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Title: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: pamith on March 16, 2025, 08:57:03 PM
I feel Metallica is great but there are other great bands? what's your opinion?
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on March 16, 2025, 10:51:32 PM
Well done on finally starting a decent thread, pepperoni nips. No, I don't think so. I only liked a few of their earlier albums. My vote goes to Slipknot. Iowa would be my favorite album of theirs. It's absolutely brutal (if true). We need Fortress to weigh in.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Mayday on March 16, 2025, 10:54:15 PM

Yes.

Iron Maiden and Pantera also greats.

Metal is heading more towards Death Core and we are seeping guitar melodies back in style and drumming taking on a new level in being more than just keeping beat. Slaughter to Prevail is my favourite metal right now.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Gym Rat on March 17, 2025, 01:03:55 AM
I feel Metallica is great but there are other great bands? what's your opinion?

Couldnt carry Maidens instruments...
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 17, 2025, 01:05:57 AM
Yes.

Iron Maiden and Pantera also greats.

Metal is heading more towards Death Core and we are seeping guitar melodies back in style and drumming taking on a new level in being more than just keeping beat. Slaughter to Prevail is my favourite metal right now.

JFC this "Death Core" sucks balls, so fake in my ears! Though old guys always think only 'their' era was genuine and legit and good :D Perhaps there is good Death Core but I can't make myself search it out, I just put on Burzum Aske if I'm in the mood for something "heavy." Or Death for some quality death metal.

Of course many older fans think Metallica totally went to shit when they cut their hair and stopped drinking and drugging, total sellouts, me included lol. Some think the black album was already a sellout and I used to hear that only the first album was any good with no compromises. I used to think the black album was still good, although if I'm to listen to some Metallica now it's Justice for All and earlier :D 8)
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Raymondo on March 17, 2025, 02:19:25 AM
Well done on finally starting a decent thread, pepperoni nips. No, I don't think so. I only liked a few of their earlier albums. My vote goes to Slipknot. Iowa would be my favorite album of theirs. It's absolutely brutal (if true). We need Fortress to weigh in.

Iowa is a very disturbing album.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Raymondo on March 17, 2025, 02:41:56 AM
I guess this will turn into a Metallica vs Maiden thread, since they are the only serious contenders.

I feel Maiden has been more consistent in the quality of their output (but also a bit more safe). Their albums after 2000 are good if you are a progressive rock fan.

Metallica took more chances with their sound but they rarely paid off. The metal community are not like Madonna fans, they are very conservative, they would never stand for their favourite band reinventing themselves too radically. I personally like Load and Reload while everyone else hates them. S&M 1 is a fantastic record and a very successful experiment. After 2003 they were either shit or embarrassingly mid. St Anger is a pile of shit but this is more due to the production, the lack of polish and the unnecessary length, not the songs. I've read the Lou reed record is shit. The other albums (Death Magnetic etc) are so mid I can hardly remember anything other than a couple of songs. I heard about two minutes from their last record and never played it again. Hetfield, now in his 60s, still goes banging on about his childhood.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: rocket on March 17, 2025, 02:52:03 AM
I personally do not like metallica at all.  That is one metal band that I just cannot get into.  I play their stuff on guitar a fair bit and unlike many, many bands that have weaseled into me liking them by me playing their music, I absolutely still do not like them.  I play master of puppets because it's a downpicking endurance track and that's it.   Does nothing for me.


Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2025, 06:38:27 AM
They are incredible, still play amazing, and have the longevity factor.

Saw them last year and they were awesome.

But the reality is they haven't produced anything epic since 1988.  There some decent stuff, but nothing compared to the first four albums.

Personally, I'll go with Pantera, but completely understand why Metallica is considered the greatest.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: 1Patrick on March 17, 2025, 06:47:55 AM
In 1991 1.6 mil people  in Russia showed up.
They are very popular till this day.

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2025, 08:16:13 AM
Black Sabbath
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2025, 08:49:56 AM
In 1991 1.6 mil people  in Russia showed up.
They are very popular till this day.



Pantera played there and produced the greatest live breakdown in music history.

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: 1Patrick on March 17, 2025, 09:54:27 AM
Pantera played there and produced the greatest live breakdown in music history.


Breakdown was when  DJ 181 in the crowd   stripped down and flexed .
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2025, 10:06:31 AM
Breakdown was when  DJ 181 in the crowd   stripped down and flexed .

Unfortunately I heard he was standing behind a fence pole so nobody saw it.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Kwon on March 17, 2025, 10:22:03 AM
Metallica is Thrash Metal, not Heavy Metal.



Best Heavy Metal-band is Iron Maiden.

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: 1Patrick on March 17, 2025, 10:33:09 AM
Unfortunately I heard he was standing behind a fence pole so nobody saw it.
KGB gave me a wrong info .
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: joswift on March 17, 2025, 10:52:39 AM
not keen on heavy metal
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 17, 2025, 10:58:05 AM
Metallica is Thrash Metal, not Heavy Metal.



Best Heavy Metal-band is Iron Maiden.

Metallica is the best of all metal bands. There is no close 2nd.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Gym Rat on March 17, 2025, 11:29:09 AM
They may be "most popular" that doesnt equal "best".

Musicianship, again, Metallica cant carry maidens road cases...

Vox, Drums, Bass, Guitars, (Kirk might be close to Dave Murray (maybe) but thats where musicianship and writing ends.

Just like Rap (many are more popular) but most have zero talent. Metallica havent put out anything good in ages...
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 17, 2025, 11:31:17 AM
They may be "most popular" that doesnt equal "best".

Musicianship, again, Metallica cant carry maidens road cases...

Vox, Drums, Bass, Guitars, (Kirk might be close to Dave Murray (maybe) but thats where musicianship and writing ends.

Just like Rap (many are more popular) but most have zero talent. Metallica havent put out anything good in ages...
Always the excuse of also rans.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: sway on March 17, 2025, 11:48:45 AM
Who under the age 50 is listening to Iron Maiden? The band has to be in their 70s by now. I grew up on the west coast and no one was into IM. They were always a weird, cartoonish band to everyone I knew growing up. And as an adult I don’t anyone listening to them. Not trying to hate, but I just never saw or knew anyone into them.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2025, 11:49:02 AM
Metallica is the best of all metal bands. There is no close 2nd.

They've done nothing epic since 1988.  You can even see it in the crowd reactions at shows.

Plenty of close seconds.

Plus, they changed from metal to hard rock-ish.

Now for popularity and worldwide fame, sure.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 17, 2025, 11:54:25 AM
I guess this will turn into a Metallica vs Maiden thread, since they are the only serious contenders.

I feel Maiden has been more consistent in the quality of their output (but also a bit more safe). Their albums after 2000 are good if you are a progressive rock fan.

Metallica took more chances with their sound but they rarely paid off. The metal community are not like Madonna fans, they are very conservative, they would never stand for their favourite band reinventing themselves too radically. I personally like Load and Reload while everyone else hates them. S&M 1 is a fantastic record and a very successful experiment. After 2003 they were either shit or embarrassingly mid. St Anger is a pile of shit but this is more due to the production, the lack of polish and the unnecessary length, not the songs. I've read the Lou reed record is shit. The other albums (Death Magnetic etc) are so mid I can hardly remember anything other than a couple of songs. I heard about two minutes from their last record and never played it again. Hetfield, now in his 60s, still goes banging on about his childhood.


Saw both of them at a music festival last year. Metallica put on a great show, although they played the shortest amount just shy of two hours and they were the headliner for their night. Not a maiden fan but they put on a great show, played over two hours and the singer still had his voice. Same with Judas Priest. That dude could still sing. Axl was done for and Brian Johnson was struggling.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: affeman on March 17, 2025, 12:14:14 PM
Nope

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2025, 12:33:29 PM
They may be "most popular" that doesnt equal "best".

Musicianship, again, Metallica cant carry maidens road cases...

Vox, Drums, Bass, Guitars, (Kirk might be close to Dave Murray (maybe) but thats where musicianship and writing ends.

Just like Rap (many are more popular) but most have zero talent. Metallica havent put out anything good in ages...

I agree they haven't put out anything epic since 1988, but James is one of the best rhythm guitarists ever, IMO.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: funk51 on March 17, 2025, 12:58:48 PM
   
     
    Old metal= STILL THE BEST.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 17, 2025, 01:57:47 PM
I agree they haven't put out anything epic since 1988, but James is one of the best rhythm guitarists ever, IMO.


Who you got number one, Bob Wier, Izzy, Ronnie Wood, Malcom Young? My personal favorite is John Lennon although I don’t think he makes the list.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2025, 02:28:12 PM

Who you got number one, Bob Wier, Izzy, Ronnie Wood, Malcom Young? My personal favorite is John Lennon although I don’t think he makes the list.

Hetfield has always been my favorite.  All down picking and like 98% accurate.

But it's all subjective, and they are all so f'n good.

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Lartinos on March 17, 2025, 06:10:41 PM
This style of rock is very Gen X when I think about my interests and the ones that are popular just after my age. I don’t hate the music as I think it’s ok, but it was never the type of album myself or friends would buy.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Raymondo on March 17, 2025, 07:08:51 PM
Who under the age 50 is listening to Iron Maiden? The band has to be in their 70s by now. I grew up on the west coast and no one was into IM. They were always a weird, cartoonish band to everyone I knew growing up. And as an adult I don’t anyone listening to them. Not trying to hate, but I just never saw or knew anyone into them.

Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer... these guys were deep into Iron Maiden.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Campeon Del Mundo on March 17, 2025, 07:31:55 PM
No one has done it for as long as they have....Metallica is one of the best bands ever...
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: pamith on March 17, 2025, 08:47:19 PM
Wow, my thread took off! You mofos are all into metal! cool. Right now i'm listening to Sepultura, before that I was playing Def Leppard. I like to mix it up, something very heavy, some glam metal, etc, I change it up and I have a huge playlist on YouTube
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Stan Diego on March 17, 2025, 10:52:44 PM

Who you got number one, Bob Wier, Izzy, Ronnie Wood, Malcom Young? My personal favorite is John Lennon although I don’t think he makes the list.

That's a great list of players. James Hetfield, Malcom Young & Bob Weir. All with totally different styles, but all three are amazing at what they do
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: 1Patrick on March 18, 2025, 03:04:51 AM
Most  have these 4 groups as best of all time and it is really a toss up between them to pick best one.
Just like when people arguing about boxers,soccer players etc etc .You will find few who are standing on the top ,but picking winner is different for every person.
Metallica did not produced anything for many years ,but neither did Whitney Houston and 20+ years after her death she is still considered the best female singer of all times.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 18, 2025, 03:16:06 AM
I used to hear Mustaine kept it real, Metallica were total sellouts, Megadeth kept churning out the same old stuff lol. Mustaine most likely would also have sold out for Metallica money lol.

I'm 47 and I love Maiden, Somewhere in Time is my fave, still put it and other Maiden on in the gym, it's at least not offensive to average gym goers, easy listening not too heavy. Of course AC/DC is the premier old man band, I mean not real metal heads, regular folks :D
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Raymondo on March 18, 2025, 04:23:51 AM
I used to hear Mustaine kept it real, Metallica were total sellouts, Megadeth kept churning out the same old stuff lol.(http://Mustaine most likely would also have sold out for Metallica money lol.)
I'm 47 and I love Maiden, Somewhere in Time is my fave, still put it and other Maiden on in the gym, it's at least not offensive to average gym goers, easy listening not too heavy. Of course AC/DC is the premier old man band, I mean not real metal heads, regular folks :D

He tried to play AOR in 1999 with "Risk"...when it failed he blamed his manager, band members, record company, record shops, Lars Ulrich anyone but himself  :D
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 18, 2025, 06:15:08 AM
Wow, my thread took off! You mofos are all into metal! cool. Right now i'm listening to Sepultura, before that I was playing Def Leppard. I like to mix it up, something very heavy, some glam metal, etc, I change it up and I have a huge playlist on YouTube

Shut up pamith
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: 1Patrick on March 18, 2025, 06:18:28 AM
Shut up pamith

Bro
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: titusisback on March 18, 2025, 06:54:35 AM
I love heavy metal and hard rock, but I don't really like Metallica. Iron Maiden is good yes, and so is AC/DC. Listening to Metallica makes my mood worse, Iron Maiden and AC/DC improve my mood. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden probably don't qualify as heavy metal but they're awesome.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 18, 2025, 08:05:27 AM
I love heavy metal and hard rock, but I don't really like Metallica. Iron Maiden is good yes, and so is AC/DC. Listening to Metallica makes my mood worse, Iron Maiden and AC/DC improve my mood. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden probably don't qualify as heavy metal but they're awesome.

AIC is in my personal top 3 all time bands.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2025, 08:10:59 AM
Black Sabbath
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 18, 2025, 08:14:18 AM
Black Sabbath

I don't believe there is any metallica fan that will deny the greatness of Black Sabbath.

I think they were one of their key sources of inspiriation.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2025, 08:18:30 AM
I don't believe there is any metallica fan that will deny the greatness of Black Sabbath.

I think they were one of their key sources of inspiriation.
not Rock related but for me the best Band was the Stranglers, JJ Burnel´s bass. My older Brother was a big rock fan & visited many concerts like the Stones ( who i dislike ) but as a young guy i was a Stranglers fan  :D  still am.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Donny on March 18, 2025, 08:21:39 AM
 :)

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on March 18, 2025, 08:41:30 AM
I love heavy metal and hard rock, but I don't really like Metallica. Iron Maiden is good yes, and so is AC/DC. Listening to Metallica makes my mood worse, Iron Maiden and AC/DC improve my mood. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden probably don't qualify as heavy metal but they're awesome.

AIC and Soundgarden are amazing. Not heavy metal, but worth mentioning nonetheless. Cornell singing Far Beyond The Wheel live is unreal.

If I may continue going off on this tangent, I listened to some Journey recently, and holy shit! I always thought they were gay one-hit-wonders so I never paid them any attention but that guy's voice is insane.

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 18, 2025, 08:51:04 AM
Listening to And Justice For All.... right now. Fucking masterpiece! 
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: SF1900 on March 18, 2025, 04:41:53 PM
I like Type O Negative and Danzig.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 18, 2025, 06:07:31 PM
Listening to And Justice For All.... right now. Fucking masterpiece!

Last time I saw them they opened with Harvester of Sorrow.

You could feel it through your whole body.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: pamith on March 19, 2025, 05:19:07 AM
Shut up pamith
My nikka
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: GymnJuice on March 19, 2025, 07:18:46 AM
I like Type O Negative and Danzig.

I like Danzig too. But now every time I hear it I think of this

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 19, 2025, 07:58:22 AM
I like Danzig too. But now every time I hear it I think of this



Lol at the first comment below that:

Quote
Mother, tell your children not to punch my face!
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: SF1900 on March 19, 2025, 08:22:24 AM
I like Danzig too. But now every time I hear it I think of this



haha classic. Danzig should have known better. Other guy had size on him.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 19, 2025, 08:28:13 AM
haha classic. Danzig should have known better. Other guy had size on him.

Of course, I had to then go read the entire backstory on this, from the perspective of the band of the guy that hit him.

Sounds like Danzig deserved it.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2025, 08:36:06 AM
 :)

Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 19, 2025, 08:44:11 AM
I don't think that qualifies as metal lol
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: 1Patrick on March 19, 2025, 08:48:13 AM
I don't think that qualifies as metal lol
Yeah more like plastic than  metal..
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 19, 2025, 09:59:37 AM
Last time I saw them they opened with Harvester of Sorrow.

You could feel it through your whole body.
Love that song.
Title: Re: Is Metallica the greatest heavy metal band ever?
Post by: pamith on June 10, 2025, 10:39:34 PM
I'm currently listening to Metallica, I got a huge playlist on YouTube