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Title: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 22, 2025, 07:42:36 AM
FBI agents raided the home of former national security adviser John Bolton early Friday as part of a high-profile national security investigation.

A source confirmed to Newsmax that the investigation is focused on the handling of classified documents and national security secrets.

The raid began around 7 a.m. ET at Bolton's residence in Bethesda, Maryland, and was ordered by FBI Director Kash Patel.

FBI Director Kash Patel, who in a 2023 book he wrote included Bolton in a list of "members of the Executive Branch Deep State," posted on X: "NO ONE is above the law… @FBI agents on mission."

Attorney General Pam Bondi shared his post, adding: "America's safety isn't negotiable. Justice will be pursued. Always."

FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino also shared his post, writing on X: "Public corruption will not be tolerated."

The FBI searched the Maryland home and Washington office of Bolton, who served in President Donald Trump's first administration as national security adviser but later became critical of the president, as part of an investigation into the handling of classified information, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.

Bolton was not detained and has not been charged with any crimes, said the person, who was not authorized to discuss the investigation by name and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.

After the search at Bolton's home started, he was spotted Friday morning standing in the lobby of the Washington building where he keeps an office and talking to two people with "FBI" visible on their vests. He left a few minutes later and appeared to have gone upstairs in the building. Agents were seen taking bags into the office building through a back entrance.

The searches appear to be the most significant public step the Justice Department has taken against a perceived enemy of the president.

The searches of Bolton's home and office come as the Trump administration has taken steps to examine the activities of other critics, including by authorizing a grand jury investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe.

AP's messages left with a spokesperson for Bolton were not immediately returned, and a lawyer who has represented Bolton had no immediate comment.

The White House did not comment and referred questions about the probe to the FBI. The Justice Department also had no comment, but leaders appeared to cryptically refer to the search of Bolton's home in a series of social media posts Friday morning.

The Justice Department is also conducting mortgage fraud investigations into Sen. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and New York Attorney General Letitia James, who brought a civil fraud lawsuit against Trump and his company, and former Trump prosecutor Jack Smith faces an investigation from an independent watchdog office. Schiff and James have vigorously denied any wrongdoing through their lawyers.

In an ABC interview earlier this month, Bolton was asked about whether he was worried about the Trump administration taking action against him. Bolton said Trump had "already come after" him by taking away his security detail, and he added: "I think it is a retribution presidency."

Bolton served as Trump's third national security adviser for 17 months and clashed with him over Iran, Afghanistan, and North Korea. He faced scrutiny during the first Trump administration over a book he wrote about his time in government that officials argued disclosed classified information, but the Justice Department in 2021 abandoned its lawsuit and dropped a separate grand jury investigation.

Bolton's lawyers have said he moved forward with the book after a White House National Security Council official, with whom Bolton had worked for months, said the manuscript no longer contained classified information.

On his first day back in office this year, Trump revoked the security clearances of more than four dozen former intelligence officials, including Bolton. Bolton was also among a group of former Trump officials whose security details were canceled by Trump earlier this year.

Bolton's scathing book, "The Room Where It Happened," portrayed Trump as grossly ill-informed about foreign policy and said he "saw conspiracies behind rocks, and remained stunningly uninformed on how to run the White House, let alone the huge federal government."

Trump responded by slamming Bolton as a "crazy" war-monger who would have led the country into "World War Six."

Bolton served as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations under President George W. Bush and also held positions in President Ronald Reagan's administration. He had considered running for president in 2012 and 2016.

In 2022, an Iranian operative was charged in a plot to kill Bolton in presumed retaliation for a January 2020 U.S. airstrike that killed the country's most powerful general. Bolton had by then left the Trump administration but tweeted, "Hope this is the first step to regime change in Tehran."

Information from The Associated Press was used to compile this report.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-raid-john-bolton/2025/08/22/id/1223513/?ns_mail_uid=8b9b65c6-1bb0-4a37-966e-912de1caf965&ns_mail_job=DM841208_08222025&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102p009bz

Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: B_B_C on August 22, 2025, 10:51:56 AM


Information from The Associated Press was used to compile this report.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-raid-john-bolton/2025/08/22/id/1223513/?ns_mail_uid=8b9b65c6-1bb0-4a37-966e-912de1caf965&ns_mail_job=DM841208_08222025&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010102p009bz


Isn't the AP part of the deep state fake media ?
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 22, 2025, 11:23:57 AM
  FAKE NEWS= If it ain't on FOX news it ain't real. At least that's what my tRUMPtard friends tell me. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: jude2 on August 22, 2025, 07:05:48 PM
I hope this asshole goes down for something.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 23, 2025, 05:25:11 AM
Did/does he have anything there or is this motivated by Trumps ego?
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 23, 2025, 07:55:25 AM
Did/does he have anything there or is this motivated by Trumps ego?

How do we know until we know?

If a leader's ego aligns with the goals of the country he leads, it's fine.

After all the screaming for accountability for the weaponization of the DoJ and FBI with Russiagate, etc, this is what needs to happen.

Of course the media will react in a way that's anti-trump, and the TDS infected will gobble it up.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Primemuscle on August 23, 2025, 02:39:02 PM
How do we know until we know?

If a leader's ego aligns with the goals of the country he leads, it's fine.

After all the screaming for accountability for the weaponization of the DoJ and FBI with Russiagate, etc, this is what needs to happen.

Of course the media will react in a way that's anti-trump, and the TDS infected will gobble it up.

Whether it needs to happen or not, it is still weaponization of the DOJ against (Trump's) political opponents and based on political grievances which the examples below confirm.

John Bolton: The former National Security Adviser's home was raided by the FBI in August 2025, reviving a previously closed investigation into his 2020 memoir. The new probe is allegedly over classified documents and has been criticized as political retribution for Bolton's public criticism of Trump.
Miles Taylor: The former Department of Homeland Security official was directed for investigation by Trump in April 2025. Taylor wrote an anonymous 2018 op-ed and a book critical of the administration and endorsed Joe Biden in 2020. Trump has publicly accused Taylor of treason.
Christopher Krebs: The former top cybersecurity official was directed for investigation by Trump in April 2025. Trump fired Krebs in 2020 after he confirmed the security of the 2020 election.
Letitia James: The New York Attorney General is the subject of a grand jury investigation by the DOJ over her personal real estate transactions. The probe follows her civil fraud case against Trump's business, which has been appealed.
Adam Schiff: CNN reported in August 2025 that the DOJ had opened an investigation into the congressman and frequent Trump critic. Trump has a long history of animosity towards Schiff, including repeated calls for his prosecution.
James Comey and John Brennan: The former FBI and CIA directors, respectively, are facing criminal investigations launched by the DOJ in July 2025. The specific focus is unclear, but both were leaders during the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Law firms: Trump has revoked the security clearances of several law firms, accusing them of "weaponizing the justice system". Some firms, such as Jenner & Block, Perkins Coie, and WilmerHale, have had Trump's orders paused by judges, while others, like Willkie Farr & Gallagher and Skadden, Arps, have struck deals with the administration.
Jack Smith: The special prosecutor who previously investigated Trump is now himself under investigation by a government watchdog agency.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2025, 02:47:56 PM
Whether it needs to happen or not, it is still weaponization of the DOJ against (Trump's) political opponents and based on political grievances which the examples below confirm.

Bullshit. You're only saying that because it's against Trump.  ::)
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Primemuscle on August 23, 2025, 02:53:44 PM
Bullshit. You're only saying that because it's against Trump.  ::)

What is against Trump?
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2025, 03:04:38 PM
What is against Trump?
Are you serious?
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Primemuscle on August 23, 2025, 05:06:35 PM
Are you serious?

Yup, I am serious. I posted that this is weaponization of the DOJ against Trump's political opponents and not that it is against Trump himself. Weaponization of the DOJ against one's political opponents is wrong no matter who is behind it or who is the victim of it.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 23, 2025, 08:02:30 PM
Whether it needs to happen or not, it is still weaponization of the DOJ against (Trump's) political opponents and based on political grievances which the examples below confirm.

John Bolton: The former National Security Adviser's home was raided by the FBI in August 2025, reviving a previously closed investigation into his 2020 memoir. The new probe is allegedly over classified documents and has been criticized as political retribution for Bolton's public criticism of Trump.
Miles Taylor: The former Department of Homeland Security official was directed for investigation by Trump in April 2025. Taylor wrote an anonymous 2018 op-ed and a book critical of the administration and endorsed Joe Biden in 2020. Trump has publicly accused Taylor of treason.
Christopher Krebs: The former top cybersecurity official was directed for investigation by Trump in April 2025. Trump fired Krebs in 2020 after he confirmed the security of the 2020 election.
Letitia James: The New York Attorney General is the subject of a grand jury investigation by the DOJ over her personal real estate transactions. The probe follows her civil fraud case against Trump's business, which has been appealed.
Adam Schiff: CNN reported in August 2025 that the DOJ had opened an investigation into the congressman and frequent Trump critic. Trump has a long history of animosity towards Schiff, including repeated calls for his prosecution.
James Comey and John Brennan: The former FBI and CIA directors, respectively, are facing criminal investigations launched by the DOJ in July 2025. The specific focus is unclear, but both were leaders during the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Law firms: Trump has revoked the security clearances of several law firms, accusing them of "weaponizing the justice system". Some firms, such as Jenner & Block, Perkins Coie, and WilmerHale, have had Trump's orders paused by judges, while others, like Willkie Farr & Gallagher and Skadden, Arps, have struck deals with the administration.
Jack Smith: The special prosecutor who previously investigated Trump is now himself under investigation by a government watchdog agency.

An investigation into crimes is not weaponization.

Helping manufacture crimes to convict someone is.

If the latter didn't happen, the former would not be happening now.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: jude2 on August 23, 2025, 09:41:36 PM
I am sure they have something on this asshole.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Primemuscle on August 23, 2025, 11:46:44 PM
An investigation into crimes is not weaponization.

Helping manufacture crimes to convict someone is.

If the latter didn't happen, the former would not be happening now.

Your response is convoluted bullshit.

DOJ officials claim to be combating the “weaponization” of justice and at the same time they are weaponizing it against this list of Trump's critics, i.e. John Bolton and the rest of the folks on Trump and Patel's hit list.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2025, 05:23:18 AM
Your response is convoluted bullshit.

DOJ officials claim to be combating the “weaponization” of justice and at the same time they are weaponizing it against this list of Trump's critics, i.e. John Bolton and the rest of the folks on Trump and Patel's hit list.
       Leave him be if it makes him happy that's all that matters in today's world.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 06:38:12 AM
       Leave him be if it makes him happy that's all that matters in today's world.

Stay out of it.

You can't even have a coherent conversation on any of these topics, flunked_high_school_in'51
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 06:40:22 AM
Your response is convoluted bullshit.

DOJ officials claim to be combating the “weaponization” of justice and at the same time they are weaponizing it against this list of Trump's critics, i.e. John Bolton and the rest of the folks on Trump and Patel's hit list.

Eat shit with that response.

Why not just provide examples or a legit counter argument?

I can list real, tangible examples of what happened under the Biden admin.  Stuff that is completely factual and was called out at the time.

Your counter is "see Trumps does it too".

The department of Justice investigates crimes - if the prior admin potentially committed them, is the current admin not supposed to investigate?


Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2025, 06:55:39 AM
Stay out of it.

You can't even have a coherent conversation on any of these topics, flunked_high_school_in'51
  Who the hell do you think you are ?  the moral conscience of GETBIG. you have no right to tell me or any other member what they can or can't do. HOW many college degrees do you have?
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 07:39:49 AM
  Who the hell do you think you are ?  the moral conscience of GETBIG. you have no right to tell me or any other member what they can or can't do. HOW many college degrees do you have?

No, but I'm also not the guy who can't even use his own words to have a conversation, and I'm also not the guy who literally posts the same exact doctored pics over and over again.  That's you.

So, if you make a comment about me outside your retard TDS thread, I'll respond in kind.

So again, when adults are talking, keep your childish shit out of it, funk'd_in_the_head51

Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2025, 07:51:03 AM
No, but I'm also not the guy who can't even use his own words to have a conversation, and I'm also not the guy who literally posts the same exact doctored pics over and over again.  That's you.

So, if you make a comment about me outside your retard TDS thread, I'll respond in kind.

So again, when adults are talking, keep your childish shit out of it, funk'd_in_the_head51
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well you're a real clever guy. So, how many degrees do you have You didn't answer the question. I figure you must have at least an advanced degree in political science from a highly respected university. Well, do YOU ?
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 08:32:59 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well you're a real clever guy. So, how many degrees do you have You didn't answer the question. I figure you must have at least an advanced degree in political science from a highly respected university. Well, do YOU ?

What does it matter?

Of course I have a degree.

But this is a message board.  The only criteria people should be judged on is the merit of their posts.

Which is exactly what I'm doing with you.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: chaos on August 24, 2025, 08:41:22 AM
Your response is convoluted bullshit.

DOJ officials claim to be combating the “weaponization” of justice and at the same time they are weaponizing it against this list of Trump's critics, i.e. John Bolton and the rest of the folks on Trump and Patel's hit list.
Another shitty opinion manipulated by MSM. You're old enough to know better but you keep falling for it.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: B_B_C on August 24, 2025, 08:43:51 AM
  Who the hell do you think you are ?  the moral conscience of GETBIG. you have no right to tell me or any other member what they can or can't do. HOW many college degrees do you have?

Please do not be haranguing Grape Ape
He goes to enormous trouble to lead you back in to the way of the light and the Truth
He has told the board he is not a sour grape  and I believe, as we all should, that he is not a real grape though he some times acts like a bruised peach
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: chaos on August 24, 2025, 08:45:25 AM
  Who the hell do you think you are ?  the moral conscience of GETBIG. you have no right to tell me or any other member what they can or can't do. HOW many college degrees do you have?
You're on the same level as OAK.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well you're a real clever guy. So, how many degrees do you have You didn't answer the question. I figure you must have at least an advanced degree in political science from a highly respected university. Well, do YOU ?
Doesn't take a degree in political science to see how easily you old folks are manipulated. It's because when you were growing up trusting the news and the media was a real thing. You were led to believe that they were telling the truth 100% of the time. As history and technology have advanced, the medias exploitation of the brainwashed masses has become evident. Some have waken up and search out their own information to form opinions on and others, like you old folks here, have double downed and ride the coattails of your past.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 08:58:41 AM
Please do not be haranguing Grape Ape
He goes to enormous trouble to lead you back in to the way of the light and the Truth
He has told the board he is not a sour grape  and I believe, as we all should, that he is not a real grape though he some times acts like a bruised peach

To be bruised, you'd have to have some kind of emotional attachment to these things.

I have none.

But, I am all for a modicum of haranguing (or as dj181 would call it a "mediocrom"), but funk seems to be exceeding that quantity.

Props on your use of the word, however.



Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 24, 2025, 09:23:03 AM
Whether it needs to happen or not, it is still weaponization of the DOJ against (Trump's) political opponents and based on political grievances which the examples below confirm.

John Bolton: The former National Security Adviser's home was raided by the FBI in August 2025, reviving a previously closed investigation into his 2020 memoir. The new probe is allegedly over classified documents and has been criticized as political retribution for Bolton's public criticism of Trump.
Miles Taylor: The former Department of Homeland Security official was directed for investigation by Trump in April 2025. Taylor wrote an anonymous 2018 op-ed and a book critical of the administration and endorsed Joe Biden in 2020. Trump has publicly accused Taylor of treason.
Christopher Krebs: The former top cybersecurity official was directed for investigation by Trump in April 2025. Trump fired Krebs in 2020 after he confirmed the security of the 2020 election.
Letitia James: The New York Attorney General is the subject of a grand jury investigation by the DOJ over her personal real estate transactions. The probe follows her civil fraud case against Trump's business, which has been appealed.
Adam Schiff: CNN reported in August 2025 that the DOJ had opened an investigation into the congressman and frequent Trump critic. Trump has a long history of animosity towards Schiff, including repeated calls for his prosecution.
James Comey and John Brennan: The former FBI and CIA directors, respectively, are facing criminal investigations launched by the DOJ in July 2025. The specific focus is unclear, but both were leaders during the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Law firms: Trump has revoked the security clearances of several law firms, accusing them of "weaponizing the justice system". Some firms, such as Jenner & Block, Perkins Coie, and WilmerHale, have had Trump's orders paused by judges, while others, like Willkie Farr & Gallagher and Skadden, Arps, have struck deals with the administration.
Jack Smith: The special prosecutor who previously investigated Trump is now himself under investigation by a government watchdog agency.

This is why no one takes you seriously
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2025, 01:18:41 PM
No, but I'm also not the guy who can't even use his own words to have a conversation, and I'm also not the guy who literally posts the same exact doctored pics over and over again.  That's you.

So, if you make a comment about me outside your retard TDS thread, I'll respond in kind.

So again, when adults are talking, keep your childish shit out of it, funk'd_in_the_head51
   keep your childish shit out of it, funk'd_in_the_head51                       Talk about childish the guy who resorts to name calling like a 12 year old. PLEASE. I actually thought you were better than that.
   
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2025, 01:20:09 PM
To be bruised, you'd have to have some kind of emotional attachment to these things.

I have none.

But, I am all for a modicum of haranguing (or as dj181 would call it a "mediocrom"), but funk seems to be exceeding that quantity.

Props on your use of the word, however.
     So you are more or less trolling the board then, no big surprise there.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2025, 01:22:11 PM
You're on the same level as OAK.
Doesn't take a degree in political science to see how easily you old folks are manipulated. It's because when you were growing up trusting the news and the media was a real thing. You were led to believe that they were telling the truth 100% of the time. As history and technology have advanced, the medias exploitation of the brainwashed masses has become evident. Some have waken up and search out their own information to form opinions on and others, like you old folks here, have double downed and ride the coattails of your past.
  You mean like Joe rogan's podcast  as the true beacon of truth and knowledge. :D :D :D :D :D :D   OKAY.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 02:02:24 PM
     So you are more or less trolling the board then, no big surprise there.

No, I present facts.  I'm just not emotional about them.

You present doctored memes and falsehoods for a majority of your posts.  THAT would be considered trolling, but it's tolerated because anyone following your posts knows you don't really read or watch all the stuff you post, let alone understand them.

But you pass them along like the good little sheep you are.

I mean, look at the post above to chaos.  It's been explained to you countless times that nobody believes Rogan to be an authority on anything outside of MMA/Elk hunting, but people listen to him have discussions with a wide variety of folks on a wide variety of subjects, so they can draw their own conclusions.  It's the way the world is supposed to work.

But you refuse to listen or comprehend that and keep posting the same stupid response.

Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2025, 02:21:19 PM
No, I present facts.  I'm just not emotional about them.

You present doctored memes and falsehoods for a majority of your posts.  THAT would be considered trolling, but it's tolerated because anyone following your posts knows you don't really read or watch all the stuff you post, let alone understand them.

But you pass them along like the good little sheep you are.

I mean, look at the post above to chaos.  It's been explained to you countless times that nobody believes Rogan to be an authority on anything outside of MMA/Elk hunting, but people listen to him have discussions with a wide variety of folks on a wide variety of subjects, so they can draw their own conclusions.  It's the way the world is supposed to work.

But you refuse to listen or comprehend that and keep posting the same stupid response.
   Yeah , you got all the answers, well I had about enough of your nonsense for one day. signing off.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 02:25:44 PM
   Yeah , you got all the answers, well I had about enough of your nonsense for one day. signing off.

I will easily admit I'm wrong if you produce and counter that disproves anything I've said.

I'll even try to help you by telling you in advance that a doctored photo making Trump look fatter or shitting himself doesn't count.

Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: chaos on August 24, 2025, 02:34:18 PM

But you refuse to listen or comprehend that and keep posting the same stupid response.
   Yeah , you got all the answers, well I had about enough of your nonsense for one day. signing off.
Like a child putting his fingers in his ears and doing the "nananana I can't hear you" thing and storming off.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Primemuscle on August 24, 2025, 03:35:40 PM
Eat shit with that response.

Why not just provide examples or a legit counter argument?

I can list real, tangible examples of what happened under the Biden admin.  Stuff that is completely factual and was called out at the time.

Your counter is "see Trumps does it too".

The department of Justice investigates crimes - if the prior admin potentially committed them, is the current admin not supposed to investigate?

Sure, the current administration should investigate potential crimes the previous administration committed, just as the previous administration investigated the potential crimes of the administration that came before theirs. The issue is what is driving the investigations.

Under Donald Trump, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is pursuing investigations against Trump's political rivals, critics, and officials who investigated him. Legal experts condemn these undertakings as the weaponization of the DOJ for political retribution.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 03:44:45 PM
Sure, the current administration should investigate potential crimes the previous administration committed, just as the previous administration investigated the potential crimes of the administration that came before theirs. The issue is what is driving the investigations.

Under Donald Trump, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is pursuing investigations against Trump's political rivals, critics, and officials who investigated him. Legal experts condemn these undertakings as the weaponization of the DOJ for political retribution.

You are ignoring what the gov't agencies did during Russiagate.  They were not merely investigating something.  They used a dossier that they knew was fake to get a FISA warrant.  They knew they had no evidence but were directed to continue.

You are also ignoring the Bragg and James' cases, where a crime was manufactured to fit the person.

If you're interested, I can point you to a specific podcast on Friday which said exactly how the left and you would react to the Bolton stuff.  You all have behaved as predicted.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Primemuscle on August 24, 2025, 04:01:22 PM
You are ignoring what the gov't agencies did during Russiagate.  They were not merely investigating something.  They used a dossier that they knew was fake to get a FISA warrant.  They knew they had no evidence but were directed to continue.

You are also ignoring the Bragg and James' cases, where a crime was manufactured to fit the person.

If you're interested, I can point you to a specific podcast on Friday which said exactly how the left and you would react to the Bolton stuff.  You all have behaved as predicted.

Of course we behaved as predicted. Why would anyone expect otherwise?
I am ignoring nothing.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 05:08:21 PM
Of course we behaved as predicted. Why would anyone expect otherwise?
I am ignoring nothing.

Yes you are.

You are ignoring that those being investigated by Trump have reasonable reasons to be investigated.  You are creating a false equivalent.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Primemuscle on August 24, 2025, 06:24:19 PM
Yes you are.

You are ignoring that those being investigated by Trump have reasonable reasons to be investigated.  You are creating a false equivalent.

In a few months or years, when the "reasonable" reasons to investigate Trump's detractors prove to have been either valid or invalid, a discussion about false equivalents might make sense. However, the real possibility of Trump's involvement in Russian interference in the 2016 election gave reason for an investigation at that time.

Let's take a look at what are reasonable reasons to investigate, by comparing the FBI's recent search for classified documents at the Bolton residence and the FBI search for classified documents at Trump's residence.

On August 22, 2025, the FBI raided the home of John Bolton, as part of a national security investigation into the potential mishandling of classified documents. It has not been confirmed whether or not he possessed classified security documents, so obviously no determination can currently be made as to his maybe having mishandled them. In contrast, on August 8, 2022, when the FBI executed a search warrant at Mar-a Lago, Trump's residence, it was already established that there had been classified documents there because some of them had already been turned over to the FBI. Their suspicion that he had additional ones was confirmed during and following the search.
Title: Re: FBI Raids John Bolton's Home in Classified Documents Probe
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 07:17:04 PM
In a few months or years, when the "reasonable" reasons to investigate Trump's detractors prove to have been either valid or invalid, a discussion about false equivalents might make sense. However, the real possibility of Trump's involvement in Russian interference in the 2016 election gave reason for an investigation at that time.

Let's take a look at what are reasonable reasons to investigate, by comparing the FBI's recent search for classified documents at the Bolton residence and the FBI search for classified documents at Trump's residence.

On August 22, 2025, the FBI raided the home of John Bolton, as part of a national security investigation into the potential mishandling of classified documents. It has not been confirmed whether or not he possessed classified security documents, so obviously no determination can currently be made as to his maybe having mishandled them. In contrast, on August 8, 2022, when the FBI executed a search warrant at Mar-a Lago, Trump's residence, it was already established that there had been classified documents there because some of them had already been turned over to the FBI. Their suspicion that he had additional ones was confirmed during and following the search.

The bolded proves you haven't paid attention to anything.  We are so far beyond that at this point.

Keep your head in the sand.

I'll watch and see how it plays out.