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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: udeluz on May 05, 2006, 06:09:37 AM
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Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?
1-8 dbol 50mg/day
1-16 600mg/week test
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-16 HCG @ 500IU e5d
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)
Liv 52
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Is this your first cycle? ???
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I have been off the gear for years, I am in very good shape, just looking to see some gains. I stay right at the 175-180 mark with good eating habits, and work out 5 to 7 times a week. I was going to do just Test-Deca-Dbol, but I have seen good results from this stack.
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Structure:
1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-14 500mg/week test
1-13 400mg/week nandrolone
4-16 500iu/week hcg
16-18 150mg/day clomid
19-20 50mg/day clomid
16-20 40mg/day nolva
I am 35 5'11" 175lbs BF is 16.4 My target is 195-200 w/12% BF
Honestly the only change i would make is to run the nolva with the cycle since you already have clomid for your PCT (really no need to run both since they both do the same thing and on paper nolva is better). Are you prone to gyno? If not ya you can run the nolva at PCT which is fine. But if you have ever had a problem with gyno you could run the nolva at 10mg a day or EOD through out the cycle.
Oh and also the deca and test ratio should be 2:1 so if your dick isnt working cut the 400mg to 300mg...
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DIVISIONAL CHANGES:
1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 500mg/week test
1-12 HCG @ 500IU ed
13-16 PCT (Nolvadex)
DIV
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Div,
Why do you recomend that I not use the Deca?
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Div,
Why do you recomend that I not use the Deca?
Deca should be run for twelve weeks at the least and then you'd need four additional weeks to get it out of your system before PCT which extends the cycle to sixteen weeks.
That's too long for a newbie cycle, plus you want to stick with one or two compounds at the most.
DIV
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your not going to listen so just do what ya want
maybe it will work out
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Deca should be run for twelve weeks at the least and then you'd need four additional weeks to get it out of your system before PCT which extends the cycle to sixteen weeks.
That's too long for a newbie cycle, plus you want to stick with one or two compounds at the most.
DIV
exactly...
plus deca dick aint no fun.unless you'r running test with it...
but i'm guessing that the dood is asking about this after he already bought the stuff..which means he's stuck with the deca.
i'd run the deca with the test in that case...
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To really have any real muscle gains with drugs, you have to first have a good base. And a buck 75 is not
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To really have any real muscle gains with drugs, you have to first have a good base. And a buck 75 is not
LOL Your saying that because I am 175, the gear wont show me any gains???
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DIVISIONAL CHANGES:
1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 500mg/week test
1-12 HCG @ 500IU ed
13-16 PCT (Nolvadex)
DIV
and add in some arimidex 1/2 mg eod ..... unless you want titties like DIV
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.5 mg eod adex througout cycle
start hcg week1
extend test 4 weeks past deca
finish off cycle with prop
nolva and aromasin for pct
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just run the damn deca....it aint gonna hurt you.... who knows how your body willl react until you do it..... i dont agree with that shit about just running test for first cycle because the deca will help to solidify your gains
just make sure you have close to a 2:1 test/deca ratio or you will be like a neutered dog
take as much gear as you can take in a 16 week period of time is my philosophy...... balls to the walls
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exactly...
plus deca dick aint no fun.unless you'r running test with it...
but i'm guessing that the dood is asking about this after he already bought the stuff..which means he's stuck with the deca.
i'd run the deca with the test in that case...
^Concur, Junaid.
These people run the shit and start asking questions mid-cycle...
A bit too late at that point.
just make sure you have close to a 2:1 test/deca ratio or you will be like a neutered dog
^Jonathan learned the hard (soft) way.
DIV
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^Concur, Junaid.
These people run the shit and start asking questions mid-cycle...
A bit too late at that point.
^Jonathan learned the hard (soft) way.
DIV
no pun intended
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Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?
1-8 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-12 600mg/week Test E
12-16 600 mg/week Test P
1-16 HCG @ 500IU e5d
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)
Liv 52
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HCG should be run at 500iu's EOD....not ed
Also, I would also run adex during ur cycle...
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Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?
1-6 dbol 50mg/day
1-16 600mg/week test
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-16 HCG @ 500IU eod
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)
hcg is 500iu every 5th day (e5d) not ed, not eod.
PCT starts at wk 17 if you have been using prop the last few wks. If you have been using a slower estered test and it doesn't matter what it is, the PCT starts wk 19.
Add in a-dex .5mg-1mg eod
Last off, and I say this for every test/deca/dbol cycle I reply to, I'd drop the dbol and add in winny the last 6wks at 50mg ed, simply for the fact that I personally hate dbol and find winny much more beneficial.
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my bad....that was a typo....and i assumed his was too....
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run the test
and throw everything else in the mix.
the deca going to screw you up without the test.
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Thanks bros.
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Does anyone see a problem with this revised cycle?
1-6 dbol 50mg/day
1-16 600mg/week test
1-12 300mg/week Deca
1-16 HCG @ 500IU eod
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)
I think it's a fine cycle. I see no problems with it.
I was also thinking what arnie was thinking. I run my hcg at 500IU every 5 days throughout, and then into the first week of PCT and then stop it. You'll have to play around with the Arimidex dosage. In general it's typical to recommend about 1 mg every other day, but on my last cycle I required 0.7mg every day to get me feeling just right.
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DIVISIONAL CHANGES:
1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 200mg/week Deca
1-12 500mg/week Test E
12-16 500 mg/week Test P
1-16 HCG @ 500IU e5d
1-16 Arimidex 1MG eod
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)
DIV
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D,
Can you explain why you bumped everything down a bit? And what if I were to change from the test e to sust.?
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D,
Can you explain why you bumped everything down a bit? And what if I were to change from the test e to sust.?
Isn't this your first cycle?
Test is Test.....it won't make that big of a difference.
DIV
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Isn't this your first cycle?
Test is Test.....it won't make that big of a difference.
DIV
there is a big difference between sustanon and test-e in my body..... the test-e is too mild and my body loves the sustanon
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you like anything!!
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there is a big difference between sustanon and test-e in my body..... the test-e is too mild and my body loves the sustanon
We're not talking about you Jonathan, we're talking about the newbie.
To his body, any test will be fine....
DIV
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No Div, this will be my 3rd, I did two back in my 20's.....................Di d them wrong too (Internet was just coming out) They were....
500mg Omnadren a week for 12 weeks
50mg Dbol ed for 4 weeks
Saw great gains but lost alot post cycle.
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No Div, this will be my 3rd, I did two back in my 20's.....................Di d them wrong too (Internet was just coming out) They were....
500mg Omnadren a week for 12 weeks
50mg Dbol ed for 4 weeks
Saw great gains but lost alot post cycle.
Those two are so long ago that they don't count.
You are still a newbie.....
In case you didn't know, when you take that long off between cycles, your receptors will react as if you are a newbie.
That was the point.
DIV