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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on December 31, 2024, 12:03:12 PM
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Don’t forget to fill up your cars today. Permanent .65 gas tax goes into effect tomorrow.
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Move. It’ll never get better.
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Paid $2.56 a gallon in South Carolina last Friday. 87 Octane
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God, why can’t it be a $5 a gallon tax so people will actually say enough is enough.
I imagine coach drives a ridiculous truck for no reason.
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God, why can’t it be a $5 a gallon tax so people will actually say enough is enough.
I imagine coach drives a ridiculous truck for no reason.
I drive a 24’ F150 with a 36 gallon tank. I’ve either had trucks or SUV’s because they’re more practical than any car. What vehicle is driven is irrelevant. It affects businesses like two of mine.
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God, why can’t it be a $5 a gallon tax so people will actually say enough is enough.
I imagine coach drives a ridiculous truck for no reason.
Eliminating gasoline vehicles would not remove the environmental problems.
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Eliminating gasoline vehicles would not remove the environmental problems.
I agree.
I meant enough is enough in terms of taxing, I drive a 3/ton.
I drive a 24’ F150 with a 36 gallon tank. I’ve either had trucks or SUV’s because they’re more practical than any car. What vehicle is driven is irrelevant. It affects businesses like two of mine.
I don’t imagine you just happened to buy a 24’ as the first new truck in years. I bet you have owned multiple in the last 10 years.
You are an over-consumer. You buy trucks for no reason, that’s your right as an American. You do have to pay the price though.
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I agree.
I meant enough is enough in terms of taxing, I drive a 3/ton.
I don’t imagine you just happened to buy a 24’ as the first new truck in years. I bet you have owned multiple in the last 10 years.
You are an over-consumer. You buy trucks for no reason, that’s your right as an American. You do have to pay the price though.
Yeah, I don’t drive anything but trucks for as long as I can remember and I mentioned the reason and it’s still irrelevant. On a full tank I can travel almost 700 miles. I guess you missed the part where it affects businesses and that the costs effects consumers. Do you think we/they are just going to eat that?
You sound like one who might have voted for this
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Don’t forget to fill up your cars today. Permanent .65 gas tax goes into effect tomorrow.
Bullshit.
Show me your source of information. All I can find, as a California resident, is that gasoline prices MAY go up in 2025:
“California
In California, amendments to the state’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard are anticipated to significantly raise fuel prices in 2025.
The state’s Air Resources Board adopted amendments to the fuel standard to help achieve carbon and methane emission targets. The agency projected the changes would increase the price of gas by 47 cents per gallon. Diesel prices were anticipated to rise by 59 cents per gallon.
CARB officials have since backed away from the estimates. In October, they wrote their analysis “should not be misconstrued as a prediction of the future credit price nor as a direct impact on prices at the pump.””
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Bullshit.
Show me your source of information. All I can find, as a California resident, is that gasoline prices MAY go up in 2025:
“California
In California, amendments to the state’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard are anticipated to significantly raise fuel prices in 2025.
The state’s Air Resources Board adopted amendments to the fuel standard to help achieve carbon and methane emission targets. The agency projected the changes would increase the price of gas by 47 cents per gallon. Diesel prices were anticipated to rise by 59 cents per gallon.
CARB officials have since backed away from the estimates. In October, they wrote their analysis “should not be misconstrued as a prediction of the future credit price nor as a direct impact on prices at the pump.””
We’ll see what happens…
Policies have consequences. A significant increase in the retail price of gasoline that Californians will pay at the pump is expected for 2025. The projected increase could drive California’s retail gasoline prices to exceed the national average by as much as 62% by late 2025. The increase will contribute to inflation, add to the exceptionally high cost of living in California where only 16% of residents can afford to buy a home, and has a disproportionate and adverse impact on lower income Californians.
On November 8, 2024, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) passed new special blend mandates for California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard (LCFS). The new standards require that refiners produce, and retail gas stations sell, a new California special blend in 2025. The CARB contends that the new special blend is necessary to achieve carbon and methane emission reduction targets and is consistent with Governor Gavin Newsom’s 2035 mandate to eliminate the sale of internal combustion car sales and 2050 targets. By its own admission, the CARB projected that the new special blend could increase the retail price of gasoline by $0.47 a gallon. However, in hearings, CARB staff noted that “Any estimate of cost from the LCFS regulatory proposal are inherently uncertain because they involve conducting estimates and speculative projections about what may happen in the future.”
When asked by KCRA about the impact of change on retail gasoline prices, the CARB simply stonewalled and did not respond.
A study by the University of Pennsylvania Kleinman Center for Energy Policy contradicts CARB estimates by estimating that retail prices could increase by $0.65 a gallon in 2025, $.85 a gallon in 2030, and $1.50 a gallon in 2035. Early modeling indicates that the regulation could have at least a $0.27 to $0.43 impact on the price of regular fuel. However, depending on the timing and costs incurred by refiners, wholesalers, and retailers to comply with the regulations, the impact on retail prices for regular grade gasoline could be significantly higher, ranging from $0.40 to $0.65 in year one, 2025. Most refineries perform major repairs, upgrades, and maintenance in January and February when demand is lowest and before they are required to transition to the summer seasonal blend, which has higher refining costs and higher retail prices. However, it is unclear at this time as to the cost of compliance, especially if refiners have to incur investments for new technologies, equipment and processes.
Notwithstanding the impact on consumers, the projected increase will have a positive impact on state and local taxes, which are pegged to the retail prices, thus increasing revenues to the governments.
For Californians, the increase in retail prices attributed to the adoption of new special blend standards is not the only regulatory action that will drive retail gasoline prices up in the Golden State. Looming in the background is the October 2024 passing of ABX2-1 requiring California oil refineries to maintain a ready-stock of finished gasoline will create additional costs for producers that must be factored into retail prices. Depending on the costs incurred by refiners for building or acquiring extra storage capacity and the amount of days’ supply that the refiners must maintain the addition to the retail gasoline prices could range between $0.047 to as much as $0.27 per gallon.
Policies have consequences, and within 72 hours of passing ABX2-1, Phillips 66 announced the closing of its Los Angeles refinery. The Phillips 66 LA complex refinery constitutes 8.3% of the total refinery capacity in California. Unless something significant or catastrophic happens, the demand for retail gasoline in California will not fall by 8.3% in 2025, and it is uncertain at this time as to how the loss of Phillips production will be compensated or offset. California has no in-bound pipelines, so crude oil stock and gasoline products must be shipped in via rail, truck or marine vessels…all of which are accretive to the retail price of gasoline and greenhouse emissions.
In consideration of diminishing supply and relatively stable demand, basic economics is that prices will increase. Early USC models indicate that the closure of Phillips 66 and loss of 8.3% of capacity could increase prices at the pump by $0.082 to $0.14 a gallon for regular grade gasoline by year-end 2025. The price increase will be more for premium grade. Additionally, the California excise tax on gasoline, which is indexed to the California Consumer Price Index, is scheduled to automatically increase on July 1, 2025, by roughly $0.011 to $0.018 a gallon from $0.599 to $0.619.8 Collectively, the increases in gasoline prices will have a compounding and inflationary effect throughout California’s supply chains for agricultural production, manufacturing, transportation, food and grocery items, building and construction, utility costs, and other services that are influenced by gasoline consumption.
The recent 2024 legislative and regulatory actions taken by California could result in a cumulative increase in the price of regular grade gasoline for the California consumer of $0.55 to $0.898 a gallon in 2025. For premium grades, the estimated range of increase could be $0.95 to $1.15 a gallon. And that does not include any increases in crude oil prices and the price of wholesale gasoline. Based on the average number of miles driven in California of 12,5249 and California’s average miles per gallon of 31 mpg, California regulatory and legislative actions could conservatively cost the California consumer an extra $222.00 to $449.00 a year for regular grade fuel, more for premium. To compensate for the expected increases in retail gasoline prices, the average Californian driving an internal combustion vehicle will have to earn an additional $600.00 to $1,000.00 a year in pre-tax income to “break even” with 2024 prices, depending on the grade of gas they purchase.
Policies have consequences and Californians must now…Brace for impact.
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Yeah, I don’t drive anything but trucks for as long as I can remember and I mentioned the reason and it’s still irrelevant. On a full tank I can travel almost 700 miles. I guess you missed the part where it affects businesses and that the costs effects consumers. Do you think we/they are just going to eat that?
You sound like one who might have voted for this
Yes I expect you will just eat it. And no, I didn’t vote for it you monkey.
Why would I endorse a ridiculous tax?
I also don’t endorse dumbass consumerism and waste.
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Gas prices go up and grocery prices go up as well.
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Americans always complain about gas prices, but at the same time continue to buy gas guzzlers. So I gues it's not that big of a problem for them. Otherwise they would buy more frugal cars and trucks.
Or lease EVs, some manufacturers are almost giving them away. In many US states solar panels are really effective, loads of sun hours per day = nearly free energy to power the AC and an electric car
https://www.thedrive.com/news/hyundai-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-this-super-cheap-ioniq-6-lease-deal
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Americans always complain about gas prices, but at the same time continue to buy gas guzzlers. So I gues it's not that big of a problem for them. Otherwise they would buy more frugal cars and trucks.
Or lease EVs, some manufacturers are almost giving them away. In many US states solar panels are really effective, loads of sun hours per day = nearly free energy to power the AC and an electric car
https://www.thedrive.com/news/hyundai-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-this-super-cheap-ioniq-6-lease-deal
People who live in rural areas need big trucks for farm work.
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I drive a 24’ F150 with a 36 gallon tank. I’ve either had trucks or SUV’s because they’re more practical than any car. What vehicle is driven is irrelevant. It affects businesses like two of mine.
What’s the point of owning a 3-ton car that consumes 28 MPG for a single person who is 5'7"?
Napoleon complex driving you to overburden yourself just to take up space and try to matter in the eyes of the world.
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I also don’t endorse dumbass consumerism and waste.
In lots of things one doesn’t really have a choice.
Many things are purposely made to last couple of years max.
Even if our generation doesn’t need to swap phones every year it is only 3 to 4 years and there will be no more updates etc.
You can’t get quality even with money!
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In lots of things one doesn’t really have a choice.
Many things are purposely made to last couple of years max.
Even if our generation doesn’t need to swap phones every year it is only 3 to 4 years and there will be no more updates etc.
You can’t get quality even with money!
To an extent, sure. I know guys that refuse to drive a truck that’s not the current generation/body style. Like that’s an identity.
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I drive a 24’ F150 with a 36 gallon tank. I’ve either had trucks or SUV’s because they’re more practical than any car. What vehicle is driven is irrelevant. It affects businesses like two of mine.
How big is the ladder to help get you into it?
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How big is the ladder to help get you into it?
Probably about as tall as the steps to get your manatee-ass into your single-wide.
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Probably about as tall as the steps to get your manatee-ass into your single-wide.
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What’s the point of owning a 3-ton car that consumes 28 MPG for a single person who is 5'7"?
Napoleon complex driving you to overburden yourself just to take up space and try to matter in the eyes of the world.
Is that what I’m doing?
Btw, what does my height have to do with anything? It’s as irrelevant as what I drive.
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Is that what I’m doing?
Btw, what does my height have to do with anything? It’s as irrelevant as what I drive.
What you drive isn’t irrelevant in the strictest sense.
People that drive low MPG vehicles for zero reason are a part of the supply and demand susceptible gas prices.
It’s your right to drive an unnecessary vehicle. The government shouldn’t dictate what you can drive and when, but society should at least mildly ridicule you.
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What you drive isn’t irrelevant in the strictest sense.
People that drive low MPG vehicles for zero reason are a part of the supply and demand susceptible gas prices.
It’s your right to drive an unnecessary vehicle. The government shouldn’t dictate what you can drive and when, but society should at least mildly ridicule you.
This is fun…
What part of a Truck for me is more practical than a car did you not get? You keep repeating that I’m driving an “unnecessary” vehicle.
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This is fun…
What part of a Truck for me is more practical than a car did you not get? You keep repeating that I’m driving an “unnecessary” vehicle.
Getting a new 85” TV every four months doesn’t mean you need a truck.
How many times have you hauled 2x12’s in the last year? When’s the last time you went to hodge road past an area a RAV4 could make it?
Here’s another one for you, how many different trucks have you owned in the last 10 years?
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Getting a new 85” TV every four months doesn’t mean you need a truck.
How many times have you hauled 2x12’s in the last year? When’s the last time you went to hodge road past an area a RAV4 could make it?
Here’s another one for you, how many different trucks have you owned in the last 10 years?
This ain’t going in a car and a car ain’t pulling a trailer…
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Wife and I are in the market for a Freightliner Motorhome this summer. Should I consult you first? ::)
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I agree.
I meant enough is enough in terms of taxing, I drive a 3/ton.
Oh good take then.
With the amount of electric vehicles in CA you would think the gas consumption would have lowered significantly.
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Wife and I are in the market for a Freightliner Motorhome this summer. Should I consult you first? ::)
Yeah. Skip it. You’ll use it once and it will just sit becoming an eyesore.
You never revealed how many trucks you have gone through.
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Yeah. Skip it. You’ll use it once and it will just sit becoming an eyesore.
You never revealed how many trucks you have gone through.
Three. Anymore questions? I like to upgrade
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Got gas today, it was $3.99. That is $.10 more than I paid before Christmas. Not $.65 more.
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Three. Anymore questions? I like to upgrade
The automotive industry thanks you for your cooperation.
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Three. Anymore questions? I like to upgrade
Thought about shoe lifts?
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Yes I expect you will just eat it. And no, I didn’t vote for it you monkey.
Why would I endorse a ridiculous tax?
I also don’t endorse dumbass consumerism and waste.
“Visualize erections” is making his presence felt ITT 8)
Wife and I are in the market for a Freightliner Motorhome this summer. Should I consult you first? ::)
Just rent one. Between maintenance, storage, and depreciation, they are serious money pits. Nevermind all the repairs you’ll have to do with the new emission control systems for the diesel engines.
Got gas today, it was $3.99. That is $.10 more than I paid before Christmas. Not $.65 more.
LOL. Ah well, nevertheless,