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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: tacobender on October 29, 2024, 10:15:47 PM
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He had a good physique, but it really to my honest opinion didn’t stand out because nothing nobody part really stood out. Was he overrated? Let’s post some amazing pics and get this thread going maybe was better than everyone thought.
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No, he was not.
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Very balanced. I actually think he was overlooked a lot. I think he was more complete and consistent than both Kevin and Flex.
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Never saw anyone say that. Everyone says he was underrated. If you revisit now you can see he was simply very, very good.
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Nothing in particular stood out because he was symmetrically balanced.
Far from overrated........one of the best ever!!
Chris Cormier
Height 5'9"
Born August 19, 1967
1987
Teen Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
1991
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 7th
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 4th
1993
USA Championships - NPC, Overall Winner
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 1st
1994
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix France - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Germany (2) - IFBB, 6th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, 6th
1995
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix France - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB, 4th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 4th
Olympia - IFBB, 6th
1996
Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 8th
Olympia - IFBB, 7th
1997
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 6th
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 8th
Toronto Pro - IFBB, 3rd
1998
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 4th
Olympia - IFBB, 6th
1999
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
2000
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
2001
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Australia - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix New Zealand - IFBB, 2nd
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 5th
San Francisco Pro - IFBB, Winner
2002
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Australia - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Austria - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 2nd
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
San Francisco Pro - IFBB, 2nd
Show of Strength Pro Championships - IFBB, 3rd
2003
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Australia - IFBB, Winner
San Francisco Pro - IFBB, 2nd
Show of Strength Pro Championships - IFBB, 7th
2004
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Australia - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, 7th
2005
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Australia - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, 13th
San Francisco Pro - IFBB, Winner
2007
Atlantic City Pro - IFBB, 6th
Montreal Pro Championships - IFBB, 4th
Magazines
1993 November Vol 7, Num 5 NPC News
1993 December Vol 11, Num 10 Flex
2001 May Vol 60, Num 5 IronMan
2001 September Vol 19, Num 7 Flex
2001 November Vol 19, Num 9 Flex
2004 June Vol 41, Num 6 Muscular Development
2005 September Num 279 Muscle Mag International
2005 October Vol 42, Num 10 Muscular Development
© MuscleMemory
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Underrated because he also could have been better but didn’t put 100% in. I remember one magazine where it showed him on the bike doing cardio and he had hooked up a PlayStation or Sega. He would also party a lot and the dancing and not eating counted as cardio for him.
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Underrated because he also could have been better but didn’t put 100% in. I remember one magazine where it showed him on the bike doing cardio and he had hooked up a PlayStation or Sega. He would also party a lot and the dancing and not eating counted as cardio for him.
That`s very true, but he did well in the toughest era there was.
As you said though, if he was more serious he more than likely would have done even better.
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Ah yes, cormier, the bodybuilder who could have beaten up Tyson apparently
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That`s very true, but he did well in the toughest era there was.
As you said though, if he was more serious he more than likely would have done even better.
Exactly!!
He placed 5-6 times 2nd in Arnold Classic .
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Exactly!!
He placed 5-6 times 2nd in Arnold Classic .
That`s not too shabby IMO.
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One of the times he got 2nd at the Arnold I remember thinking he got robbed. I was in college and it was to Jay so early 2000’s I guess.
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Years ago on here, there was a guy that told me without telling me Cormier was not a good person. He was adamant about it but when pressed for details, he wouldn't say and asked that I not ask anymore. That always stuck with me. Don't remember who he was here may still be around.
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Years ago on here, there was a guy that told me without telling me Cormier was not a good person. He was adamant about it but when pressed for details, he wouldn't say and asked that I not ask anymore. That always stuck with me. Don't remember who he was here may still be around.
Doesn’t make any sense if he can’t back up his bias with some type of support.
Oh well 90s was the best era of bodybuilding.
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Who won the Fibo fight??
Or both gassed out in first round?
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He had a good physique, but it really to my honest opinion didn’t stand out because nothing nobody part really stood out. Was he overrated? Let’s post some amazing pics and get this thread going maybe was better than everyone thought.
How many times does this have to be discussed?
This topic has probably been posted 80 times over the years.
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He had a good physique, but it really to my honest opinion didn’t stand out because nothing nobody part really stood out. Was he overrated? Let’s post some amazing pics and get this thread going maybe was better than everyone thought.
No he wasn't overrated because every single person who ever mentioned Cormier on this board for the last 20+ years basically at one point said the exact same you thing you just did. No standout bodyparts.
Except the bit about being overrated - nobody rated him that highly because of the no standout.
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Bullethead had a great physique - too bad about the tough man stories.
Tyson would have pulverized him in any pee stall worldwide.
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Bullethead had a great physique - too bad about the tough man stories.
Tyson would have pulverized him in any pee stall worldwide.
Hi Bevo. You’re men’s bathroom obsession is extremely weird. Your brain is fucking shot
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Years ago on here, there was a guy that told me without telling me Cormier was not a good person. He was adamant about it but when pressed for details, he wouldn't say and asked that I not ask anymore. That always stuck with me. Don't remember who he was here may still be around.
Well, he did smack around Amho Hight...
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Please show his rating so we can decide.
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Well, he did smack around Amho Hight...
She probably ate the good chicken
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his problem physique wise was he was just too symetrical and balanced, nothing stood out.
Most bodybuilders are known for a particular body part, which in reality is a fault
If someone walks out onstage and you think "wow look at his arms/legs" its a fault
Bob Paris suffered with the same curse of symmetry.
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his problem physique wise was he was just too symetrical and balanced, nothing stood out.
Most bodybuilders are known for a particular body part, which in reality is a fault
If someone walks out onstage and you think "wow look at his arms/legs" its a fault
Bob Paris suffered with the same curse of symmetry.
Exactly. I always thought this as well. He needed a knockout body part or two
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I didn't think it was possible to gay up boxing until now.
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How was he overrated?
He was a top contender in toughest era of bodybuilding.
He might have been overlooked if any.
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his problem physique wise was he was just too symetrical and balanced, nothing stood out.
Most bodybuilders are known for a particular body part, which in reality is a fault
If someone walks out onstage and you think "wow look at his arms/legs" its a fault
Bob Paris suffered with the same curse of symmetry.
As weird as it sounds about symmetry it makes sense. This applies for Dennis Newman as well.He was huge star in makings and Weider’s dark horse.If he was healthy back then and competed against 90’s guys he would have been overlooked.
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As weird as it sounds about symmetry it makes sense. This applies for Dennis Newman as well.He was huge star in makings and Weider’s dark horse.If he was healthy back then and competed against 90’s guys he would have been overlooked.
agreed
Platz should never have been a top contender simply because of his upper/lower imbalance.
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Let’s get some pics of anybody has any
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Chris is not overrated Shawn Ray is
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agreed
Platz should never have been a top contender simply because of his upper/lower imbalance.
That Platz comment may soon apply for Rubiel.
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That Platz comment may soon apply for Rubiel.
he will never win anything, will be around for the freak factor, to me he looks fucking stupid
He looks like a cartoon character piss take
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he will never win anything, will be around for the freak factor, to me he looks fucking stupid
He looks like a cartoon character piss take
Not only look stupid ,but acts stupid .He just pulled out of his main sponsor’s show and immediately his instagram account was suspended .
Last year when he did EVLS ,he blamed his bad showing on sponsor forcing him to compete and badmouth him. WTF if I was EVLS I would immediately drop that moron from payroll after those comments.
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No he had a great physique.
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There’s more pics out there I’m sure that last one was a good one
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His back needed more density and he needed his 97 Mr. O conditioning with his 99 Mr. O size. Then he could have hung with Mr. O version of Ronnie.
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His back needed more density and he needed his 97 Mr. O conditioning with his 99 Mr. O size. Then he could have hung with Mr. O version of Ronnie.
hey bro can you post pics of those two versions? Interesting I always felt his back wasn’t a streangth
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Speaking of Cormier he firmly believes CBum can win Pro Prague over Fitz
https://fitnessvolt.com/chris-cormier-chris-bumstead-v-martin-fitzwater-2024-prague-pro/
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Speaking of Cormier he firmly believes CBum can win Pro Prague over Fitz
https://fitnessvolt.com/chris-cormier-chris-bumstead-v-martin-fitzwater-2024-prague-pro/
I don't see that happening
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Pics?
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Lol. Fighting in thongs.
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How many times does this have to be discussed?
This topic has probably been posted 80 times over the years.
We still haven't answered the question of: Who was better? Coleman or Yates
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We still haven't answered the question of: Who was better? Coleman or Yates
Take your wet dreams elseware.
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We still haven't answered the question of: Who was better? Coleman or Yates
You poor morbidly obese slob. I feel bad for you. I constantly see you post and you’re simply completely ignored. I know that it’s a huge thing for you to see someone reacting to or replying to you so here it is.
Have you ever decided to weight train and eat clean?? Or are you still an obese blob?
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Chris was not overrated. He probably should have won an ASC or two when Jay came in off.
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how can he be overrated? i don't think anybody argues he was better than he was
I think he should've gotten 2nd at the 99 olympia, and probably should've won an arnold
he didn't live up to expectations, he was supposed to be at least the number 2 guy in the world in 2001 and then he showed up way off and got 5th
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You poor morbidly obese slob. I feel bad for you. I constantly see you post and you’re simply completely ignored. I know that it’s a huge thing for you to see someone reacting to or replying to you so here it is.
Have you ever decided to weight train and eat clean?? Or are you still an obese blob?
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Hi Bevo. You’re men’s bathroom obsession is extremely weird. Your brain is fucking shot
Would you like to join? I’m afraid you aren’t well equipped to be standing next to me though
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Overrated overall is Jay Cutler
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Overrated overall is Jay Cutler
No one tops Steve’s boy Kevin English
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No one tops Steve’s boy Kevin English
Most definitely. Now it’s Shaun Clarida
Ironic both are wineberger guys
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Most definitely. Now it’s Shaun Clarida
Ironic both are wineberger guys
It’s been always like this.I’ve seen few NYPro shows and some unknown or foreigner guys that looked absolutely great ,but got totally overlooked . Meanwhile legless Morel ,Marco Rivera and Delarosa got to fight for top spots.
But then again Victor is from NY/NJ area and was clear winner in 2007 ,but Steve-o gave it to chunky Cutler.
Also I felt same way about Cisternino ,got a few great placings ,but I’ve seen better guys that placed behind him.
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how can he be overrated? i don't think anybody argues he was better than he was
I think he should've gotten 2nd at the 99 olympia, and probably should've won an arnold
he didn't live up to expectations, he was supposed to be at least the number 2 guy in the world in 2001 and then he showed up way off and got 5th
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If Chris didn't party so hard and was as consistent as Dorian he would have won more shows and done better, he had a great career, no doubt was hard done by in more than a few shows, but Chris partied as hard as he trained, maybe even harder. Amazing genetics and great overall shape and symmetry.
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If Chris didn't party so hard and was as consistent as Dorian he would have won more shows and done better, he had a great career, no doubt was hard done by in more than a few shows, but Chris partied as hard as he trained, maybe even harder. Amazing genetics and great overall shape and symmetry.
as good as Shawn rays and flex’s ?
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as good as Shawn rays and flex’s ?
IMO Flex shape and symmetry in 92,93 iron man ASC no, I think he was on par with Shawn, but Shawn had better conditioning to go with his shape and symmetry. Chris had great separation but never got quite as striated as Shawn, in shape Shawn was very good at his best.
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IMO Flex shape and symmetry in 92,93 iron man ASC no, I think he was on par with Shawn, but Shawn had better conditioning to go with his shape and symmetry. Chris had great separation but never got quite as striated as Shawn, in shape Shawn was very good at his best.
who do you feel was better over all?
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At their best Flex92/93 then Shaun at his best, then Cormier, the only physique I rate above Flex Ironman early 93 is Yates 93, also a fan of Levrone physique in 92.
But Chris at his best would not be to far behind.
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Yates 93 is the GOAT.
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Yates 93 is the GOAT.
I felt like his arms had no peaks and he needed more width in his back
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Underrated yet overdrugged
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I think I know the answer but was Chris Dickerson overrated?
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I always thought Charles Clairmonte was also a victim of his symmetry. Fantastic physique but rarely rewarded with high placings at the Mr. Olympia.
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his problem physique wise was he was just too symetrical and balanced, nothing stood out.
Most bodybuilders are known for a particular body part, which in reality is a fault
If someone walks out onstage and you think "wow look at his arms/legs" its a fault
Bob Paris suffered with the same curse of symmetry.
Symmetry works if everything stands out. Huge calves all the way to huge traps. In Chris' case the body parts were all too small.
He looked small in some of his contests against Cutler.
See below. Cutler is out-angling him true, but I saw one contest in person and even from way back Cutler looked a lot bigger than Chris.
(https://www.ambal.ru/02932036616f.jpg)
In this one the size difference is less noticeable. Look at Jay's forearms compared to Chris' though. And Jay was not really known for huge forearms. Dorian and Phil Heath had amazing forearms.
(https://www.ambal.ru/62276114603.jpg)
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I felt like his arms had no peaks and he needed more width in his back
This is in 1996 after the biceps injuries. Dorian looked like he was carved out of rock. His legs were crazy! Who else had this granite look combined with mass?
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he never had that 'wow' factor. great physique. super balanced. people always talked about his "X-Frame".
"2 but's "
... but he didn't have something that stood out, like Ronnie's chest, arms, back, quads... Flex's back, arms.. Levrones delts/traps/tri's...Cutlers quads and delts/width.. Dillett's delts, arms, legs.. etc etc..
... but if he was a little out of shape/watery, his was in big trouble because (see above).
people always talk about Dillett or Vic Richards or Ronnie having the best genetics for being... but considering Cormier's Serious Training/eating/sleeping Vs. Enjoy yourself/party/get high pie chart seemed to always be balanced in the wrong direction, he could possibly hav3e som3 of th3 best genetics in th3 sport.
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Nice to see you're alive after the hurricane drama.
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he never had that 'wow' factor. great physique. super balanced. people always talked about his "X-Frame".
"2 but's "
... but he didn't have something that stood out, like Ronnie's chest, arms, back, quads... Flex's back, arms.. Levrones delts/traps/tri's...Cutlers quads and delts/width.. Dillett's delts, arms, legs.. etc etc..
... but if he was a little out of shape/watery, his was in big trouble because (see above).
people always talk about Dillett or Vic Richards or Ronnie having the best genetics for being... but considering Cormier's Serious Training/eating/sleeping Vs. Enjoy yourself/party/get high pie chart seemed to always be balanced in the wrong direction, he could possibly hav3e som3 of th3 best genetics in th3 sport.
Balance is supposed to be a plus but it obviously isn't.
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Nice to see you're alive after the hurricane drama.
It would take a direct hit from a tornado, to blow my fat ass away..