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He claims to use minimal compounds and limited dosages on and off-season but does anyone believe him?
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He claims to use minimal compounds and limited dosages on and off-season but does anyone believe him?
No one with even a modicum of smartses would believe anything a modern bodybuilder would claim.
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He claims to use minimal compounds and limited dosages on and off-season but does anyone believe him?
I believe him. Without question.
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He is over a gram pre contest for sure.
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He is over a gram pre contest for sure.
At least 2 grams
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Hany was so paranoid his drug advice would leak that he insisted on sending it over by fax. According to Bostin Loyd.
They are all pushing hard like any other bodybuilder trying to be the best. Classic does not mean less drugs, it's the same pretty much. Which in practise means 3-4 grams at the peaks. Come on guys, this is decades old info. Yes Bumstead may be conscious of his health, I think he had some genetic kidney issue, but the competition doesn't care about your issues.
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We’re talking about creatine cycles, correct?
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Bumstead eats lots and lots of eggs.
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He claims to use minimal compounds and limited dosages on and off-season but does anyone believe him?
I bet he's not cycling around in daisy dukes on a Queer Tricycle
like someone on this Board & no taking 50+iu of GH on contest day
;D ;D :D ;D :D :D ;D
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wasn't he having kidneys issues by his first win ?
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Just like everyone else, his cycle is as much as he can take without croaking.
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Bumstead eats lots and lots of eggs.
Just had 4 pasture-raised organic eggs with orange yolks. Will this make me big and strong like Mike O’Hearn?
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Hany was so paranoid his drug advice would leak that he insisted on sending it over by fax. According to Bostin Loyd.
They are all pushing hard like any other bodybuilder trying to be the best. Classic does not mean less drugs, it's the same pretty much. Which in practise means 3-4 grams at the peaks. Come on guys, this is decades old info. Yes Bumstead may be conscious of his health, I think he had some genetic kidney issue, but the competition doesn't care about your issues.
I agree. One gram is basically 400-500 mgs of test and a comparable amount of an anabolic. That’s a gym rat dose. Setting aside GH, I don’t see him going lower than 3 grams at a minimum using at least 3-4 compounds.
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He is over a gram pre contest for sure.
Yes, but how far over.
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His juiced up sister was busted in a high profile steroid ring along with her husband Iain Valerie
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Melissa-Bumstead.04.jpg)
Her physique should tell you the quality of drugs Chris has had access to since he was a teen.
And whatever happened to going off season with these IG bodybuilders? They are all gonna drop dead very soon
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His juiced up sister was busted in a high profile steroid ring along with her husband Iain Valerie
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Melissa-Bumstead.04.jpg)
Her physique should tell you the quality of drugs Chris had access to since he was a teen.
And whatever happened to going off season with these IG bodybuilders. They are all gonna drop dead very soon
I believe it was for consumption, not selling.
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Just had 4 pasture-raised organic eggs with orange yolks. Will this make me big and strong like Mike O’Hearn?
You have to be consistent and eat those eggs everyday and you will have to eat many more than 4 a day.
Do you like eggs? You must learn to love eggs.
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Chris and Ian had their drugs sent to them from Canada to where they were staying n got busted...his sisters name was on the package. If I remember it wasn't a crazy amount though
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Strange - we have so many Experts on what dosages & drugs all these
pro's are using at any particular time - Yet are any of these Experts
pro bodybuilders & if not why not. ??
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You have to be consistent and eat those eggs everyday and you will have to eat many more than 4 a day.
Do you like eggs? You must learn to love eggs.
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Love is a strong word, natty.
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Classic is using the same boat load of drugs as any other pro bodybuilder. They might leave the insulin and growth hormone out of the equation to keep a small waist.
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Looks like he's done
He will be making the announcement this weeeknd
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH O Thany
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Looks like he's done
He will be making the announcement this weeeknd
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH O Thany
He should. He’s got 24 million followers on IG, a supplement line, a bad hair transplant, a new baby and a kidney disease or whatever he’s got. Just do some TRT, keep raking in the cash and hang the wet-look thong high and dry.
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His juiced up sister was busted in a high profile steroid ring along with her husband Iain Valerie
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Melissa-Bumstead.04.jpg)
Her physique should tell you the quality of drugs Chris has had access to since he was a teen.
And whatever happened to going off season with these IG bodybuilders? They are all gonna drop dead very soon
Would hit.
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He should. He’s got 24 million followers on IG, a supplement line, a bad hair transplant, a new baby and a kidney disease or whatever he’s got. Just do some TRT, keep raking in the cash and hang the wet-look thong high and dry.
lol they always seem to make the hairline at the front overly straight. Having been to Armenia I am not a big Turkey fan.
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Just had 4 pasture-raised organic eggs with orange yolks. Will this make me big and strong like Mike O’Hearn?
It more than likely will do just that Bone,,,,,,but the side effect is that you will end up hung like a parakeet! :D
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It more than likely will do just that Bone,,,,,,but the side effect is that you will end up hung like a parakeet! :D
My balls have been deflating throughout the day. Is that normal?
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My balls have been deflating throughout the day. Is that normal?
Eggs will do that to you just ask Nat !! :D
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Classic is using the same boat load of drugs as any other pro bodybuilder. They might leave the insulin and growth hormone out of the equation to keep a small waist.
Bullshit.
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Eggs will do that to you just ask Nat !! :D
(https://giffiles.alphacoders.com/234/23459.gif)
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Bullshit.
Yes, Chris only uses enough drugs to keep him just enough to beat his nearest rival, he doesnt take any more because hes concerned for his health.. ::) ::)
he takes as much as he can , his genetics take care of how much he grows...
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Yes, Chris only uses enough drugs to keep him just enough to beat his nearest rival, he doesnt take any more because hes concerned for his health.. ::) ::)
he takes as much as he can , his genetics take care of how much he grows...
Personally,I think Chris is completely natty.
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His juiced up sister was busted in a high profile steroid ring along with her husband Iain Valerie
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Melissa-Bumstead.04.jpg)
Her physique should tell you the quality of drugs Chris has had access to since he was a teen.
And whatever happened to going off season with these IG bodybuilders? They are all gonna drop dead very soon
Definitely 3-4 grams is the minimum for Chris. In this photo it looks like his sister has disproportionate thigh development. Maybe she didn't tense her left leg?
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3-4 grams really?
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I realize GetBig is where all the pharmacists and drug gurus live-so my question: is there anyone on here who takes the doses y’all are claiming- and what do you really look like?
Other than Hanky of course who can’t be trusted to give an honest answer about anything
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His juiced up sister was busted in a high profile steroid ring along with her husband Iain Valerie
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Melissa-Bumstead.04.jpg)
Famke Jansen Juicing?
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Famke Jansen Juicing?
Geez. I thought the same thing. Just couldn’t remember that actress broad’s name.
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Geez. I thought the same thing. Just couldn’t remember that actress broad’s name.
Getting jacked for new Taken movie
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I realize GetBig is where all the pharmacists and drug gurus live-so my question: is there anyone on here who takes the doses y’all are claiming- and what do you really look like?
Other than Hanky of course who can’t be trusted to give an honest answer about anything
I have taken high dosages. I have always said the #1 thing in bb is genetics, if the fibers aren't there to begin with it doesn't matter what you take, you can't grow. Therefore you can 'know' bodybuilding drug use but may not look like anything yourself. I always looked way unimpressive, but I can still play with different dosages and get a feel for what it does.
I don't think there are any drug gurus on getbig or promote themselves as one. Most don't even read my PED related posts, it's not that kind of forum.
I had a confident answer upthread but that's because it's no secret what they do. And anyone is free to try the same cycles themselves, it's not even expensive. But generally these physique guys are actually trying to gain as much muscle as possible but it doesn't come easy if you have genetics for 'just' classic. And not to forget Bumstead is a very good bodybuilder period, would do great in open bb too. I could go into detail on why 'we' 'know' approximately what he is doing but it's not that interesting.
ESFitness is another user who I believe took as much as he claimed, said "6 grams is the sweet spot." Which is an extreme claim and not many have the balls to do such. Not to diss ESF in any way but he looks like "nothing" comparatively to bb competitors. A while back I happened upon his recent posts on IG and he said he now has a serious roid related issue.
I'm sure my post is garbled and perhaps answered something you didn't even ask, but anyway...
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Strange - we have so many Experts on what dosages & drugs all these
pro's are using at any particular time - Yet are any of these Experts
pro bodybuilders & if not why not. ??
Thank you. You are right, everyone knows nothing.
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:P
3-4 grams really?
What's so special about that? In the world of professional bodybuilding, that's really not much.
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:P What's so special about that? In the world of professional bodybuilding, that's really not much.
No one was taking over 2grams back in the early mid 90s, pharma gear wouldnt allow you to
two shots a week of the original parabolon was enough for anyone
Its only the underground lab shit today that warrants 4 grams and above
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No one was taking over 2grams back in the early mid 90s, pharma gear wouldnt allow you to
two shots a week of the original parabolon was enough for anyone
Its only the underground lab shit today that warrants 4 grams and above
I don't know where you got that information from, but it's not true. If someone told you that, they were either ignorant or lying.
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I don't know where you got that information from, but it's not true. If someone told you that, they were either ignorant or lying.
I competed back then, I discussed gear with people, hell I know what they bought and how much they bought
You didnt get guys buying 50 10ml vials for a show like you do today
People ordered a hundred shots of testoviron or testex at most
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I would suspect the Classic division competitors would use less drugs than the open BB division pros. You can just look at the physiques and tell something is missing. I suspect that "something" is nonstop cycles of high doses year around and GH and insulin. The guts and the skin condition are proof of that.
Is there any Classic competitors that have the purplish skin tone indicating high BP like some of the open BBers do?
That being said, nobody but Chris knows what he is on. Everything else is just a guess.
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I competed back then, I discussed gear with people, hell I know what they bought and how much they bought
You didnt get guys buying 50 10ml vials for a show like you do today
People ordered a hundred shots of testoviron or testex at most
National competitions? I know a few competitors who took 6-10 grams per week of Polish pharmaceutical Omnadren. Bodybuilders in the off-season, and powerlifters in the season
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National competitions? I know a few competitors who took 6-10 grams per week of Polish pharmaceutical Omnadren. Bodybuilders in the off-season, and powerlifters in the season
10 gms at 250ml a ml is 40ml of oil a week on just test
what else where they taking as well as test?
Where were they putting all that?
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10 gms at 250ml a ml is 40ml of oil a week on just test
what else where they taking as well as test?
Where were they putting all that?
Front delts, side delts, rear delts, traps, pecs, lats, biceps, triceps, glutes, thighs, calves. Powerlifters added orals to that. Off-season bodybuilders who used megadoses of Omnadren did not inject anything else, maybe some orals.
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Front delts, side delts, rear delts, traps, pecs, lats, biceps, triceps, glutes, thighs, calves. Powerlifters added orals to that. Off-season bodybuilders who used megadoses of Omnadren did not inject anything else, maybe some orals.
sounds good on paper but just try it, the site pain and lack of oil dispersal would soon start mounting up, one bad shot can leave you sore for a week.
Plus all that oil has to go through your kidneys and liver, you would feel like shit, its like chemo levels of drugs ffs
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I loved me some Omnadren in the amps......Sust was also great.
The stuff today doesn`t compare.
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I can't imagine doing 40ml a week, like DJ would say fuk dat shit.
Lately I have been pinning once every 2 weeks around 1.2grams, I should be doing it every week.
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I can't imagine doing 40ml a week, like DJ would say fuk dat shit. noise
Lately I have been pinning once every 2 weeks around 1.2grams, I should be doing it every week.
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I loved me some Omnadren in the amps......Sust was also great.
The stuff today doesn`t compare.
Agreed- The underground gear just doesn't have the impact of the Real Pharmaceutical gear.
I used to get my Sust from the NAPP labs in Cambridge UK made for organon - by fuck did they
Work 😊
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I can't imagine doing 40ml a week, like DJ would say fuk dat shit.
Lately I have been pinning once every 2 weeks around 1.2grams, I should be doing it every week.
I hated doing 1-2 shots per week......I couldn`t imagine doing all those shots.
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Agreed- The underground gear just doesn't have the impact of the Real Pharmaceutical gear.
I used to get my Sust from the NAPP labs in Cambridge UK made for organon - by fuck did they
Work 😊
Yup,the real deal gear was awesome.
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From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.
One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!
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I have taken high dosages. I have always said the #1 thing in bb is genetics, if the fibers aren't there to begin with it doesn't matter what you take, you can't grow. Therefore you can 'know' bodybuilding drug use but may not look like anything yourself. I always looked way unimpressive, but I can still play with different dosages and get a feel for what it does.
I don't think there are any drug gurus on getbig or promote themselves as one. Most don't even read my PED related posts, it's not that kind of forum.
I had a confident answer upthread but that's because it's no secret what they do. And anyone is free to try the same cycles themselves, it's not even expensive. But generally these physique guys are actually trying to gain as much muscle as possible but it doesn't come easy if you have genetics for 'just' classic. And not to forget Bumstead is a very good bodybuilder period, would do great in open bb too. I could go into detail on why 'we' 'know' approximately what he is doing but it's not that interesting.
ESFitness is another user who I believe took as much as he claimed, said "6 grams is the sweet spot." Which is an extreme claim and not many have the balls to do such. Not to diss ESF in any way but he looks like "nothing" comparatively to bb competitors. A while back I happened upon his recent posts on IG and he said he now has a serious roid related issue.
I'm sure my post is garbled and perhaps answered something you didn't even ask, but anyway...
Thanks Van B! You always give honest answers and I appreciate that.
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From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.
One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!
Shaun posted a vid a couple years ago admitting to 7ml a day
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From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.
One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!
GEEZUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Shaun posted a vid a couple years ago admitting to 7ml a day
That is fucking insane.
A guy on gh15`s board did 105 shots per week................when he posted a pic,he looked a total disproportioned mess with torn bodyparts and horrific proportions.
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Shaun posted a vid a couple years ago admitting to 7ml a day
Shaun lived in long Eaton just outside Nottingham & his gym was there,
Its only about 20mls from mine.
I bet shaun never told about having his knees baseball batted because he tried screwing
Warren Treasure for Money.
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Shaun lived in long Eaton just outside Nottingham & his gym was there,
Its only about 20mls from mine.
I bet shaun never told about having his knees baseball batted because he tried screwing
Warren Treasure for Money.
Shaun passed away didn`t he?
EDIT: I don`t mean from the baseball bat, but that must have left a mark.
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Shaun passed away didn`t he?
EDIT: I don`t mean from the baseball bat, but that must have left a mark.
Sadly yes - last year , December time.
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sounds good on paper but just try it, the site pain and lack of oil dispersal would soon start mounting up, one bad shot can leave you sore for a week.
Plus all that oil has to go through your kidneys and liver, you would feel like shit, its like chemo levels of drugs ffs
Yes, I know that. These guys had a "psychopathic" approach to the sport. One of them was a former world record holder in the bench press and once said that he would do anything to break the world record, even if it was the last thing he did.
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Sadly yes - last year , December time.
RIP
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From what I remember both Ernie Taylor & Shaun Davis were shooting at least 50ml a week
Into each Tricep alone.
One of Shaun's training partners gave up training with him because he couldn't stand the sight
or thought of another 5ml injection - Shaun would use 4x 5ml syringes in what ever body part
He was training that day.
Say it was arms he'd put 5ml in each Bicep & tricep.
Chest 2x 5ml each pec & so on. !!
Am I the only one reading this insanity and wondering in the back of my mind whether it actually works and whether I should’ve tried it.
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Am I the only one reading this insanity and wondering in the back of my mind whether it actually works and whether I should’ve tried it.
This is a protocol used like SEO only with steroids in oil. It does not directly cause local muscle growth but stretches the muscle fascia like synthol.
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Am I the only one reading this insanity and wondering in the back of my mind whether it actually works and whether I should’ve tried it.
Nope its madness - Complete & utter madness.
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Nope its madness - Complete & utter madness.
750mgs a week is good for me precontest, any more than that I start feeling like shit
Tren is a huge no no, makes me feel ill
Start prep higher test lower mast and then switch around as contest gets closer keeping dosage the same.
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"3ml a day" is a common off-season approach among the bigger guys nowadays, the middle of the road approach. In the mid 90s dosages crept up overall and yes, on average guys are doing more these days.
Doing megadoses as in large volumes is actually not that hard physically, almost none of the big guys ever report pain. I say physically because mentally you start to resent those daily shots after a while. Injection pain goes away a lot of the time the longer you juice for whatever reason. When I started out a single milliliter of Sustanon would almost cripple me and the other kids, like someone took a baseball bat to your ass, you had to sleep on your other side because it hurt so much to put weight on the injection side. What high dose does do often is make you feel bad, you simply feel overloaded and uncomfortable. That's why almost everyone smokes so much weed and takes sleeping pills and more. But then you have these really big guys who claim they never got any real sides at any dose. I know of guys who have done 10ml of test in the glute once a week, claim there is no pain at all. I have done 6ml shots, like BigRo, when I just didn't feel like doing it often, no pain. My friend saw one monster do 5 × 5ml of assorted steroids in one sitting. The guy was on 9,000mg a week, his monitoring doctor told me this himself.
There is one curious issue with particularly Chinese test enanthate right now. Reportedly the Chinese do some quicker synthesis now that is supposed to leave a tiny amount of some acid in the finished hormone powder and this causes the muscle to knot up. Buddy bought fucking 30 bottles and now he doesn't know if he can use it. I could though.
I always say the stuff today is legit and potent, provided the cook doesn't short you. A lot of gear is tested by janoshik, the market has been demanding that of dealers. On one hand guys say the bodybuilders today use so many drugs but if the gear is fake then they obviously don't. Which is it? And it's ALL Chinese "dirty bath tub gear sold out of the trunk of a car" as oldtimer1 says. There are NO human equivalents for most of the gear bodybuilders take, and even when there is, many experienced guys choose the underground stuff for various reasons. Again, talk of some having better sources is baloney in this day and age, ok some can get test for 10 bucks or less a bottle or whatever because they know the cooks but it's all the same. And it's mostly not car trunk deals, it's internet orders paid for with crypto.
Why the old stuff was "so potent," as I've said a million times, is because we were all obviously younger. I could take one Sustanon and "feel it" when young but like every high doser says they don't even feel say 4 Sustanons a week, no clue if it's "real" going by feel when you're used to one every single day just as a base for a cycle.
This guy has been documenting his high dose cycles, like 5000mg of test, with blood work and so on. That would be the equivalent of 20 Sustanon a week.
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"3ml a day" is a common off-season approach among the bigger guys nowadays, the middle of the road approach. In the mid 90s dosages crept up overall and yes, on average guys are doing more these days.
Doing megadoses as in large volumes is actually not that hard physically, almost none of the big guys ever report pain. I say physically because mentally you start to resent those daily shots after a while. Injection pain goes away a lot of the time the longer you juice for whatever reason. When I started out a single milliliter of Sustanon would almost cripple me and the other kids, like someone took a baseball bat to your ass, you had to sleep on your other side because it hurt so much to put weight on the injection side. What high dose does do often is make you feel bad, you simply feel overloaded and uncomfortable. That's why almost everyone smokes so much weed and takes sleeping pills and more. But then you have these really big guys who claim they never got any real sides at any dose. I know of guys who have done 10ml of test in the glute once a week, claim there is no pain at all. I have done 6ml shots, like BigRo, when I just didn't feel like doing it often, no pain. My friend saw one monster do 5 × 5ml of assorted steroids in one sitting. The guy was on 9,000mg a week, his monitoring doctor told me this himself.
There is one curious issue with particularly Chinese test enanthate right now. Reportedly the Chinese do some quicker synthesis now that is supposed to leave a tiny amount of some acid in the finished hormone powder and this causes the muscle to knot up. Buddy bought fucking 30 bottles and now he doesn't know if he can use it. I could though.
I always say the stuff today is legit and potent, provided the cook doesn't short you. A lot of gear is tested by janoshik, the market has been demanding that of dealers. On one hand guys say the bodybuilders today use so many drugs but if the gear is fake then they obviously don't. Which is it? And it's ALL Chinese "dirty bath tub gear sold out of the trunk of a car" as oldtimer1 says. There are NO human equivalents for most of the gear bodybuilders take, and even when there is, many experienced guys choose the underground stuff for various reasons. Again, talk of some having better sources is baloney in this day and age, ok some can get test for 10 bucks or less a bottle or whatever because they know the cooks but it's all the same. And it's mostly not car trunk deals, it's internet orders paid for with crypto.
Why the old stuff was "so potent," as I've said a million times, is because we were all obviously younger. I could take one Sustanon and "feel it" when young but like every high doser says they don't even feel say 4 Sustanons a week, no clue if it's "real" going by feel when you're used to one every single day just as a base for a cycle.
This guy has been documenting his high dose cycles, like 5000mg of test, with blood work and so on. That would be the equivalent of 20 Sustanon a week.
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Divided between two syringes, I would get PIP doing 6ml on one side. I am aware a certain "older timer" reads these kind of threads and gets off.
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Sustanon used to leaved an egg sized lump on my ass cheek............I couldn`t even do crunches for abs.....of course I was doing a CC of Sust and 2 CC`s of other things all in one shot like a dummy.......just for pre-contest.
IFBB pro Dave Marinelli told me that the PIP was caused by the Proprionate in the Sust.
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I realize GetBig is where all the pharmacists and drug gurus live-so my question: is there anyone on here who takes the doses y’all are claiming- and what do you really look like?
Other than Hanky of course who can’t be trusted to give an honest answer about anything
I've helped good few with contest prep including a couple of UK
pros back in the early 2000's & involved with 2019 212lb Mr Olympia
winner Kamal.
Does that make me an Expert / Like 1 or 2 like portray themselves
as - NO - only I do know a thing or 2.
As for anyone using that stupid amountof gear,
I would hope not as I deem them highly un-necessary,some will
always think more is better.
Mind they may well be top 10 Mr Olympia's - if so Good for Them.
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When I lived in Atlanta, I got to know Jeb Castleberry who won the Mr Georgia contest and then promptly stopped competing for the most part. He worked out at the gym whenever he was in town and we knew a lot of the same folks (non bodybuilding) from south GA. He stopped competing after that one show because he hated his prep. His protocol for the prep was :
AM
1ml 100mg Test Susp
1ml 50mg Winstrol V
PM
1ml 100mg Test Susp
1ml 50mg Winstrol V
That comes out to over 2 grams a week, 4ml a day. And get this... he was a pharmacist. He was competing back in the 80s when it was much easier to get as things were more lax. He was using the 30ml bottles from Upjohn and Watson (suspension) and Winthrop (sp?) for the Winstrol V from a source in Augusta instead of what he could have pilfered or bought for himself.
He said out of all he had access to, he chose this after much research. And obviously it worked. He coached a few others on the side and gave them the same prep and it worked for them too. These include the late Bruce West (you old timers may recall him that sort of burst out of nowhere and won the Jr USA with major expectations of him before being forced to quit and later dying) and another person I will call Nate that was like a damn rocket going to the top. He could have turned pro any time he wanted and made a dent, but he kept getting in trouble (legal) off and on.
So yeah, even back in the 80s people were using high doses. Just not like today though.
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The bigger the muscle the more oil it can hold. If u are a 170 lb competitor u are getting away with 5cc in you delt. A 300lb probably could but I would recommend over 1cc at a time in any muscle. That's just me though
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He said out of all he had access to, he chose this after much research. And obviously it worked.
Seems like back then it was common to go all "water base" like half way through prep because they felt water based gear caused less water retention. Whether that is true or not can be debated but doing 1.4 grams of pure test is going to work better than most other gear which are comparatively weaker. That stack will work beautifully for many. Test is an androgen and the rest are anabolics but test is more anabolic than the anabolics. This is what they kind of missed back then.
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CBum cashing in big time.
https://generationiron.com/chris-bumstead-part-owner-gymshark/
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Seems like back then it was common to go all "water base" like half way through prep because they felt water based gear caused less water retention. Whether that is true or not can be debated but doing 1.4 grams of pure test is going to work better than most other gear which are comparatively weaker. That stack will work beautifully for many. Test is an androgen and the rest are anabolics but test is more anabolic than the anabolics. This is what they kind of missed back then.
One thing I can say from looking at photos of these guys, is that their skin was light years better than what you see on stage today. I don't know if it was from the lack of oil that most are using now or what, but their skin was crystal clear with no acne or blemishes.
Now Jeb did say the only draw back was that the Winstrol V did burn sometimes going in.
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One thing I can say from looking at photos of these guys, is that their skin was light years better than what you see on stage today. I don't know if it was from the lack of oil that most are using now or what, but their skin was crystal clear with no acne or blemishes.
Now Jeb did say the only draw back was that the Winstrol V did burn sometimes going in.
Some of todays guys skin looks like it was sandblasted then you have the zits and pustules.
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Some of todays guys skin looks like it was sandblasted then you have the zits and pustules.
Disgusting.I see it my gym.Young kids with decent build wearing loose tank tops with back and shoulders completely covered in acne so horrible just like their insta hero Sulek.Put some shirt on ya nasty pigs .
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One thing I can say from looking at photos of these guys, is that their skin was light years better than what you see on stage today. I don't know if it was from the lack of oil that most are using now or what, but their skin was crystal clear with no acne or blemishes.
Now Jeb did say the only draw back was that the Winstrol V did burn sometimes going in.
Both the Winstrol and Test suspension were brutal as far as injection pain goes. Big crystals of hormone causing pain. Today they have those micronised just like creatine can be micronised, the UG labs, unlike the few human equivalents available. Kind of ironic. They also clogged up needles which caused much frustration. You had to kind of shake it around in the syringe and then quickly jab it in and start pushing almost before you got in. Putting a little streroid oil in the syringle was one trick to lubricate the needle.
Many don't ever get acne no matter the dose. I think the skin looked thinner because they didn't use as many of all the drugs, insulin and GH causing water retention. Plus everyone is always concerned with being "full" all the time. Actual subq fat levels are lower today, especially in certain areas. But of course, the GH does cause "fat burning," no question about it.
Some coaches fairly recently had their guys eat all fish on prep, the idea being that fish protein caused the collagen in the skin to become thinner giving a tighter look
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Disgusting.I see it my gym.Young kids with decent build wearing loose tank tops with back and shoulders completely covered in acne so horrible just like their insta hero Sulek.Put some shirt on ya nasty pigs .
I see it a lot also.........freaking disgusting.
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There is one curious issue with particularly Chinese test enanthate right now. Reportedly the Chinese do some quicker synthesis now that is supposed to leave a tiny amount of some acid in the finished hormone powder and this causes the muscle to knot up. Buddy bought fucking 30 bottles and now he doesn't know if he can use it. I could though.
I always say the stuff today is legit and potent, provided the
That issue isn't recent, its been going on 5+ years now, some batches of test e are absolutely crippling. They seem to get a hold of it but pre 2018 there was no issue with test e batches. Seems hit and miss now, I just tell others to stick with test cyp or even prop made right is painless.