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Title: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: MuscleBuff on October 17, 2025, 10:55:48 PM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Methyl m1ke on October 17, 2025, 11:43:26 PM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.

Indeed they are. We want immigration so long as they are an exploitable working class and here temporarily. Its more than obvious now that democrats are in bed this nations enemies.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2025, 01:00:57 AM
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Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: BigRo on October 18, 2025, 02:29:28 AM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.

Poor starving aids patient.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 18, 2025, 08:02:51 AM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.
Agreed.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: chaos on October 18, 2025, 08:50:20 AM
Indeed they are. We want immigration so long as they are an exploitable working class and here temporarily. Its more than obvious now that democrats are in bed this nations enemies.
Absolutely. Democrats are pushing for modern day slavery under the guise of human rights.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2025, 09:34:54 AM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.

Never heard that phrase, but as long they’re legal, they most certainly are welcome
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: illuminati on October 18, 2025, 09:38:35 AM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.

Any & all Islamic folk should Not be allowed in
& any here Kicked out or Renounce Islam - no mosques &
no Islamic clothing.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2025, 09:44:48 AM
Any & all Islamic folk should Not be allowed in
& any here Kicked out or Renounce Islam - no mosques &
no Islamic clothing.

Its speeding up now pal

Ten years all major cities will be under Islamic rule
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: illuminati on October 18, 2025, 09:51:31 AM
Its speeding up now pal

Ten years all major cities will be under Islamic rule


Currently it's not looking good more so with the Islamic Lover
& Britsjh people Traitor Kwier Stammer & his goons - on the
positive more & more folk are waking up .

If I'm still alive in 10yrs time I sincerely hope to have left
England ( sadly)  a good few yrs prior.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2025, 09:56:38 AM

Currently it's not looking good more so with the Islamic Lover
& Britsjh people Traitor Kwier Stammer & his goons - on the
positive more & more folk are waking up .

If I'm still alive in 10yrs time I sincerely hope to have left
England ( sadly)  a good few yrs prior.

I have another year at work maybe two then we are going, not sure where yet

Albania looks a good bet as theres no fucker there, they are all here

Scratch that, Albania is super expensive
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: illuminati on October 18, 2025, 10:00:15 AM
I have another year at work maybe two then we are going, not sure where yet

Albania looks a good bet as theres no fucker there, they are all here

Same 1 or 2 more yrs - Poland looks appealing - I have a few places
to think about. Depending on what i can afford to buy & how much
I'd have left in the Bank.
Ideally some where warm & bright 90% of the Time.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 18, 2025, 10:31:38 AM
Never heard that phrase, but as long they’re legal, they most certainly are welcome

No, they shouldn’t be. We are all full here.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2025, 10:34:37 AM
Same 1 or 2 more yrs - Poland looks appealing - I have a few places
to think about. Depending on what i can afford to buy & how much
I'd have left in the Bank.
Ideally some where warm & bright 90% of the Time.

Poland hardly anything under £200k

Just looking at Orkneys or Shetland


Fucks sake just looked at ethnicity in Shetland, 13% non-white and rising

They are fucking everywhere
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2025, 10:35:52 AM
It's the race blind Marxist civic nationalism of the Coach and Ben Shapiro kind that fucks up cohesive societies. Few dare to openly admit that race matters but everyone intuits it. If legal Indians flood the US it will change the country's character. I remember Trump said he'd want more Norwegians or whatever. Of course he understands that whites would be better for the US.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: chaos on October 18, 2025, 12:09:43 PM
No, they shouldn’t be. We are all full here.
;D
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: beakdoctor on October 18, 2025, 12:17:18 PM
Disagree.

I have no problem with anyone who wants to come here through the same legal process that my grandparents came here through. Very simple.

After they go through the immigration process they can apply for citizenship.  If they commit any felony person crimes, get caught with illegal forearms, sell dope or steal cars or are convicted of any crimes whatsoever,  they can get the fuck out and never be allowed back.

If they get citizenship,  they're entitled to the same rights as anyone else.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2025, 12:27:51 PM
Disagree.

I have no problem with anyone who wants to come here through the same legal process that my grandparents came here through. Very simple.

After they go through the immigration process they can apply for citizenship.  If they commit any felony person crimes, get caught with illegal forearms, sell dope or steal cars or are convicted of any crimes whatsoever,  they can get the fuck out and never be allowed back.

If they get citizenship,  they're entitled to the same rights as anyone else.

Yes but does "race" not matter at all? I don't know how law abiding Indians are, but let's say they are exemplary, won't it change the character of the country if they are let in en masse regardless? Or say if they are African Catholics, with supposedly the same values. People will still naturally divide themselves based on color in many cases. An Indian boss will naturally be inclined to hire other Indians and so on. I think even the avowed color blind civic nationalists very well understand this but just can't bring themselves to say race matters.

Race is Real, not an artificial construct! :D

Is this a good development?

"The U.S. population was around 90% White around 1940, it is not 40% White today. As of 2022, Non-Hispanic Whites make up about 58.4% of the population. The population is more racially and ethnically diverse due to shifts in immigration patterns since 1965, which opened up immigration from countries in Latin America and Asia."
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2025, 12:55:19 PM
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https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=701403.0;attach=1575137;image

Looks like a public pool in South Africa when blacks were allowed into white areas in 1992.

Weird that I can actually remember living in a time when this was the law, and it was considered correct and logical and all other countries around the world were thought to be insane.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Wiggs on October 18, 2025, 01:36:03 PM
Let's skip the small talk and get to the part where the black Messiah returns and raises the dead in him along with those living in him and transforms those people to be like him and uses them to destroy your kingdom, establish his kingdom, throw Satan in a pit for 1000 years and the anti-Christ and false prophet in to the Lake of Fire for eternity.  Aka hell.and rules for 1000 years before his father, OUR Father, joins us after this thousand year reign after the final judgement and after Satan is let out a little season to cause havoc and sides with Gog and Magog and they pathetically attempt to go against the Kingdom of the Messiah only for fire to reign down from heaven from the Father destroying them all and Satan and death are thrown into the lake of fire for eternity.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2025, 01:58:06 PM
Let's skip the small talk and get to the part where the black Messiah returns and raises the dead in him along with those living in him and transforms those people to be like him and uses them to destroy your kingdom, establish his kingdom, throw Satan in a pit for 1000 years and the anti-Christ and false prophet in to the Lake of Fire for eternity. Aka hell.and rules for 1000 years before his father, OUR Father, joins us after this thousand year reign after the final judgement and after Satan is let out a little season to cause havoc and sides with Gog and Magog and they pathetically attempt to go against the Kingdom of the Messiah only for fire to reign down from heaven from the Father destroying them all and Satan and death are thrown into the lake of fire for eternity.

why is he treating Saten less harshly than the anti-christ?
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: 38 returns on October 18, 2025, 02:09:55 PM
they were at the same golf club so he gets a free pass
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: beakdoctor on October 18, 2025, 03:12:26 PM
Yes but does "race" not matter at all? I don't know how law abiding Indians are, but let's say they are exemplary, won't it change the character of the country if they are let in en masse regardless? Or say if they are African Catholics, with supposedly the same values. People will still naturally divide themselves based on color in many cases. An Indian boss will naturally be inclined to hire other Indians and so on. I think even the avowed color blind civic nationalists very well understand this but just can't bring themselves to say race matters.

Race is Real, not an artificial construct! :D

Is this a good development?

"The U.S. population was around 90% White around 1940, it is not 40% White today. As of 2022, Non-Hispanic Whites make up about 58.4% of the population. The population is more racially and ethnically diverse due to shifts in immigration patterns since 1965, which opened up immigration from countries in Latin America and Asia."

No. Race is irrelevant.  The problem with the African or S. American or Mexican immigrant to the US has a lot to do with the behaviors that are taught, encouraged, tolerated and indoctrinated AFTER they arrive in the US of A.

Even if they arrive as wholly immoral, filthy, violent, savages, if the conditions in the US were different,  a return to values, return to common sense, reasoning, civic debate, education, those savages would assimilate to the expectations of society. Most of the bullshit that is spouted by the left and/or right is X "ism" whether its race, religion,  ethnicity,  gender, etc.(but to be 100% clear most of the bullshit comes from the left).. its taking the abhorrent behavior of some and attributing it to all. Or let's say taking the behavior of most and attributing it to all.

Unfortunately 'cultural Marxism' has destroyed the last 2 generations of white Americans, victim hood and lack of any accountability has destroyed the last 2 generations of black Americans. And its roots began even further back.

Immigration has always existed. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration. But if you begin your American journey by breaking the very first law you encounter , you will not respect the country, its laws, its people or its history. And if you don't respect those things specifically the law and its citizens, then  you can't be tolerated. You must get the fuck out. I would even say if you have a shitty criminal record, you shouldn't be allowed entry in the first place.

But we live in. Backwards times. We have politicians,  elected officials,  who are behaving worse than most immigrants act. To quote a well known politician "we are a nation of immigrants but we are also a nation of laws." And we have mayor's and senators and governors and representatives who are openly encouraging violence toward law enforcement,  advocating law breaking, threatening the president,  or many are even openly racist. The problem isn't the country or color of the immigrant, the problem is left wing politics.

My beliefs would probably be different if I lived in France or Germany or many European countries that have gone to shit. Those countries should maintain their heritage,  history, customs and above all protect themselves from the invasion. But The U.S. has to have some respect for our own history and recognize that a nation of immigrants can exist successfully,  can assimilate,  tolerate each other given how we all got here (native Indians notwithstanding.)

Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: illuminati on October 18, 2025, 03:48:47 PM
Let's skip the small talk and get to the part where the black Messiah returns and raises the dead in him along with those living in him and transforms those people to be like him and uses them to destroy your kingdom, establish his kingdom, throw Satan in a pit for 1000 years and the anti-Christ and false prophet in to the Lake of Fire for eternity.  Aka hell.and rules for 1000 years before his father, OUR Father, joins us after this thousand year reign after the final judgement and after Satan is let out a little season to cause havoc and sides with Gog and Magog and they pathetically attempt to go against the Kingdom of the Messiah only for fire to reign down from heaven from the Father destroying them all and Satan and death are thrown into the lake of fire for eternity.

Wiggs WTF are smoking ??  You'll be seeing Batman & Robin next.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2025, 04:37:41 PM
No. Race is irrelevant.  The problem with the African or S. American or Mexican immigrant to the US has a lot to do with the behaviors that are taught, encouraged, tolerated and indoctrinated AFTER they arrive in the US of A.

Even if they arrive as wholly immoral, filthy, violent, savages, if the conditions in the US were different,  a return to values, return to common sense, reasoning, civic debate, education, those savages would assimilate to the expectations of society. Most of the bullshit that is spouted by the left and/or right is X "ism" whether its race, religion,  ethnicity,  gender, etc.(but to be 100% clear most of the bullshit comes from the left).. its taking the abhorrent behavior of some and attributing it to all. Or let's say taking the behavior of most and attributing it to all.

Unfortunately 'cultural Marxism' has destroyed the last 2 generations of white Americans, victim hood and lack of any accountability has destroyed the last 2 generations of black Americans. And its roots began even further back.

Immigration has always existed. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration. But if you begin your American journey by breaking the very first law you encounter , you will not respect the country, its laws, its people or its history. And if you don't respect those things specifically the law and its citizens, then  you can't be tolerated. You must get the fuck out. I would even say if you have a shitty criminal record, you shouldn't be allowed entry in the first place.

But we live in. Backwards times. We have politicians,  elected officials,  who are behaving worse than most immigrants act. To quote a well known politician "we are a nation of immigrants but we are also a nation of laws." And we have mayor's and senators and governors and representatives who are openly encouraging violence toward law enforcement,  advocating law breaking, threatening the president,  or many are even openly racist. The problem isn't the country or color of the immigrant, the problem is left wing politics.

My beliefs would probably be different if I lived in France or Germany or many European countries that have gone to shit. Those countries should maintain their heritage,  history, customs and above all protect themselves from the invasion. But The U.S. has to have some respect for our own history and recognize that a nation of immigrants can exist successfully,  can assimilate,  tolerate each other given how we all got here (native Indians notwithstanding.)

I understand living in the melting pot it affects things. I know there's a lot of debate on what America was envisioned as by the founding fathers and what it should be now. I'm an outsider but from my readings the founding fathers perhaps didn't believe in the compatibility and equality of all races. There was the Naturalization Act of 1790 that restricted immigration to "free white persons of good character." One hero of American history is the abolitionist Abraham Lincoln. But look what he said, despite seeing slavery as immoral:


"There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races . . . . A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together."

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races — that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality."


Later, in 1965 with the new Immigration Act there were nonetheless assurances that the racial demographic breakdown wouldn't change much as many worried about it. So this completely colorblind view of the United States seems fairly new to me.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Royalty on October 18, 2025, 04:50:56 PM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.

unwieldy
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: chaos on October 18, 2025, 05:00:50 PM
Let's skip the small talk and get to the part where the black Messiah returns and raises the dead in him along with those living in him and transforms those people to be like him and uses them to destroy your kingdom, establish his kingdom, throw Satan in a pit for 1000 years and the anti-Christ and false prophet in to the Lake of Fire for eternity.  Aka hell.and rules for 1000 years before his father, OUR Father, joins us after this thousand year reign after the final judgement and after Satan is let out a little season to cause havoc and sides with Gog and Magog and they pathetically attempt to go against the Kingdom of the Messiah only for fire to reign down from heaven from the Father destroying them all and Satan and death are thrown into the lake of fire for eternity.
Are you sure you're following the right god?
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 18, 2025, 06:40:43 PM
I am a right winger but there is one phrase I wish people would stop saying: "... migrants who want to integrate in our society are welcome.."

Its just not true. They can fuck off with the rest of them. Every filthy migrant that enters our borders is taking food off our tables.

Migrants put food ON our tables, actually.  You think Americans are able to pick crops?  We’re all soft & spoiled.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 18, 2025, 06:49:39 PM
Georgia passed a tough anti-immigration law back in 2011, HB 87.  The result was that Georgia was short thousands of agricultural workers and suffered ~$140,000,000 in crop losses.  There was no one to pick the fields, and the crops rotted on the stalk.  They attempted to substitute prisoners for the migrants next year, but it was ineffective.

Fortunately for Georgia, a court issued a permanent injunction staying the law in 2013.

Seems like we are poised to repeat this experiment, but on a national scale this time.  Oh boy …
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Randomum on October 18, 2025, 08:59:40 PM
I think illegal immigration is a problem in the US but it is not even top ten in issues. I think the sheep, and ignorant are making this their biggest issue. Which is what the rich elites want. I am lucky that I have been able to climb the socio-economic ladder from being raised in a conservative high middle class family and most of my family is middle class. It is very clear that while the peasants fight over their 1 % and blame brown/black folks they lose sight of what is actually happening. The real anger in America is because most people can no longer afford things. 1% of the population owns 98% of the resources. That is the real issue.

Capitalism has grown unchecked, and that is the problem. I make most of my income as capital gains so the taxes are outrageous as it is, but the problem is that there are too many loop holes and the wealthiest get out of paying most of their taxes. Look at wealth inequality since Reagan with his tax cuts. That is the problem. Again I benefit from these tax cuts but what benefit can I have now that I finally made it if the people around me are all in a bad situation.

Illegal immigration has actually subsidized food prices en masse for Americans, and most illegals pay into social security and will never benefit from it. If you remove them when the economy is bad its going to hurt the wallet of Americans. Yes, we need true immigration reform. The reason we do not have it is that the corporations profit from their hard work ethic, and the low wages they can pay them.

There has been an erosion of American values as well, and not the ones you think. All this bs of Christian values, that is not the problem. Our immigrants (legal or illegal) are mostly Christian. The values I am talking about is the work ethic. Our great grandfather's worked their farms, and their children did as well. Now we hire poor immigrants, and our children do not have the work ethic, or skills to since they were never taught to have to do that.

The real solution to our problem is remove all politicians from office, ban trading on markets for any elected officials and their immediate family, bring forth new elections, delete gerrymandering do vote by county or through citizen elected commissions, and employ a flat tax. After these problems are fixed we can work on true immigration reform. With the problems we are facing it should not be top 5 if it will push us further into economic decline. Also the cost to remove all of these illegals is more than a trillion dollars over 10 years, we could probably do something better with that money since we are no longer economically viable as a nation. If we were wealthy and had less issues I would have no issues with it.

Most of the people I talk to, or see that want to have their opinions heard don't seem to see the big issue.  Go here before you fight with the other 99% for the remaining 1% of your pie. https://www.usdebtclock.org/ Remember you are closer/more similar in situation to the 3rd grade educated illegal immigrant than you are to the billionaire from your same town that had a grand parent from the same village as your grand parent. Wake up sheeple.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 19, 2025, 12:20:23 AM
^^^ Taxes are legalized theft. Reagan cut ridiculously high taxes for individuals and corporations. Raise taxes on corporations and they raise their prices which we end up paying.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Randomum on October 19, 2025, 04:06:13 AM
^^^ Taxes are legalized theft. Reagan cut ridiculously high taxes for individuals and corporations. Raise taxes on corporations and they raise their prices which we end up paying.


Look at socioeconomic inequality since Reagan, and after. Look at the net worth of the top 1% after Reagan, after Trump 1. Then tell me what you see bruh. Only regular people pay taxes. The rich don't and that's why most can't afford to live anymore.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 19, 2025, 06:15:51 AM
Disagree.

I have no problem with anyone who wants to come here through the same legal process that my grandparents came here through. Very simple.

After they go through the immigration process they can apply for citizenship.  If they commit any felony person crimes, get caught with illegal forearms, sell dope or steal cars or are convicted of any crimes whatsoever,  they can get the fuck out and never be allowed back.

If they get citizenship,  they're entitled to the same rights as anyone else.

Nigerians moved beside me in my condo unit. Put mine up for sale 2 weeks later. The most uncivilized people I've ever come across. Insanenly loud and ignorant with no respect for anyone around them. The entire condo complex was disturbed and reeked of deep fried fish and rotten meat.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 19, 2025, 08:40:23 AM

Look at socioeconomic inequality since Reagan, and after. Look at the net worth of the top 1% after Reagan, after Trump 1. Then tell me what you see bruh. Only regular people pay taxes. The rich don't and that's why most can't afford to live anymore.
You repeat the same Leftist talking points and it is wrong.
https://usafacts.org/articles/who-pays-the-most-income-tax/
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: chaos on October 19, 2025, 08:48:18 AM
Migrants put food ON our tables, actually.  You think Americans are able to pick crops?  We’re all soft & spoiled.
Migrants and illegal immigrants are not the same. Do you support slavery?
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Randomum on October 19, 2025, 12:16:58 PM
You repeat the same Leftist talking points and it is wrong.
https://usafacts.org/articles/who-pays-the-most-income-tax/

I am not a leftist, nor am I wrong. Look at corporate income taxes. That is the problem. Read it it may help you bruh.

Also I am not advocating for higher taxes. I am advocating for a flat tax on which all people pay the same tax percentage regardless of capability of earnings. Hardly a leftist viewpoint. I believe if we remove all tax loopholes, and make sure that corporations pay their fair share then we would not be in the situation we are. The sheeple don't see that corporations are controlling our government. The same people who complain about proper taxation probably do not even make enough to pay taxes, or pay a small share. People like Warren Buffet believe corporations should pay their fair share, which they don't.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: GymnJuice on October 19, 2025, 01:17:06 PM
Flat tax is the answer. But it will never happen.

I think people care more about how government money is spent when they're actually contributing. When too large of a portion doesn't pay any real amount of money then they don't care as much about the waste.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 19, 2025, 02:02:36 PM
Flat tax is the answer. But it will never happen.

I think people care more about how government money is spent when they're actually contributing. When too large of a portion doesn't pay any real amount of money then they don't care as much about the waste.

Flat tax or some sort of uniform sales tax on goods across the board. Taxes are too difficult for a normal person, let alone a business. CPAs just figure out ways to beat the taxman, and it just seems dumb. This coming from a guy who tries to beat the taxman yearly.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Randomum on October 19, 2025, 03:26:25 PM
Flat tax is the answer. But it will never happen.

I think people care more about how government money is spent when they're actually contributing. When too large of a portion doesn't pay any real amount of money then they don't care as much about the waste.

If we actually used our voting power this would be the solution, I agree. Unfortunately, I also agree it is a pipe dream :( .
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: IroNat on October 19, 2025, 03:26:58 PM
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Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Super Nattie on October 20, 2025, 02:11:49 AM
We work literally half the year for the state...

normies dont understand how much tax is being extracted...

UK tax:
20% income progressive
13% NIC
15% ENIC
8% pension
8% Employers pension contribution
20%VAT
60% fuel duty
23% green levy on utilities
Road tax
6% insurance premium tax
- 40% inheritance tax when you die.

They tax you 20-40+% when you earn money, 20% when you spend money, and if you have enough left over when you die, they take 40% of that too
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Royalty on October 20, 2025, 02:28:07 AM
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Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Lartinos on October 20, 2025, 07:30:18 AM
We work literally half the year for the state...

normies dont understand how much tax is being extracted...

UK tax:
20% income progressive
13% NIC
15% ENIC
8% pension
8% Employers pension contribution
20%VAT
60% fuel duty
23% green levy on utilities
Road tax
6% insurance premium tax
- 40% inheritance tax when you die.

They tax you 20-40+% when you earn money, 20% when you spend money, and if you have enough left over when you die, they take 40% of that too

I get my Vat back and only get charged my USA income taxes for my UK profits.

That combined with my Florida residency (no state income tax) is a sweet deal.

Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Kwon on October 20, 2025, 08:12:57 AM
I am a right winger and i liked this dance from Wulf of Wall Street

Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 20, 2025, 09:41:00 AM
Nigerians moved beside me in my condo unit. Put mine up for sale 2 weeks later. The most uncivilized people I've ever come across. Insanenly loud and ignorant with no respect for anyone around them. The entire condo complex was disturbed and reeked of deep fried fish and rotten meat.

I'm not in the US but I've seen many mentions of how blacks arriving recently out of Africa is almost a different species compared to the African-American black. Much different behaved. Also seen mentions of antagonism between these two groups. The recently arrived might be the highly educated type so there might be a selection affect but maybe also cultural, but maybe even genetic? What say you Americans?

I always complain of the Somalis here. The youth are a daily nuisance. Guttural yells and a vocabulary mostly consisting of "wallah bro I swear!" The tone between them is loud, argumentative, hostile and they keep pulling and slapping each other and jumping around like monkeys. What's tragic is sometimes some white kid is forced to grow up with these and they adopt these affectations to fit in :'(
Many US African Americans in the hood have a retarded way of speaking also, at least that's what I see on the net. It's like how animalistic can we make it and how badly can we butcher the language LOL.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: MajorDomo on October 20, 2025, 10:13:22 AM
Migrants put food ON our tables, actually.  You think Americans are able to pick crops?  We’re all soft & spoiled.

God you are a dumbass. Pre 1960 did we all fucking starve?  Migrants were brought in to raise profits for farms. Quite smoking the liberal bong.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Kwon on October 20, 2025, 10:15:38 AM
You don't NEED migrants from Middle-east/North-africa, Americans can do everything themselves just like in the 50s and 60s.


Thats just leftist propaganda/poopergranada that you have to import so many people for things to work
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Griffith on October 20, 2025, 12:10:54 PM
I'm not in the US but I've seen many mentions of how blacks arriving recently out of Africa is almost a different species compared to the African-American black. Much different behaved. Also seen mentions of antagonism between these two groups. The recently arrived might be the highly educated type so there might be a selection affect but maybe also cultural, but maybe even genetic? What say you Americans?

I always complain of the Somalis here. The youth are a daily nuisance. Guttural yells and a vocabulary mostly consisting of "wallah bro I swear!" The tone between them is loud, argumentative, hostile and they keep pulling and slapping each other and jumping around like monkeys. What's tragic is sometimes some white kid is forced to grow up with these and they adopt these affectations to fit in :'(
Many US African Americans in the hood have a retarded way of speaking also, at least that's what I see on the net. It's like how animalistic can we make it and how badly can we butcher the language LOL.

They are Westerners, they have nothing in common with black Africans except their skin colour.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 20, 2025, 05:37:28 PM
They are Westerners, they have nothing in common with black Africans except their skin colour.

What about a thing called genes? :D Which affects behavior, unless you think we are like unwritten pages when born or that genes only affect outward appearance and not psychology/the brain.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: chaos on October 20, 2025, 05:41:17 PM
What about a thing called genes? :D Which affects behavior, unless you think we are like unwritten pages when born or that genes only affect outward appearance and not psychology/the brain.
You are going into a territory that is "sensitive" to certain groups of people that claim behavior is based on socioeconomic status and not genes.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 20, 2025, 06:11:03 PM
You are going into a territory that is "sensitive" to certain groups of people that claim behavior is based on socioeconomic status and not genes.

But we are Getbiggers and based and don't take kindly to the thought police! :D

I'd think my comment should be so self evidently obvious as to be ridiculous to actually state but for some people it's controversial, even to some conservatives,  "It's about culture, not color!" :D
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: illuminati on October 20, 2025, 06:12:42 PM
You are going into a territory that is "sensitive" to certain groups of people that claim behavior is based on socioeconomic status and not genes.

Behaviour is based / affected by many things - Only there's No denying being a dindu type
entitled Black is a major contributor to awful abhorrent behaviour.
Title: Re: A huge and common copout lie uttered by right wingers
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 20, 2025, 06:29:02 PM
Behaviour is based / affected by many things - Only there's No denying being a dindu type
entitled Black is a major contributor to awful abhorrent behaviour.

Behavior is affected by socioeconomics, upbringing, culture and so on, like the leftists and some conservatives say but most people simply can't bring themselves to include genes in it, which I think is the biggest contributor. Why is it so scary? You can still treat everyone fairly and decently without oppressing them, I think.
Like I said in another thread, US conservative civic nationalists, for example, claim to be so reality based, unlike the leftists, but are so strongly married to the antiracist perspective they go liberal on this... just IMHO of course 8)