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Title: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2025, 07:24:30 AM
I agree but Leg press is a close 2nd

Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: joswift on March 16, 2025, 11:20:44 AM
squats with moderate weight as a core excercise

Putting huge poundages on your shoulders is just going to cause injury

Your legs are way stronger than your low back
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: robcguns on March 16, 2025, 11:32:13 AM
The only problem with the leg press for me is crazy blood pressure. Squats don’t do that to me and I don’t go heavy on squats I prefer to go as low as possible and higher reps.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Royalty on March 16, 2025, 11:35:00 AM
Barbell front squats might be better that regular squats.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2025, 12:08:27 PM
squats with moderate weight as a core excercise

Putting huge poundages on your shoulders is just going to cause injury

Your legs are way stronger than your low back
Yes I use moderate weights & higher reps, regardless if I use leg press or squats higher reps blow my legs up.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 16, 2025, 12:18:45 PM
squats with moderate weight as a core excercise

Putting huge poundages on your shoulders is just going to cause injury

Your legs are way stronger than your low back
Do box squats with huge weights like powerlifters do. Hundreds of pounds crushing your spine with no place to go because of the box leads to a strong healthy back.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: IroNat on March 16, 2025, 01:22:35 PM
Do box squats with huge weights like powerlifters do. Hundreds of pounds crushing your spine with no place to go because of the box leads to a strong healthy back.

Truth.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: joswift on March 16, 2025, 01:27:29 PM
Do box squats with huge weights like powerlifters do. Hundreds of pounds crushing your spine with no place to go because of the box leads to a strong healthy back.

Coach loves those, he gets high scool kids doing them

At least in a squat all your low back and hip flexors are contracted supporting your spine

Imagine sitting down so your whole core relaxes.....what could possibly go wrong
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Tennisballz on March 16, 2025, 02:38:05 PM
Coach loves those, he gets high scool kids doing them

At least in a squat all your low back and hip flexors are contracted supporting your spine

Imagine sitting down so your whole core relaxes.....what could possibly go wrong
But Jason blaha does them…..how could they be bad for you?!  He’s an internationally renowned strength coach with one of the best physiques out there!
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 16, 2025, 04:00:30 PM
Angled leg press doesn't suit me at all, I go down 4 inches and that's where my range of motion stops, I wish I could do them deep enough to be useful, I think it's a machine that isn't so mentally stressful while still stimulating the quads. Different horisontal presses suit me fine. Regular squats are fine, except I can't quite break parallel, which you don't necessarily have to do to build quads, but just saying. Lower back is fine as far as squats, I can do tons of weight on good mornings, much more than on squats. Squats on smith machine solves the depth problem. I have loved box squats as a strength building move for deadlifts or just lower body strength period. No issue for the lower back ever, maybe because my lower back is so relatively strong. I still maintain that the reason many injure or tweak their lower backs on squats is because they don't really strengthen their lower backs in their routine, maybe abs as well, but I'm biased.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: BigRo on March 16, 2025, 04:12:57 PM
Squats are supreme.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Wiggs on March 16, 2025, 04:36:28 PM
Arthur seems like he was a very serious man. As serious as Vince Gironda.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: illuminati on March 16, 2025, 04:49:57 PM
squats with moderate weight as a core excercise

Putting huge poundages on your shoulders is just going to cause injury

Your legs are way stronger than your low back


I must be one of the fortunate ones.
Squatting over 700lbs & doing half / partials with up to 900lbs

No lower back / hip or knee problem's.
Poundages reducing with advancing age 🤬🤬🤬

 ;D
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Skeletor on March 16, 2025, 04:58:18 PM
Squats are great, though front squats are my favorite. Never liked smith machine squats or those leverage squat machines.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: njflex on March 16, 2025, 05:04:00 PM
Hack squat
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: illuminati on March 16, 2025, 05:21:28 PM
Squats are great, though front squats are my favorite. Never liked smith machine squats or those leverage squat machines.

Front squats are very good leg builders- you don't see many Olympic weight lifters
With poor quad development- considering they only do low reps.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2025, 11:38:23 PM
Arthur seems like he was a very serious man. As serious as Vince Gironda.
He smoked & drunk whisky...kept crocodiles & always carried a Gun
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 16, 2025, 11:54:53 PM
Watch this interview..he talks about AJ on there. He thinks AJ had connections to the CIA  :D
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Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 17, 2025, 12:30:04 AM
Watch this interview..he talks about AJ on there. He thinks AJ had connections to the CIA  :D
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I have a buddy who sometimes posts here who says Arthur was illuminati and/or freemason and had shot over 100 people dead who had come to watch his wild animals. Drug delusions or... true? :D
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2025, 12:34:38 AM
I have a buddy who sometimes posts here who says Arthur was illuminati and/or freemason and had shot over 100 people dead who had come to watch his wild animals. Drug delusions or... true? :D

No idea  ;D  but I do believe he had connections & Boyer is no idiot so I believe him..
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Phantom Spunker on March 17, 2025, 12:37:19 AM
Even light squats with 60kg are throwing my lower back out these days. For days after, my discs always feel like they're on the verge of 'popping out' again, for lack of a better understanding of what's going on.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 17, 2025, 11:10:06 AM
Even light squats with 60kg are throwing my lower back out these days. For days after, my discs always feel like they're on the verge of 'popping out' again, for lack of a better understanding of what's going on.
Bodyweight squats only or front squats with barbell or kettlebell.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: joswift on March 17, 2025, 11:19:54 AM
Even light squats with 60kg are throwing my lower back out these days. For days after, my discs always feel like they're on the verge of 'popping out' again, for lack of a better understanding of what's going on.

get your quads and hams "bladed", tightness in your legs pulls your low back
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 17, 2025, 03:10:50 PM
I had a spine surgeon tell me that I have no business ever putting a barbell across my shoulders again. I’m an idiot so I do legs every two weeks and don’t generally go above 225 on squats. I’m 6’4 so I’m not built for them. I used to have a strong deadlift but I could puke thinking about pulling that much weight again.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2025, 01:01:14 AM
Bodyweight squats only or front squats with barbell or kettlebell.
Leg extensions SS with Bodyweight squats works well .
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Phantom Spunker on March 18, 2025, 02:49:28 AM
Bodyweight squats only or front squats with barbell or kettlebell.

Kettlebell would probably be good but I'd look a bit gay doing it. Maybe I'll buy one for the house.

get your quads and hams "bladed", tightness in your legs pulls your low back

I've been following your experience with it. Sounds like something I need to try, as I suspect my hamstrings are involved in a lot of this. I also need to just get an MRI done. Keep meaning to arrange it but I'm always away. There's periods where the discs in the lowest lumbar area seem to herniate and it will leave me physically unable to walk at all for a few days. It usually requires a week in bed with muscle relaxants and painkillers when it happens once or twice a year now. Last time, the physio asked to take a photo because the muscles in my back had pulled so much on one side that I was contorted like some retard from a horror film.

Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 18, 2025, 03:03:57 AM
What kind of problems do you get if your quads are relatively tight instead of your hams? Everyone is always stretching their hams, maybe not so much their quads. I never hear, your quads are tight and weak, it's your hams are tight and weak, apparently this asymmetry is epidemic in trainers lol. I know my quads have always been pathetically weak compared to my hams and I've always been stretching my hams as well as training them several times more than the quads, maybe that's very uncommon. I think it was common with the westside lifters (Louie's Simmons training philosophy), they even claimed they used their hams to squat lol, and the proof was in their tiny quads (really).
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 18, 2025, 08:54:23 AM
Leg extensions SS with Bodyweight squats works well .
I workout at home so no leg extensions for me.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2025, 09:13:07 AM
I workout at home so no leg extensions for me.
Then if you can do them i would do a SS of Sissy Squats & step ups
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: mops on March 18, 2025, 07:55:11 PM
Kettlebell would probably be good but I'd look a bit gay doing it. Maybe I'll buy one for the house.

I've been following your experience with it. Sounds like something I need to try, as I suspect my hamstrings are involved in a lot of this. I also need to just get an MRI done. Keep meaning to arrange it but I'm always away. There's periods where the discs in the lowest lumbar area seem to herniate and it will leave me physically unable to walk at all for a few days. It usually requires a week in bed with muscle relaxants and painkillers when it happens once or twice a year now. Last time, the physio asked to take a photo because the muscles in my back had pulled so much on one side that I was contorted like some retard from a horror film.

Spunk, if you have some time to spare, I’d highly recommend reading "Low Back Disorders" by Stuart McGill.

https://vdoc.pub/download/low-back-disorders-55pkthfcetf0

It's a great read, especially these chapters:

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Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Phantom Spunker on March 18, 2025, 10:58:58 PM
Spunk, if you have some time to spare, I’d highly recommend reading "Low Back Disorders" by Stuart McGill.

https://vdoc.pub/download/low-back-disorders-55pkthfcetf0

It's a great read, especially these chapters:

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Thanks, mate. Downloaded it now and will read through it. I'm falling to bits these days so it's time I paid more attention to this stuff.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 19, 2025, 10:06:46 AM
Then if you can do them i would do a SS of Sissy Squats & step ups
Yes, lunges work as well.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2025, 10:11:01 AM
Yes, lunges work as well.
very good but i prefer step ups, hits the same muscles ( for me )
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 19, 2025, 01:30:52 PM
The hindu squats/sissy squats seem pretty good. I saw how Mark Bell was shown how to do them in some video someone linked here, high reps especially for knee problems and for the VMO. I always thought "real" sissy squats were to be done leaning way back with a huge stretch, then it becomes real heavy and you can only do a few reps.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 21, 2025, 12:25:52 AM
The hindu squats/sissy squats seem pretty good. I saw how Mark Bell was shown how to do them in some video someone linked here, high reps especially for knee problems and for the VMO. I always thought "real" sissy squats were to be done leaning way back with a huge stretch, then it becomes real heavy and you can only do a few reps.
The only problem is the boredom from doing high reps.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on March 21, 2025, 12:55:52 AM
The hindu squats/sissy squats seem pretty good. I saw how Mark Bell was shown how to do them in some video someone linked here, high reps especially for knee problems and for the VMO. I always thought "real" sissy squats were to be done leaning way back with a huge stretch, then it becomes real heavy and you can only do a few reps.

That's how I've always done them but people use the Sissy squat bench in gyms
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 22, 2025, 03:57:36 PM
 :)
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 23, 2025, 08:47:50 AM
^^^ No sissy squats for Kaz. I doubt if he could even do them.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: illuminati on March 23, 2025, 10:26:09 AM
^^^ No sissy squats for Kaz. I doubt if he could even do them.

Or he'd want to do them .
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Hulkotron on March 23, 2025, 04:08:19 PM
Been doing some bicycle-squats lately (nh).
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on April 01, 2025, 12:12:21 AM
This will sort out any pussy boys  :D

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Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: BigRo on April 01, 2025, 12:21:23 AM
Thats not you Donny, he has some hair.
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 01, 2025, 12:25:28 AM
This will sort out any pussy boys  :D

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I'm a Finn but I never ice bathed, haven't even done a full cold water plunge in the tub because I'm a pussy like that :D
I have some relatives who did that all winter well into old age. They say it's pretty addicting. Big release of euphoric neurotransmitters :D
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on April 01, 2025, 12:34:13 AM
Thats not you Donny, he has some hair.
;D

I'm a Finn but I never ice bathed, haven't even done a full cold water plunge in the tub because I'm a pussy like that :D
I have some relatives who did that all winter well into old age. They say it's pretty addicting. Big release of euphoric neurotransmitters :D

Honestly thought when he went into the squat he'd go through the ice..
Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 01, 2025, 01:21:31 AM


Honestly thought when he went into the squat he'd go through the ice..

 ;D

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Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: Donny on April 01, 2025, 02:05:09 AM
;D

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Title: Re: The Squat
Post by: rocket on April 01, 2025, 02:52:52 AM
Leg press is a stupid exercise.

Even if you do depth, you can convince yourself you're some sort of goliath powerful c unt and then you go squat and it turns out you can do 3 plates.  ::)

Last resort exercise if you can't squat or so something else.