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This is the Neo-Con's plan to escalate the Ukraine War so Trump cannot end it.
WW3 on the way.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-ukraine-long-range-weapons-russia-52d424158182de2044ecc8bfcf011f9c
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Might see WWIII with nukes before inauguration.
https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1858248713287934418?s=46
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Moscow warns US over allowing Ukraine to hit Russian soil with long-range weapons
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-missile-attack-sumy-5cd4f9fe2cee1ae8aed67d63c22b0703
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Monday referred journalists to a statement made by Russian President Vladimir Putin in September, in which he said allowing Ukraine to target Russia would significantly raise the stakes in the conflict.
It would change “the very nature of the conflict dramatically,” Putin said at the time. “This will mean that NATO countries — the United States and European countries — are at war with Russia.”
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This is very bad and #1 why I voted against this admin.
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Their reasoning is that Russia is hitting power Grids & obviously this will cause serious problems for the civilian population. Maybe Putin is trying to make them flee as the winter will be brutal without power.
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Insanity.
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Even though we’re producing more oil than ever because of extraction on private lands, two years ago Biden could’ve flooded the oil and natural gas markets by approving leases and permits on federal lands.
Russia’s GDP is $2T – 1/13 of ours. We can severely damage their economy, which is nearly 20% reliant on oil and gas revenues.
Ukraine wouldn’t have to consider long-range missiles if we had unleashed our energy sector. This is what Trump will do, but it might be too late.
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Russia invades another country. Not WW3.
NK sends Russia troops to fight their war. Not WW3.
Ukraine defends itself. OMG it's WW3!!! ::)
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Russia claims it shot down US-made ATACMS missiles and issues nuclear threat
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-nuclear-doctrine-threatens-response-092200158.html
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Four years of peace with Trump as President.
With filthy Joe pedo as President?
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Stockpile diapers, medication, baby food: NATO members Sweden and Finland advise citizens on how to survive war
Sweden and Finland have updated guidance to their citizens on how to survive war, as NATO allies bolster defense measures against the backdrop of the Ukraine conflict.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/stockpile-nappies-medication-baby-food-160052679.html
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Leave to Joe Pedo to crash the stock market when it was doing so well since Trump got re-elected.
Dow drops more than 300 points on Ukraine-Russia tensions
Stocks tumbled Tuesday with losses increasing into the official market open as investors fled to safety amid rising geopolitical tensions between Ukraine and Russia.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed 327 points, or 0.7%. The S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite lost 0.5% each.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/18/stock-market-today-live-updates.html
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Ukraine has used ATACMS quite a bit during the war but in Crimea and against Russian troops inside Ukraine.
They require targeting assistance from U.S. satellites. Thus Russia's objections to their use against targets within its borders which effectively make them a direct attack by the U.S.
Russia could retaliate by providing anti-U.S. actors in the middle east with potent missiles and targeting support to attack and take out U.S. aircraft carriers in that region.
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Ukraine has used ATCAMS quite a bit during the war but in Crimea and against Russian troops inside Ukraine.
They require targeting assistance from U.S. satellites. Thus Russia's objections to their use against targets within its borders which effectively make them a direct attack by the U.S.
Russia could retaliate by providing anti-U.S. actors in the middle east with potent missiles and targeting support to attack and take out U.S. aircraft carriers in that region.
This is dumb.
Has Trump addressed this, or would that violate some sort of shit?
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This is dumb.
Has Trump addressed this, or would that violate some sort of shit?
He has not commented.
Russia knows he'll be back in a couple months and could stop this so they might wait it out.
Trump has been taking advices to not respond. Amazing.
It's all a trap to get Trump.
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He has not commented.
Russia knows he'll be back in a couple months and could stop this so they might wait it out.
Trump has been taking advices to not respond. Amazing.
It's all a trap to get Trump.
That's kind of where I was going.
This is an isolated story, but Trump met with Morning Joe and recently stated "the media is important, so I am willing to give them a second, or third, chance".
This time is going to be different, and the old tricks won't work.
Fake news sources will be going out of business unless they adapt - you're seeing it with Cuomo, TYT, etc....only fitting dumbasses like Scarborough are getting it, but late to the game.
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It's a desperate last effort. They know funding will decrease significantly once Trump takes office, so they're lashing out in a bid to secure better negotiating terms. It's reminiscent of the Battle of the Bulge
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Biden talks about "peaceful transfer of power", does everything he can to start WW3 before he leaves.
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This is absolutely a very dangerous thing to do. It risks the war going to another level all becuase they want to get at Trump some how.
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Fucking scumbag Pedocrats- Deliberately trying to stoke the fire.
Bunch of Khvnts.
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This is absolutely a very dangerous thing to do. It risks the war going to another level all becuase they want to get at Trump some how.
We warned of this. The democrats and rinos are pure evil and garbage
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I kept saying that Biden was worse than Putin, Xi and Jong Un.
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Biden talks about "peaceful transfer of power", does everything he can to start WW3 before he leaves.
This crazy old fucker. He should say in the woods.
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This crazy old fucker. He should say in the woods.
He's too brain dead to be in charge of this. His handlers are responsible.
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Russia invades another country. Not WW3.
NK sends Russia troops to fight their war. Not WW3.
Ukraine defends itself. OMG it's WW3!!! ::)
;D ;D ;D
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Violent, war-monger demturd pant-shitting commie admin, ha ha ha ha ha ::)
You support that, please go "off yourself" and your family.
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US Embassy in Kyiv shuts down due to Russian air attack threat after Biden policy shift
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-embassy-kyiv-shuts-down-082723035.html
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US Embassy in Kyiv shuts down due to Russian air attack threat after Biden policy shift
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-embassy-kyiv-shuts-down-082723035.html
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https://www.barrons.com/news/russia-s-updated-nuclear-red-line-adds-uncertainty-experts-348a5377 (https://www.barrons.com/news/russia-s-updated-nuclear-red-line-adds-uncertainty-experts-348a5377)
Russia's Updated Nuclear 'Red Line' Adds Uncertainty: Experts
Russia's new nuclear doctrine reflects its hopes to deter Ukraine's allies from a greater role in the war by establishing red lines hedged with added ambiguity, experts say.
Moscow warned on Tuesday that it would respond after Ukraine fired longer-range US missiles at its territory for the first time, as President Vladimir Putin issued a nuclear threat on the 1,000th day of the war.
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the attack showed Western countries wanted to "escalate" the conflict.
Putin signed a decree on Tuesday lowering the threshold for using nuclear weapons, a move that the White House, UK and European Union condemned as "irresponsible".
Washington this week said it had cleared Ukraine to use ATACMS against military targets inside Russia -- a long-standing Ukrainian request.
The missile attack would have been "impossible without the direct involvement of Americans," as well as the French or the British with their Scalp/Storm Shadow missiles, said Russian military analyst Vassily Kashin.
"From the Russian perspective, this use is equivalent to an attack by them on Russian territory," he told AFP.
Such weapons had already been used in Crimea and the Donbas regions which, Kashin said, the Kremlin considers to be Russian territory, but the international community does not.
Putin, who began issuing nuclear threats shortly after invading Ukraine in 2022, may want to add credibility to the repeated warnings.
According to the Telegram channel Rybar, close to the Russian military, "Russia's latest warnings, like its red lines, are taken less and less seriously. In the face of this, the adversary is reducing Russia's room for manoeuvre."
Maxim Starchak, a specialist on Russian nuclear policy at Queen's University in Canada, said that the Kremlin's doctrine "lowers the threshold" for nuclear weapons use. But it also "introduces ambiguity", he said.
"On the one hand, Russia speaks about the possibility of using nuclear weapons in case of a territorial threat, but on the other hand, the scale of such a threat is not clear."
Setting aside the nuclear question, Starchak said, the recent arrival of North Korean troops on the Russian side, and the US-supplied missile launches on the Ukrainian side "are certainly an escalation of the conflict".
While either development "does not mean that the finger is already on the nuclear button, we are getting closer to a direct conflict between Russia and NATO countries," he said.
It is imperative for Russia, said Pavel Podvig, a Geneva-based independent analyst, "to achieve its goals sooner rather than later" and intensified western assistance for Ukraine is slowing the Kremlin down.
"Russia is pushing forward and maybe the calculation is that Russia wants to keep its momentum," Podvig said.
Having gained costly territorial advantages in recent months, Putin may seek to exploit a window between the Biden administration and the presumably more accommodating Trump presidency, according to Tatiana Stanovaya, of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center.
Putin may see the current situation as a strategic "in-between" moment, she said, anticipating possible peace initiatives from Trump while emphasising what he views as the "irresponsibility" of Biden's policy.
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https://www.barrons.com/news/russia-s-updated-nuclear-red-line-adds-uncertainty-experts-348a5377 (https://www.barrons.com/news/russia-s-updated-nuclear-red-line-adds-uncertainty-experts-348a5377)
Russia's Updated Nuclear 'Red Line' Adds Uncertainty: Experts
Russia's new nuclear doctrine reflects its hopes to deter Ukraine's allies from a greater role in the war by establishing red lines hedged with added ambiguity, experts say.
Moscow warned on Tuesday that it would respond after Ukraine fired longer-range US missiles at its territory for the first time, as President Vladimir Putin issued a nuclear threat on the 1,000th day of the war.
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the attack showed Western countries wanted to "escalate" the conflict.
Putin signed a decree on Tuesday lowering the threshold for using nuclear weapons, a move that the White House, UK and European Union condemned as "irresponsible".
Washington this week said it had cleared Ukraine to use ATACMS against military targets inside Russia -- a long-standing Ukrainian request.
The missile attack would have been "impossible without the direct involvement of Americans," as well as the French or the British with their Scalp/Storm Shadow missiles, said Russian military analyst Vassily Kashin.
"From the Russian perspective, this use is equivalent to an attack by them on Russian territory," he told AFP.
Such weapons had already been used in Crimea and the Donbas regions which, Kashin said, the Kremlin considers to be Russian territory, but the international community does not.
Putin, who began issuing nuclear threats shortly after invading Ukraine in 2022, may want to add credibility to the repeated warnings.
According to the Telegram channel Rybar, close to the Russian military, "Russia's latest warnings, like its red lines, are taken less and less seriously. In the face of this, the adversary is reducing Russia's room for manoeuvre."
Maxim Starchak, a specialist on Russian nuclear policy at Queen's University in Canada, said that the Kremlin's doctrine "lowers the threshold" for nuclear weapons use. But it also "introduces ambiguity", he said.
"On the one hand, Russia speaks about the possibility of using nuclear weapons in case of a territorial threat, but on the other hand, the scale of such a threat is not clear."
Setting aside the nuclear question, Starchak said, the recent arrival of North Korean troops on the Russian side, and the US-supplied missile launches on the Ukrainian side "are certainly an escalation of the conflict".
While either development "does not mean that the finger is already on the nuclear button, we are getting closer to a direct conflict between Russia and NATO countries," he said.
It is imperative for Russia, said Pavel Podvig, a Geneva-based independent analyst, "to achieve its goals sooner rather than later" and intensified western assistance for Ukraine is slowing the Kremlin down.
"Russia is pushing forward and maybe the calculation is that Russia wants to keep its momentum," Podvig said.
Having gained costly territorial advantages in recent months, Putin may seek to exploit a window between the Biden administration and the presumably more accommodating Trump presidency, according to Tatiana Stanovaya, of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center.
Putin may see the current situation as a strategic "in-between" moment, she said, anticipating possible peace initiatives from Trump while emphasising what he views as the "irresponsibility" of Biden's policy.
72 minutes...
Thanks Joe Biden. ::)
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@RepThomasMassie
Watch 2007 video of Senator Joe Biden clarifying that 2024 President Joe Biden has committed an impeachable offense by authorizing US supplied and targeted missiles to attack the sovereign country of Russia.
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