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc. Then it becomes harassment.
It has to meet several other elements to be prosecutted for.
Speech in and of itself is not a crime.
I’m pretty sure you’re wrong.
If someone says they are going to shoot up X place, that’s a clear and present threat and would constitute a crime.
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No less than the death penalty for that turd.
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No less than the death penalty for that turd.
Would be the humane thing to do in this case.
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I’m pretty sure you’re wrong.
If someone says they are going to shoot up X place, that’s a clear and present threat and would constitute a crime.
No. In and of itself an online threat is not a "clear and present" threat.
SF, a "clear and present" threat requires someone who's making the threat actually be 'present' which would mean they've taken at least some steps to carry out the threat. Especially if they made the threat online and proximal to the threat they are now present at the target of the threat. So, being "present" is a step toward getting arrested versus merely making an online threat.
In order for it to be "clear" there has to be at least some ability to follow through with the threat. Ex: I point a glock 9mm at you and say 'im going to kill you mother fucker!" Versus I point an obviously fake plastic gun that shoots soap bubbles. If Im armed with a water gun, shooting soap bubbles, I clearly don't have the ability to carry out the threat.
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No. In and of itself an online threat is not a "clear and present" threat.
SF, a "clear and present" threat requires someone who's making the threat actually be 'present' which would mean they've taken at least some steps to carry out the threat. Especially if they made the threat online and proximal to the threat they are now present at the target of the threat. So, being "present" is a step toward getting arrested versus merely making an online threat.
In order for it to be "clear" there has to be at least some ability to follow through with the threat. Ex: I point a glock 9mm at you and say 'im going to kill you mother fucker!" Versus I point an obviously fake plastic gun that shoots soap bubbles. If Im armed with a water gun, shooting soap bubbles, I clearly don't have the ability to carry out the threat.
All of the parameters you put out does not have to be met by Florida statute:
There are separate statutes that cover school shooting threats and bomb scares. Florida Statute 836.10, prohibits anyone from making “written or electronic threats to kill, do bodily injury, or conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism.”
Florida law does not state any of the stuff you included such as planned steps, detailed towards a specific person and lead to negative action.
That’s it. So if a student in Florida says “I’m going to shoot XXX middle school up,” yes, they can be charged and convicted.
Some student in Virginia made a bomb threat toward his school and he was arrested and charged.
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All of the parameters you put out does not have to be met by Florida statute:
There are separate statutes that cover school shooting threats and bomb scares. Florida Statute 836.10, prohibits anyone from making “written or electronic threats to kill, do bodily injury, or conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism.”
Florida law does not state any of the stuff you included such as planned steps, detailed towards a specific person and lead to negative action.
That’s it. So if a student in Florida says “I’m going to shoot XXX middle school up,” yes, they can be charged and convicted.
Some student in Virginia made a bomb threat toward his school and he was arrested and charged.
Even still there are variables. This is still a republic and states make their own laws all the time that end up being unconstitutional. So you can go and find a florida statue that criminalizes speech. Lib states pass gun laws all the time that get challenged, make their way up to the Supreme court and then get ruled unconstitutional.
There are rare instances when speech can cause such public alarm that the speech is no longer protected by the constitution. So a bomb threat is akin to this.
The classic example is yelling "fire" in a movie theater. This creates such a public alarm that the reaction could be dangerous, such as a flood of people rushing to one door and people getting crushed.
SF, this isn't a debate. I'm not guessing. Im telling you. This isn't my opinion. Im giving you background on constitutional law. I got better shit to do than argue with you. You can listen and learn or not. And you can play the 'if' game or the 'what about' game all you want. But texting in a forum isn't conducive to that conversation because of the detailed and specific elements of the law.
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Even still there are variables. This is still a republic and states make their own laws all the time that end up being unconstitutional. So you can go and find a florida statue that criminalizes speech. Lib states pass gun laws all the time that get challenged, make their way up to the Supreme court and then get ruled unconstitutional.
There are rare instances when speech can cause such public alarm that the speech is no longer protected by the constitution. So a bomb threat is akin to this.
The classic example is yelling "fire" in a movie theater. This creates such a public alarm that the reaction could be dangerous, such as a flood of people rushing to one door and people getting crushed.
SF, this isn't a debate. I'm not guessing. Im telling you. This isn't my opinion. Im giving you background on constitutional law. I got better shit to do than argue with you. You can listen and learn or not. And you can play the 'if' game or the 'what about' game all you want. But texting in a forum isn't conducive to that conversation because of the detailed and specific elements of the law.
My initial statement was that one can get prosecuted for making online threats and you said “no.” Then you agreed that making a bomb threat is not protected by the first amendment. So my initial statement was correct. What kind of threat did you think I was referring to? The original post was about a school shooting, so naturally my statement about online threats had to do with harming a school, which is 100% a prosecutable offense. You could have just agreed with me since I was right, but you attempted to try and sound smart. So you’re right, it’s not a debate because my initial statement was accurate.
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My initial statement was that one can get prosecuted for making online threats and you said “no.” Then you agreed that making a bomb threat is not protected by the first amendment. So my initial statement was correct. What kind of threat did you think I was referring to? The original post was about a school shooting, so naturally my statement about online threats had to do with harming a school, which is 100% a prosecutable offense. You could have just agreed with me since I was right, but you attempted to try and sound smart. So you’re right, it’s not a debate because my initial statement was accurate.
No
You're contrarian.
LOL at an attempt to sound smart. As if I give a shit what you think. I tried to educate you but you're insistent on being ignorant.
And NO its not 100% prosecutable. You sound like an idiot.just like making an online threat is a "clear and present danger" LOL talk about trying to sound smart.
Do yourself a favor and reread what I wrote instead of trying so hard to think of a rebuttal and you might learn something
The problem with you is you don't know what you're talking about but you're too smug/arrogant to listen to someone who does. So rather than actually learn anything you'd rather engage in tit-for-tat hypotheticals.
Generally speaking threats, with no steps taken to carry out the threat, is simply free speech and you can't get arrested for it you dumb fuck. There's probably half a dozen things you could learn from our conversation here but you're too concerned with matching wits that youll end up just as arrogant and foolish tomorrow as you are today.
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Georgia School Shooter Is LGBT
surprise surprise ::)
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And they never go for the vault. You can burn a lot of time in the vault. By the time you walk out of the vault, a horse-toothed fella will be there waiting to greet you with a snub-nose .38, two meatball hoagies and his trademark greeting of, “FBI gorgeous!”
What are you talking about?
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What are you talking about?
Never seen Point Break, broski?
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Undoubtedly a Woke “non-binary” Rainbow person.
These types historically have been in the care of mental-health professionals and/or living in asylums.
Now the Left elevates them as the pinnacle of humanity.
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Georgia School Shooter Is LGBT
surprise surprise ::)
I'm shocked!
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Giving your 14 year old kid an AR15. What could possibly go wrong?
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Never seen Point Break, broski?
Aha! Great movie. Was only listening to the OST the other day