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Title: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: loco on February 04, 2025, 02:52:29 PM
Trump is sending illegals who are gang members there, whether or not they're originally from El Salvador:



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Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 04, 2025, 04:40:56 PM
This is a good place for MS-13 types to go, but we shouldn’t be sending our citizens there. That said, violent criminals who we deport I have no issue with it and will gladly pay the additional tax to compensate El Salvador for it.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Kwon on February 05, 2025, 06:29:04 AM
This is a good place for MS-13 types to go, but we shouldn’t be sending our citizens there. That said, violent criminals who we deport I have no issue with it and will gladly pay the additional tax to compensate El Salvador for it.

Rapists, Pedos, Murderers and Ghettoists that commit crime after crime should be sent there, even if they´re not from there.

All those types of people should be sent to El Salvador :D
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 05, 2025, 06:42:37 AM
I have mixed feelings about this. This is a fate worse than death in my view and torture. And as I understand it, they haven't been to court and they are there indefinitely, they just rounded up everyone with gang tattoos. Sure they are scum, but still, each man should probably be afforded his day in court. I'm also against torture on principle, like the US tortured innocent people just to check if they had info. Experts say info from torture is not reliable either. It's just beneath civilized countries imo, even if I can understand a victim himself wanting to torture his perp. Someone said you can tell a countrie's level of civilization by it's treatment of prisoners and I believe that.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Royalty on February 05, 2025, 06:53:31 AM
I have mixed feelings about this. This is a fate worse than death in my view and torture. And as I understand it, they haven't been to court and they are there indefinitely, they just rounded up everyone with gang tattoos. Sure they are scum, but still, each man should probably be afforded his day in court. I'm also against torture on principle, like the US tortured innocent people just to check if they had info. Experts say info from torture is not reliable either. It's just beneath civilized countries imo, even if I can understand a victim himself wanting to torture his perp. Someone said you can tell a countrie's level of civilization by it's treatment of prisoners and I believe that.

The district attorney’s and judges in this country are paid off by satanist’s (Soros) who want this country to fall
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 06, 2025, 12:51:01 AM
Living free in El Salvador would be like prison.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: falco on February 06, 2025, 01:07:20 AM
El Salvador not only locked them. It destroyed the memory of the deceased gang members and their families, by destroying their graves, like it was done after WWII with anyone linked to nazis and SS oficials. They shamed their family.

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Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Sissysquats on February 06, 2025, 05:19:16 AM
I have mixed feelings about this. This is a fate worse than death in my view and torture. And as I understand it, they haven't been to court and they are there indefinitely, they just rounded up everyone with gang tattoos. Sure they are scum, but still, each man should probably be afforded his day in court. I'm also against torture on principle, like the US tortured innocent people just to check if they had info. Experts say info from torture is not reliable either. It's just beneath civilized countries imo, even if I can understand a victim himself wanting to torture his perp. Someone said you can tell a countrie's level of civilization by it's treatment of prisoners and I believe that.

  They should have considered the victims before the did the crimes
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 06, 2025, 05:41:06 AM
  They should have considered the victims before the did the crimes

Yes however I'm apprehensive of any system that tolerates a certain percentage of innocents to suffer for the greater good. And when in doubt, better to let free than convict. JMHO.

What do you and others feel about what Duterte did? He told people to kill any drug addicted family members because they were coming to do it in any case. I'm sure there were innocents killed too. Never mind the problem of killing for addiction (to me it's bad).

I guess you could round up all people with gang tattoos in the US in the same way and crime/murders would drop instantly.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Kwon on February 06, 2025, 08:33:17 AM
Divided about this


Sure, im no supporter of gangs and gangcrimes and theyre the worst of the worst for sure

But either you treat them as humans and try to help them get back in society or kill em off


No need to put em all in a crowded sardine-can to rot away, that is costly to keep them alive and is pure torture.

And why destroy graves?


Should you gather all folks with tattoos in the US and incinerate them? Not caring if some are innocent?


I do agree with killing off insane criminals/gangmembers that keep repeating crimes and that have no chance of change in their ways. Just a waste for society and a risk to keep alive.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: robcguns on February 06, 2025, 08:36:18 AM
El Salvador not only locked them. It destroyed the memory of the deceased gang members and their families, by destroying their graves, like it was done after WWII with anyone linked to nazis and SS oficials. They shamed their family.

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I like that.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: wes on February 06, 2025, 10:16:37 AM
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: gib on February 06, 2025, 11:01:02 AM
Join a gang, get tatted up. You pay the price. I have no concerns with this at all. Lock all these scum up. No one forced them to become members of a criminal gang.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Darren Avey on February 06, 2025, 11:53:32 AM
Martyn ford would run that prison
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Sissysquats on February 06, 2025, 12:47:06 PM
I have mixed feelings about this. This is a fate worse than death in my view and torture. And as I understand it, they haven't been to court and they are there indefinitely, they just rounded up everyone with gang tattoos. Sure they are scum, but still, each man should probably be afforded his day in court. I'm also against torture on principle, like the US tortured innocent people just to check if they had info. Experts say info from torture is not reliable either. It's just beneath civilized countries imo, even if I can understand a victim himself wanting to torture his perp. Someone said you can tell a countrie's level of civilization by it's treatment of prisoners and I believe that.

  If one is sporting gang tats i have no problem with them rotting in purgatory
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: joswift on February 06, 2025, 01:42:18 PM
Martyn ford would run that prison
;D
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: obsidian on February 06, 2025, 02:24:34 PM
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If they all were Immortan Joe's War Boys they could probably overwhelm all those guards and rip their heads off. Yes, many would die. But their numbers would make the difference.

There is no way in hell I would submit to a prison life. I'd rather die on my feet and take out as many as I can in the process. It's not worth living a life of humiliation and sharing toilets and all kinds of diseases and bugs with a thousand other inmates.

Edit: I see they are cuffed. War Boys would never allow that to happen.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 06, 2025, 02:34:26 PM
If they all were Immortan Joe's War Boys they could probably overwhelm all those guards and rip their heads off. Yes, many would die. But their numbers would make the difference.

There is no way in hell I would submit to a prison life. I'd rather die on my feet and take out as many as I can in the process. It's not worth living a life of humiliation and sharing toilets and all kinds of diseases and bugs with a thousand other inmates.

Edit: I see they are cuffed. War Boys would never allow that to happen.

I agree with that. From what I've seen they just stand and stare into space all day.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: 1Patrick on February 06, 2025, 04:29:40 PM
Used them for heavy labor till they die .84k prisoners would build new highway in 3 weeks .
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 06, 2025, 05:40:20 PM
Used them for heavy labor till they die .84k prisoners would build new highway in 3 weeks .


This. Then harvest their organs.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: falco on February 07, 2025, 01:35:56 AM
Divided about this


Sure, im no supporter of gangs and gangcrimes and theyre the worst of the worst for sure

But either you treat them as humans and try to help them get back in society or kill em off


No need to put em all in a crowded sardine-can to rot away, that is costly to keep them alive and is pure torture.

And why destroy graves?


Should you gather all folks with tattoos in the US and incinerate them? Not caring if some are innocent?


I do agree with killing off insane criminals/gangmembers that keep repeating crimes and that have no chance of change in their ways. Just a waste for society and a risk to keep alive.

    Keeping them like sardines, without any kind of privacy and being humiliated daily is part of the process of rehabilitation of society. It's a message for young aspiring pandilleros (gang members). Someone who destroyed families without any sense of care, needs to perceive where the authority relies.
   
Personally i do not believe those murders will ever be "rehabilitated". Killing gives them status in their twisted mind.
   
Regarding killing them, El Salvador is mostly Christian and very religious, hence death should be solely on the hands of God and not men.
   
I do not belive tatoos were solely the mean of conviction.

Desecrating their tombs in their highly religious society must have a very profound shaming effect, all to avoid that youngsters join gang life, since it will affect their elders honor.


   
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: falco on February 07, 2025, 01:39:34 AM
  If one is sporting gang tats i have no problem with them rotting in purgatory

Tats have different meaning worldwide. I know a guy that has a joker face tatoo on his shoulder, and he went to Brazil on vacation. It seems like having a clown tatoo in Brazil means cop killer. Needless to say he got himself in serious trouble with the police.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: joswift on February 07, 2025, 01:44:57 AM
why dont they take their trousers away as well?
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: 1Patrick on February 07, 2025, 03:45:50 AM
Honduras fella once told me his friend came back home from USA after 10 years  working crazy hrs. and saving money . Saved up  about 100 k and built  a nice house . MS13 came over and took his house. Police have told him they can give him protection for 48 hrs to pack up and leave after that he is on his  own.
Honduras is by far the worst gang infested place from entire South America countries .
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Fortress on February 07, 2025, 11:41:16 AM
Someone said you can tell a country’s level of civilization by it's treatment of prisoners.

Oft-repeated statement, yes.

Yes and no.

Oh, and …

It’s and its

Look into it.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Fortress on February 07, 2025, 11:45:52 AM
Fortress believes in NO MERCY for violent offenders.

If you’re not gonna outright kill them, well, sentence them to an existence of daily struggle, torture and abject misery.

Destroy their family gravesites, yes.

To know true human garbage is to fully endorse the above.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: falco on February 07, 2025, 01:33:01 PM
I have mixed feelings about this. This is a fate worse than death in my view and torture. And as I understand it, they haven't been to court and they are there indefinitely, they just rounded up everyone with gang tattoos. Sure they are scum, but still, each man should probably be afforded his day in court. I'm also against torture on principle, like the US tortured innocent people just to check if they had info. Experts say info from torture is not reliable either. It's just beneath civilized countries imo, even if I can understand a victim himself wanting to torture his perp. Someone said you can tell a countrie's level of civilization by it's treatment of prisoners and I believe that.
You are obviously a civilized man. In El Salvador gang life, tribal values rule. That is why they are treated like beasts. To send the message and probably because they dont know any better. Being civil to animals is perceived as weakness.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 07, 2025, 10:40:52 PM
Oft-repeated statement, yes.

Yes and no.

Oh, and …

It’s and its

Look into it.

Fuck, I hate spelling mistakes like that lol. Seriously, sometimes I wake up at night and realise I spelled something wrong on getbig and have to go edit  :D

I just think how easily I could make a mistake or wrong choice or even be wrongly convicted and end up in "federal rape your ass prison" (even though I'm in Europe with "hotel prisons") or be tortured by the government at a "black site" for some made up reason and these types of pain factories just feel wrong. Just kill them instead if need be.

You are obviously a civilized man. In El Salvador gang life, tribal values rule. That is why they are treated like beasts. To send the message and probably because they dont know any better. Being civil to animals is perceived as weakness.

Well it's kinda like the Duterte in the Filippines example I gave. His heavy handed methods drew a lot of criticism world wide but then many said he was just wonderful, just kill the worthless scum without wasting time with trials etc, if a bunch of innoocents are sacrificed at the same time, oh well, it's the price we should gladly pay. I think that's what the President in El Salvador said too, some innocents will be swept along too but it's ok, society benefits overall. I don't know, I think I prefer the more "civilized" western systems despite their faults. Especially when you know guys like Duterte are probably corrupt homicidal psychopaths themselves, who knows what crimes they have done. But I do see the counterarguments.
Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Royalty on March 19, 2025, 03:19:41 PM
Deportations to El Salvador are all over the news right now.


The armed guards make sure that the deportee’s do not raise their heads. The guards forcefully walk these prisoners in a bent over position.


Title: Re: CECOT - El Salvador doesn't play around regarding gangs and violent crime...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 19, 2025, 07:25:43 PM
I was writing of Duterte, now he's in the The Hague... "what did I do?" he asks. His own country gave him up.

Deportations to El Salvador are all over the news right now.


The armed guards make sure that the deportee’s do not raise their heads. The guards forcefully walk these prisoners in a bent over position.

I saw the same in Russian prison documentaries. Plus barking murder dogs at their heels just in case.