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Title: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: tacobender on June 15, 2025, 04:36:37 AM
I have a couple of buddies that swear by them, but it’s like they’re always laid off have to relocate keep moving and be away from their families. We obviously know the government paid job to any of you guys have experiences with people the benefits seem pretty good, but what’s the story does anybody have or can relate to the pros and cons? These guys are getting up there in Aegis, but it seems to me. It’s more like a dictatorship like a mafia.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 15, 2025, 04:52:00 AM
If you’re working a trade it’s almost always better to be union than non-union company.  You have a lot of bullshit to deal with but at the end of the day it’s about making money and union jobs pay considerably more, most of the time.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: tatoo on June 15, 2025, 08:30:25 AM
If you’re working a trade it’s almost always better to be union than non-union company.  You have a lot of bullshit to deal with but at the end of the day it’s about making money and union jobs pay considerably more, most of the time.

not of you own your own company
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 15, 2025, 08:47:40 AM
not of you own your own company

In some cases, sure.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 15, 2025, 09:08:16 AM
i work in a union now, i used to hate them, my old union , was not worth a shit. the one i am in now has gotten us good raises   and benefits i have to admit the people i work with are a decent crew as well.  they have there pros and cons, but most companys  will fuck you in the ass with no union.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: tacobender on June 15, 2025, 02:02:37 PM
I just don’t understand my buddies work half the time it just seems very political. It’s like they are treated like bitches. They have to travel for work away from your families and then they just get dropped or laid off at the drop of a hat and back on unemployment again it just seems like a shit fuck
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 15, 2025, 02:13:46 PM
I just don’t understand my buddies work half the time it just seems very political. It’s like they are treated like bitches. They have to travel for work away from your families and then they just get dropped or laid off at the drop of a hat and back on unemployment again it just seems like a shit fuck

Taco the one thing that does burn my ass is there are people who make the same as me but are not doing the same quality of work that is the one thing I hate about unions
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: judochoke on June 15, 2025, 10:15:34 PM
I was in a union for 33 years. I was a boiler operator and also ran the biggest ammonia plant in California. Steady work, good hours, everyone was cool, had to work all shifts. Pay raises were steady, medical slowly creeped up on us. But over all, was a great job. I now have been retired for 10 years, and the pension pays off like a slot machine every month.

And when i croak my lovely wife will get the same amount until she dies. UNION IS LOSING MONEY ON MY OLD ASS. LOLLLLLLLLL
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 16, 2025, 12:49:22 AM
If I were a lifetime blue collar worker I would probably want to join a union. Philosophically, I'm against them.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: sync pulse on June 16, 2025, 01:47:16 AM
I wish I had union representation during my radio career...
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Gimmick1 on June 17, 2025, 04:07:26 AM
Union jobs are blue collar work. Blue collar work is hard labor. Best to avoid
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Old School Trainer on June 17, 2025, 04:13:39 AM
I was a union millwright in NJ before I went back to running my window/door business.  I made a shit ton more money with less stress in the union than what I deal with now trying to find and keep employees and my 60-70 hour work weeks.  It's hard once you're a owner/boss to go back and work for anyone.  What kills me now at age 60 is the desire to be back into the gym but I'm always so stressed out about my projects with OCD level work that I can never unplug from installing or estimating.  Staying in the union would have given me a much better life looking back, hell I could be retired.  The rate for regular journeymen is over $60 an hour.  At my age I'd be a boss at about $80 an hour with annuity, pension, and the best benefits.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: IroNat on June 17, 2025, 04:51:17 AM
I was a union millwright in NJ before I went back to running my window/door business.  I made a shit ton more money with less stress in the union than what I deal with now trying to find and keep employees and my 60-70 hour work weeks.  It's hard once you're a owner/boss to go back and work for anyone.  What kills me now at age 60 is the desire to be back into the gym but I'm always so stressed out about my projects with OCD level work that I can never unplug from installing or estimating.  Staying in the union would have given me a much better life looking back, hell I could be retired.  The rate for regular journeymen is over $60 an hour.  At my age I'd be a boss at about $80 an hour with annuity, pension, and the best benefits.

So true what you are saying.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: IroNat on June 17, 2025, 04:52:01 AM
Union jobs are blue collar work. Blue collar work is hard labor. Best to avoid

You've always avoided hard work, or any work for that matter.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: SF1900 on June 17, 2025, 05:09:18 AM
People who are against unions usually have some about envy about not being in a union.

Who is going to turn down a job with mandatory raises, benefits, vacation, pension etc.

Both of my parents retired with pensions and they also get SS. They both get great pensions, plus their social security and lifetime medical coverage but they have to pay into the medical coverage. I remember growing up, we had the best medical coverage: $5.00 copay for almost everything. Yeah, for those who say they hate unions, will jump at the first opportunity to join a union, particularly if you get a great pension. Who is going to turn down a lifetime pension? Not one damn person.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Gimmick1 on June 17, 2025, 05:23:21 AM
People who are against unions usually have some about envy about not being in a union.

Who is going to turn down a job with mandatory raises, benefits, vacation, pension etc.

Both of my parents retired with pensions and they also get SS. They both get great pensions, plus their social security and lifetime medical coverage but they have to pay into the medical coverage. I remember growing up, we had the best medical coverage: $5.00 copay for almost everything. Yeah, for those who say they hate unions, will jump at the first opportunity to join a union, particularly if you get a great pension. Who is going to turn down a lifetime pension? Not one damn person.

Do you want a lifetime pension of 20k a year or a annual income of 200k lots of people will turn down guaranteed low paying long term benefits for higher current pay
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: 38 returns on June 17, 2025, 05:54:41 AM
look everyone the bitch who lived off daddies money is giving career advice.

remember the job at the store he couldnt hack.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: SF1900 on June 17, 2025, 06:17:01 AM
Do you want a lifetime pension of 20k a year or a annual income of 200k lots of people will turn down guaranteed low paying long term benefits for higher current pay

Who is talking about 20K a year salary? I have a family member who makes over 100K working a blue collar union job. Electricians, plumbers, etc, who are unionized, make at least 75K+. Cops and fireman in NYC can easily clear over 100K+. And depending on what your contract is, that is not a bad pension, plus social security. There are tons of blue collar union jobs where people make good livings and wind up with damn good pensions. I dont know anyone who is part of a union who makes 20K a year, particularly in a skilled trade/craft. Not one.

You're going to the outliers to try and prove your point, talking about 20K a year vs. 200K a year. What about all the people in the middle who make 75 to 175K a year with pensions? Furthermore, anyone who is offered a salary of 20K is likely also not being offered a position for 200K, at the same. That's the dumbest thing ever. In what field is someone offered 20K vs. 200K? haha lol. Whatever field a person is in, the salary's are going to be somewhat similar, from one position to the next. If someone is offered 2 positions, one at 100K with no pension and one at 90K with a pension, the person would likely take the latter.  If youre going to give an example, use a better, more realistic example than 20K vs. 200K.  ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: US MUSL on June 17, 2025, 07:58:28 AM
I've been a union member (UAW) for 40 years. Has been steady pay, no insurance deductable, and a pension, plus I contribute to a 401K. For the last 15 years I have made $150k-200k a year, but it does require alot of overtime to make this annually.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Gimmick1 on June 17, 2025, 08:46:52 AM
I've been a union member (UAW) for 40 years. Has been steady pay, no insurance deductable, and a pension, plus I contribute to a 401K. For the last 15 years I have made $150k-200k a year, but it does require alot of overtime to make this annually.

I am not knocking union workers they work hard and can make good money just saying it’s hard physical labor usually which ideally I would prefer not to do
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Gimmick1 on June 17, 2025, 08:49:12 AM
Who is talking about 20K a year salary? I have a family member who makes over 100K working a blue collar union job. Electricians, plumbers, etc, who are unionized, make at least 75K+. Cops and fireman in NYC can easily clear over 100K+. And depending on what your contract is, that is not a bad pension, plus social security. There are tons of blue collar union jobs where people make good livings and wind up with damn good pensions. I dont know anyone who is part of a union who makes 20K a year, particularly in a skilled trade/craft. Not one.

You're going to the outliers to try and prove your point, talking about 20K a year vs. 200K a year. What about all the people in the middle who make 75 to 175K a year with pensions? Furthermore, anyone who is offered a salary of 20K is likely also not being offered a position for 200K, at the same. That's the dumbest thing ever. In what field is someone offered 20K vs. 200K? haha lol. Whatever field a person is in, the salary's are going to be somewhat similar, from one position to the next. If someone is offered 2 positions, one at 100K with no pension and one at 90K with a pension, the person would likely take the latter.  If youre going to give an example, use a better, more realistic example than 20K vs. 200K.  ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)

If you want to make your living doing physical labor have at it. I have no problem saying I would prefer not to do back breaking labor for a living. I realize it’s good honest money with benefits just saying I would prefer to sit at a desk in the Ac with internet access and stock options. But by all means any job that pays the bills is a a good job
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 17, 2025, 08:54:07 AM
If you want to make your living doing physical labor have at it. I have no problem saying I would prefer not to do back breaking labor for a living. I realize it’s good honest money with benefits just saying I would prefer to sit at a desk in the Ac with internet access and stock options. But by all means any job that pays the bills is a a good job
Desk jobs suck as well. Best to be a NEET or trust fund baby.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: CalorieKing on June 17, 2025, 08:54:39 AM
If you want to make your living doing physical labor have at it. I have no problem saying I would prefer not to do back breaking labor for a living. I realize it’s good honest money with benefits just saying I would prefer to sit at a desk in the Ac with internet access and stock options. But by all means any job that pays the bills is a a good job

Lolol...what a pussy
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: MajorDomo on June 17, 2025, 08:58:06 AM
You've always avoided hard work, or any work for that matter.

"hard work" is a silly term. I made more money in the first 5 years of my own business than I had made in the 20 years prior- and it certainly wasn't hard work.

The term is a throwback to the days people thought manual labor was the only way to make a living.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 17, 2025, 09:04:17 AM
"hard work" is a silly term. I made more money in the first 5 years of my own business than I had made in the 20 years prior- and it certainly wasn't hard work.

The term is a throwback to the days people thought manual labor was the only way to make a living.
It makes people feel morally superior instead of a slave.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 17, 2025, 09:58:17 AM
Oh I forgot to mention not only will I get a pension but I also have a separate 401k

It’s not a bad gig some unions are better than others
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: SF1900 on June 17, 2025, 09:59:39 AM
If you want to make your living doing physical labor have at it. I have no problem saying I would prefer not to do back breaking labor for a living. I realize it’s good honest money with benefits just saying I would prefer to sit at a desk in the Ac with internet access and stock options. But by all means any job that pays the bills is a a good job

I have a white collar job. I just recognize that many people in blue collar professions make very good livings and receive a nice pension, particularly if youre part of a union. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't have a pension job, but I could if I worked for the city, state, county or government. On the other hand, I have the type of job that I can do into old age (if I am decent both physically and mentally).
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 17, 2025, 10:41:18 AM
I was a union millwright in NJ before I went back to running my window/door business.  I made a shit ton more money with less stress in the union than what I deal with now trying to find and keep employees and my 60-70 hour work weeks.  It's hard once you're a owner/boss to go back and work for anyone.  What kills me now at age 60 is the desire to be back into the gym but I'm always so stressed out about my projects with OCD level work that I can never unplug from installing or estimating.  Staying in the union would have given me a much better life looking back, hell I could be retired.  The rate for regular journeymen is over $60 an hour.  At my age I'd be a boss at about $80 an hour with annuity, pension, and the best benefits.


I feel you on that. I have the same thoughts about if I were to sell my business, there’s no way I could just jump back in working for someone. I’d have to do commercial real estate or something that gave me freedom.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: IroNat on June 17, 2025, 10:50:52 AM
"hard work" is a silly term. I made more money in the first 5 years of my own business than I had made in the 20 years prior- and it certainly wasn't hard work.

The term is a throwback to the days people thought manual labor was the only way to make a living.

Sorry, I meant to say "hardly working" as in "Bhanky has been hardly working".
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: MajorDomo on June 17, 2025, 10:54:48 AM
Sorry, I meant to say "hardly working" as in "Bhanky has been hardly working".

haha- roger that
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Lartinos on June 17, 2025, 10:57:07 AM
Sorry, I meant to say "hardly working" as in "Bhanky has been hardly working".

Bhanky is clearing 200k this year while the haters are doing physically demanding work.
Bhanky for the win..
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: IroNat on June 17, 2025, 11:00:13 AM
Bhanky is clearing 200k this year while the haters are doing physically demanding work.
Bhanky for the win..

He has a money-tree.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: delon on June 17, 2025, 03:52:55 PM
You've always avoided hard work, or any work for that matter.

And only a single year in total subsequent to the below in bold. So basically 1 year in the last 15 or so since 2010


If I had not inherited money, I may have not taken a decade off work to Kitesurf. I would probably be at Director level at a Bank somewhere like the rest of my former colleagues. But that is ok I am going back to Law School now the Law is more interesting to me than accounting/finance anyway something new and different.

How many people get to enjoy life in Maui in their 30s? There is plenty of time to work in this life.




Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2025, 12:12:58 AM
Bhanky is clearing 200k this year while the haters are doing physically demanding work.
Bhanky for the win..
He gets paid for law school?
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: IroNat on June 18, 2025, 04:23:01 AM
He gets paid for law school?

Bhanky is a highly sought after wrestler-athlete by the law school wrestling program.

This is NIL money.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/41040485/what-nil-college-sports-how-do-athlete-deals-work
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: tacobender on June 18, 2025, 04:00:44 PM
He gets paid for law school?
he gets paid by Getbig  to post on here
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 19, 2025, 12:26:21 AM
he gets paid by Getbig  to post on here
We would pay him to not post on here.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: SF1900 on June 19, 2025, 01:15:30 AM
he gets paid by Getbig  to post on here

Yes, this is true. I heard rumors that he gets $1,500 per month.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: _bruce_ on June 19, 2025, 02:40:01 AM
Yes, this is true. I heard rumors that he gets $1,500 per month.

Dude's rightfully enjoying Celltech's Trisomy21 sponsorship option
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: tacobender on June 19, 2025, 11:01:27 AM
My buddies are at the apprenticeship level but the crazy part is they work these jobs sometimes they’ll work them for a year long and they’re laid off but it seems like they are laid off more than they actually work so to me that doesn’t make sense
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 20, 2025, 12:23:27 AM
My buddies are at the apprenticeship level but the crazy part is they work these jobs sometimes they’ll work them for a year long and they’re laid off but it seems like they are laid off more than they actually work so to me that doesn’t make sense
That's why they are popular jobs. They make more on unemployment than many people make working.
Title: Re: How do people feel about union jobs? Or careers?
Post by: IroNat on June 20, 2025, 08:56:44 AM