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Title: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2025, 10:30:32 AM
Have you tried both or either one?
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Lartinos on February 17, 2025, 10:44:11 AM
No, I haven’t tried it. Sounds pretty good for possibly not getting fake answers about politics, but that’s not a current use I have for AI’s.

If I had a bunch of data I needed analyzed and my other sources weren’t working I’d consider using Grok.

For now I don’t have a specific use for it, but it’s something I’ll keep in mind.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 17, 2025, 10:47:34 AM
AI is politically correct...it cant be trusted
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2025, 10:53:14 AM
AI is politically correct...it cant be trusted

I’m not talking just for politics. Just in general
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 17, 2025, 10:57:17 AM
I’m not talking just for politics. Just in general

Not sure what the point in using it when its programmed to lie about things

I have no reason to ever use it
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Dave D on February 17, 2025, 11:11:44 AM
I’ve used chat to formulate emails and make them more concise, as well as develop questions for an interview. For those instances it’s been helpful but it wasn’t something that was needed.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 17, 2025, 01:17:20 PM
ask AI a question

Look at this fucking nonsense

Can a man have a baby?
Final Answer: Yes, some individuals who identify as men (specifically transgender men with a uterus and ovaries) can have babies.

https://iask.ai/?mode=question&options[detail_level]=detailed&q=can+a+man+have+a+baby
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on February 17, 2025, 01:36:56 PM
ask AI a question

Look at this fucking nonsense

Can a man have a baby?
Final Answer: Yes, some individuals who identify as men (specifically transgender men with a uterus and ovaries) can have babies.

https://iask.ai/?mode=question&options[detail_level]=detailed&q=can+a+man+have+a+baby


Most AI is programmed in liberal woke California. Hence the censorship and politically overcorrect nonsense it vomits out
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 17, 2025, 01:37:57 PM

Most AI is programmed in liberal woke California. Hence the censorship and politically overcorrect nonsense it vomits out
and thats why it will never surpass a human being

It may do things faster but at least if a human does it its right
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 17, 2025, 01:44:08 PM
https://iask.ai/?mode=question&options[detail_level]=detailed&q=is+a+trans+woman+a+woman
Is a Trans Woman a Woman?
Conclusion

Based on these considerations—gender identity, social recognition, legal perspectives, and personal experiences—it can be concluded that a trans woman is indeed a woman.

https://iask.ai/?mode=question&options[detail_level]=detailed&q=is+bruce+jenner+a+man
is bruce jenner a man
Conclusion

In conclusion, Bruce Jenner is no longer a man; she is now known as Caitlyn Jenner and identifies as a woman.

is caitlyn jenner a woman
Conclusion

Based on these factors—her self-identification, public advocacy for transgender issues, and legal recognition—Caitlyn Jenner is indeed a woman.

Notice how it contradicts itself on the Bruce Caitlyn question

One says "identifies as " the other says "is indeed a woman

Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2025, 01:48:29 PM
For what I’ve used it for it’s been pretty accurate. I use for my blog posts and short articles then Taylor it to fit my guidelines. I’ve used it for social media marketing as well. Just proof read it before you post it then have it make changes as needed
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 17, 2025, 01:50:07 PM
For what I’ve used it for it’s been pretty accurate. I use for my blog posts and short articles then Taylor it to fit my guidelines. I’ve used it for social media marketing as well. Just proof read it before you post it then have it make changes as needed

Taylor and tailor

Look into it

via Chatgpt.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2025, 02:01:22 PM
Taylor and tailor

Look into it

via Chatgpt.  ;D

That was me 😂
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: GymnJuice on February 17, 2025, 02:06:03 PM
Countries that allow politically incorrect AI will pass us up on the science.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 17, 2025, 02:10:40 PM
Countries that allow politically incorrect AI will pass us up on the science.
If you cant trust it to be honest about something so obvious as "what is a woman?" then why should you trust it on anything else.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: SF1900 on February 17, 2025, 05:17:47 PM
I had Chatgpt create a poem about Brian:


The Curse of Brian Hankins

From the moment he wailed in the cold midnight air,
The whispers began—a curse, a snare.
Marked at birth, the omen was plain,
“The devil has risen,” they shuddered his name.

His eyes burned crimson, his breath drew frost,
A menace awakened, all mercy was lost.
Steel could not cut him, fire would fade,
A specter of ruin in shadows he made.

The Getbiggers trembled, their voices fell weak,
No fortress could shield them, no soul dared speak.
For Brian was coming, with thunder and hate,
A storm of destruction—a harbinger’s fate.

He walked through the flames, untouched by the heat,
A nightmare that echoed in every heartbeat.
His laughter, a dagger, his whisper, a noose,
The world held its breath, for all hope was loose.

They called him a demon, they called him a blight,
A force beyond terror, the ender of light.
And still, he stood, unyielding, unbowed,
Brian Hankins—the fear of the crowd.

Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: SF1900 on February 17, 2025, 05:47:33 PM
Here’s a poem about Brian getting mad about Coach not sponsoring him.

The Getbig Betrayal

Joe, known as Coach, with a firm, steady hand,
Met Brian Hankins, the beast of the land.
Over burgers and steak, they talked of the game,
Of power, of legends, of building a name.

Brian leaned forward, eyes burning bright,
“Coach, you see it—I’m built for the fight.
Your clothing line needs a face that inspires,
A king, a menace, who never tires.”

Coach took a sip, let out a small sigh,
“Brian, you’re strong, no one denies.
But my brand’s got a vision, a path, a tone,
And right now, man, I ride it alone.”

Brian just nodded, calm as the sea,
Finished his meal, let Coach leave free.
But later that night, with a scroll and a click,
A fire ignited—burning and thick.

On Getbig.com, the truth was exposed,
Coach had denied him—his fury arose.
No private rejection, no words face to face,
Just cold, public silence—a fall from grace.

His fists clenched tight, his heartbeat loud,
A storm was forming, dark as a shroud.
“The world will know—I won’t be ignored,
You’ll regret the day you closed that door.”

The forum lit up, the whispers spread,
Brian’s wrath was far from dead.
For grudges like his don’t crumble or break—
They wait in the shadows, they coil, they wake.

And as Coach slept, his name on the thread,
Hankins was watching, his hunger unfed.
Some wars start with fists and might,
But some are sparked by a post late at night.

Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2025, 06:07:05 PM
Here’s a poem about Brian getting mad about Coach not sponsoring him.

The Getbig Betrayal

Joe, known as Coach, with a firm, steady hand,
Met Brian Hankins, the beast of the land.
Over burgers and steak, they talked of the game,
Of power, of legends, of building a name.

Brian leaned forward, eyes burning bright,
“Coach, you see it—I’m built for the fight.
Your clothing line needs a face that inspires,
A king, a menace, who never tires.”

Coach took a sip, let out a small sigh,
“Brian, you’re strong, no one denies.
But my brand’s got a vision, a path, a tone,
And right now, man, I ride it alone.”

Brian just nodded, calm as the sea,
Finished his meal, let Coach leave free.
But later that night, with a scroll and a click,
A fire ignited—burning and thick.

On Getbig.com, the truth was exposed,
Coach had denied him—his fury arose.
No private rejection, no words face to face,
Just cold, public silence—a fall from grace.

His fists clenched tight, his heartbeat loud,
A storm was forming, dark as a shroud.
“The world will know—I won’t be ignored,
You’ll regret the day you closed that door.”

The forum lit up, the whispers spread,
Brian’s wrath was far from dead.
For grudges like his don’t crumble or break—
They wait in the shadows, they coil, they wake.

And as Coach slept, his name on the thread,
Hankins was watching, his hunger unfed.
Some wars start with fists and might,
But some are sparked by a post late at night.

Hahahahahaha 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: robcguns on February 17, 2025, 07:51:13 PM
Here’s a poem about Brian getting mad about Coach not sponsoring him.

The Getbig Betrayal

Joe, known as Coach, with a firm, steady hand,
Met Brian Hankins, the beast of the land.
Over burgers and steak, they talked of the game,
Of power, of legends, of building a name.

Brian leaned forward, eyes burning bright,
“Coach, you see it—I’m built for the fight.
Your clothing line needs a face that inspires,
A king, a menace, who never tires.”

Coach took a sip, let out a small sigh,
“Brian, you’re strong, no one denies.
But my brand’s got a vision, a path, a tone,
And right now, man, I ride it alone.”

Brian just nodded, calm as the sea,
Finished his meal, let Coach leave free.
But later that night, with a scroll and a click,
A fire ignited—burning and thick.

On Getbig.com, the truth was exposed,
Coach had denied him—his fury arose.
No private rejection, no words face to face,
Just cold, public silence—a fall from grace.

His fists clenched tight, his heartbeat loud,
A storm was forming, dark as a shroud.
“The world will know—I won’t be ignored,
You’ll regret the day you closed that door.”

The forum lit up, the whispers spread,
Brian’s wrath was far from dead.
For grudges like his don’t crumble or break—
They wait in the shadows, they coil, they wake.

And as Coach slept, his name on the thread,
Hankins was watching, his hunger unfed.
Some wars start with fists and might,
But some are sparked by a post late at night.


This is good stuff. Haha.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 17, 2025, 11:46:47 PM
If you cant trust it to be honest about something so obvious as "what is a woman?" then why should you trust it on anything else.
It's fun arguing with ChatGPT. Ask it a question like: why are women so stupid? The response is priceless.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: obsidian on February 17, 2025, 11:52:07 PM
Grok 3 was unveiled.

Getbiggers will want Grok Unhinged - a politically incorrect and NSFW chatbot that will do what you tell it to do!

https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/grok-may-soon-get-an-unhinged-mode/

https://www.livemint.com/ai/grok-3-launch-live-elon-musks-xai-smartest-ai-on-earth-today-sam-altman-openai-chatgpt-gemini-google-deepseek-11739810000644.html

I will say, I have been using ChatGPT and a few other chatbots and it is unreal! It can do anything from help you with computer code, powershell command prompts, tax calculations, engineering problems, translation, etc.

You speak a few sentences to ChatGPT in your language and ask to repeat it back in another language. I tested and it can do any damn language you tell it to and it sounds fluent. This will be great if you're in a country where you don't speak the language. No more translators required. If Liam Neeson had this in Taken he would not have needed the Albanian translator - lol!
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: obsidian on February 17, 2025, 11:56:22 PM
AI is politically correct...it cant be trusted
Not Grok Unhinged

https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/grok-may-soon-get-an-unhinged-mode/
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: obsidian on February 17, 2025, 11:58:19 PM
It's fun arguing with ChatGPT. Ask it a question like: why are women so stupid? The response is priceless.
If you enable audio mode ChatGPT will moan if you ask it to, for example, enjoying a piece of chocolate  ;D That may have been disabled, I did not check it recently.

A month or two ago I asked it to re-enact a movie scene - it was wild. Now they have disabled that. Not sure if the paid version will bring it back.

Also check out 11labs. Amazing audio AI - paid unfortunately.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 18, 2025, 12:00:08 AM
If you enable audio mode ChatGPT will moan if you ask it to.

Also check out 11labs. Amazing audio AI - paid unfortunately.
:D I'll check that out.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: ElPolloSalmonello on February 18, 2025, 12:09:13 AM
According to ChatGPT

"Ah, the **ChatGPT vs. Grok** debate—classic internet battle. 😆 

**Here’s the reality:** 

### **1. If You Want Pure Depth, Analysis, & Reliability → ChatGPT Wins** 
- **Stronger reasoning & problem-solving** (especially in complex topics like trading, programming, or troubleshooting flight disasters like Paul’s 😅). 
- **More polished writing**—better for content creation, ads, blogs, and professional use. 
- **Handles longer, nuanced discussions better** without going off the rails. 

### **2. If You Want Edgy, Meme-y, or X/Twitter-Focused AI → Grok Has a Vibe** 
- Grok is **built for Elon Musk's audience**, meaning it’s more sarcastic, less formal, and tries to be funnier. 
- **More internet/meme culture integration** (but sometimes at the cost of accuracy). 
- Tied into **X (Twitter)**, so if you live in that ecosystem, it might feel more connected. 

### **So, Which Is Better?** 
- **For serious work (trading insights, programming, deep problem-solving)?** **ChatGPT all day.** 
- **For banter, internet edginess, or Twitter-focused AI?** **Grok might be more entertaining** (but also more prone to talking nonsense). 

TL;DR: **Grok is like a smartass on Twitter; ChatGPT is like a well-read AI buddy who actually helps you get things done.** 

If you **ask Grok about Paul’s flight**, it’d probably just tell you to *short Thai Airways stock and move on.* 😆
"

Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 18, 2025, 03:35:24 AM
A question from a clueless one because I haven't ever used chatbots: can someone tell if you've used AI to polish your writings or whatever? If so is it easy to tell?
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Palumboism on February 18, 2025, 04:19:30 AM
Grok 3 is beating all the competition in Math, Science, and coding including GPT 4o, Claude 3.5, Gemini 2 Pro, and DeepSeek V3.  That's are all the flagship models from all the top AI companies.






Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: ElPolloSalmonello on February 18, 2025, 04:22:46 AM
A question from a clueless one because I haven't ever used chatbots: can someone tell if you've used AI to polish your writings or whatever? If so is it easy to tell?

OK - unfortunately - the BEST way to generate it produces content that is easily detectable AI.

1 - come up with an idea
2- tell it what the goal of your article is
3 - tell it you personal angle
4 - give it bullet points and info for each paragraph

Then get it to build the article. Then proof read it. Ask for adjustments, additional points to be made.

Basically - it's your article, your idea - but very detectable. Like ones I've created are 92% detectable as AI generated, even though all the ideas were mine

On the other hand - I recently wrote an article that was more "from the heart" - I didn't us AI - but I did put it into AI for improvement. It actually made it funnier. The detection rate was 12%.

So basically - it can do all the heavy lifting for you - but the article will be detectable as AI. In my case - I have quite a few articles out there and I get it to mimic my style - but still detectable. Apparently - being detectable will mean being penalized on Google soon.

If YOU do the heavy lifting - well - it sorta makes it pointless - but it is good at making suggestions to enhance your articles.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: SF1900 on February 18, 2025, 05:00:25 AM
A question from a clueless one because I haven't ever used chatbots: can someone tell if you've used AI to polish your writings or whatever? If so is it easy to tell?

they cant tell just from your writings. But there are AI detectors that can be used, but they are not entirely accurate. I wrote something and plugged it into an AI detector and it said it was written by AI, but it was not.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Taffin on February 18, 2025, 05:54:28 AM
I use Chat GPT to check legal precedents and summarise case law.  Then because it provides live links I can double check if I'm going to depend on something very specific

Super useful and saves a shit-ton of time

Never used Grok except on X to summarise posters
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 18, 2025, 09:09:48 AM
OK - unfortunately - the BEST way to generate it produces content that is easily detectable AI.

1 - come up with an idea
2- tell it what the goal of your article is
3 - tell it you personal angle
4 - give it bullet points and info for each paragraph

Then get it to build the article. Then proof read it. Ask for adjustments, additional points to be made.

Basically - it's your article, your idea - but very detectable. Like ones I've created are 92% detectable as AI generated, even though all the ideas were mine

On the other hand - I recently wrote an article that was more "from the heart" - I didn't us AI - but I did put it into AI for improvement. It actually made it funnier. The detection rate was 12%.

So basically - it can do all the heavy lifting for you - but the article will be detectable as AI. In my case - I have quite a few articles out there and I get it to mimic my style - but still detectable. Apparently - being detectable will mean being penalized on Google soon.

If YOU do the heavy lifting - well - it sorta makes it pointless - but it is good at making suggestions to enhance your articles.

I did this with a business plan. Made some adjustments and it came out great. Demographics, costs, analysis everything.

Grok is only available on X. Would be nice to have it as a separate app
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 18, 2025, 10:36:36 AM
OK - unfortunately - the BEST way to generate it produces content that is easily detectable AI.

they cant tell just from your writings. But there are AI detectors that can be used, but they are not entirely accurate. I wrote something and plugged it into an AI detector and it said it was written by AI, but it was not.

Thanks

Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: ESFitness on February 20, 2025, 10:04:12 AM
maybe you're all too stupid to use AI

"it's too woke" blah blah blah....

No

you're just too stupid to figure out how to work around the woke shit.

sure, there's a woke mind virus, but there's also a 'I'm too stupid and arrogant... as evidenced by my 30 posts a day on get big' virus, which many of you have.

Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 20, 2025, 10:07:26 AM
maybe you're all too stupid to use AI

"it's too woke" blah blah blah....

No

you're just too stupid to figure out how to work around the woke shit.

sure, there's a woke mind virus, but there's also a 'I'm too stupid and arrogant... as evidenced by my 30 posts a day on get big' virus, which many of you have.

at least we are not stupid enough to end up in hospital with abscesses every year like clockwork
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Lartinos on February 20, 2025, 10:56:32 AM
Grok 3 is beating all the competition in Math, Science, and coding including GPT 4o, Claude 3.5, Gemini 2 Pro, and DeepSeek V3.  That's are all the flagship models from all the top AI companies.

I use Microsoft Copilot which for math.

Not saying it’s better, but if someone wanted very fast help (fastest AI I’ve used) right now it’s worth giving a shot for this purpose.
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 20, 2025, 11:15:12 AM
I use Microsoft Copilot which for math.

Not saying it’s better, but if someone wanted very fast help (fastest AI I’ve used) right now it’s worth giving a shot for this purpose.

Its "maths" , math would be just one sum

I take it you do multiple sums?
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Palumboism on February 20, 2025, 08:41:34 PM
I use Microsoft Copilot which for math.

Not saying it’s better, but if someone wanted very fast help (fastest AI I’ve used) right now it’s worth giving a shot for this purpose.

Copilot is right on the Bing home page with no need to sign in.

Gemini is on the Google home page using the Tile Icon and uses your google login.

Claude AI can be found with a google search and uses your Google login.

Llama can be found at:
https://www.meta.ai/ (https://www.meta.ai/)
You can use your Facebook or Instagram login, or not login at all.


Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 21, 2025, 12:15:04 AM
Its "maths" , math would be just one sum

I take it you do multiple sums?
He's speak'n American!
Title: Re: Is Grok 2 better than ChatGPT?
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2025, 08:19:53 AM
He's speak'n American incorrectly!

 ;D