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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Flexacon on June 03, 2025, 09:42:29 PM
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I can't bring myself to look at videos or pictures of bodybuilding shows or youtube reviews any more, but I saw a lot comments that Derek was lucky to win here. Scorecards were level
What are getbiggers thoughts? Was Nick really that good, or did Derek just suck? Was it a good old fashioned IFBB screwjob?
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It was close
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Nick might have been his all time best and Derek was down from his Arnold victory. I thought Nick won.
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I had Derek beating Nick pretty convincingly at the Pittsburgh Pro, but a week makes a big difference. If Derek would have entered the NY Pro, Nick would have beat him.
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Choosing Nick is going backwards in progress. Meaning the gut and the veins are a big NO! If Nick had a much better abdominal wall, he'd be better than Derek. Can't get over that atrocious gut.
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Nick's gut is messy. Lunsford and him look close in most still pics, but watching it on video or live, you can see him lose control of it then tighten up fast. Derek deserved to edge him out.
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Leading up to these shows I remember all you guys saying Nick was done, would never win a show again. Krizo would easily beat him. Nick wasn't even a second tier competitor. I said let's just see what happens before we write him off, judges have liked him historically and that Nick was looking like he has the past few years, no progress but neither was there any big regression.
None of this means I like his physique or he deserves this or that.
I saw where even Phil Heath said Nick could/should have beat Derek. Phil is the aesthetic type of bb so it's interesting for him to say that I think.
Nick might have been his all time best
Interesting :D
Posters were saying Nick is a lazy bum, obviously not realizing what it takes to compete at this level for years.
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Added a poll. Hopefully affeman chimes in and votes. Whoever he picks as the runner up will give us the real winner
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Nick really bumped up his chances coming to the Olympia.
Krizo was in great shape with Farah in his corner in Pitts and NYC ,not sure why he did not stay one more week to beat Grimes in CA.
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What's more surprising is Derek is shorter than Nick :o
Walker is supposedly 5' 7 but everyone says he's more like 5' 5 or 5' 4 even lol
So how tall is Derek? He looks like a legit midget damn. These bloated oompa loompas belong in the 212.
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A young Derek:
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2015.
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Derek won easily - Nick's blown out gut & those awful veins need
dealing with - Otherwise he did look very good.
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Added a poll. Hopefully affeman chimes in and votes. Whoever he picks as the runner up will give us the real winner
Nick won hands down, not even close
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From the pictures I saw, it looked like Nick won but pictures vs live is very different.
Im not a huge fan of Nick, but he made some improvements and Derek looked slightly better a year or two ago.
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Nick won hands down, not even close
Hmmmmm only if you like a bulbous blown out waist & varicose veins.
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Krizo was in great shape with Farah in his corner in Pitts and NYC ,not sure why he did not stay one more week to beat Grimes in CA.
We had that thread with pre-comp pics comparing Krizo and Nick. From what I've seen Krizo did have thinner skin but I had said Krizo might have trouble "projecting" well regardless, especially from a distance. If anyone has good quality pics of comparisons of these two from the stage please post. Nick did look very sloppy in those pre-comp pics but I predicted he would be in his usual condition and he was. Lighting in a posing room or where ever and the type of camera and lack of filter application affect things too. I also said the choice of coach would only affect the look fairly minimally and I think we saw that.
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We had that thread with pre-comp pics comparing Krizo and Nick. From what I've seen Krizo did have thinner skin but I had said Krizo might have trouble "projecting" well regardless, especially from a distance. If anyone has good quality pics of comparisons of these two from the stage please post. Nick did look very sloppy in those pre-comp pics but I predicted he would be in his usual condition and he was. Lighting in a posing room or where ever and the type of camera and lack of filter application affect things too. I also said the choice of coach would only affect the look fairly minimally and I think we saw that.
Krizo as a tall BB will be always looking lanky compared to Walker,Derek or even Bonac.But he could repeat top 7 at the Olympia if he did Cali show and beat Reagan again.
Now he says he will do EVLS show in Prague which is qualifier for the Olympia 2026 and wants a do ASC 2026.
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Krizo as a tall BB will be always looking lanky compared to Walker,Derek or even Bonac.But he could repeat top 7 at the Olympia if he did Cali show and beat Reagan again.
Now he says he will do EVLS show in Prague which is qualifier for the Olympia 2026 and wants a do ASC 2026.
I thought Reagan should have beaten him. Krizo is the Euro-Kuclo.
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Nick won hands down, not even close
This. I'm not even a fan of his but Derek is such overrated hot garbage. Small legs compated to his upper body. Absolute dogshit arms and chest. Hes got a big back and carved out glutes. Oh, shallow subpar abs too. This is a Mr. Olympia build?
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This. I'm not even a fan of his but Derek is such overrated hot garbage. Small legs compated to his upper body. Absolute dogshit arms and chest. Hes got a big back and carved out glutes. Oh, shallow subpar abs too. This is a Mr. Olympia build?
I think Hadi and Nick both are closer to Derek from the back than Derek is to them from the front. I hope Andrew Jacked can take big step this year and win the whole thing. To me, he looks like he should be Mr. Olympia.
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Like Phil, Nick can't suck in his gut in the side triceps so he sucks.
The "huge adductors and small calves" look is fucking retarded too. I think these guys would have to add 5 inches to their calves to make them look right.
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This. I'm not even a fan of his but Derek is such overrated hot garbage. Small legs compated to his upper body. Absolute dogshit arms and chest. Hes got a big back and carved out glutes. Oh, shallow subpar abs too. This is a Mr. Olympia build?
He gets quite a few points with those glutes, which is all genetics of course. I think he's taken the site enhancement to another level with his back but they have managed to make it look "good." Him winning the O was an insane accomplishment though, coming from the little guy class.
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Leading up to these shows I remember all you guys saying Nick was done, would never win a show again. Krizo would easily beat him. Nick wasn't even a second tier competitor. I said let's just see what happens before we write him off, judges have liked him historically and that Nick was looking like he has the past few years, no progress but neither was there any big regression.
None of this means I like his physique or he deserves this or that.
I saw where even Phil Heath said Nick could/should have beat Derek. Phil is the aesthetic type of bb so it's interesting for him to say that I think.
Interesting :D
Posters were saying Nick is a lazy bum, obviously not realizing what it takes to compete at this level for years.
Nick impressed me and we all have to admit hes a front runner to win the olympia.
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Him winning the O was an insane accomplishment though, coming from the little guy class.
Hadi doing that a year earlier kinda made it a whatever moment for Lunsford
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God I hated the ancient fckrs in the 90’s always saying how the 90’s BB were garbage compared to the 80’s…. But these guys today look terrible. I absolutely respect that they pack a shit ton of muscle, but nobody can possibly look at a prime Dorian - Levrone - Coleman and say the guys today are better.
My wife is absolutely obsessed with training but never knew a thing about BB - we watch all of the shows now and she’s actually pretty damn accurate predicting (maybe not winner but she can always pick the top 3-5). But I showed her some of the prime Dorian pics and she was amazed. Never hearing me say a thing she said that today they look like inflated balloons. Will we ever see the dense grainy look Dorian had again?
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God I hated the ancient fckrs in the 90’s always saying how the 90’s BB were garbage compared to the 80’s…. But these guys today look terrible. I absolutely respect that they pack a shit ton of muscle, but nobody can possibly look at a prime Dorian - Levrone - Coleman
True. They aren't bigger either today. And the simple reason is there haven't been any real advancements in pharmacology in 30 years.
A fair criticism of Yates and Dorian was their guts. Particularly Coleman's. And the purists back then hated the direction these two took bb.
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God I hated the ancient fckrs in the 90’s always saying how the 90’s BB were garbage compared to the 80’s…. But these guys today look terrible. I absolutely respect that they pack a shit ton of muscle, but nobody can possibly look at a prime Dorian - Levrone - Coleman and say the guys today are better.
My wife is absolutely obsessed with training but never knew a thing about BB - we watch all of the shows now and she’s actually pretty damn accurate predicting (maybe not winner but she can always pick the top 3-5). But I showed her some of the prime Dorian pics and she was amazed. Never hearing me say a thing she said that today they look like inflated balloons. Will we ever see the dense grainy look Dorian had again?
totally true, hell prime flex wheeler would smoke these guys
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They both fucking look like shit.
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totally true, hell prime flex wheeler would smoke these guys
The purists thought even Flex went downhill after 93. He did fuck up a few bodyparts with Synthol, calves looked like shit.
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The purists thought even Flex went downhill after 93. He did fuck up a few bodyparts with Synthol, calves looked like shit.
you are right 93 he looked incredible the perfect phyqique and only weight 225 i think
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you are right 93 he looked incredible the perfect phyqique and only weight 225 i think
flex was 215 in 93
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True. They aren't bigger either today. And the simple reason is there haven't been any real advancements in pharmacology in 30 years.
A fair criticism of Yates and Dorian was their guts. Particularly Coleman's. And the purists back then hated the direction these two took bb.
the difference today is 100% SEO abuse. Walker and lunsford abuse it. I believe Ruhl was the first and now these guys samson andrew jacked etc all abuse it. Check the back and hamstrings most of these guys lack both for an obvious reason. Andrew jacked is the worst standing relaxed he looks like a woman with fake tits. They ALL look like shit.
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i honestly do not see why derrick is winning his shows i think he looks like a lump of shit myself. no detail his back is overated he has the iq and personality of a rock as well. claims to be a man of the lord and abuses more drugs than a crack whore i bet he cant even wipe his own ass either
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i honestly do not see why derrick is winning his shows i think he looks like a lump of shit myself. no detail his back is overated he has the iq and personality of a rock as well. claims to be a man of the lord and abuses more drugs than a crack whore i bet he cant even wipe his own ass either
This is normal behaviour for Mr Olympias and pro bodybuilding in general
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the difference today is 100% SEO abuse. Walker and lunsford abuse it. I believe Ruhl was the first and now these guys samson andrew jacked etc all abuse it. Check the back and hamstrings most of these guys lack both for an obvious reason. Andrew jacked is the worst standing relaxed he looks like a woman with fake tits. They ALL look like shit.
Yes it's standard now. Everyone put lots of it in the rear delts, if nothing else, most of the gear goes there. I think Flex was actually the first pro with Synthol, other pros like Shawn Ray thought Flex had gotten calf implants. Even Ronnie did plenty of site injecting, especially calves. Yates did use Esiclene but that's nothing in comparison.
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Battle of the midgets
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i honestly do not see why derrick is winning his shows i think he looks like a lump of shit myself. no detail his back is overated he has the iq and personality of a rock as well. claims to be a man of the lord and abuses more drugs than a crack whore i bet he cant even wipe his own ass either
When i was talking to Derek last night - He speaks highly of you ;D
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Yes it's standard now. Everyone put lots of it in the rear delts, if nothing else, most of the gear goes there. I think Flex was actually the first pro with Synthol, other pros like Shawn Ray thought Flex had gotten calf implants. Even Ronnie did plenty of site injecting, especially calves. Yates did use Esiclene but that's nothing in comparison.
Actually manfred hoebrl was i think the first, greg valentino may have been second. Allegedly milos was putting it in his arms and got the attention of the rest of the ifbb. Now guys use it pecs shoulders arms traps lats quads. You would be nuts putting it in your calves. Good recipe to end up with a paralyzed leg. Too many nerves.
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Actually manfred hoebrl was i think the first, greg valentino may have been second. Allegedly milos was putting it in his arms and got the attention of the rest of the ifbb. Now guys use it pecs shoulders arms traps lats quads. You would be nuts putting it in your calves. Good recipe to end up with a paralyzed leg. Too many nerves.
Yes, Manfred, right. But I meant pro bodybuilders 8)
Milos actually stopped bodybuilding because of it, he had tissue necrosis, arms started to rot. Even back then he felt he had to do it because everyone else was doing it :D
For anyone who might care, I often argued that MCT oil, which Synthol is, shouldn't be harmful to health as people blamed it for kidney issues etc. But it was recently pointed out to me that constant inflammation from the shots can stress the kidneys in the long run. Lots of gear nowadays is brewed with MCT, so it's not dangerous in small amounts 8)
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When i was talking to Derek last night - He speaks highly of you ;D
ha ha well that is nice to know ! team lunsford !
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Yes, Manfred, right. But I meant pro bodybuilders 8)
Milos actually stopped bodybuilding because of it, he had tissue necrosis, arms started to rot. Even back then he felt he had to do it because everyone else was doing it :D
For anyone who might care, I often argued that MCT oil, which Synthol is, shouldn't be harmful to health as people blamed it for kidney issues etc. But it was recently pointed out to me that constant inflammation from the shots can stress the kidneys in the long run. Lots of gear nowadays is brewed with MCT, so it's not dangerous in small amounts 8)
Small amounts may be fine but these guys now are pinning several ccs a day every day into as many myscles as they can afford. Imagine 20-30ccs a day if you add steroid use on top. Thats a tough job for your kidneys no doubt
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Both looked soft And both looked like dog shit
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Small amounts may be fine but these guys now are pinning several ccs a day every day into as many myscles as they can afford. Imagine 20-30ccs a day if you add steroid use on top. Thats a tough job for your kidneys no doubt
Yes. A common tactic year round is to put a couple of CCs into the muscles you train that day, particularly weak bodyparts, maybe not all parts. Interestingly an injection of MCT might be weakly anabolic, it activates the androgen receptor and the slight damage from the injection might activate other anabolic processes. Like how prolotherapy works. The way SEO works is mainly by building scar tissue. The body actually naturally builds collagen in parts you work daily, that's why meat from upper back of beef for example is more tender than legs and so on, less sinewy collagen. I don't now how bad the scar tissue from SEO is for muscle function and health but it probably may constrict blood flow and so on when it's too much, a guess.
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Such a damaged soul.
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i personally think derick and nick walker should hook up with callum vanmoger and make a gay porn called "hard times"