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Asking for a friend:
Lets say you turn religious later in life and find out your wife has been attending the unbiblical denomination of Roman Catholicism her entire life. Seems to me that you must then educate her and convert her to the right religion or divorce if she refuses ???
It's clear to me that catholics are going to hell, but what about protestants who marry a catholic without converting the spouse to protestantism ???
I find that these points make a good case against Roman Catholicism.
20 Essential Truths of the New Testament
No. 1 - The Purposes of Holy Scripture is for the knowledge of salvation: Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11;
2 Tim. 3:15; 2 Pet. 1:21
No. 2 - The Holy Scriptures were inspired by God to teach us all truth: Mark 12:24; John 16:13, 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:14; 2 Pet. 1:19
No. 3 - The Spirit of God teaches us personally through the study of the Scriptures: Matt. 4:4; John 20:30; 2 Cor. 4:3; Heb. 4:12
No. 4 - Man in sin cannot understand the Bible: John 8:47; 1 Cor 2:14; 2 Pet 3:16
No. 5 - We must be under the influence of the Holy Spirit: Luke 24:45; Rom 8:5; 1 Cor 2:9; 1 Cor 2:15; Eph 1:16; 1 John 2:20
No. 6 - Religious traditions are false doctrines: Matthew 15:3; Mark 7:7; Gal 1:8; Col 2:8,20; 1 Timothy 1:3, 6:3; Rev 22:18
No. 7 - God, the one Father and Creator, is ONE with His only Son, Jesus Christ, in a single Spirit who gives life: Matthew 3:16; Matthew 28:19; John 14:26, John 16:13; John 16:27; 2 Cor 13:13; Eph 4:4; Tit 3:4; 1Jn 5:6
No. 8 - Jesus Christ is God from all eternity, Word of God, true God and true man:
Jn 1:1, 1:9, 8:58, 10:30; Col 1:14; 2:8; 1Tim 3:16; Heb 1:5; 1Jn 2:22, 4:15, 5:11, 1Jn 5:20; Rev 1:8
No. 9 - God is the ONLY One who must receive, in the name of Jesus Christ, our worship and prayers: Mt 4:10, 6:9; Jn 14:13; Jn 16:23; Jas 1:5; 1 John 3:22
No. 10 - All men are born in a state of sin and are condemned to eternal death: John 8:21, 15:5;
Rom 2:1, 3:10, 5:12, 6:23, 7:5; 1 Cor 1:19, 15:21; Eph 2:1, 4:17
No. 11 - All sin leads to death, without distinction between venial and mortal sins: Rom 6:23; 1 Cor 6:9; Gal 3:10, 5:19; Jas 2:10; 1 John 3:4 Rev 21:8
No. 12 - Jesus Christ, by dying in our place, made atonement for our sins, and delivers us from the curse of death: Rom 5:6; 2 Cor 5:18; Gal 3:13 Col 2:10; Heb 9:26; 1 Pet 2:24
No. 13 - It is by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ that our souls are purified: Rom 5:1, 5:9, 8:1, 8:29, 8:32-37;
2 Cor 5:1; Eph 1:6; Phil 1:23; Col 1:22, 2:13; Heb 7:25, 9:26; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 John 1:7; Rev 1:6, 7:14
No. 14 - Only Jesus Christ is Savior: nothing else saves us before God, neither gold, nor silver, nor virgins, nor saints, nor angels, nor religious practices: John 10:9, 15:4; Acts 4:12; 1 Timothy 2:5; 1 Pet 1:18
No. 15 - The only mediator between God and men is Jesus Christ: the only high priest, the only intercessor, the only counselor, the only leader, and the only shepherd: John 14:6, John 14:13; Rom 8:33; Eph 2:8, 1 Tim 2:5; Heb 7:24, 9:24; 1 John 2:1
No. 16 - Salvation is free, through faith in Jesus Christ: so whoever believes and obeys the Lord Jesus Christ is justified and saved. John 1:12, 3:16, 3:36, 20:31; Acts 10:43, 16:30; Rom 1:17, 3:23, Rom 5:1; Gal 2:16, 3:11; Ephesians 2:8, Titus 3:4; 1 John 5:10
No. 17 To attain salvation, man must confess his sins and ask God for forgiveness: Matthew 12:36;
Luke 11:2, 18:13; Acts 2:38, 8:22; Rom. 14:12; 2 Corinthians 5:19-21; 1 Pet. 1:18, 1 John 2:1-2
No. 18 - The doctrine of salvation by works is unbiblical. Salvation cannot be bought. It is a gift from God: Matthew 19:25; Luke 17:10; Rom. 3:19, 11:6; Gal. 2:16, 3:10; Gal. 5:4; Eph. 2:8
No. 19 - True faith naturally generates good works through the Holy Spirit: Rom. 6:5; Gal. 5:6; Eph. 2:8; Tit 2:13; Heb 11:6; Jas 2:14; 1 Jn 2:4/by obedience: Gal 5:16, 5:22, Eph 4:24, 5:8; Jas 1:16
No. 20 Jesus will return for the elect: Jn 12:26, 14:3, 14:18
1 Th 4:14
AND EVERYTHING WILL BE JUDGED: MT 12:36, 16:27, RM 2:5, 14:10; 1 Co 4:5; 2 Tim 4:1; Re 20:12-15
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Asking for a friend:
Lets say you turn religious later in life and find out your wife has been attending the unbiblical denomination of Roman Catholicism her entire life. Seems to me that you must then educate her and convert her to the right religion or divorce if she refuses ???
It's clear to me that catholics are going to hell, but what about protestants who marry a catholic without converting the spouse to protestantism ???
It’s clear? lol
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It’s clear? lol
Very.
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Sounds like your friend has yet to actually turn religious.
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Sounds like your friend has yet to actually turn religious.
It may well sound that way to a pagan.
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It may well sound that way to a pagan.
you don't know what I am nor yourself either.
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I don't know about this but I read Charlie Kirk was a protestant but had been attending Catholic mass with his wife... whatever that means ???
What kind of Christian is Tucker Carlson? I read something that he had on an Orthodox priest on his show now who said you shouldn't comment much about what Kirk's death means until 40 days has passed...
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you don't know what I am nor yourself either.
I know you are a retard who bores the fuck out of me with his low iq nonsense. Dumbass meathead is really all you'll ever be.
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I don't know about this but I read Charlie Kirk was a protestant but had been attending Catholic mass with his wife... whatever that means ???
What kind of Christian is Tucker Carlson? I read something that he had on an Orthodox priest on his show now who said you shouldn't comment much about what Kirk's death means until 40 days has passed...
Thanks for sharing that info. It means that he was a beta male who was controlled by a woman and therefore indirectly by Satan. Big if true.
Did not look into Tucker. But there are many who belong to a biblically sound denomonation, yet do not live it. For example the topic of submitting your wife. Many follow the path of least resistance and dress up cowardice as enlightenment.
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I know you are a retard who bores the fuck out of me with his low iq nonsense. Dumbass meathead is really all you'll ever be.
A religious man should not so easily get bored, a Christian should practice patience and good will, what traits have you displayed here? You come across as a very arrogant buffoon, you have no idea the depth of my spiritual journey in this lifetime, none.
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A religious man should not so easily get bored, a Christian should practice patience and good will, what traits have you displayed here? You come across as a very arrogant buffoon, you have no idea the depth of my spiritual journey in this lifetime, none.
Sorry I don't debate retards, it was just an insult but you arent getting anything more from me.
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Sorry I don't debate retards, it was just an insult but you arent getting anything more from me.
I read the bible and all philosophy at a young age, I could debate with both intelligence and gracefulness all night long but your an evil coward, anyone who says my ancestors and native people are all going to hell or in hell because of their faith? Fuck you.
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Retards should really be contained to a special board ;D
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Retards should really be contained to a special board ;D
fucking gimmick your no Christian boy.
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Mods please ban “Unwieldy”.
It’s LurkerNoMore/Beakdoctor.
He’s a mentally insane bitch with tiny hands
(and a small dick)
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Very.
And whose call is that? Yours?
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I don't know about this but I read Charlie Kirk was a protestant but had been attending Catholic mass with his wife... whatever that means ???
What kind of Christian is Tucker Carlson? I read something that he had on an Orthodox priest on his show now who said you shouldn't comment much about what Kirk's death means until 40 days has passed...
He converted to Catholicism not long before he was shot. He and his wife either already did or was about to be remarried in the Church and Charlie baptized into the Catholic Church.
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so do you reckon the proddy god had him shot for going over to the papists?
its like a soap opera this religion thing
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He converted to Catholicism not long before he was shot. He and his wife either already did or was about to be remarried in the Church and Charlie baptized into the Catholic Church.
Ok, thanks. Whatever it means.
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Thanks for sharing that info. It means that he was a beta male who was controlled by a woman and therefore indirectly by Satan. Big if true.
Did not look into Tucker. But there are many who belong to a biblically sound denomonation, yet do not live it. For example the topic of submitting your wife. Many follow the path of least resistance and dress up cowardice as enlightenment.
Charlie Kirk was a powerful man and you are no one.
You don’t even have a rep on GB like Ro or even me.
You are just the newest delusional idiot to bumble into the board.
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Retards should really be contained to a special board ;D
They are. The special board is called getbig
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Does Unwieldy have hydraulic car lifts in his garage?
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Ok, thanks. Whatever it means.
In short, it’s adhering to the seven sacraments of the Holy Eucharist with a focus on Mother Mary (the mother of Jesus). Converting means accepting her as the Mother of God and a spiritual mother who prays for us, not as a rival to Christ but as His greatest disciple.
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Mods please ban “Unwieldy”.
It’s LurkerNoMore/Beakdoctor.
He’s a mentally insane bitch with tiny hands
(and a small dick)
A swing and a miss. Again. Now run back and post your little hand fetish picture a dozen times on here.
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Asking for a friend:
Lets say you turn religious later in life and find out your wife has been attending the unbiblical denomination of Roman Catholicism her entire life. Seems to me that you must then educate her and convert her to the right religion or divorce if she refuses ???
It's clear to me that catholics are going to hell, but what about protestants who marry a catholic without converting the spouse to protestantism ???
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didn't have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they interact with others for the rest of their life. They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exaggeratly for attention (Hello Goodrum), and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They're insecure because they're girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunately they can get as big as they can but it doesn't cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They're not as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they don't know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back through various manly activities (MMA, cars, weight lifting etc.).
They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males, will go the steroids route to get even "bigger", attempting to cure their insecurity, but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didn't have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
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fucking gimmick your no Christian boy.
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Charlie Kirk was a powerful man and you are no one.
You don’t even have a rep on GB like Ro or even me.
You are just the newest delusional idiot to bumble into the board.
And now he is in hell
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Never get married, save and grow your money so you can retire early and sleep with young women until you're 70. And never be a believer in any religion.
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Never get married, save and grow your money so you can retire early and sleep with young women until you're 70. And never be a believer in any religion.
It sounds good, but does it stand up to scrutiny? How much money does one need for those things you mention?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700989.0;attach=1572502;image)
it must be amazing to be pedantic, petulant , picky and pompous all at the same time
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it must be amazing to be pedantic, petulant , picky and pompous all at the same time
Take it easy.
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Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didn't have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they interact with others for the rest of their life. They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exaggeratly for attention (Hello Goodrum), and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They're insecure because they're girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunately they can get as big as they can but it doesn't cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They're not as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they don't know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back through various manly activities (MMA, cars, weight lifting etc.).
They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males, will go the steroids route to get even "bigger", attempting to cure their insecurity, but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didn't have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
That is correct and I don't lift weights, nor do I pursue MMA, fast cars etc.
I enjoy taking naps and eating instead during my free time
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Somewhat relevant to this thread ;D ;D ;D
(Guy jumps on hype train of one cult movement and after 1 week wants to leave his gf)
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Asking for a friend:
Lets say you turn religious later in life and find out your wife has been attending the unbiblical denomination of Roman Catholicism her entire life. Seems to me that you must then educate her and convert her to the right religion or divorce if she refuses ???
It's clear to me that catholics are going to hell, but what about protestants who marry a catholic without converting the spouse to protestantism ???
What’s the difference between the two really? I don’t know. Catholics use a non King James Version bible right? I know a bit about why Martin Luther broke away from Catholic Church but anyway, not sure why they end up in hell. Can you elaborate?
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And now he is in hell
And again, whose call is that? Yours?
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What’s the difference between the two really? I don’t know. Catholics use a non King James Version bible right? I know a bit about why Martin Luther broke away from Catholic Church but anyway, not sure why they end up in hell. Can you elaborate?
There have been volumes written on this topic. But just some simple things:
-Catholics constantly make up random shit and claim it is oral tradition handed over to them from the apostles and they give those made up traditions the same level of authority as the holy scriptures.
-Catholics worhip Mary and claim she is the intermediary between man and God while this goes directly against what scripture says
-Catholics claim that the pope is a direct successor of the apostle Peter and that he is infallible
Tons of other insane shit
Regarding KJV, it's historically been a great and respected translation. But there is a US based movement of hard retards who believe that the KJV is the highest and infallible authority. (Superior to even original manuscripts). KjV vontinues to be used across all denominations. But people who care about accuracy usually use critical text based modern translations nowadays.
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For when they die, both of them might consider such graves. One located in the protestant cemetery, the other in the katholic part. And two tall gravestones shaking hands:
(https://historiek.net/wp-content/uploads-phistor1/2020/05/dd-2020.05.03.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_with_the_Hands
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This topic is at the forefront of my mind with increasing intensity. I really feel a very strong compulsion to follow through on this. Thoughts?
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This is the woman you married because you love her, learn more about how Jesus loved people, seeing the real person and soul within and not condemning people because of exteriors which are not even important to God compared to where the heart is at.
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And again, whose call is that? Yours?
Don't engage with such an asshole.
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Roman catholicism is a paganised version of Christianity.
They pray to and worship people such as Mary, Joseph and 'saints'.
Their sect follows ideas which are not listed in any translation of the Bible, such as priests not being allowed to marry, confession, worshipping Mary and venerating idols.
In summary, they are idolaters.
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Roman catholicism is a paganised version of Christianity.
They pray to and worship people such as Mary, Joseph and 'saints'.
Their sect follows ideas which are not listed in any translation of the Bible, such as priests not being allowed to marry, confession, worshipping Mary and venerating idols.
In summary, they are idolaters.
it is the depth of the faith that matters more than all your weighty concerns. Jesus is still central to Catholics.
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Roman catholicism is a paganised version of Christianity.
They pray to and worship people such as Mary, Joseph and 'saints'.
Their sect follows ideas which are not listed in any translation of the Bible, such as priests not being allowed to marry, confession, worshipping Mary and venerating idols.
In summary, they are idolaters.
No Catholic Church, no bible, read some Church Fathers while you`re at it...
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No Catholic Church, no bible, read some Church Fathers while you`re at it...
Collections of these Christian texts existed before Roman catholicism.
Protestant Christian and catholic bibles do not have the same collection of texts.
The catholics added their own ideas which do not exist in any of these texts.
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Wrong, protestants removed books of the bible and altered some texts even (Luther for example), the orthodox and catholics are stemming from same tradition, protestants do only that, protest the Church and its authority making up bogus stuff and lies on the teaching of the Church.
Even more, canonization of the texts of the bible was done by the Catholic Church yet protestants have no objection to that. Protestantism is a religion of self, no magisterium, no authority, no tradition, ignoring what the bible actually teaches and says, interpreting each text freely as you go, denomination by denomination, pastor after pastor, fracturing more and more...
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Wrong, protestants removed books of the bible and altered some texts even (Luther for example), the orthodox and catholics are stemming from same tradition, protestants do only that, protest the Church and its authority making up bogus stuff and lies on the teaching of the Church.
Even more, canonization of the texts of the bible was done by the Catholic Church yet protestants have no objection to that. Protestantism is a religion of self, no magisterium, no authority, no tradition, ignoring what the bible actually teaches and says, interpreting each text freely as you go, denomination by denomination, pastor after pastor, fracturing more and more...
Book of Enoch
Interesting stuff
https://pastorvlad.org/enoch/
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Book of Enoch
Interesting stuff
https://pastorvlad.org/enoch/
These angels see the earth’s women as beautiful, so they decide to leave their heavenly home to marry them. The angels now on earth teach humans various forbidden knowledge and crafts, which lead to warfare, sorcery, and all other sins. This angel and human union produce a hybrid offspring called Nephilim, who are giants that bring havoc on this earth and consume humans alive, leading to widespread despair.
Sounds legit.
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Should be noted that Protestants favoured the Hebrew Old Testament and the catholics the later Greek version which included an extra 7 books. Luther didn't exclude them but put them in a different section. However, some Protestant Bibles today exclude them and they are compiled in a separate book called The Apocrypha.
Also, catholics argument against Luther is on a single word used in his German translation of Greek but which isn't used in any other Protestant translation of other languages.
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Catholics and Protestants should join together for yet another Crusade.
Imagine the Western World (NorthAmerica/Canada, Europe) without any Africans or Middle-Easterners.
Old Jewess of Peace
(https://iili.io/K0VgW1R.png)
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Roman catholicism is a paganised version of Christianity.
They pray to and worship people such as Mary, Joseph and 'saints'.
Their sect follows ideas which are not listed in any translation of the Bible, such as priests not being allowed to marry, confession, worshipping Mary and venerating idols.
In summary, they are idolaters.
No Protestants without first having Catholics.
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No Protestants without first having Catholics.
The original Christians weren't catholic either.
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The original Christians weren't catholic either.
Gnostics?
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Gnostics?
Yes. During the Roman Empire there were various sects such as Arianism, Nestorianism, Donatists etc.
For instance Constanine's son Constantius was Arian.
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Lots of heresies but not prevailing, they died off or went into obscure. Members of the Church, christians were not agnostic, unity was always important including hierarchy of the Chruch itself, bishops etc. St. Ignatius of Antioch, Church Fathers letters are nice exapmple of it - https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=3836
Catholic only means universal in end, some orthodox call themselves catholic too.
https://www.ecatholic2000.com/ Here you can read about the faith, the Church including catechism, Church Fathers, history etc.
People don`t read enough and consequently confusion as well as ignorance are abundant nowadays...
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I find that these points make a good case against Roman Catholicism.
20 Essential Truths of the New Testament
No. 1 - The Purposes of Holy Scripture is for the knowledge of salvation: Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11;
2 Tim. 3:15; 2 Pet. 1:21
No. 2 - The Holy Scriptures were inspired by God to teach us all truth: Mark 12:24; John 16:13, 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:14; 2 Pet. 1:19
No. 3 - The Spirit of God teaches us personally through the study of the Scriptures: Matt. 4:4; John 20:30; 2 Cor. 4:3; Heb. 4:12
No. 4 - Man in sin cannot understand the Bible: John 8:47; 1 Cor 2:14; 2 Pet 3:16
No. 5 - We must be under the influence of the Holy Spirit: Luke 24:45; Rom 8:5; 1 Cor 2:9; 1 Cor 2:15; Eph 1:16; 1 John 2:20
No. 6 - Religious traditions are false doctrines: Matthew 15:3; Mark 7:7; Gal 1:8; Col 2:8,20; 1 Timothy 1:3, 6:3; Rev 22:18
No. 7 - God, the one Father and Creator, is ONE with His only Son, Jesus Christ, in a single Spirit who gives life: Matthew 3:16; Matthew 28:19; John 14:26, John 16:13; John 16:27; 2 Cor 13:13; Eph 4:4; Tit 3:4; 1Jn 5:6
No. 8 - Jesus Christ is God from all eternity, Word of God, true God and true man:
Jn 1:1, 1:9, 8:58, 10:30; Col 1:14; 2:8; 1Tim 3:16; Heb 1:5; 1Jn 2:22, 4:15, 5:11, 1Jn 5:20; Rev 1:8
No. 9 - God is the ONLY One who must receive, in the name of Jesus Christ, our worship and prayers: Mt 4:10, 6:9; Jn 14:13; Jn 16:23; Jas 1:5; 1 John 3:22
No. 10 - All men are born in a state of sin and are condemned to eternal death: John 8:21, 15:5;
Rom 2:1, 3:10, 5:12, 6:23, 7:5; 1 Cor 1:19, 15:21; Eph 2:1, 4:17
No. 11 - All sin leads to death, without distinction between venial and mortal sins: Rom 6:23; 1 Cor 6:9; Gal 3:10, 5:19; Jas 2:10; 1 John 3:4 Rev 21:8
No. 12 - Jesus Christ, by dying in our place, made atonement for our sins, and delivers us from the curse of death: Rom 5:6; 2 Cor 5:18; Gal 3:13 Col 2:10; Heb 9:26; 1 Pet 2:24
No. 13 - It is by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ that our souls are purified: Rom 5:1, 5:9, 8:1, 8:29, 8:32-37;
2 Cor 5:1; Eph 1:6; Phil 1:23; Col 1:22, 2:13; Heb 7:25, 9:26; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 John 1:7; Rev 1:6, 7:14
No. 14 - Only Jesus Christ is Savior: nothing else saves us before God, neither gold, nor silver, nor virgins, nor saints, nor angels, nor religious practices: John 10:9, 15:4; Acts 4:12; 1 Timothy 2:5; 1 Pet 1:18
No. 15 - The only mediator between God and men is Jesus Christ: the only high priest, the only intercessor, the only counselor, the only leader, and the only shepherd: John 14:6, John 14:13; Rom 8:33; Eph 2:8, 1 Tim 2:5; Heb 7:24, 9:24; 1 John 2:1
No. 16 - Salvation is free, through faith in Jesus Christ: so whoever believes and obeys the Lord Jesus Christ is justified and saved. John 1:12, 3:16, 3:36, 20:31; Acts 10:43, 16:30; Rom 1:17, 3:23, Rom 5:1; Gal 2:16, 3:11; Ephesians 2:8, Titus 3:4; 1 John 5:10
No. 17 To attain salvation, man must confess his sins and ask God for forgiveness: Matthew 12:36;
Luke 11:2, 18:13; Acts 2:38, 8:22; Rom. 14:12; 2 Corinthians 5:19-21; 1 Pet. 1:18, 1 John 2:1-2
No. 18 - The doctrine of salvation by works is unbiblical. Salvation cannot be bought. It is a gift from God: Matthew 19:25; Luke 17:10; Rom. 3:19, 11:6; Gal. 2:16, 3:10; Gal. 5:4; Eph. 2:8
No. 19 - True faith naturally generates good works through the Holy Spirit: Rom. 6:5; Gal. 5:6; Eph. 2:8; Tit 2:13; Heb 11:6; Jas 2:14; 1 Jn 2:4/by obedience: Gal 5:16, 5:22, Eph 4:24, 5:8; Jas 1:16
No. 20 Jesus will return for the elect: Jn 12:26, 14:3, 14:18
1 Th 4:14
AND EVERYTHING WILL BE JUDGED: MT 12:36, 16:27, RM 2:5, 14:10; 1 Co 4:5; 2 Tim 4:1; Re 20:12-15
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You're really hung up on this.
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This topic is at the forefront of my mind with increasing intensity. I really feel a very strong compulsion to follow through on this. Thoughts?
You're really hung up on this.
Great observation skills.
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Both sides of my family don’t care whether someone is Catholic or Protestant.
It’s often way too similar to give a damn here in the USA.
My father’s ex wife is some form of German Protestant and I’d go to that church on some Sundays.
The Greek churches I’ve been too were a better example of it being different. I only go to those for my brother’s wife or this food festival I go to.
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Both sides of my family don’t care whether someone is Catholic or Protestant.
It’s often way too similar to give a damn here in the USA.
My father’s ex wife is some form of German Protestant and I’d go to that church on some Sundays.
The Greek churches I’ve been too were a better example of it being different. I only go to those for my brother’s wife or this food festival I go to.
If they don't care it just means they don't care about their family burning in hell. I can see that being common.
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If they don't care it just means they don't care about their family burning in hell. I can see that being common.
You are delusional.
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You are delusional.
Pot calling kettle black.
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Pot calling kettle black.
You do not understand Christs message about the Kingdom of God.
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You do not understand Christs message about the Kingdom of God.
I presented a lot of points with references. You have only presented feelings and delusions. You are not just dumb, you are also a lazy son of a bitch.
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You`re lost in your own world of self authority and lack of knowledge of the faith since protestants lack the fullness of said faith.
It is an extremely strange, schizophrenic thinking even to use the texts that the Catholic Church canonized (which teaches in accordance with the scriptures through its magisterium), put together to prove how the same Church is not the one, true Church.
It is the gospel that you, according to your limited knowledge interpret as you please, resulting in errors and neverending heresies.
The sheer amount of hatred towards the Catholic Church that comes from the protestant side is astounding but is also understandable taking into consideration the centuries of lies...
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You`re lost in your own world of self authority and lack of knowledge of the faith since protestants lack the fullness of said faith.
It is an extremely strange, schizophrenic thinking even to use the texts that the Catholic Church canonized (which teaches in accordance with the scriptures through its magisterium), put together to prove how the same Church is not the one, true Church.
It is the gospel that you, according to your limited knowledge interpret as you please, resulting in errors and neverending heresies.
The sheer amount of hatred towards the Catholic Church that comes from the protestant side is astounding but is also understandable taking into consideration the centuries of lies...
Retard
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I presented a lot of points with references. You have only presented feelings and delusions. You are not just dumb, you are also a lazy son of a bitch.
Points with references? no you did not, now your sounding delusional. Look in the mirror and repeat what you just said to me and ask yourself do I sound like a good Christian???
Not one word from Jesus himself in the gospels supports your hatred for Catholics, maybe you should divorce your wife.
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Retard
I suggest you work on your virtues for starters...
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Points with references? no you did not, now your sounding delusional. Look in the mirror and repeat what you just said to me and ask yourself do I sound like a good Christian???
Not one word from Jesus himself in the gospels supports your hatred for Catholics, maybe you should divorce your wife.
Dumb guy, do you gave the capacity to read? I posted 20 points with extensive references
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Not from Jesus words.
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You're really hung up on this.
Thats how his wife will find him.
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Thats how his wife will find him.
Kill yourself, retard, and join the billions of catholics in hell.
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You sound like the devil to me. Take the plank out of your own eye first.
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if you find god, please fuck him.
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Kill yourself, retard, and join the billions of catholics in hell.
Very Christian of you. ;D
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Interesting thread...oh boy lol
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You sound like the devil to me. Take the plank out of your own eye first.
If I were the Devil you would be worshipping me, you filthy heretic
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Very Christian of you. ;D
Thanks for noticing that friend
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If I were the Devil you would be worshipping me, you filthy heretic
My love is only for God. You come across as someone with a very shallow prayer life.
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My love is only for God. You come across as someone with a very shallow prayer life.
Just shut the fuck up already, your retardation is showing hard. Stick to what you know (injecting drugs and overloading your body)
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Just shut the fuck up already, your retardation is showing hard. Stick to what you know (injecting drugs and overloading your body)
you don't even train you fat fuck or even tend to the garden of your mind your a garbage human being.
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you don't even train you fat fuck or even tend to the garden of your mind your a garbage human being.
Classic case of a dumbass roidpig high on his own delusions.
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Classic case of a dumbass roidpig high on his own delusions.
I am not on anything, but you don't get off the couch like a fat pig, I wonder what is bigger your head or your massive Puritans gut.
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In short, it’s adhering to the seven sacraments of the Holy Eucharist with a focus on Mother Mary (the mother of Jesus). Converting means accepting her as the Mother of God and a spiritual mother who prays for us, not as a rival to Christ but as His greatest disciple.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say any of that.
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say any of that.
When a Protestant converts to Catholicism, it signifies a profound spiritual and ecclesial transition into full communion with the Catholic Church. Theologically, this means recognizing the Catholic Church as the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church founded by Jesus Christ, and accepting its full deposit of faith, including the authority of the Pope, the Magisterium, and the seven sacraments. It involves a conversion of heart, embracing Catholic doctrine on topics like the Eucharist (real presence), Mary, saints, and purgatory, which may differ from Protestant beliefs. This reception restores or establishes complete unity with the visible Church, allowing full participation in its life and sacraments, while acknowledging the validity of the Protestant’s prior baptism (if Trinitarian and properly administered).  This is not seen as a rejection of one’s Protestant heritage but as a fulfillment of Christian unity, as the Church views baptized Protestants as separated brethren sharing in Christ’s Body through baptism. 
From a Catholic perspective, conversion is an act of grace, responding to God’s call for unity (John 17:21). It emphasizes personal faith renewal and integration into the Church’s communal worship and mission.  The Catechism of the Catholic Church underscores ecumenism and the desire for full visible unity among Christians.
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When a Protestant converts to Catholicism, accepting the Catholic understanding of Mary, the Mother of God, is a significant aspect of embracing the fullness of Catholic doctrine. Mary’s role is deeply tied to the sacraments, particularly the Eucharist, and her importance in Catholic theology can be a point of adjustment for converts, as many Protestant traditions view her with less emphasis or differently. Below, I’ll explain Mary’s role in the context of conversion and the sacraments, especially the Eucharist
In Catholic teaching, Mary is venerated (not worshiped) as the Mother of God (Theotokos, Council of Ephesus, 431 AD) because she bore Jesus Christ, who is fully God and fully man (Catechism of the Catholic Church, CCC 495). She is seen as the New Eve, whose obedience to God’s will (Luke 1:38, “Let it be done to me according to your word”) cooperated in humanity’s redemption through Christ (Lumen Gentium, no. 56). Her unique role includes:
• Immaculate Conception: Mary was conceived without original sin, preserved by God’s grace to be a fitting vessel for Christ (CCC 491–492, Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus, 1854).
• Perpetual Virginity: She remained a virgin before, during, and after Jesus’ birth (CCC 499–500).
• Assumption: She was taken body and soul into heaven at the end of her earthly life (CCC 966, Pius XII, Munificentissimus Deus, 1950).
• Mediatrix and Advocate: Mary intercedes for humanity, presenting prayers to her Son (CCC 969, Lumen Gentium, no. 62).
For a Protestant converting to Catholicism, accepting these doctrines is part of the profession of faith, as they reflect the Church’s understanding of salvation history. Many Protestants may view Mary as a holy figure but reject or are unfamiliar with these dogmas, seeing them as excessive or unbiblical. Catholic teaching counters that Mary’s role is scriptural (e.g., John 19:26–27, where Jesus entrusts her to the Church) and magnifies Christ, not competes with Him (Lumen Gentium, no. 60). Converts are catechized on Mary through the Order of Christian Initiation of Adults (OCIA), often finding her intercessory role a bridge to deeper devotion. [11] [21]
Mary and the Sacraments
Mary’s connection to the sacraments lies in her role as the Mother of Christ, who instituted them. She is not a sacrament herself but is intimately linked to their spiritual fruit, especially in:
• Baptism: As the model of faith, Mary’s “fiat” (Luke 1:38) exemplifies the surrender required in baptism, where one dies to sin and rises with Christ (CCC 537). Converts, already baptized, reflect on her as the first disciple.
• Confirmation: Mary received the Holy Spirit at Pentecost with the apostles (Acts 1:14), modeling openness to the Spirit’s gifts, which confirmation strengthens (CCC 1289).
• Eucharist: Mary’s deepest sacramental tie is to the Eucharist, as she gave Christ His human body, which becomes present in the Eucharist (see below).
• Other Sacraments: In Penance, Mary’s sinlessness inspires contrition; in Matrimony, her fidelity reflects the Church’s union with Christ; in Holy Orders and Anointing, her maternal care mirrors the Church’s nurturing role.
Mary and the Holy Eucharist
The Eucharist, as the real presence of Jesus’ Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity (CCC 1374), has a special connection to Mary because she is the mother who provided Christ’s human nature. Catholic theology highlights:
• Incarnation and Eucharist: Just as Mary’s womb carried Jesus, the Eucharist makes Him present in the tabernacle and at Mass. Pope John Paul II, in Ecclesia de Eucharistia (2003, no. 55), wrote, “In the Eucharist, the Church is completely united to Christ through Mary,” as her consent enabled the Incarnation, which the Eucharist perpetuates. [11]
• Mary at the Cross: At the Crucifixion (John 19:25–27), Mary stood by Jesus, uniting her suffering to His sacrifice, which the Eucharist re-presents. She is thus a model for Eucharistic devotion, participating in Christ’s offering.
• Eucharistic Adoration: Catholics often pray to Mary (e.g., the Rosary) before the Blessed Sacrament, seeking her intercession to draw closer to her Son. The Catechism (CCC 2679) notes that Mary leads believers to the Eucharist.
For converts, accepting the Eucharist’s real presence often involves embracing Mary’s role, as her “yes” to God made the Incarnation—and thus the Eucharist—possible. This can be a shift from Protestant views, which may not connect Mary to communion or emphasize her intercessory role.
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Mary is central to Catholicism because she points to Jesus, especially in the Eucharist, where her Son is truly present. Converting means accepting her as the Mother of God and a spiritual mother who prays for us, not as a rival to Christ but as His greatest disciple.
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Did Peter “Build” the First Catholic Church?
The idea that “Peter built the first Catholic Church” requires nuance:
• Peter’s Role in Founding the Church: Peter did not “build” the Church in the sense of creating it from scratch, as Christ is the true founder (Catechism, 424, 552). However, Peter was entrusted with a foundational leadership role. After Pentecost (Acts 2), Peter emerged as the leader of the early Christian community, preaching, baptizing, and organizing the nascent Church in Jerusalem and beyond (Acts 2:14–41, 10:1–48). His ministry helped establish the Church as the community of believers, which Catholics identify as the early Catholic Church.
• Historical Context: The term “Catholic” (meaning “universal”) was first used by St. Ignatius of Antioch around 107 AD to describe the Church (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8:2). While Peter did not establish a formal institution called the “Catholic Church,” Catholic tradition holds that he was the first pope, leading the Church in Rome, where he was martyred (circa 64–67 AD). The Diocese of Rome, under Peter’s leadership, became the central see of the Church, and his successors (the popes) continued his role (Catechism, 880–882).
• Peter’s Ministry in Rome: Catholic tradition, supported by early Church writings (e.g., St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 3.3.2, circa 180 AD), holds that Peter was the first bishop of Rome. His presence and martyrdom there established Rome as the apostolic see, giving it primacy in the Church. This is why the pope, as the Bishop of Rome, is considered Peter’s successor.
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Jesus Was Not a Socialist
The left often points to Jesus’ teachings on charity and communal living (e.g., Acts 2:44-45) to claim He endorsed socialism. However, His teachings emphasize voluntary charity and personal responsibility, not state-enforced redistribution or collective ownership. Key scriptures include:
1. Render to Caesar (Matthew 22:15-22)
• Scripture: “Then repay to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God.”
• Context: Jesus distinguishes between civic duties and spiritual obligations, implying a separation of earthly governance and divine authority. He does not advocate for state-controlled wealth redistribution but acknowledges legitimate authority. Catholic social teaching (e.g., Rerum Novarum, 1891) emphasizes private property rights and subsidiarity, opposing socialist collectivism.
2. Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14-30)
• Scripture: “To one he gave five talents; to another, two; to a third, one—to each according to his ability… The one who had received five talents went and traded with them, and made another five… But the one who received one talent… hid his master’s money… [The master said,] ‘You wicked, lazy servant!’”
• Context: This parable praises initiative, stewardship, and unequal outcomes based on individual effort, while condemning sloth. It aligns with Catholic teaching on personal responsibility and the right to use one’s talents and property, contrary to socialist egalitarianism.
3. Voluntary Charity, Not Coercion (Luke 21:1-4)
• Scripture: “When he looked up he saw… a poor widow putting in two small coins. He said, ‘…This poor widow put in more than all the rest; for… she, from her poverty, has offered her whole livelihood.’”
• Context: Jesus praises the widow’s voluntary sacrifice, not a mandated contribution. Catholic teaching (CCC 2401-2406) emphasizes charity as a personal virtue, not a state-imposed system. Socialism’s forced redistribution conflicts with this principle.
4. Private Property in Acts (Acts 5:1-4)
• Scripture: “Peter said to [Ananias], ‘…While [your property] remained unsold, did it not remain yours? And when it was sold, was it not still under your control?’”
• Context: Early Christians shared goods voluntarily, but Peter affirms Ananias’ right to his property, condemning his deceit, not his ownership. This supports Catholic teaching on private property (Centesimus Annus, 1991) against socialist collectivism.
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Physical Description from the Shroud
The Shroud offers a detailed image of a man, interpreted by Catholics as consistent with Jesus’ Passion. Key findings about his description include:
1. Physical Build:
• Height and Frame: The man is approximately 5 feet 11 inches to 6 feet 1 inch tall (based on image measurements), with a lean but muscular build, consistent with a physically active man in his 30s, as Jesus is described (Luke 3:23, ~30 years old at ministry’s start).
• Significance: The height is taller than the average 1st-century Jewish male (~5 feet 5 inches), but plausible for a Galilean. Catholic tradition doesn’t emphasize height but sees the Shroud’s proportions as fitting a real human, not an artistic ideal. [11]
2. Facial Features:
• Face and Beard: The image shows a bearded man with long hair, possibly tied in a ponytail, and a forked beard, aligning with Jewish male customs of the 1st century (Leviticus 19:27). The face has high cheekbones, a straight nose, and closed eyes, suggesting death.
• Significance: Matches early Christian iconography (e.g., Byzantine images) and Catholic depictions of Jesus, reinforcing the Shroud’s influence on sacred art. No Gospel describes Jesus’ face, but the Shroud’s image is seen as consistent with tradition. [21]
3. Wounds and Injuries:
• Crucifixion Marks: Nail wounds in the wrists (not palms, as per anatomical studies) and feet, consistent with Roman crucifixion (John 20:25–27). Blood stains (type AB, per STURP) show rigor mortis and post-mortem flow.
• Scourging: Over 100 whip marks with dumbbell-shaped wounds, matching Roman flagrum (Matthew 27:26).
• Crown of Thorns: Scalp punctures (~30–40) suggest a cap-like crown, unique to Jesus’ Passion (John 19:2).
• Side Wound: A lance wound between the 5th and 6th ribs, with blood and watery fluid, aligns with John 19:34.
• Significance: The wounds corroborate Gospel accounts of Jesus’ Passion, supporting Catholic teaching on His suffering (CCC 617). The Shroud’s forensic detail (e.g., wrist nailing) corrects medieval art, showing historical accuracy. [11]
4. Other Features:
• No Decomposition: The image shows no signs of decay, suggesting the body was removed within 36–48 hours, consistent with Jesus’ burial and Resurrection timeline (Matthew 28:1–6).
• Pollen and Soil: Traces of Jerusalem-region pollen (e.g., Gundelia tournefortii, possibly in the crown of thorns) and limestone consistent with Jerusalem tombs link the Shroud to 1st-century Judea. [21]
Archaeological and Scientific Support
While the Shroud itself is an artifact, its study intersects with archaeology and biblical history:
• Textile Analysis: The herringbone weave matches 1st-century Syrian linens, not common in medieval Europe. Recent studies (e.g., 2019 X-ray dating) suggest a 1st-century origin, challenging the 1988 carbon-14 results (possibly skewed by repairs). [11]
• Image Formation: The image is a superficial negative (only on the cloth’s top fibers), not paint, with 3D properties (per VP-8 Image Analyzer, 1976). No known medieval technology could produce it, suggesting an unknown process, which some Catholics tie to the Resurrection (CCC 645 on Christ’s glorified body).
• Crucifixion Evidence: The Shroud’s wounds align with the Yehohanan Heel Bone (1968, Jerusalem), a 1st-century crucified man’s remains, confirming wrist nailing and other details. [21]
• Biblical Context: Artifacts like the Pontius Pilate Inscription (1961) and Caiaphas Ossuary (1990) verify Gospel figures, grounding the Passion narrative. The Shroud’s details (e.g., crown of thorns, side wound) match specific Gospel accounts, unlike typical crucifixions.
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Joseph ploughed Mary many times he had alot of brothers and sisters it is in the bible.
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Catholicism is very appealing to the intellectually lazy and incapable, who are at the same time being extremely arrogant. BigRo is the posterboy for that crowd.
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Once again, nowhere in the Bible does it mention any of that about Mary.
Jesus had siblings, it says so in the New Testament, so Mary was not a virgin all her life.
The Shroud of Turin has been proven to be a forgery, some claim it was made by Leonardo da Vinci and depicts his own face.
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Catholicism is very appealing to the intellectually lazy and incapable, who are at the same time being extremely arrogant. BigRo is the posterboy for that crowd.
I am not a formal Catholic or anything, you are
the arrogant one and don't sound Christian at all.
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I am not a formal Catholic or anything, you are
the arrogant one and don't sound Christian at all.
I know, you are just some dumbass poser pretending to be some deep spiritual warrior monk.
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Situation seems unwieldy.
Any religious matters should be mailed to BigRo, he is Getbigs resident spiritual warrior monk.
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Once again, nowhere in the Bible does it mention any of that about Mary.
Jesus had siblings, it says so in the New Testament, so Mary was not a virgin all her life.
The Shroud of Turin has been proven to be a forgery, some claim it was made by Leonardo da Vinci and depicts his own face.
The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was a virgin her entire life, a belief called her perpetual virginity, which is supported by Scripture and early Christian Tradition. The New Testament mentions Jesus’ ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’ (like in Mark 6:3), but in biblical Greek, these terms—adelphoi and adelphai—often mean extended family, like cousins or close relatives, not necessarily biological siblings.
For example, in Genesis 13:8, Abraham and Lot are called ‘brothers’ but are uncle and nephew. The Church points out that no passage explicitly says Mary had other children, and early Christians, like the Church Fathers, consistently taught her virginity. This fits with her role as the Mother of God, totally dedicated to Jesus, which we see in her presence at the Cross (John 19:25–27) and her connection to the Eucharist, as we discussed. I’d love to explore this more if you’re curious—maybe check out the Catechism or a Catholic Bible commentary!”
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The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was a virgin her entire life, a belief called her perpetual virginity, which is supported by Scripture and early Christian Tradition. The New Testament mentions Jesus’ ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’ (like in Mark 6:3), but in biblical Greek, these terms—adelphoi and adelphai—often mean extended family, like cousins or close relatives, not necessarily biological siblings.
For example, in Genesis 13:8, Abraham and Lot are called ‘brothers’ but are uncle and nephew. The Church points out that no passage explicitly says Mary had other children, and early Christians, like the Church Fathers, consistently taught her virginity. This fits with her role as the Mother of God, totally dedicated to Jesus, which we see in her presence at the Cross (John 19:25–27) and her connection to the Eucharist, as we discussed. I’d love to explore this more if you’re curious—maybe check out the Catechism or a Catholic Bible commentary!”
Do you believe she had a c section or how could she be a virgin after giving birth?
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these matters should be discussed with our resident religious scholar tbombz.
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Catholics are deeply repentant over the Evil antisemitism it has perpetuated for thousands of years.
Jewish leaders have welcomed a statement by the Archbishop of Canterbury, who said the Church had been partly responsible for the spread of anti-Semitism.
In an article published in a book by the Holocaust Educational Trust, the Most Reverend Justin Welby called anti-Semitism an "insidious evil".
He added: "It is a shameful truth that, through its theological teachings, the Church, which should have offered an antidote, compounded the spread of this virus."
The president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Jonathan Arkush, called the archbishop's words "powerful and timely".
In the article, Archbishop Welby said Christians should be "deeply repentant" for the fact that anti-Semitism had "infected the body of the Church.
"We live with the consequences of our history of denial and complicity," he said.
Christians' public attitudes to Jews have changed since the middle of the 20th Century.
Catholics still pray on Good Friday that Jews will convert to Christianity. But references to "perfidious Jews" and "blindness" - which once formed parts of Church services - have been removed.
Pope John XXIII intervened more than 50 years ago, ordering that the Latin word "perfidis", meaning "faithless", be removed.
The word was controversial because of its similarity to the English term "perfidious", which is used as a synonym for "treacherous".
And in 2008, Pope Benedict XVI altered the prayer used in the Tridentine rite, or extraordinary form of the liturgy, removing a reference to "the blindness of that people".
The Church of England's Good Friday liturgy now asks God to take "all blindness and bitterness of heart" from both Jews and Christians.
Mr Arkush said Christians had sometimes been to blame for anti-Semitism "permeating European thought" for thousands of years.
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I'm sure the Coach's Catholicism is the good kind and he would never call the Jews blind. Their eyes are wide open and will presumably be saved regardless of their "slightly" differing faith.
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The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was a virgin her entire life, a belief called her perpetual virginity, which is supported by Scripture and early Christian Tradition. The New Testament mentions Jesus’ ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’ (like in Mark 6:3), but in biblical Greek, these terms—adelphoi and adelphai—often mean extended family, like cousins or close relatives, not necessarily biological siblings.
For example, in Genesis 13:8, Abraham and Lot are called ‘brothers’ but are uncle and nephew. The Church points out that no passage explicitly says Mary had other children, and early Christians, like the Church Fathers, consistently taught her virginity. This fits with her role as the Mother of God, totally dedicated to Jesus, which we see in her presence at the Cross (John 19:25–27) and her connection to the Eucharist, as we discussed. I’d love to explore this more if you’re curious—maybe check out the Catechism or a Catholic Bible commentary!”
Matthew 1:25
When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
[It's literally saying Mary was not a virgin for the remainder of the marriage. If the brothers mentioned were somehow 'cousins' or step-brothers, the above explicitly states they had sexual relations as husband and wife, even if it did not produce children.]
Matthew 13:55
Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?
[It seems quite a stretch to argue they were not literal brothers. Ancient Greek does have a word for cousin, so why use brother instead? The word 'cousin' is used in other instances in the New Testament]
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Matthew 13:55
Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?
[It seems quite a stretch to argue they were not literal brothers. Ancient Greek does have a word for cousin, so why use brother instead? The word 'cousin' is used in other instances in the New Testament]
Joseph was a widower so they could have been step brothers from his previous marriage.
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Joseph was a widower so they could have been step brothers from his previous marriage.
As mentioned, even if they were somehow not full brothers or brothers at all, the above verse states that Joseph and Mary still had sexual relations as a husband and wife and consummated their marriage, meaning Mary was not a virgin for the rest of the marriage.
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As mentioned, even if they were somehow not full brothers or brothers at all, the above verse states that Joseph and Mary still had sexual relations as a husband and wife and consummated their marriage, meaning Mary was not a virgin for the rest of the marriage.
I cant believe that people still think she was a virgin at all....
The entire religions foundation is based on a virgin birth FFS
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I cant believe that people still think she was a virgin at all....
The entire religions foundation is based on a virgin birth FFS
Refer to point 4
20 Essential Truths of the New Testament
No. 1 - The Purposes of Holy Scripture is for the knowledge of salvation: Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11;
2 Tim. 3:15; 2 Pet. 1:21
No. 2 - The Holy Scriptures were inspired by God to teach us all truth: Mark 12:24; John 16:13, 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:14; 2 Pet. 1:19
No. 3 - The Spirit of God teaches us personally through the study of the Scriptures: Matt. 4:4; John 20:30; 2 Cor. 4:3; Heb. 4:12
No. 4 - Man in sin cannot understand the Bible: John 8:47; 1 Cor 2:14; 2 Pet 3:16
No. 5 - We must be under the influence of the Holy Spirit: Luke 24:45; Rom 8:5; 1 Cor 2:9; 1 Cor 2:15; Eph 1:16; 1 John 2:20
No. 6 - Religious traditions are false doctrines: Matthew 15:3; Mark 7:7; Gal 1:8; Col 2:8,20; 1 Timothy 1:3, 6:3; Rev 22:18
No. 7 - God, the one Father and Creator, is ONE with His only Son, Jesus Christ, in a single Spirit who gives life: Matthew 3:16; Matthew 28:19; John 14:26, John 16:13; John 16:27; 2 Cor 13:13; Eph 4:4; Tit 3:4; 1Jn 5:6
No. 8 - Jesus Christ is God from all eternity, Word of God, true God and true man:
Jn 1:1, 1:9, 8:58, 10:30; Col 1:14; 2:8; 1Tim 3:16; Heb 1:5; 1Jn 2:22, 4:15, 5:11, 1Jn 5:20; Rev 1:8
No. 9 - God is the ONLY One who must receive, in the name of Jesus Christ, our worship and prayers: Mt 4:10, 6:9; Jn 14:13; Jn 16:23; Jas 1:5; 1 John 3:22
No. 10 - All men are born in a state of sin and are condemned to eternal death: John 8:21, 15:5;
Rom 2:1, 3:10, 5:12, 6:23, 7:5; 1 Cor 1:19, 15:21; Eph 2:1, 4:17
No. 11 - All sin leads to death, without distinction between venial and mortal sins: Rom 6:23; 1 Cor 6:9; Gal 3:10, 5:19; Jas 2:10; 1 John 3:4 Rev 21:8
No. 12 - Jesus Christ, by dying in our place, made atonement for our sins, and delivers us from the curse of death: Rom 5:6; 2 Cor 5:18; Gal 3:13 Col 2:10; Heb 9:26; 1 Pet 2:24
No. 13 - It is by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ that our souls are purified: Rom 5:1, 5:9, 8:1, 8:29, 8:32-37;
2 Cor 5:1; Eph 1:6; Phil 1:23; Col 1:22, 2:13; Heb 7:25, 9:26; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 John 1:7; Rev 1:6, 7:14
No. 14 - Only Jesus Christ is Savior: nothing else saves us before God, neither gold, nor silver, nor virgins, nor saints, nor angels, nor religious practices: John 10:9, 15:4; Acts 4:12; 1 Timothy 2:5; 1 Pet 1:18
No. 15 - The only mediator between God and men is Jesus Christ: the only high priest, the only intercessor, the only counselor, the only leader, and the only shepherd: John 14:6, John 14:13; Rom 8:33; Eph 2:8, 1 Tim 2:5; Heb 7:24, 9:24; 1 John 2:1
No. 16 - Salvation is free, through faith in Jesus Christ: so whoever believes and obeys the Lord Jesus Christ is justified and saved. John 1:12, 3:16, 3:36, 20:31; Acts 10:43, 16:30; Rom 1:17, 3:23, Rom 5:1; Gal 2:16, 3:11; Ephesians 2:8, Titus 3:4; 1 John 5:10
No. 17 To attain salvation, man must confess his sins and ask God for forgiveness: Matthew 12:36;
Luke 11:2, 18:13; Acts 2:38, 8:22; Rom. 14:12; 2 Corinthians 5:19-21; 1 Pet. 1:18, 1 John 2:1-2
No. 18 - The doctrine of salvation by works is unbiblical. Salvation cannot be bought. It is a gift from God: Matthew 19:25; Luke 17:10; Rom. 3:19, 11:6; Gal. 2:16, 3:10; Gal. 5:4; Eph. 2:8
No. 19 - True faith naturally generates good works through the Holy Spirit: Rom. 6:5; Gal. 5:6; Eph. 2:8; Tit 2:13; Heb 11:6; Jas 2:14; 1 Jn 2:4/by obedience: Gal 5:16, 5:22, Eph 4:24, 5:8; Jas 1:16
No. 20 Jesus will return for the elect: Jn 12:26, 14:3, 14:18
1 Th 4:14
AND EVERYTHING WILL BE JUDGED: MT 12:36, 16:27, RM 2:5, 14:10; 1 Co 4:5; 2 Tim 4:1; Re 20:12-15
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I cant believe that people still think she was a virgin at all....
The entire religions foundation is based on a virgin birth FFS
:D She said she was a virgin so it must be true.
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:D She said she was a virgin so it must be true.
Believe all women
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Believe all women
Or the people who made up the story decades later.
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Or the people who made up the story decades later.
More like 8 centuries earlier....
Isaiah chapter 7 verse 14
Therefore will the Lord himself give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and shall bring forth a son, and call his name Immanuel.
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More like 8 centuries earlier....
Isaiah chapter 7 verse 14
Therefore will the Lord himself give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and shall bring forth a son, and call his name Immanuel.
She didn't name him Immanuel.
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She didn't name him Immanuel.
https://www.thywordistruth.com/questions/Question-195.html
Question #195
Why was Jesus not called Immanuel?
Why was Jesus not called Immanuel, as was prophesied? This confuses me. And I don’t recall ever seeing an explanation for this.
The Answer:
In Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah declared, “Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call Him Immanuel.” In Matthew 1:22-23 we read, “All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: ‘The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel’ which means, ‘God with us.’”
There are many names given to Jesus using the phrase “He shall be called" in the Bible. This was a common way of saying that people would refer to Him in these various ways. For example, Isaiah said, “His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6). None of these titles was Jesus’ actual name, but these were descriptions people would use to refer to him.
In the same way, to say that Jesus would be called “Immanuel” means Jesus is God and that He dwelt among us in his incarnation. Jesus was God in the flesh. Jesus was God making His dwelling among us (John 1:1,14). Immanuel is one of the many titles for Jesus, a description of who he is.
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So if Nostradamus said that a prophet who would save the world would be born in 500 years and his name would be Mike and 500 years later someone named Steve claimed to be that prophet we should believe him. Got it.
Ask the Jews their opinions on that Biblical passage.
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So if Nostradamus said that a prophet who would save the world would be born in 500 years and his name would be Mike and 500 years later someone named Steve claimed to be that prophet we should believe him. Got it.
Ask the Jews their opinions on that Biblical passage.
Glad it was helpful
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You invest so much time and effort proving yourself here, truth is more in experience than words, do you have a powerful testimony to share or are you such a hard man that you keep God's love far from you?
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You invest so much time and effort proving yourself here, truth is more in experience than words, do you have a powerful testimony to share or are you such a hard man that you keep God's love far from you?
Shut up moron
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Matthew 1:25
When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
[It's literally saying Mary was not a virgin for the remainder of the marriage. If the brothers mentioned were somehow 'cousins' or step-brothers, the above explicitly states they had sexual relations as husband and wife, even if it did not produce children.]
Matthew 13:55
Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?
[It seems quite a stretch to argue they were not literal brothers. Ancient Greek does have a word for cousin, so why use brother instead? The word 'cousin' is used in other instances in the New Testament]
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God(including Jesus), nor the demons, do really care that much for humans.
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God(including Jesus), nor the demons, do really care that much for humans.
It seems not.
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God(including Jesus), nor the demons, do really care that much for humans.
Its like when people pray for people in a plane crash, Gods made his feelings pretty clear already what he thinks about the people on the plane
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There are Gods but not what we understand or have been tought to understand.
these beings are not from this world & have been with us since the creation of mankind & its development (good & bad)
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There are Gods but not what we understand or have been tought to understand.
these beings are not from this world & have been with us since the creation of mankind & its development (good & bad)
Ancient astronaut theory?
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a mate of ours who is as reliable a reference as anyone of the apostles- reckoned mary was a suck queen who loved back door. and pretended she couldnt have vaginal as she used to fist herself claiming it was god and had a minge like a hippo's yawn.
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There are Gods but not what we understand or have been tought to understand.
these beings are not from this world & have been with us since the creation of mankind & its development (good & bad)
Book of Enoch...
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Seemingly the retard has accepted defeat
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Seemingly the retard has accepted defeat
And who would that be, you? This kind of talk is infantile and shows clearly that there is no Christ in you just words.
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And who would that be, you? This kind of talk is infantile and shows clearly that there is no Christ in you just words.
No, I was talking about you, stupid MF. You are really dense, aren't you?
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No, I was talking about you, stupid MF. You are really dense, aren't you?
You are dense to God that is for sure, Jesus hated your type.
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You are dense to God that is for sure, Jesus hated your type.
Citation needed.
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Citation needed.
You bow before the letter of the law but violate its heart -Matthew 23.23
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You bow before the letter of the law but violate its heart -Matthew 23.23
Making shit up once again. Here is the verse you claim to quote:
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye pay tithes of mint and anise and cummin, and ye have left aside the weightier matters of the law, judgment and mercy and faith: these ye ought to have done and not have left those aside.
Where does it say that Jesus hates my type?
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You prove my point.
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You prove my point.
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Reading isn't your strong point, so you resort to videos. But you still did not provide a citation that backs up your claim. Fucking RETARD
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If you watched Jesus admonish you you would hear it said as I originally wrote it.
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If you watched Jesus admonish you you would hear it said as I originally wrote it.
Like the self righteous low IQ mouth breather that you are, you are just making up shit as you go. Pathetic scumbag drug addict piece of schmoe meat is all you will ever be.
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Like the self righteous low IQ mouth breather that you are, you are just making up shit as you go. Pathetic scumbag drug addict piece of schmoe meat is all you will ever be.
You are an unfit pig in every respect.
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You are an unfit pig in every respect.
You exist but to serve fat pigs. Your entire pathetic little existence revolves around injecting drugs and overloading your body to achieve a specific look that gay men, and nobody else, adore. What a pathetic life.
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You exist but to serve fat pigs. Your entire pathetic little existence revolves around injecting drugs and overloading your body to achieve a specific look that gay men, and nobody else, adore. What a pathetic life.
My existence revolves around the Divine. I actually exercise and eat a healthy diet whereas your an obese gay who stinks of the devil.
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My existence revolves around the Divine. I actually exercise and eat a healthy diet whereas your an obese gay who stinks of the devil.
Possibly the most delusional poster ever. You are an insecure drug addict who desperately wants to be seen as deep and spiritual. This is hilarious, you are even more stupid than I suspected. ;D
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No, when someone prioritises God they become clear minded not an obnoxious asshole like yourself.
Your just a fucking gimmick.
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No, when someone prioritises God they become clear minded not an obnoxious asshole like yourself.
Your just a fucking gimmick.
Wait what, you are claiming NOT to be an obnoxious asshole ? ;D ;D ;D
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Wait what, you are claiming NOT to be an obnoxious asshole ? ;D ;D ;D
Only to toads like you.
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a mate of ours who is as reliable a reference as anyone of the apostles- reckoned mary was a suck queen who loved back door. and pretended she couldnt have vaginal as she used to fist herself claiming it was god and had a minge like a hippo's yawn.
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What came first? The chicken or the egg?
If the egg, who layeth the first egg?
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I once considered converting, but I'd missed my ecumenical window
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What happened when a hippopotamus ate a prodestant a catholic and a jew? He had an ecumenical movement.
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What happened when a hippopotamus ate a prodestant a catholic and a jew? He had an ecumenical movement.
What did he wiped with?
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What did he wiped with?
Unwillys face.