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https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/hamas-shiri-bibas-wrong-body-israel-hostages-ceasefire
The body of an unknown person has been handed over by Hamas alongside the remains of Israel's youngest hostages, adding fresh anguish to a grieving family.
Israeli authorities formally identified the bodies of Kfir Bibas, aged nine months, and his four-year-old brother Ariel, who were returned to Israel yesterday.
However, the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) confirmed that a third body, claimed by Hamas to be the children's mother Shiri Bibas, did not match her identity and remains unidentified.
I would estimate 90% of people in Palestine are supporters of Hamas
This wont end until they are all gone.
If the UK government has its way they will all be living in hotels at the taxpayers expense.
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https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/hamas-shiri-bibas-wrong-body-israel-hostages-ceasefire
I would estimate 90% of people in Palestine are supporters of Hamas
This wont end until they are all gone.
If the UK government has its way they will all be living in hotels at the taxpayers expense.
Same with democrats in the U.S. I'm surprised there hasn't been a move to bring them all here.
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A bit unrelated, but this story was pretty out of the ordinary.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-man-accused-hate-crime-after-israelis-thought-be-palestinian-were-shot-2025-02-19/
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Same with democrats in the U.S. I'm surprised there hasn't been a move to bring them all here.
Zero chance that will ever happen on Trump's watch.
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My read is very different from the Israeli one, although I don't have intimate knowledge obviously. There's zero interest for Hamas to release the wrong body, they aren't stupid enough to think the identity isn't completely verified by the Israelis. My bet it was a mixup by Hamas just like they claim...
Neither Hamas nor Israel has proven their claims of how they died. My bet again is that the Hamas story is the right one. Zero interest in killing the hostages, they are worth everything to them now. Three freed Thai citizens arrived in Thailand just now and they say they were treated well, pita bread and cheese 6 days and then one day had meat, probably ate better than the captors - they are Hama's lifeline and extremely valuable. The Thai's were were and are Israel supporters working their manual labor jobs for years. Previous hostages were released emaciated but I bet the captors simply didn't have more food to give. At the same time Israel released Palestinian prisoners on stretchers and emaciated and probably tortured and fucked in the ass, that's the MO and condoned there.
I'm not a supporter of Mohammedans but you would have to be an idiot to believe anything Israel says. The official Mossad motto is "by deception wage war."
Who disagrees? :D
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My read is very different from the Israeli one, although I don't have intimate knowledge obviously. There's zero interest for Hamas to release the wrong body, they aren't stupid enough to think the identity isn't completely verified by the Israelis. My bet it was a mixup by Hamas just like they claim...
Neither Hamas nor Israel has proven their claims of how they died. My bet again is that the Hamas story is the right one. Zero interest in killing the hostages, they are worth everything to them now. Three freed Thai citizens arrived in Thailand just now and they say they were treated well, pita bread and cheese 6 days and then one day had meat, probably ate better than the captors - they are Hama's lifeline and extremely valuable. The Thai's were were and are Israel supporters working their manual labor jobs for years. Previous hostages were released emaciated but I bet the captors simply didn't have more food to give. At the same time Israel released Palestinian prisoners on stretchers and emaciated and probably tortured and fucked in the ass, that's the MO and condoned there.
I'm not a supporter of Mohammedans but you would have to be an idiot to believe anything Israel says. The official Mossad motto is "by deception wage war."
Who disagrees? :D
Not me. Couldn't agree more.
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Not me. Couldn't agree more.
Same here.
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https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/hamas-shiri-bibas-wrong-body-israel-hostages-ceasefire
I would estimate 90% of people in Palestine are supporters of Hamas
This wont end until they are all gone.
If the UK government has its way they will all be living in hotels at the taxpayers expense.
Where I live Palestinian colours are sprayed on post boxes & other objects ..oddly enough the Stadt doesn't do anything to clean the shit up.
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My read is very different from the Israeli one, although I don't have intimate knowledge obviously. There's zero interest for Hamas to release the wrong body, they aren't stupid enough to think the identity isn't completely verified by the Israelis. My bet it was a mixup by Hamas just like they claim...
Neither Hamas nor Israel has proven their claims of how they died. My bet again is that the Hamas story is the right one. Zero interest in killing the hostages, they are worth everything to them now. Three freed Thai citizens arrived in Thailand just now and they say they were treated well, pita bread and cheese 6 days and then one day had meat, probably ate better than the captors - they are Hama's lifeline and extremely valuable. The Thai's were were and are Israel supporters working their manual labor jobs for years. Previous hostages were released emaciated but I bet the captors simply didn't have more food to give. At the same time Israel released Palestinian prisoners on stretchers and emaciated and probably tortured and fucked in the ass, that's the MO and condoned there.
I'm not a supporter of Mohammedans but you would have to be an idiot to believe anything Israel says. The official Mossad motto is "by deception wage war."
Who disagrees? :D
pain and pleasure are close bedfellows...
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Where I live Palestinian colours are sprayed on post boxes & other objects ..oddly enough the Stadt doesn't do anything to clean the shit up.
It's irritating when it's in non-Muslim Euro and other countries. But here it's argued that Muslims get protections because Jews paved the way. Hard for me to disagree. Now the UK is pushing for legislation making it illegal to criticise Muslims, just like they have done for the Jews.
https://www.unz.com/article/hate-bacon-holocaust-where-jews-lead-muslims-follow/
OTOH Trump now made it criminal for foreign citizens to criticise Jews and Israel but experts are unclear of what this executive order covers or means in practise since the constitution they said guarantees free speech for everyone dwelling in the states. It's also hypocritical for Vance to criticise Europe for the lack of free speech and the cancellations of elections where "extreme right wing" parties won (Romania). Can you criticise Jews in the states? Aren't "white supremacists" characterised as the US's biggest domestic terror threat when they try to organise politically? Every right wing movement starting out is immediately infiltrated by the Feds trying to goad them into crimes they never would otherwise committed. Though Germany tries to outlaw the AfD party, already having pulled the members' legal weapons licenses... Musk and Trump are supporting them although they would do the same in the US :D
Regarding terrorism and terrorist. As the cliche goes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Mine and many others' view is that Hamas are more freedom fighters. Yahia Sanwar for example was born into a refugee camp, and he died there. What would you expect of a people with at least some self respect? It's generally agreed that modern terrorism targeting civilians originated in Israel. Remember the hotel David bombing and assassinations of the British in the area at the time. During the Nakba Israel threw a Palestinian boy in the oven, after Oct 7 they tried to concoct a story about Hamas doing the same. Israel acts extrajuducially even all over the world, assassinating people in other countries, kidnapping them and so on. Also don't forget USS Liberty which they never had to answer for, as the US President said, "I don't care about a few dead sailors, I'm not going to risk our relationship with Israel." He had ordered back the planes coming to defend Liberty. The surviving US sailors were warned if they ever spoke about it they would land in prison.
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It's irritating when it's in non-Muslim Euro and other countries. But here it's argued that Muslims get protections because Jews paved the way. Hard for me to disagree. Now the UK is pushing for legislation making it illegal to criticise Muslims, just like they have done for the Jews.
https://www.unz.com/article/hate-bacon-holocaust-where-jews-lead-muslims-follow/
OTOH Trump now made it criminal for foreign citizens to criticise Jews and Israel but experts are unclear of what this executive order covers or means in practise since the constitution they said guarantees free speech for everyone dwelling in the states. It's also hypocritical for Vance to criticise Europe for the lack of free speech and the cancellations of elections where "extreme right wing" parties won (Romania). Can you criticise Jews in the states? Aren't "white supremacists" characterised as the US's biggest domestic terror threat when they try to organise politically? Every right wing movement starting out is immediately infiltrated by the Feds trying to goad them into crimes they never would otherwise committed. Though Germany tries to outlaw the AfD party, already having pulled the members' legal weapons licenses... Musk and Trump are supporting them although they would do the same in the US :D
Regarding terrorism and terrorist. As the cliche goes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Mine and many others' view is that Hamas are more freedom fighters. Yahia Sanwar for example was born into a refugee camp, and he died there. What would you expect of a people with at least some self respect? It's generally agreed that modern terrorism targeting civilians originated in Israel. Remember the hotel David bombing and assassinations of the British in the area at the time. During the Nakba Israel threw a Palestinian boy in the oven, after Oct 7 they tried to concoct a story about Hamas doing the same. Israel acts extrajuducially even all over the world, assassinating people in other countries, kidnapping them and so on. Also don't forget USS Liberty which they never had to answer for, as the US President said, "I don't care about a few dead sailors, I'm not going to risk our relationship with Israel." He had ordered back the planes coming to defend Liberty. The surviving US sailors were warned if they ever spoke about it they would land in prison.
& my opinion is they´re filthy rag head murdering shit .
come to Germany & see how nice these rag heads are
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& my opinion is they´re filthy rag head murdering shit .
come to Germany & see how nice these rag heads are
Im sure Van wouldnt mind housing some Hamas members at some point
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Im sure Van wouldnt mind housing some Hamas members at some point
no idea where he lives but his opinions are just naive
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Deliberate mix up by hamas terrorists. Hope they will be vapourised for what they have done. Palestinians, like north africans, mess up every place and country they go to.
Ever wondered why no arab nation wants them?
Gaza strip belongs to Israel, all the criminals and terrorists living there should be moved to the Sinai. Plenty of space there. Terrorism should never pay off. That message should be heard loud and clear in Iran.
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Deliberate mix up by hamas terrorists. Hope they will be vapourised for what they have done. Palestinians, like north africans, mess up every place and country they go to.
Ever wondered why no arab nation wants them?
Gaza strip belongs to Israel, all the criminals and terrorists living there should be moved to the Sinai. Plenty of space there. Terrorism should never pay off. That message should be heard loud and clear in Iran.
almost every country in Africa has a civil war going on, its way worse than Ukraine and Gaza combined
No one gives a fuck though
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almost every country in Africa has a civil war going on, its way worse than Ukraine and Gaza combined
No one gives a fuck though
let them kill each other .. the Elite want a cull they don´t want to stop it.
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Why is this a big deal? Shit man they have been dead for months, I’d imagine highly decomposed, so it would be easy to give the wrong body wouldn’t it?
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Why is this a big deal? Shit man they have been dead for months, I’d imagine highly decomposed, so it would be easy to give the wrong body wouldn’t it?
how would you feel if they mixed up your wifes remains with a muzzie?
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how would you feel if they mixed up your wifes remains with a muzzie?
I suspect his wife gets regularly rag head DNA :-X
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Netanyahu needs to keep leveling to exterminate Hamas vermin
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how would you feel if they mixed up your wifes remains with a muzzie?
I’d be pissed/sad or whatever I’m just saying it would be easy I guess to mix up bodies that had been decomposing for a year.
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My read is very different from the Israeli one, although I don't have intimate knowledge obviously. There's zero interest for Hamas to release the wrong body, they aren't stupid enough to think the identity isn't completely verified by the Israelis. My bet it was a mixup by Hamas just like they claim...
Neither Hamas nor Israel has proven their claims of how they died. My bet again is that the Hamas story is the right one. Zero interest in killing the hostages, they are worth everything to them now. Three freed Thai citizens arrived in Thailand just now and they say they were treated well, pita bread and cheese 6 days and then one day had meat, probably ate better than the captors - they are Hama's lifeline and extremely valuable. The Thai's were were and are Israel supporters working their manual labor jobs for years. Previous hostages were released emaciated but I bet the captors simply didn't have more food to give. At the same time Israel released Palestinian prisoners on stretchers and emaciated and probably tortured and fucked in the ass, that's the MO and condoned there.
I'm not a supporter of Mohammedans but you would have to be an idiot to believe anything Israel says. The official Mossad motto is "by deception wage war."
Who disagrees? :D
You speak truth.
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no idea where he lives but his opinions are just naive
What about it is naive? I'm in Sweden and Islamists are a big problem here, everyone knows that. They don't belong here. But I can see the other side as well. Jews are the terrorists there, they are occupiers, the state of Israel was established through a crime, 700K Palestinians were expelled through terror from their ancient homeland. I don't want to house Palestinians or Hamas in my house, of course not, but as I've said a hundred times Jews are the reason the muslims are in the west in the first place! Jews may hate them there but they hate whites the most, who can argue that? Jews champion blacks and every minority in the US too, all to fuck with white homogeneity. And as I said above, the coddling with Muslims in the west is because Jews set the path with "hate crime" legislation.
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Netanyahu needs to keep leveling to exterminate Hamas vermin
That will never happen. Israel needs the war to continue in order to continue leeching $$$ off the US.
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That will never happen. Israel needs the war to continue in order to continue leeching $$$ off the US.
Netanyahu has to be eager to keep it going because without the war they can have an election and his approval rating is in the toilet.
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What about it is naive? I'm in Sweden and Islamists are a big problem here, everyone knows that. They don't belong here. But I can see the other side as well. Jews are the terrorists there, they are occupiers, the state of Israel was established through a crime, 700K Palestinians were expelled through terror from their ancient homeland. I don't want to house Palestinians or Hamas in my house, of course not, but as I've said a hundred times Jews are the reason the muslims are in the west in the first place! Jews may hate them there but they hate whites the most, who can argue that? Jews champion blacks and every minority in the US too, all to fuck with white homogeneity. And as I said above, the coddling with Muslims in the west is because Jews set the path with "hate crime" legislation.
No. The vast majority left willingly, expecting the invading Arab armies to push the Jews into the Med. Arab media - press and radio - exhorted them to go to areas abutting Israel and wait for the "inevitable" genocide. Former Syrian Prime Minister Khalid al-Azm wrote about the Arab's culpubility in his memoir.
There were no Palestinians (as an Arab ethnic group) until Arafat's proclamation in 1964. cleverly making the refugee situation no longer an Arab problem.
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That will never happen. Israel needs the war to continue in order to continue leeching $$$ off the US.
This would never have happened if it wasn’t for Biden sending billions to Iran (a terrorist state) that funded Hamas.
https://x.com/alphafox78/status/1710836224359805172?s=46
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This would never have happened if it wasn’t for Biden sending billions to Iran (a terrorist state) that funded Hamas.
https://x.com/alphafox78/status/1710836224359805172?s=46
Incorrect. This conflict has been going on forever. Decades. If Israel wanted to, they could wipe them out at any time. Instead they just drag it out year by year so they can continue to keep their mouth firmly on the US tit.
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Netanyahu has to be eager to keep it going because without the war they can have an election and his approval rating is in the toilet.
This is true too.
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how would you feel if they mixed up your wifes remains with a muzzie?
What’s a “muzzie”? ???
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What’s a “muzzie”? ???
a raghead
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Incorrect. This conflict has been going on forever. Decades. If Israel wanted to, they could wipe them out at any time. Instead they just drag it out year by year so they can continue to keep their mouth firmly on the US tit.
On October 7 with no warning, no provocation kids at a concert were massacred. We know this has been going on forever….but an attack without provocation was the last straw. Level it
Biden Admin Raised Concerns Palestinian Aid Would Boost Hamas. It Went Ahead With Aid Anyway.
Internal docs show Biden admin knew there was a 'high risk' Hamas would benefit from U.S. aid
The Biden administration pushed through plans to distribute hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer aid to the Palestinians despite internal assessments that those plans could boost the Iran-backed terrorist group Hamas, according to internal documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.
State Department officials in 2021 outlined the concerns in private communications, asking the Treasury Department to exempt them from laws that bar the U.S. government from injecting taxpayer aid into territories controlled by Palestinian terror groups. The Biden administration needed this authorization in order to move forward with its plans to unfreeze more than $360 million in U.S. funds for the Palestinian Authority that were cut off during the Trump administration due to the authority's support for terrorists.
"We assess there is a high risk Hamas could potentially derive indirect, unintentional benefit from U.S. assistance to Gaza. There is less but still some risk U.S. assistance would benefit other designated groups," the State Department wrote in a draft sanctions exemption request circulated internally in March 2021, shortly after Biden took office. "Notwithstanding this risk, State believes it is in our national security interest to provide assistance in the West Bank and Gaza to support the foreign policy objectives."
The documents—obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the watchdog group Protect the Public’s Trust—show the Biden administration was privately worried its efforts to restart Palestinian aid could benefit Hamas and other terror factions operating in the Gaza Strip. As officials publicly provided assurances to Congress and the press that this aid would be doled out "consistent with U.S. law," the State Department was scrambling to secure a sanctions exemption that would let it skirt anti-terrorism laws.
The State Department claimed it needed broad authorities to conduct work in the West Bank and Gaza Strip "that would otherwise be prohibited by the Global Terrorist Sanctions Regulations and the Foreign Terrorist Organization Sanctions Regulations," according to a draft version of the request.
"Such authorization would enable activities, including assistance activities, that are critical to support the administration's efforts to advance prosperity, security, and freedom for both Israelis and Palestinians and to advance and preserve the prospects of a negotiated solution in which Israel lives in peace and security alongside a viable Palestinian state," according to the draft request.
The previously unknown draft request adds credibility to warnings from Republicans at the time that aid would bolster terror groups. In April 2021, 18 Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas) sent a letter to the administration calling for Palestinian aid to be halted until measures could be put in place to prevent it from benefiting terrorists.
The internal documents obtained by the Free Beacon include the draft of the exemption request as well as internal emails discussing the need for the Treasury Department to grant it. One email, sent to over a dozen State Department employees, said it was urgently needed to push the Biden administration’s "foreign policy objectives," which included an immediate resumption of funding to the Palestinian government.
State Department officials said they did not specify what programs or activities they intended to fund if exempted from counterterrorism laws due to the need for "broad flexibility." Instead, they would only provide the Treasury Department with "illustrative examples" including a list of assistance projects totaling over $200 million, according to one of the emails.
The State Department also asked for the exemption to be unclassified, "so relevant U.S. government agencies can share a copy with partners," such as other governments and nonprofits.
State Department officials did not immediately return a request for comment on whether its assessment about the risk of U.S. aid bolstering Hamas was ultimately conveyed to the Treasury Department, or if the reference was deleted before the request was sent. The Treasury Department declined to comment on the matter, citing a policy of not discussing exemptions that may have been granted.
The administration ultimately moved forward with its plans to restart Palestinian aid, just months after the State Department’s internal wrangling over the issue.
One U.S. official familiar with the matter told the Free Beacon that the State Department's early assessment of the risks of restarting aid should have given the Biden administration pause.
"The fact that there was a high risk that Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization, would benefit from U.S. assistance should have been enough to at least give the administration some pause in resuming aid, if not keep it from restarting it altogether," said the official, who would only discuss the matter on background.
As the administration began pumping hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars into the Palestinian government’s coffers, Republicans in Congress claimed the funding ran afoul of additional U.S. laws as well.
Under the Taylor Force Act, a bipartisan 2018 law, the United States is barred from awarding funds to the Palestinian government until it stops paying salaries to imprisoned terrorists and their families, a policy known as "pay to slay."
The State Department said in a non-public 2022 report to Congress that the Palestinian government "continued payments to Palestinian prisoners who had committed acts of terrorism, as well as the families of so-called ‘martyrs’ who died while committing acts of terrorism."
Michael Chamberlain, director of Protect the Public's Trust, which sued the administration for stonewalling its FOIA request, said the latest cache of internal State Department documents indicate the administration was aware its funding efforts could violate the law.
The Taylor Force Act was a bipartisan effort to prevent American taxpayer dollars from funding terrorists and rewarding terrorism," Chamberlain said. "But here it appears State Department officials were trying to get around the law’s restrictions and send resources in a manner that even they thought was likely to result in funds ending up in the hands of a group designated as a terrorist organization."
The Biden administration, he added, "talks a good game about respecting the rule of law and being the most ethical administration in history. But too often it is willing to ignore those ideals to advance a policy objective—even when that objective may conflict with the law."
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-admin-raised-concerns-palestinian-aid-would-boost-hamas-it-went-ahead-with-aid-anyway/
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On October 7 with no warning, no provocation kids at a concert were massacred. We know this has been going on forever….but an attack without provocation was the last straw. Level it
Biden Admin Raised Concerns Palestinian Aid Would Boost Hamas. It Went Ahead With Aid Anyway.
Internal docs show Biden admin knew there was a 'high risk' Hamas would benefit from U.S. aid
The Biden administration pushed through plans to distribute hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer aid to the Palestinians despite internal assessments that those plans could boost the Iran-backed terrorist group Hamas, according to internal documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.
State Department officials in 2021 outlined the concerns in private communications, asking the Treasury Department to exempt them from laws that bar the U.S. government from injecting taxpayer aid into territories controlled by Palestinian terror groups. The Biden administration needed this authorization in order to move forward with its plans to unfreeze more than $360 million in U.S. funds for the Palestinian Authority that were cut off during the Trump administration due to the authority's support for terrorists.
"We assess there is a high risk Hamas could potentially derive indirect, unintentional benefit from U.S. assistance to Gaza. There is less but still some risk U.S. assistance would benefit other designated groups," the State Department wrote in a draft sanctions exemption request circulated internally in March 2021, shortly after Biden took office. "Notwithstanding this risk, State believes it is in our national security interest to provide assistance in the West Bank and Gaza to support the foreign policy objectives."
The documents—obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the watchdog group Protect the Public’s Trust—show the Biden administration was privately worried its efforts to restart Palestinian aid could benefit Hamas and other terror factions operating in the Gaza Strip. As officials publicly provided assurances to Congress and the press that this aid would be doled out "consistent with U.S. law," the State Department was scrambling to secure a sanctions exemption that would let it skirt anti-terrorism laws.
The State Department claimed it needed broad authorities to conduct work in the West Bank and Gaza Strip "that would otherwise be prohibited by the Global Terrorist Sanctions Regulations and the Foreign Terrorist Organization Sanctions Regulations," according to a draft version of the request.
"Such authorization would enable activities, including assistance activities, that are critical to support the administration's efforts to advance prosperity, security, and freedom for both Israelis and Palestinians and to advance and preserve the prospects of a negotiated solution in which Israel lives in peace and security alongside a viable Palestinian state," according to the draft request.
The previously unknown draft request adds credibility to warnings from Republicans at the time that aid would bolster terror groups. In April 2021, 18 Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas) sent a letter to the administration calling for Palestinian aid to be halted until measures could be put in place to prevent it from benefiting terrorists.
The internal documents obtained by the Free Beacon include the draft of the exemption request as well as internal emails discussing the need for the Treasury Department to grant it. One email, sent to over a dozen State Department employees, said it was urgently needed to push the Biden administration’s "foreign policy objectives," which included an immediate resumption of funding to the Palestinian government.
State Department officials said they did not specify what programs or activities they intended to fund if exempted from counterterrorism laws due to the need for "broad flexibility." Instead, they would only provide the Treasury Department with "illustrative examples" including a list of assistance projects totaling over $200 million, according to one of the emails.
The State Department also asked for the exemption to be unclassified, "so relevant U.S. government agencies can share a copy with partners," such as other governments and nonprofits.
State Department officials did not immediately return a request for comment on whether its assessment about the risk of U.S. aid bolstering Hamas was ultimately conveyed to the Treasury Department, or if the reference was deleted before the request was sent. The Treasury Department declined to comment on the matter, citing a policy of not discussing exemptions that may have been granted.
The administration ultimately moved forward with its plans to restart Palestinian aid, just months after the State Department’s internal wrangling over the issue.
One U.S. official familiar with the matter told the Free Beacon that the State Department's early assessment of the risks of restarting aid should have given the Biden administration pause.
"The fact that there was a high risk that Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization, would benefit from U.S. assistance should have been enough to at least give the administration some pause in resuming aid, if not keep it from restarting it altogether," said the official, who would only discuss the matter on background.
As the administration began pumping hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars into the Palestinian government’s coffers, Republicans in Congress claimed the funding ran afoul of additional U.S. laws as well.
Under the Taylor Force Act, a bipartisan 2018 law, the United States is barred from awarding funds to the Palestinian government until it stops paying salaries to imprisoned terrorists and their families, a policy known as "pay to slay."
The State Department said in a non-public 2022 report to Congress that the Palestinian government "continued payments to Palestinian prisoners who had committed acts of terrorism, as well as the families of so-called ‘martyrs’ who died while committing acts of terrorism."
Michael Chamberlain, director of Protect the Public's Trust, which sued the administration for stonewalling its FOIA request, said the latest cache of internal State Department documents indicate the administration was aware its funding efforts could violate the law.
The Taylor Force Act was a bipartisan effort to prevent American taxpayer dollars from funding terrorists and rewarding terrorism," Chamberlain said. "But here it appears State Department officials were trying to get around the law’s restrictions and send resources in a manner that even they thought was likely to result in funds ending up in the hands of a group designated as a terrorist organization."
The Biden administration, he added, "talks a good game about respecting the rule of law and being the most ethical administration in history. But too often it is willing to ignore those ideals to advance a policy objective—even when that objective may conflict with the law."
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-admin-raised-concerns-palestinian-aid-would-boost-hamas-it-went-ahead-with-aid-anyway/
90% of the Palestinian people are pro Hamas
Fucks sake there are have been thousands on the streets of London every weekend for the last two years carrying Hamas placards.
Turn up with a Union Jack and the police arrest you
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90% of the Palestinian people are pro Hamas
Fucks sake there are have been thousands on the streets of London every weekend for the last two years carrying Hamas placards.
Turn up with a Union Jack and the police arrest you
Last year our Colleges and Universities were taken over by Palestinians, let’s be real, like you said, pro Hamas supporters attacking Jews in campuses, taking over admin buildings, yelling “Intifada”
https://x.com/emilykschrader/status/1784381840779808943?s=46
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Palestinians belong to another region - they're pretty much the cannon fodder that other Arab nations put there to "sting" Israel. All those sand people are using the West for their own means and succeeding. I remember visiting a "Zionist meeting" when the hostage thing was recent and the speaker dared to say that we as a "country of guilt" were better supportive to bringing back the refugees. These nosebergs are quite the demanding sniffers it seems. :D
European people have to be aware that the the conflict of the middle East has been artificially transplanted into the heart of Europe.
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On October 7 with no warning, no provocation kids at a concert were massacred. We know this has been going on forever….but an attack without provocation was the last straw. Level it
Biden Admin Raised Concerns Palestinian Aid Would Boost Hamas. It Went Ahead With Aid Anyway.
Internal docs show Biden admin knew there was a 'high risk' Hamas would benefit from U.S. aid
The Biden administration pushed through plans to distribute hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer aid to the Palestinians despite internal assessments that those plans could boost the Iran-backed terrorist group Hamas, according to internal documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.
State Department officials in 2021 outlined the concerns in private communications, asking the Treasury Department to exempt them from laws that bar the U.S. government from injecting taxpayer aid into territories controlled by Palestinian terror groups. The Biden administration needed this authorization in order to move forward with its plans to unfreeze more than $360 million in U.S. funds for the Palestinian Authority that were cut off during the Trump administration due to the authority's support for terrorists.
"We assess there is a high risk Hamas could potentially derive indirect, unintentional benefit from U.S. assistance to Gaza. There is less but still some risk U.S. assistance would benefit other designated groups," the State Department wrote in a draft sanctions exemption request circulated internally in March 2021, shortly after Biden took office. "Notwithstanding this risk, State believes it is in our national security interest to provide assistance in the West Bank and Gaza to support the foreign policy objectives."
The documents—obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the watchdog group Protect the Public’s Trust—show the Biden administration was privately worried its efforts to restart Palestinian aid could benefit Hamas and other terror factions operating in the Gaza Strip. As officials publicly provided assurances to Congress and the press that this aid would be doled out "consistent with U.S. law," the State Department was scrambling to secure a sanctions exemption that would let it skirt anti-terrorism laws.
The State Department claimed it needed broad authorities to conduct work in the West Bank and Gaza Strip "that would otherwise be prohibited by the Global Terrorist Sanctions Regulations and the Foreign Terrorist Organization Sanctions Regulations," according to a draft version of the request.
"Such authorization would enable activities, including assistance activities, that are critical to support the administration's efforts to advance prosperity, security, and freedom for both Israelis and Palestinians and to advance and preserve the prospects of a negotiated solution in which Israel lives in peace and security alongside a viable Palestinian state," according to the draft request.
The previously unknown draft request adds credibility to warnings from Republicans at the time that aid would bolster terror groups. In April 2021, 18 Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas) sent a letter to the administration calling for Palestinian aid to be halted until measures could be put in place to prevent it from benefiting terrorists.
The internal documents obtained by the Free Beacon include the draft of the exemption request as well as internal emails discussing the need for the Treasury Department to grant it. One email, sent to over a dozen State Department employees, said it was urgently needed to push the Biden administration’s "foreign policy objectives," which included an immediate resumption of funding to the Palestinian government.
State Department officials said they did not specify what programs or activities they intended to fund if exempted from counterterrorism laws due to the need for "broad flexibility." Instead, they would only provide the Treasury Department with "illustrative examples" including a list of assistance projects totaling over $200 million, according to one of the emails.
The State Department also asked for the exemption to be unclassified, "so relevant U.S. government agencies can share a copy with partners," such as other governments and nonprofits.
State Department officials did not immediately return a request for comment on whether its assessment about the risk of U.S. aid bolstering Hamas was ultimately conveyed to the Treasury Department, or if the reference was deleted before the request was sent. The Treasury Department declined to comment on the matter, citing a policy of not discussing exemptions that may have been granted.
The administration ultimately moved forward with its plans to restart Palestinian aid, just months after the State Department’s internal wrangling over the issue.
One U.S. official familiar with the matter told the Free Beacon that the State Department's early assessment of the risks of restarting aid should have given the Biden administration pause.
"The fact that there was a high risk that Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization, would benefit from U.S. assistance should have been enough to at least give the administration some pause in resuming aid, if not keep it from restarting it altogether," said the official, who would only discuss the matter on background.
As the administration began pumping hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars into the Palestinian government’s coffers, Republicans in Congress claimed the funding ran afoul of additional U.S. laws as well.
Under the Taylor Force Act, a bipartisan 2018 law, the United States is barred from awarding funds to the Palestinian government until it stops paying salaries to imprisoned terrorists and their families, a policy known as "pay to slay."
The State Department said in a non-public 2022 report to Congress that the Palestinian government "continued payments to Palestinian prisoners who had committed acts of terrorism, as well as the families of so-called ‘martyrs’ who died while committing acts of terrorism."
Michael Chamberlain, director of Protect the Public's Trust, which sued the administration for stonewalling its FOIA request, said the latest cache of internal State Department documents indicate the administration was aware its funding efforts could violate the law.
The Taylor Force Act was a bipartisan effort to prevent American taxpayer dollars from funding terrorists and rewarding terrorism," Chamberlain said. "But here it appears State Department officials were trying to get around the law’s restrictions and send resources in a manner that even they thought was likely to result in funds ending up in the hands of a group designated as a terrorist organization."
The Biden administration, he added, "talks a good game about respecting the rule of law and being the most ethical administration in history. But too often it is willing to ignore those ideals to advance a policy objective—even when that objective may conflict with the law."
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-admin-raised-concerns-palestinian-aid-would-boost-hamas-it-went-ahead-with-aid-anyway/
Lol, no warning.
You do know they knew about it and let is slide.
Bibi’s approval rating is in the toilet. Days if not weeks before. They were protesting outside his house for his resignation.
The longer the war continues. The better it helps him to stay in power.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-obtained-ignored-hamas-document-laying-out-oct-7-attack-plan-report-alleges/amp/
Regardless, there’s no need for the Usa to be sending billions and billions of dollars annually without question to Israel. What is the exact point? They keep saying they are our greatest ally. Aly for what. Let’s the Jews and Arabs figure it out. We don’t need them.
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Regardless, there’s no need for the Usa to be sending billions and billions of dollars annually without question to Israel. What is the exact point? They keep saying they are our greatest ally. Aly for what. Let’s the Jews and Arabs figure it out. We don’t need them.
Regardless of what side anyone is on, is not the Israel lobby disturbing? Some congress person a while back said every Rep member in congress has a personal assigned AIPAC handler and he said he thought Dems were the same. Of course the matter of fact is that Israel has a special relationship with the US and the law is not applied to them equally, but the special relationship is not written out, unspoken. US law says no dealing with states that have undeclared nuclear weapons but it does not apply to Israel; I've seen it said there's actually some rule Israeli nuclear weapons is forbidden to be mentioned in congress or you go to prison. When nuclear weapons were developed Jews in the US stole lots of top secret data and sold it to the Soviet Union in exchange for them to let Jews immigrate to Israel. Jews of course are the originators of communism and have pushed the much hated Marxist theory, "Frankfurt school" shit, in the US and everywhere else, but "Christian Zionists" and other US philosemites refuse to criticize Jews on this point even though they "hate commies." Anyway, I guess that's why they had no problem collaborating with and sending nuclear technology to communist states. The stealing and selling of nuclear technology to enemy states are high crimes, or whatever it's called lol, and if I recall correctly one couple was executed for it and that one guy was doing life until Trump freed him and he was received at the airport in Israel by Netanyahu as a hero. The guy had apparently stolen a huge volume detailing all secret ways US communicated internationally and sold it to enemy states, I think it ended up in the Soviet Union too but I'm not positive on that detail. Intelligence agencies have always said openly that Israel is the main spy in the US and I recall a few years ago for example they found lots of listening devices in Washington DC used to spy on politicians and CIA said Israel was behind it. Immediately after 9/11 I think maybe a hundred Israeli spies were whisked up and quickly sent to Israel; the "dancing Israelis" were among them, they had a "moving company" which was just a front for spying. This is not conspiracy theory, I think this has been officially acknowledged. I guess my point is that the Israel lobby and Zionism is so entrenched and owns the political process so deeply I doubt the US will stop sending money and unconditional support anytime soon. Pelosi infamously said if everything crumbled in the US the one thing that would survive is the unconditional support for Israel. Analysts I watch debate who is the dog and who is the tail wagging the dog, Israel or the US, Trump or Netanyahu, who is calling the shots in the US and Israel? Is there really even a difference between the US and Israel?:D
ADL is another spying organization. A long time ago it was revealed they kept files on tens of thousands of Americans illegally and bribed cops to sell them their files on Americans. That Greenblatt fella doesn't look like a very sympathetic figure to me.
I'm sorry my posts are a bit disorganized, as I write I keep thinking of new things to insert and they may end up in the wrong places :-\
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On October 7 with no warning, no provocation kids at a concert were massacred. We know this has been going on forever….but an attack without provocation was the last straw. Level it
Biden Admin Raised Concerns Palestinian Aid Would Boost Hamas. It Went Ahead With Aid Anyway.
Internal docs show Biden admin knew there was a 'high risk' Hamas would benefit from U.S. aid
The Biden administration pushed through plans to distribute hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer aid to the Palestinians despite internal assessments that those plans could boost the Iran-backed terrorist group Hamas, according to internal documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.
State Department officials in 2021 outlined the concerns in private communications, asking the Treasury Department to exempt them from laws that bar the U.S. government from injecting taxpayer aid into territories controlled by Palestinian terror groups. The Biden administration needed this authorization in order to move forward with its plans to unfreeze more than $360 million in U.S. funds for the Palestinian Authority that were cut off during the Trump administration due to the authority's support for terrorists.
"We assess there is a high risk Hamas could potentially derive indirect, unintentional benefit from U.S. assistance to Gaza. There is less but still some risk U.S. assistance would benefit other designated groups," the State Department wrote in a draft sanctions exemption request circulated internally in March 2021, shortly after Biden took office. "Notwithstanding this risk, State believes it is in our national security interest to provide assistance in the West Bank and Gaza to support the foreign policy objectives."
The documents—obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the watchdog group Protect the Public’s Trust—show the Biden administration was privately worried its efforts to restart Palestinian aid could benefit Hamas and other terror factions operating in the Gaza Strip. As officials publicly provided assurances to Congress and the press that this aid would be doled out "consistent with U.S. law," the State Department was scrambling to secure a sanctions exemption that would let it skirt anti-terrorism laws.
The State Department claimed it needed broad authorities to conduct work in the West Bank and Gaza Strip "that would otherwise be prohibited by the Global Terrorist Sanctions Regulations and the Foreign Terrorist Organization Sanctions Regulations," according to a draft version of the request.
"Such authorization would enable activities, including assistance activities, that are critical to support the administration's efforts to advance prosperity, security, and freedom for both Israelis and Palestinians and to advance and preserve the prospects of a negotiated solution in which Israel lives in peace and security alongside a viable Palestinian state," according to the draft request.
The previously unknown draft request adds credibility to warnings from Republicans at the time that aid would bolster terror groups. In April 2021, 18 Republicans led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas) sent a letter to the administration calling for Palestinian aid to be halted until measures could be put in place to prevent it from benefiting terrorists.
The internal documents obtained by the Free Beacon include the draft of the exemption request as well as internal emails discussing the need for the Treasury Department to grant it. One email, sent to over a dozen State Department employees, said it was urgently needed to push the Biden administration’s "foreign policy objectives," which included an immediate resumption of funding to the Palestinian government.
State Department officials said they did not specify what programs or activities they intended to fund if exempted from counterterrorism laws due to the need for "broad flexibility." Instead, they would only provide the Treasury Department with "illustrative examples" including a list of assistance projects totaling over $200 million, according to one of the emails.
The State Department also asked for the exemption to be unclassified, "so relevant U.S. government agencies can share a copy with partners," such as other governments and nonprofits.
State Department officials did not immediately return a request for comment on whether its assessment about the risk of U.S. aid bolstering Hamas was ultimately conveyed to the Treasury Department, or if the reference was deleted before the request was sent. The Treasury Department declined to comment on the matter, citing a policy of not discussing exemptions that may have been granted.
The administration ultimately moved forward with its plans to restart Palestinian aid, just months after the State Department’s internal wrangling over the issue.
One U.S. official familiar with the matter told the Free Beacon that the State Department's early assessment of the risks of restarting aid should have given the Biden administration pause.
"The fact that there was a high risk that Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization, would benefit from U.S. assistance should have been enough to at least give the administration some pause in resuming aid, if not keep it from restarting it altogether," said the official, who would only discuss the matter on background.
As the administration began pumping hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars into the Palestinian government’s coffers, Republicans in Congress claimed the funding ran afoul of additional U.S. laws as well.
Under the Taylor Force Act, a bipartisan 2018 law, the United States is barred from awarding funds to the Palestinian government until it stops paying salaries to imprisoned terrorists and their families, a policy known as "pay to slay."
The State Department said in a non-public 2022 report to Congress that the Palestinian government "continued payments to Palestinian prisoners who had committed acts of terrorism, as well as the families of so-called ‘martyrs’ who died while committing acts of terrorism."
Michael Chamberlain, director of Protect the Public's Trust, which sued the administration for stonewalling its FOIA request, said the latest cache of internal State Department documents indicate the administration was aware its funding efforts could violate the law.
The Taylor Force Act was a bipartisan effort to prevent American taxpayer dollars from funding terrorists and rewarding terrorism," Chamberlain said. "But here it appears State Department officials were trying to get around the law’s restrictions and send resources in a manner that even they thought was likely to result in funds ending up in the hands of a group designated as a terrorist organization."
The Biden administration, he added, "talks a good game about respecting the rule of law and being the most ethical administration in history. But too often it is willing to ignore those ideals to advance a policy objective—even when that objective may conflict with the law."
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-admin-raised-concerns-palestinian-aid-would-boost-hamas-it-went-ahead-with-aid-anyway/
They have been launching rockets over the border for decades. Pretty sure there was no warning or no provocation to those instances either. You can't see the big picture because you are too busy trying to make it all political for your narrow minded basis. They launched attacks under Trump. They launched attacks under Obama. Under Bush Jr. Under Clinton. Etc.. and they will keep doing so no matter who is the sitting POTUS.
Israel is willing to accept collateral damage in return for the $$$ to keep flowing from the US.
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Regardless of what side anyone is on, is not the Israel lobby disturbing? Some congress person a while back said every Rep member in congress has a personal assigned AIPAC handler and he said he thought Dems were the same. Of course the matter of fact is that Israel has a special relationship with the US and the law is not applied to them equally, but the special relationship is not written out, unspoken. US law says no dealing with states that have undeclared nuclear weapons but it does not apply to Israel; I've seen it said there's actually some rule Israeli nuclear weapons is forbidden to be mentioned in congress or you go to prison. When nuclear weapons were developed Jews in the US stole lots of top secret data and sold it to the Soviet Union in exchange for them to let Jews immigrate to Israel. Jews of course are the originators of communism and have pushed the much hated Marxist theory, "Frankfurt school" shit, in the US and everywhere else, but "Christian Zionists" and other US philosemites refuse to criticize Jews on this point even though they "hate commies." Anyway, I guess that's why they had no problem collaborating with and sending nuclear technology to communist states. The stealing and selling of nuclear technology to enemy states are high crimes, or whatever it's called lol, and if I recall correctly one couple was executed for it and that one guy was doing life until Trump freed him and he was received at the airport in Israel by Netanyahu as a hero. The guy had apparently stolen a huge volume detailing all secret ways US communicated internationally and sold it to enemy states, I think it ended up in the Soviet Union too but I'm not positive on that detail. Intelligence agencies have always said openly that Israel is the main spy in the US and I recall a few years ago for example they found lots of listening devices in Washington DC used to spy on politicians and CIA said Israel was behind it. Immediately after 9/11 I think maybe a hundred Israeli spies were whisked up and quickly sent to Israel; the "dancing Israelis" were among them, they had a "moving company" which was just a front for spying. This is not conspiracy theory, I think this has been officially acknowledged. I guess my point is that the Israel lobby and Zionism is so entrenched and owns the political process so deeply I doubt the US will stop sending money and unconditional support anytime soon. Pelosi infamously said if everything crumbled in the US the one thing that would survive is the unconditional support for Israel. Analysts I watch debate who is the dog and who is the tail wagging the dog, Israel or the US, Trump or Netanyahu, who is calling the shots in the US and Israel? Is there really even a difference between the US and Israel?:D
ADL is another spying organization. A long time ago it was revealed they kept files on tens of thousands of Americans illegally and bribed cops to sell them their files on Americans. That Greenblatt fella doesn't look like a very sympathetic figure to me.
I'm sorry my posts are a bit disorganized, as I write I keep thinking of new things to insert and they may end up in the wrong places :-\
Yes, it is disturbing. It is the only lobby you can't criticize in Washington.