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I’d like to see Bills,but it’ll be probably KC again.
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I’d like to see Bills,but it’ll be probably KC again.
KC/Detroit
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joswift/Hankins
With joswift winning since he always beats Hankins
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Josh VS Hankins
Kentucky VS Chicken
San Francisco VS Heterosexuality
Kamala VS Oprah
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KC/Detroit
Lions surprisingly lost .Eminem must have cried like MF.
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Buffalo/Philadelphia
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Probably Eagles vs Chiefs.
Chiefs winning, although I dislike the chiefs.
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Probably Eagles vs Chiefs.
Chiefs winning, although I dislike the chiefs.
Swifties not again .But Mahomes could definitely break TB record.
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The Redskins game was amazing
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The Redskins game was amazing
They may get that name back .
https://www.newsweek.com/what-know-nfl-washington-redskins-commanders-name-change-1995052
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Ravens Eagles
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Ravens Eagles
Nope.
As I said, eagles vs chiefs.
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Nope.
As I said, eagles vs chiefs.
Ugh Not again .
Wash.-Bills
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Ugh Not again .
Wash.-Bills
Would like to see the bills and Philly
But the refs when any team is playing KC are so blatantly obvious with some of the bogus calls
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Would like to see the bills and Philly
But the refs when any team is playing KC are so blatantly obvious with some of the bogus calls
I’ve seen those weird calls.Mahomes is protected like TB used to be.
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I’ve seen those weird calls.Mahomes is protected like TB used to be.
It’s worse
Brady at least played in the early 2000’s when it was tougher and the competition was much better
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Lions surprisingly lost .Eminem must have cried like MF.
Five turnovers. I love Dan Campbell but along with the turnovers, he flat out got out coached
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Five turnovers. I love Dan Campbell but along with the turnovers, he flat out got out coached
He broke down in his press conference. It was tough to watch.
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It’s worse
Brady at least played in the early 2000’s when it was tougher and the competition was much better
100% correct.
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Would like to see the bills and Philly
But the refs when any team is playing KC are so blatantly obvious with some of the bogus calls
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^^^ Wouldn't doubt it.
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^^^ Wouldn't doubt it.
Even this??
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Mahomes does have a gay vibe to him.
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Mahomes does have a gay vibe to him.
Mahommes is a dirty disgusting fucking pig that doesn’t wash his underwear after victories and rewears them the following week until he loses because he’s superstitious he also eats Doritos while in bed at night disgusting Dorito breath don’t even get me started on the way he talks. He looks like he’s slobbers.
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Mahommes is a dirty disgusting fucking pig that doesn’t wash his underwear after victories and rewears them the following week until he loses because he’s superstitious he also eats Doritos while in bed at night disgusting Dorito breath don’t even get me started on the way he talks. He looks like he’s slobbers.
he wont appreciate you sharing pillow secrets on here
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Fuck him it was on smart news
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it’s true tho
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I'm pulling for a Bill's vs. Commanders Superbowl.
The Chiefs are trying too hard to replicate the Patriots dominance, and I don't want to see them get a 3 peat.
And I just dislike everything about the Eagles.
The Patriots never had the refs in their pockets like Kansas City either. They were too busy (including Brady) getting falsely persecuted like the Knights Templar.
Bellichick better than Reid
Brady better than Mahomes
Gronk better than Kelce
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I'm pulling for a Bill's vs. Commanders Superbowl.
The Chiefs are trying too hard to replicate the Patriots dominance, and I don't want to see them get a 3 peat.
And I just dislike everything about the Eagles.
The Patriots never had the refs in their pockets like Kansas City either. They were too busy (including Brady) getting falsely persecuted like the Knights Templar.
Bellichick better than Reid
Brady better than Mahomes
Gronk better than Kelce
Bills / Chiefs are like Cutler/ Coleman .It took Jay awhile, but he did it .Let’s go Bills .
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LOL at the Patriots literally not getting every single call their way when they were good.
It's well documented.
All the Pats fans up here act the same way, and they're all getting nervous that Mahomes is entering Brady territory.
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LOL at the Patriots literally not getting every single call their way when they were good.
It's well documented.
All the Pats fans up here act the same way, and they're all getting nervous that Mahomes is entering Brady territory.
I was thinking this myself. Rules were actually changed because of Patriot gifts.
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Patriots haters.....The original dynasty of 20 + years will not be undone with a few year winning streak.
Besides, the Chiefs play in the weakest division I have ever seen. Guaranteed wins built in, every year.
This Chiefs team does not deserve to be the first to ever 3-peat in the NFL. Please Buffalo. Please Josh Allen. Please Roger Goodell.
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Patriots haters.....The original dynasty of 20 + years will not be undone with a few year winning streak.
Besides, the Chiefs play in the weakest division I have ever seen. Guaranteed wins built in, every year.
This Chiefs team does not deserve to be the first to ever 3-peat in the NFL. Please Buffalo. Please Josh Allen. Please Roger Goodell.
I have no problem with TB ,you can’t win 7 rings just with the help of referees .Same as I feel about Lance Armstrong .Doping or not FFS he won that shit 7 times.Others do drugs as well ,but can’t pedal that fast .
He should have kept his mouth shut idiot.
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I have no problem with TB ,you can’t win 7 rings just with the help of referees .Same as I feel about Lance Armstrong .Doping or not FFS he won that shit 7 times.Others do drugs as well ,but can’t pedal that fast .
He should have kept his mouth shut idiot.
he would have been done for perjury
He could have ened up in jail for 5 years
His team mates dropped him in it
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I can see Dorian Yates winning
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he would have been done for perjury
He could have ened up in jail for 5 years
His team mates dropped him in it
I did not watch it that close.I vaguely do remember Oprah interview .I totally forgot Landis rat him out.
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I have no problem with TB ,you can’t win 7 rings just with the help of referees .Same as I feel about Lance Armstrong .Doping or not FFS he won that shit 7 times.Others do drugs as well ,but can’t pedal that fast .
He should have kept his mouth shut idiot.
Agree - he also had a coach who contrived the most elaborate method of filming, stealing the other teams' plays and cheating to help. The team has been fined millions and had draft picks taken away multiple times throughout their tenure. In addition, two opposing coaches made probably two of the dumbest calls in sports history to hand the Pats titles.
Brady was still excellent, however, any realist knows the cheating and the calls are part of his real legacy.
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Not surprised that Washington got destroyed.
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Agree - he also had a coach who contrived the most elaborate method of filming, stealing the other teams' plays and cheating to help. The team has been fined millions and had draft picks taken away multiple times throughout their tenure. In addition, two opposing coaches made probably two of the dumbest calls in sports history to hand the Pats titles.
Brady was still excellent, however, any realist knows the cheating and the calls are part of his real legacy.
Not really.
I wouldn't even call myself a casual fan of football. I think my take represents what the average person thinks, which is: he's the GOAT and all that shit about cheating is what all teams do. They just got caught. Part of the reasons they got caught is the spite people have for winners.
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Not surprised that Washington got destroyed.
Some basketball score.
Bills /KC is nerve wracking Josh really deserves that SB .MVP would be extra bonus.
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Not really.
I wouldn't even call myself a casual fan of football. I think my take represents what the average person thinks, which is: he's the GOAT and all that shit about cheating is what all teams do. They just got caught. Part of the reasons they got caught is the spite people have for winners.
Well, that just means the average fan is uneducated and ignorant on the subject. There's stuff all teams do, then there's what the Pats did. They had a system, including a full time employee whose job was to steal the other teams stuff.
No other team was doing anything close to this. It's like the Houston Astros - teams steal signs, but they don't relay it via camera and have an employee bang a trash can to signal the hitter.
This article shows how bad it was, and how the lack of punishment pissed off the owners so much, that it led to an over correction on deflate gate.
https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart
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Some basketball score.
Bills /KC is nerve wracking Josh really deserves that SB .MVP would be extra bonus.
I want Bills to win but most likely will be KC.
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Probably Eagles vs Chiefs.
Chiefs winning, although I dislike the chiefs.
Yup. I’m an expert NFL analyst!
Hopefully eagles will take it.
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I want Bills to win but most likely will be KC.
You jinxed it bro .Deep down you are KC/ Taylor Swift fan.
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You jinxed it bro .Deep down you are KC/ Taylor Swift fan.
Rory loves Taylor Swift, I believe.
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Rory loves Taylor Swift, I believe.
I expect him to reply “haters gonna hate,hate,hate “
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You jinxed it bro .Deep down you are KC/ Taylor Swift fan.
I’m actually a Cowboy fan.
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I’m actually a Cowboy fan.
Lol I live 5 minutes away from the star , the area is filled with getbiggers, from bhanky’s to that one getbigger with all the watches, and cars he poses over
My girl works out at Cowboys fitness gym and lots of hot girls walking around just wanting to be seen
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Patriots haters.....The original dynasty of 20 + years will not be undone with a few year winning streak.
Besides, the Chiefs play in the weakest division I have ever seen. Guaranteed wins built in, every year.
This Chiefs team does not deserve to be the first to ever 3-peat in the NFL. Please Buffalo. Please Josh Allen. Please Roger Goodell.
??? The AFC West had 3 teams in the playoffs.
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Rigged chiefs are handed the bowl why watch
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??? The AFC West had 3 teams in the playoffs.
It was satire. I said it because it's exactly what they said about the Patriots run. It was in large part to a shitty AFC East all of those years. It wasn't the fact that the Patriots dominance had a role in keeping those teams down, by constantly beating them.
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Rigged chiefs are handed the bowl why watch
Same here ,not interested in SB .
Lol Swift probably handed her overpriced and hard to obtain tours tickets to referees kids as a gift
https://www.si.com/nfl/shocking-espn-graphic-shows-how-much-refs-have-favored-chiefs-in-nfl-playoffs
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While I did bet on the Chiefs, the Bills have a legit argument with the league on some of those calls.
The short yardage plays could be solved by technology, and the league is going to have to make a change.
The catch that hit the ground was ridiculous, and they had plenty of evidence to overturn it.
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It was satire. I said it because it's exactly what they said about the Patriots run. It was in large part to a shitty AFC East all of those years. It wasn't the fact that the Patriots dominance had a role in keeping those teams down, by constantly beating them.
I see (said the blind man to his deaf son).
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Philly Mayor should compete on spelling bee
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While I did bet on the Chiefs, the Bills have a legit argument with the league on some of those calls.
The short yardage plays could be solved by technology, and the league is going to have to make a change.
The catch that hit the ground was ridiculous, and they had plenty of evidence to overturn it.
so what’s gonna happen is the chiefs bought the Super Bowl/ 3 peat then nfl makes adjustments with officiating etc they can’t keep going people are tired and ready to boycott they know this why not give the chiefs one more gift and the biggest of them all the 3peat . Watch lol just a scam
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so what’s gonna happen is the chiefs bought the Super Bowl/ 3 peat then nfl makes adjustments with officiating etc they can’t keep going people are tired and ready to boycott they know this why not give the chiefs one more gift and the biggest of them all the 3peat . Watch lol just a scam
People are still going to watch.
They will all be glued to the playoffs next year hoping KC gets beat.
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SB Tickets aren’t selling well.
Half time show is some wimp I’ve never heard of.
F the Chiefs .
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/business/super-bowl-ticket-prices/index.html
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Chiefs got great coaches.
Got to give them the nod.
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SB Tickets aren’t selling well.
Half time show is some wimp I’ve never heard of.
F the Chiefs .
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/business/super-bowl-ticket-prices/index.html
I doubt if I'll watch. There are probably many others who feel the same way. We will see with the ratings.
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Philly Mayor should compete on spelling bee
She gets paid to lead not to read. Paid for by MAKE AMERIKA DUMB AGAIN aka MADA. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Things looking good for Killadelphia.
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Blowout! More like the Pooper Bowl than the Super Bowl. Congrats to the Eagles. Very well run organization.
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The GOAT Brady would have never been blown out like that
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And as usual I was right see comments page 1= V
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Re: SB- who’s your pick.
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2025, 06:55:49 AM »
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The GOAT Brady would have never been blown out like that
True. Atlanta in 2017 was leading 28-3 and TB turned that around and Pats won.
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Rigged chiefs are handed the bowl why watch
Hmmmm
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The GOAT Brady would have never been blown out like that
He had the best offense of all time in 2007 and the Giants shut him down for 8 less points than Mahomes got.
So yeah, he would.
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He had the best offense of all time in 2007 and the Giants shut him down for 8 less points than Mahomes got.
So yeah, he would.
What do you think about you your boy Eli not being a first-ballot hall of famer? I actually was shocked, but I think they got it right. Especially if they kept out the greatest player at his position (Vinatieri) from making it as well.
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What do you think about you your boy Eli not being a first-ballot hall of famer? I actually was shocked, but I think they got it right. Especially if they kept out the greatest player at his position (Vinatieri) from making it as well.
I certainly never thought he was first ballot, and I’m not even sure he’s a HOF quarterback at all.
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I certainly never thought he was first ballot, and I’m not even sure he’s a HOF quarterback at all.
I actually feel bad for the Ravens and the Bills this year. Both of them would have given the Eagles a better game.
I think the Chiefs were flat out done and ready to be dethroned. Especially when Kelce was walking to the stadium looking like a 70's pornstar. Also, great drink advertising as well ::)
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I certainly never thought he was first ballot, and I’m not even sure he’s a HOF quarterback at all.
His 2 SB wins and family name will definitely get him in.
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I certainly never thought he was first ballot, and I’m not even sure he’s a HOF quarterback at all.
He absolutely is.
He is in rarified air.
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He absolutely is.
He is in rarified air.
Ehh, zero All Pros, four or five Pro Bowls, he wasn’t even the best of his era. Not even top three. I wouldn’t cry foul if he eventually gets in, but he could also not get in and I’d have no issue with that. There’s no such thing as the Hall of Very Good.
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Ehh, zero All Pros, four or five Pro Bowls, he wasn’t even the best of his era. Not even top three. I wouldn’t cry foul if he eventually gets in, but he could also not get in and I’d have no issue with that. There’s no such thing as the Hall of Very Good.
You could not tell a history of the NFL that didn't include Eli Manning.
Two time SB MVP.
Biggest upset in SB history, beating the statistically greatest team in history.
Greatest single play in NFL history. Also made another insane play on the game winning drive in the next Superbowl. Earned his wins in the clutch.
Owns Tom Brady, who some consider to be the best QB ever.
Plus, the paths leading up to those SBs were insane. Nothing like the 2 win gift paths to the show that other teams regularly got.
Also, 210 games played consecutively, with not one game missed to injury in a 16 year career.
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You could not tell a history of the NFL that didn't include Eli Manning.
Two time SB MVP.
Biggest upset in SB history, beating the statistically greatest team in history.
Greatest single play in NFL history. Also made another insane play on the game winning drive in the next Superbowl. Earned his wins in the clutch.
Owns Tom Brady, who some consider to be the best QB ever.
Plus, the paths leading up to those SBs were insane. Nothing like the 2 win gift paths to the show that other teams regularly got.
Also, 210 games played consecutively, with not one game missed to injury in a 16 year career.
Your first and last points are the only one of those that are 100% factual. Anything else is opinion and could be argued they are wrong. Biggest upset from a gambling perspective is Super Bowl 3 so that really can’t be used as an argument.
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Ehh, zero All Pros, four or five Pro Bowls, he wasn’t even the best of his era. Not even top three. I wouldn’t cry foul if he eventually gets in, but he could also not get in and I’d have no issue with that. There’s no such thing as the Hall of Very Good.
The Hall of Very Good is actually what it is now. There are all kinds of non greats in the hall.
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Your first and last points are the only one of those that are 100% factual. Anything else is opinion and could be argued they are wrong. Biggest upset from a gambling perspective is Super Bowl 3 so that really can’t be used as an argument.
Brady being Eli's bitch in the Super Bowl is not up for debate.
But, feel free to argue the others.
From a spread perspective, sure on Super Bowl 3. But I'm factoring in that Patriots were statistically the best offense in NFL history that year, and the Giants held them to 14 points, with 7 of them scored very late. Plus, undefeated season.
And, even if you did argue the points absolutely perfect, it's not like the things mentioned aren't top three in history anyway.
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Brady being Eli's bitch in the Super Bowl is not up for debate.
But, feel free to argue the others.
From a spread perspective, sure on Super Bowl 3. But I'm factoring in that Patriots were statistically the best offense in NFL history that year, and the Giants held them to 14 points, with 7 of them scored very late. Plus, undefeated season.
And, even if you did argue the points absolutely perfect, it's not like the things mentioned aren't top three in history anyway.
You wrote that he owned Brady which isn’t true, Brady is 2-3 against him. In the Super Bowl sure, but overall that’s not an owning. The tyree catch was pretty amazing and I would put it up there with some of the top plays but that’s a two man operation so he was part of one of the greatest plays.
Shit man, Joe Flacco has a superbowl mvp and the best TD/INT ratio in that post season. I’ll give you Eli was clutch and a very good quarterback but not even the best in his draft class nor his era. Like I said, I won’t squawk about him getting in, I’d just say don’t be surprised if he doesn’t get in.
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His 2 SB wins and family name will definitely get him in.
His dad isn't in the HOF.
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I can go to bed at night, knowing that the Patriots had the greatest 20 year dynasty in NFL history. Tom Brady is the best Quarterback in NFL history. Bill Bellichick is the best head coach in history. Rob Gronkowski is the best tight end in history. Adam Vinatieri is the best kicker in history.
I'm just proud to be a fan of such greatness. All other fans wish they could have witnessed such sustained success.
The Chiefs run is impressive, but I don't think they are going to do it for 14 or 15 more years.
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His dad isn't in the HOF.
No, he's more popular now than he was when he played. Peyton is in and Arch will be starting next year at Texas.
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I can go to bed at night, knowing that the Patriots had the greatest 20 year dynasty in NFL history. Tom Brady is the best Quarterback in NFL history. Bill Bellichick is the best head coach in history. Rob Gronkowski is the best tight end in history. Adam Vinatieri is the best kicker in history.
I'm just proud to be a fan of such greatness. All other fans wish they could have witnessed such sustained success.
The Chiefs run is impressive, but I don't think they are going to do it for 14 or 15 more years.
Gronk being the best is debatable. He was great and probably had a few more years left in him but his injuries robbed him of being the best.
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You wrote that he owned Brady which isn’t true, Brady is 2-3 against him. In the Super Bowl sure, but overall that’s not an owning. The tyree catch was pretty amazing and I would put it up there with some of the top plays but that’s a two man operation so he was part of one of the greatest plays.
Shit man, Joe Flacco has a superbowl mvp and the best TD/INT ratio in that post season. I’ll give you Eli was clutch and a very good quarterback but not even the best in his draft class nor his era. Like I said, I won’t squawk about him getting in, I’d just say don’t be surprised if he doesn’t get in.
The two man operation part is one of the reasons why the Tyree play is the greatest play. It wasn't just a throw and catch. It was a complete improbable escape, throw and catch. It was twofold. Add in the context of the what was on the line and it's easy.
Flacco was a one and done. Eli did it twice, against the best team of the era. Might have had the greatest playoff ever runs leading up to them too which is important, because all NE had to do was win two easy games to get there, although they almost botched Baltimore in 2011, and might have with the correct late call.
Either way, it's moot. He'll get in.
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The two man operation part is one of the reasons why the Tyree play is the greatest play. It wasn't just a throw and catch. It was a complete improbable escape, throw and catch. It was twofold. Add in the context of the what was on the line and it's easy.
Flacco was a one and done. Eli did it twice, against the best team of the era. Might have had the greatest playoff ever runs leading up to them too which is important, because all NE had to do was win two easy games to get there, although they almost botched Baltimore in 2011, and might have with the correct late call.
Either way, it's moot. He'll get in.
Off topic/on topic, bringing up Baltimore, obviously I am a fan so I remember the game, but the 2007 Pats should’ve lost to Baltimore in Baltimore that year. Kyle Boller outplayed Brady and had it not been for two bullshit calls on a drive that the Ravens had them stopped, they would’ve rolled in with a loss. The ref should have never let Rex Ryan calling the TO on that fourth down stand negate that stop and the false start flag that extended the drive was bogus too.
I also remember NY almost taking them down New Year’s Eve that year. I was at a buddies wedding, on a Sunday because they were cheap, and walking upstairs from the venue with a couple of guys to watch that game. It was good, but not Baltimore good(no homer).
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Off topic/on topic, bringing up Baltimore, obviously I am a fan so I remember the game, but the 2007 Pats should’ve lost to Baltimore in Baltimore that year. Kyle Boller outplayed Brady and had it not been for two bullshit calls on a drive that the Ravens had them stopped, they would’ve rolled in with a loss. The ref should have never let Rex Ryan calling the TO on that fourth down stand negate that stop and the false start flag that extended the drive was bogus too.
I also remember NY almost taking them down New Year’s Eve that year. I was at a buddies wedding, on a Sunday because they were cheap, and walking upstairs from the venue with a couple of guys to watch that game. It was good, but not Baltimore good(no homer).
Oh, I agree. You might remember more specifics, but I remember late in the Championship game, there was a non PI call in the end zone (I think) and Balt would have won. Or some call, not quite sure.
It was one of those calls the Pats always got during that time, which makes it hilarious when you see Pats fans complaining about the calls the Chiefs got.
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Oh, I agree. You might remember more specifics, but I remember late in the Championship game, there was a non PI call in the end zone (I think) and Balt would have won. Or some call, not quite sure.
It was one of those calls the Pats always got during that time, which makes it hilarious when you see Pats fans complaining about the calls the Chiefs got.
I was talking 07 hours talking about the 11 run. Yeah that one was a heart breaker. Lee Evans drops the winning TD in the end zone and then Billy Cundiff shanked a 30 years field goal to tie it and take to OT. All good though, you got your second SB win versus Brady and we got Boldin the next year and humiliated the Pats in the 2012 AFCCG and I won $1,300 for my yearly Ravens SB bet.
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I was talking 07 hours talking about the 11 run. Yeah that one was a heart breaker. Lee Evans drops the winning TD in the end zone and then Billy Cundiff shanked a 30 years field goal to tie it and take to OT. All good though, you got your second SB win versus Brady and we got Boldin the next year and humiliated the Pats in the 2012 AFCCG and I won $1,300 for my yearly Ravens SB bet.
Good way to look at it.
At least Balt has hope at the moment. Giants are a f'n mess.
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I can go to bed at night, knowing that the Patriots had the greatest 20 year dynasty in NFL history. Tom Brady is the best Quarterback in NFL history. Bill Bellichick is the best head coach in history. Rob Gronkowski is the best tight end in history. Adam Vinatieri is the best kicker in history.
I'm just proud to be a fan of such greatness. All other fans wish they could have witnessed such sustained success.
The Chiefs run is impressive, but I don't think they are going to do it for 14 or 15 more years.
Hard to argue against Brady being the GOAT and I doubt anyone wins that many SB in that amount of time.
Belichick would need to win a SB without Brady to be considered the best coach in history.
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Hard to argue against Brady being the GOAT and I doubt anyone wins that many SB in that amount of time.
Belichick would need to win a SB without Brady to be considered the best coach in history.
Not that hard to argue.
3 SB wins under spygate. Pats fans have deluded themselves thinking it was no big deal, however, it's on par, if not worse, than the 2017 Houston Astros cheating scandal.
I mean, read this: https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart
Now it was Goodell's turn. The league office lifer, then 49 years old, had been commissioner just 18 months, promoted, in part, because of Kraft's support. His audience wanted to know why he had managed his first crisis in a manner at once hasty and strangely secretive. Goodell had imposed a $500,000 fine on Belichick, a $250,000 fine on the team and the loss of a first-round draft pick just four days after league security officials had caught the Patriots and before he'd even sent a team of investigators to Foxborough, Massachusetts. Those investigators hadn't come up empty: Inside a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others, they found a library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents' signals, with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons. Among them were handwritten diagrams of the defensive signals of the Pittsburgh Steelers, including the notes used in the January 2002 AFC Championship Game won by the Patriots 24-17. Yet almost as quickly as the tapes and notes were found, they were destroyed, on Goodell's orders: League executives stomped the tapes into pieces and shredded the papers inside a Gillette Stadium conference room.
That's massive. Read about Ernie Adams in the article, an employee hired solely dedicated to cheating. It was SO bad, the league itself tried to cover it up. It's why they were so harsh on deflategate - owners were furious that the Pats got away with it.
Then, take two SB gifts - one from Seattle, one from Atlanta. Both were losses that were gifted wins because of sheer coaching stupidity. The games were locked up, and the coaches gave it back.
Tuck rule, hand in the neutral zone, etc, so many calls. In addition, played in the worst division in the NFL for 15 years, and had the rules were actually changed to benefit Brady from gettting hit.
So, yes, you can make the counter. I'm not sure that he's not the best, but spygate and all the above context needs to be part of the discussion, but they are always ignored.
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Hard to argue against Brady being the GOAT and I doubt anyone wins that many SB in that amount of time.
Belichick would need to win a SB without Brady to be considered the best coach in history.
Same applies for Andy Reid without Mahomes .I’ve read somewhere that Tampa coach Arians let TB run the show.
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Not that hard to argue.
3 SB wins under spygate. Pats fans have deluded themselves thinking it was no big deal, however, it's on par, if not worse, than the 2017 Houston Astros cheating scandal.
I mean, read this: https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart
That's massive. Read about Ernie Adams in the article, an employee hired solely dedicated to cheating. It was SO bad, the league itself tried to cover it up. It's why they were so harsh on deflategate - owners were furious that the Pats got away with it.
Then, take two SB gifts - one from Seattle, one from Atlanta. Both were losses that were gifted wins because of sheer coaching stupidity. The games were locked up, and the coaches gave it back.
Tuck rule, hand in the neutral zone, etc, so many calls. In addition, played in the worst division in the NFL for 15 years, and had the rules were actually changed to benefit Brady from gettting hit.
So, yes, you can make the counter. I'm not sure that he's not the best, but spygate and all the above context needs to be part of the discussion, but they are always ignored.
Good points and article.
I think it is reasonable to argue Brady deserves an asterisk. But I think he mitigated a lot of that damage by winning the SB in Tampa. Which something that Montana couldn't do in Kansas City, Farve couldn't do in Minnesota or NY, and Rodgers couldn't do in NY. Manning won a ring in Denver, but most would say he rode others coattails that year.
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You could not tell a history of the NFL that didn't include Eli Manning.
Two time SB MVP.
Biggest upset in SB history, beating the statistically greatest team in history.
Greatest single play in NFL history. Also made another insane play on the game winning drive in the next Superbowl. Earned his wins in the clutch.
Owns Tom Brady, who some consider to be the best QB ever.
Plus, the paths leading up to those SBs were insane. Nothing like the 2 win gift paths to the show that other teams regularly got.
Also, 210 games played consecutively, with not one game missed to injury in a 16 year career.
He was good when he played "Chad Powers"
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Good points and article.
I think it is reasonable to argue Brady deserves an asterisk. But I think he mitigated a lot of that damage by winning the SB in Tampa. Which something that Montana couldn't do in Kansas City, Farve couldn't do in Minnesota or NY, and Rodgers couldn't do in NY. Manning won a ring in Denver, but most would say he rode others coattails that year.
The TB aspect is a good point. But I honestly don't know what type of teams Montana and such had in those cities.
I'm fine with the title and asterisk solution. I'm just amazed how certain teams/players are vilified for certain things, while for others, they get a pass.
Take David Ortiz, for example. ARod, Bonds, Clemens are all out of the HoF for steroid use. but I don't think Bonds or Clemens ever failed a test. Ortiz was actually on the list of 103 during the union negotiations, but the media bent over backwards to create plausible deniability and vote him in first ballot.
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He was good when he played "Chad Powers"
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Yes, phenomenal actor, announcer, tv personality, and ambassador of the sport as well.
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Gronk will be at the ASC Expo ,he reminds me little bit PJ Braun.