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Title: gear prices...wtf
Post by: tatoo on October 28, 2025, 05:58:57 AM
test at 120 per bottle? deca even more! shortages all over hell... dbol over a buck per tab some places... hope this ends soon.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on October 28, 2025, 06:04:19 AM
Well, China apparently controls most of those previous goods now     ;D
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 28, 2025, 06:10:44 AM
test at 120 per bottle? deca even more! shortages all over hell... dbol over a buck per tab some places... hope this ends soon.

Inflation man!!!!  Are you using some source from ProM?  That would be a reason there.  Try Outlaw.  They have some domestics that shouldn't be that high.

I leave for Thailand tomorrow and will see what their prices are like.  I have found the prices there to correlate to the "average" price here.  If the prices here go up and the price there go up, it is a supply/raw material issue.  If the prices here rise and stay the same there, it is normally an issue of the source getting stock in and out (shipping)

**edit**  I am seeing Testosterone shipped domestically for $41-$55.   
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: joswift on October 28, 2025, 06:10:49 AM
£25-£30 in the UK for 10mil 250 test

In the 90s I used to get them for £2-£4 each, had to buy a lot for that price
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: wes on October 28, 2025, 06:19:41 AM
I bought a lot of stuff for a contest I planned but will never use it.    :(
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: tatoo on October 28, 2025, 06:43:01 AM
Inflation man!!!!  Are you using some source from ProM?  That would be a reason there.  Try Outlaw.  They have some domestics that shouldn't be that high.

I leave for Thailand tomorrow and will see what their prices are like.  I have found the prices there to correlate to the "average" price here.  If the prices here go up and the price there go up, it is a supply/raw material issue.  If the prices here rise and stay the same there, it is normally an issue of the source getting stock in and out (shipping)

**edit**  I am seeing Testosterone shipped domestically for $41-$55.

i will check outlaw for sure. and yes its a pm guy..thanks bro
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: tatoo on October 28, 2025, 06:44:24 AM
£25-£30 in the UK for 10mil 250 test

In the 90s I used to get them for £2-£4 each, had to buy a lot for that price

used to buy organon sus for 5 bucks an amp in the 90s lol..
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 28, 2025, 06:55:59 AM
i will check outlaw for sure. and yes its a pm guy..thanks bro

Naps and GenezaDirect have domestic guys that you can find on outlaw.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: joswift on October 28, 2025, 07:00:12 AM
used to buy organon sus for 5 bucks an amp in the 90s lol..

Yes, single shots Testoviron and Testex used to be £2.75 wholesale , £4 retail
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: njflex on October 28, 2025, 10:06:12 AM
I bought a lot of stuff for a contest I planned but will never use it.    :(
SELL IT TO DJ158
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: old_lifter on October 28, 2025, 10:42:05 AM
Going to Cabo on sunday, anything good there gear wise, I know they sell those 3 test amps in the red box, I think it’s test-e?
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 28, 2025, 12:00:48 PM
Explanation I saw: Biggest manufacturer got shut down and others haven't picked up the slack yet as getting the proper licenses takes time. Someone gave me about 40 bottles for free so I'm covered. I even got 2 boxes of Alpha Pharma single amps of Para expired 10 years ago. Works fine.

i=C0ls6EsNDplsbDuU

This was supposedly the biggest
Roid manufacuter. Can't vouch it, just what I saw claimed. Obviously fentanyl was the target.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: deadz on October 28, 2025, 12:40:03 PM
Explanation I saw: Biggest manufacturer got shut down and others haven't picked up the slack yet as getting the proper licenses takes time. Someone gave me about 40 bottles for free so I'm covered. I even got 2 boxes of Alpha Pharma single amps of Para expired 10 years ago. Works fine.

i=C0ls6EsNDplsbDuU
Haven’t tried Alpha, any issues with counterfeits or under dosed gear. I purchased a few bottles of Geneza Test E and it gave me a welt on my shoulder for days, I threw it into the garbage. I’ve been using Aburaihan, Iran Test E with no problems for years. Labs always come back with over 1500mg dl. It’s pricey!
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 28, 2025, 01:25:56 PM
Haven’t tried Alpha, any issues with counterfeits or under dosed gear. I purchased a few bottles of Geneza Test E and it gave me a welt on my shoulder for days, I threw it into the garbage. I’ve been using Aburaihan, Iran Test E with no problems for years. Labs always come back with over 1500mg dl. It’s pricey!

First real test cycle was with Iranian test, I forget the name but they were good. The Aburaihan I have sampled have been good also. I remember Mauro DiPasquale saying if the oil isn't murky it's good to go. These were made 10 years ago and their reputation was great, I think they made them in labs in India or something, it was a huge operation, IIRC it was some Brit who was the mastermind. If you "know" tren these are potent, although I only take half an amp a week. joswift likes the Cidotestons but fellas here feel they are weak but you can't really go by that.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2019/Nov/14/india-linked-illegal-steroid-smuggling-ring-busted-in-uk-2061807.html
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: deadz on October 28, 2025, 01:35:29 PM
First real test cycle was with Iranian test, I forget the name but they were good. The Aburaihan I have sampled have been good also. I remember Mauro DiPasquale saying if the oil isn't murky it's good to go. These were made 10 years ago and their reputation was great, I think they made them in labs in India or something, it was a huge operation, IIRC it was some Brit who was the mastermind. If you "know" tren these are potent, although I only take half an amp a week. joswift likes the Cidotestons but fellas here feel they are weak but you can't really go by that.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2019/Nov/14/india-linked-illegal-steroid-smuggling-ring-busted-in-uk-2061807.html
👍
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: tatoo on October 28, 2025, 01:40:16 PM
First real test cycle was with Iranian test, I forget the name but they were good. The Aburaihan I have sampled have been good also. I remember Mauro DiPasquale saying if the oil isn't murky it's good to go. These were made 10 years ago and their reputation was great, I think they made them in labs in India or something, it was a huge operation, IIRC it was some Brit who was the mastermind. If you "know" tren these are potent, although I only take half an amp a week. joswift likes the Cidotestons but fellas here feel they are weak but you can't really go by that.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2019/Nov/14/india-linked-illegal-steroid-smuggling-ring-busted-in-uk-2061807.html

i just saw alpha pharma on a reputable guys list today.. legit?
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 28, 2025, 05:23:06 PM
i just saw alpha pharma on a reputable guys list today.. legit?

What doesn't make sense to me is copying a name of a lab from a decade ago. Impossible to saywhether it's good or bad but the name is a warning sign lol. Come up with your own name ffs, have some customers send in samples blind to janoshik. I had a friend who had wonderful ICN Galenikas and I told him to stock up on a sure thing so as not to worry for a few years, but no, always want to try "new stuff" ??? ::)
I've seen numerous different supposed Alpha products.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 29, 2025, 04:27:22 AM
What doesn't make sense to me is copying a name of a lab from a decade ago. Impossible to saywhether it's good or bad but the name is a warning sign lol. Come up with your own name ffs, have some customers send in samples blind to janoshik. I had a friend who had wonderful ICN Galenikas and I told him to stock up on a sure thing so as not to worry for a few years, but no, always want to try "new stuff" ??? ::)
I've seen numerous different supposed Alpha products.

Reminds me of a situation that happened a couple years after I moved to FL.  Without naming names, one of the biggest sources overseas took on a new guy to help run the US domestic operation.  They had several already working in various states.  One guy in NC was receiving raws from their shipper in Canada who received it from overseas, it was sent to several other guys that created the brews, ancillaries and did some tablet pressing, where it went to another couple in TN in bulk where they broke it down, bottled it, bagged it, etc...     Well this one guy's duty was to receive labels and the flip cap with the stamped logo on it, in the mail from overseas.  The real "brand" specific type.  With the holo logo and "security" measures on it and all.  That's it.  Nothing but labels and flip caps.  He would then remail them to two different addresses and that was it.  His job was done.  No actual drugs.  No actual compounds.  Handling nothing but paper.  But it was a LOT of paper.  About 100,000 labels a month were arriving, printed on rolls for various compounds.   Well, a couple months afterwards, one of the network got busted.  The source overseas dissolved the entire operation and everyone went to ground.  This dude realizing his opportunity for easy money just went up in smoke just bought vials and a crimper, started putting sterile oil in them and applying the labels.   Dude was raking in more money than he ever thought and everyone on the other source boards was raving about how great it was and "authentic" because of the security holos and stamped flip cap and such.
When the labels ran out, so did he.   I wonder what happened to that dude. 
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on October 29, 2025, 06:05:28 AM
Reminds me of a situation that happened a couple years after I moved to FL.  Without naming names, one of the biggest sources overseas took on a new guy to help run the US domestic operation.  They had several already working in various states.  One guy in NC was receiving raws from their shipper in Canada who received it from overseas, it was sent to several other guys that created the brews, ancillaries and did some tablet pressing, where it went to another couple in TN in bulk where they broke it down, bottled it, bagged it, etc...     Well this one guy's duty was to receive labels and the flip cap with the stamped logo on it, in the mail from overseas.  The real "brand" specific type.  With the holo logo and "security" measures on it and all.  That's it.  Nothing but labels and flip caps.  He would then remail them to two different addresses and that was it.  His job was done.  No actual drugs.  No actual compounds.  Handling nothing but paper.  But it was a LOT of paper.  About 100,000 labels a month were arriving, printed on rolls for various compounds.   Well, a couple months afterwards, one of the network got busted.  The source overseas dissolved the entire operation and everyone went to ground.  This dude realizing his opportunity for easy money just went up in smoke just bought vials and a crimper, started putting sterile oil in them and applying the labels.   Dude was raking in more money than he ever thought and everyone on the other source boards was raving about how great it was and "authentic" because of the security holos and stamped flip cap and such.
When the labels ran out, so did he.   I wonder what happened to that dude.
This is that dude...
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Royalty on October 29, 2025, 06:27:19 AM
Danimal has been posting on his Lurkernomore account quite frequently.

😂
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 29, 2025, 07:04:59 AM
😂

Spree posting without a hand photo?   I guess the Haldol XR is working better.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 29, 2025, 07:41:44 AM
This is that dude...

It was hysterical in a way.  Everyone on other boards were warning people about the bust.   It was in the news.   Nobody believed it because he was still churning out orders with a side email.  Even months down the road when people were complaining that it was bunk it didn’t dent his sales.  The source was practically in tears on forums all like “THAT IS NOT US”.   
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 29, 2025, 08:26:23 AM
This is that dude...
:D Hopefully, he wasn't that skinny with access to so much gear.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 29, 2025, 08:50:14 AM
:D Hopefully, he wasn't that skinny with access to so much gear.

Just labels.  No gear.  He was supposed to be mailing the labels to other people that were breaking gallons of gear down into vials and creating stock.  He was filling those vials he was selling with sterile oil, nothing else.

I wonder if Rambone knows/remembers the dude from the World/Powerhouse/Titan gym on Federal.  He is familiar with some of the characters from that place.  This dude is the one that got in the fight with the mental patient that lived in the little house across from the back parking lot of the gym (right where you turned in to drive up into the church lot.)  That crazy dude was fighting in underwear and a Target bag that he was wearing like a cape.  Nothing else.  And during the fight he took both off and threw it at the guy.  Then got beat unconscious while naked.  It was wild!
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 29, 2025, 08:53:26 AM
Just labels.  No gear.  He was supposed to be mailing the labels to other people that were breaking gallons of gear down into vials and creating stock.  He was filling those vials he was selling with sterile oil, nothing else.

I wonder if Rambone knows/remembers the dude from the World/Powerhouse/Titan gym on Federal.  He is familiar with some of the characters from that place.  This dude is the one that got in the fight with the mental patient that lived in the little house across from the back parking lot of the gym (right where you turned in to drive up into the church lot.)  That crazy dude was fighting in underwear and a Target bag that he was wearing like a cape.  Nothing else.  And during the fight he took both off and threw it at the guy.  Then got beat unconscious while naked.  It was wild!
So, he really was that skinny.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 29, 2025, 08:56:15 AM
So, he really was that skinny.

To be honest, he was kind of chubby.  Perma bulker.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Rambone on October 29, 2025, 12:41:26 PM
Just labels.  No gear.  He was supposed to be mailing the labels to other people that were breaking gallons of gear down into vials and creating stock.  He was filling those vials he was selling with sterile oil, nothing else.

I wonder if Rambone knows/remembers the dude from the World/Powerhouse/Titan gym on Federal.  He is familiar with some of the characters from that place.  This dude is the one that got in the fight with the mental patient that lived in the little house across from the back parking lot of the gym (right where you turned in to drive up into the church lot.)  That crazy dude was fighting in underwear and a Target bag that he was wearing like a cape.  Nothing else.  And during the fight he took both off and threw it at the guy.  Then got beat unconscious while naked.  It was wild!

Lmao! I was there quite a while ago. It was my late high school and early college years. Loved that gym. Characters I remember:

1.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0mHUZvMsTTiFZcLfcEakrZ66tkPxJDOu27vYkv97kng&s=10)
Mad TV version of Kenny Rogers lookalike who would smoke outside while drinking a ABB XXL drink or carb drink. Had a Jay cutler/rambo headband on. He also trained a Down’s syndrome kid with retard strength.

2.
(https://forum.bodybuilding.nl/attachments/noc2003_jones02-jpg.94323/)
Kenny Jones - no comment necessary. Wore lots of flannel and complained that he’d tear his biceps because the ceiling fans were on

3.
(https://cdn-images.fitbudd.com/fitbudd-prod-v1/bakerfitllc/b0667edc-e47e-4602-94f7-779c886762c7.jpeg?crop=1830%2C1830%2C0%2C25&width=640)
Paul Baker - Mr. Jamaica himself. Ate lots of Burger King at the counter. Had the shittiest car in the lot. A real shitbox. Fairly tall for a bodybuilder. Seemed like a pretty nice guy.

4.
(https://i.redd.it/p2hjtvck16c31.jpg)
Jeff the bald personal trainer guy that we’ve discussed in the past. Paper-thin skin of peace.

5.
(https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/20100521__20100522_A02_ND22BONOp1.jpg?w=640)
We called him Bono (not to his face) but he looked like a bald version of him with his signature glasses. Wore a black fishnet shirt and loved using the rope attachment. Possibly had nipple rings.

Trying to think of other random people. Miss that gym. I’m sure it’s super flaming by now. This was early 2000s. Would fight that crazy neighbor for a free gym membership for life
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 29, 2025, 02:56:30 PM
One guy in NC was receiving raws from their shipper in Canada who received it from overseas,

I saw one research chemical guy say he now had his Chinese raws sent through five different continents before he received it so it took a bit longer. The methods are sophisticated to trick customs :D
I so wish I'd had a reliable raws supplier, the cost would probably be 10 times less plus you could sell just a little bit and end up actually on the plus side  instead of spending money, even if it was relatively little. Janoshik says the market is the worst it's ever been. There's talk about India and Turkey picking up the slack but Janoshik says he hasn't gotten any from there yet. Chinese factories actually used his lab to check ther own powders but that has stopped completely. He says many labs are in the process of getting the proper licenses now but it moves slow.

He also says he used to get bribery attempts and lots of threats but that has stopped.  The labs would have been fucked if they tried that since the authorities don't like his operation and keep close tabs on him.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: wes on October 29, 2025, 07:06:43 PM
I wish we could sell gear here............mine would go for cheap and it`s a shit ton of quality stuff.


Please don`t post  "List me",I don`t want to be banned !!   LOL ;D
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 30, 2025, 06:54:14 AM
Lmao! I was there quite a while ago. It was my late high school and early college years. Loved that gym. Characters I remember:

1.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0mHUZvMsTTiFZcLfcEakrZ66tkPxJDOu27vYkv97kng&s=10)
Mad TV version of Kenny Rogers lookalike who would smoke outside while drinking a ABB XXL drink or carb drink. Had a Jay cutler/rambo headband on. He also trained a Down’s syndrome kid with retard strength.

2.
(https://forum.bodybuilding.nl/attachments/noc2003_jones02-jpg.94323/)
Kenny Jones - no comment necessary. Wore lots of flannel and complained that he’d tear his biceps because the ceiling fans were on

3.
(https://cdn-images.fitbudd.com/fitbudd-prod-v1/bakerfitllc/b0667edc-e47e-4602-94f7-779c886762c7.jpeg?crop=1830%2C1830%2C0%2C25&width=640)
Paul Baker - Mr. Jamaica himself. Ate lots of Burger King at the counter. Had the shittiest car in the lot. A real shitbox. Fairly tall for a bodybuilder. Seemed like a pretty nice guy.

4.
(https://i.redd.it/p2hjtvck16c31.jpg)
Jeff the bald personal trainer guy that we’ve discussed in the past. Paper-thin skin of peace.

5.
(https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/20100521__20100522_A02_ND22BONOp1.jpg?w=640)
We called him Bono (not to his face) but he looked like a bald version of him with his signature glasses. Wore a black fishnet shirt and loved using the rope attachment. Possibly had nipple rings.

Trying to think of other random people. Miss that gym. I’m sure it’s super flaming by now. This was early 2000s. Would fight that crazy neighbor for a free gym membership for life

Paul is a great guy.  We talked back at World but didn't really become friends until we were both at Golds on Commercial.  Dude is the most hilarious guy you will ever meet.  And I am not saying this just because we are friends, but he was 300lbs with legit abs and I am sure that while he never won anything at this peak, if you put him at his prime on this past Olympia stage, he would have finished in the Top 5.  He never had a bubble gut.  We went from Golds to LA Fitness (Federal and Cypress branches) and UFit (for a year).  He is now up north around Boca, Delray, WPB.  And is doing really well for himself.  The days of that gray Honda civic hatchback that he could barely get out of are gone.  Dude has a nice house and life.  Still in amazing shape.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdOojqZDh4r/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbBHF42jbhY/

Then there was MuscleMike - that made Vince Taylor look like he trained Dorian Yates style.  He would sit on machines and literally fall asleep at times.   And he never sweated.  Never.  He would camp out on a tricep extension machine for an hour.  Using 30lbs and doing 15-20 reps.  I honestly believe if he ever broke a sweat he would have exploded on the spot.  But had the greatest genetics you could imagine.  Dude could probably just read a muscle magazine and it would stimulate hypertrophy.  Unfortunately he had a bad meth problem and his dealer was also his boyfriend and his pimp.  And used to beat the shit out of him every other month.  Matt Mendenhall had nothing on this dude.

Let me see if I can find a photo of Jeff.



Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 30, 2025, 07:20:06 AM
WTF???  It says upload failed security when I try to do them individually.


Jeff - had to go back a long way for this one

Fernando - that dated an 80 year old man until that guy kicked him  out and then started a fling with Barney Frank and lost his mind when Barney met the other guy he eventually married.

Wayne - who's DIY homemade synthol was "not obvious at all".  Yeah, he really said that.   We all just stared at him.  Came back from that show crying about it was "politics".  Next week went up to Clearwater or Tampa (I can't remember) to do a show and was never seen again.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 30, 2025, 07:54:15 AM
Paul is a great guy.  We talked back at World but didn't really become friends until we were both at Golds on Commercial.  Dude is the most hilarious guy you will ever meet.  And I am not saying this just because we are friends, but he was 300lbs with legit abs and I am sure that while he never won anything at this peak, if you put him at his prime on this past Olympia stage, he would have finished in the Top 5.  He never had a bubble gut.  We went from Golds to LA Fitness (Federal and Cypress branches) and UFit (for a year).  He is now up north around Boca, Delray, WPB.  And is doing really well for himself.  The days of that gray Honda civic hatchback that he could barely get out of are gone.  Dude has a nice house and life.  Still in amazing shape.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdOojqZDh4r/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbBHF42jbhY/

Then there was MuscleMike - that made Vince Taylor look like he trained Dorian Yates style.  He would sit on machines and literally fall asleep at times.   And he never sweated.  Never.  He would camp out on a tricep extension machine for an hour.  Using 30lbs and doing 15-20 reps.  I honestly believe if he ever broke a sweat he would have exploded on the spot.  But had the greatest genetics you could imagine.  Dude could probably just read a muscle magazine and it would stimulate hypertrophy.  Unfortunately he had a bad meth problem and his dealer was also his boyfriend and his pimp.  And used to beat the shit out of him every other month.  Matt Mendenhall had nothing on this dude.

Let me see if I can find a photo of Jeff.
It's almost like elite genetics are a curse.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 30, 2025, 08:08:13 AM
Some fellas on a gear focused podcast said some study showed if you curled with no weight but squeezed as hard as possible you grew as much as the loaded group  :D
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Donny on October 30, 2025, 08:13:42 AM
Some fellas on a gear focused podcast said some study showed if you curled with no weight but squeezed as hard as possible you grew as much as the loaded group  :D

most of these guys have insecurity to the point of medication to even act normal utter Bellends who have no real idea about fitness
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 30, 2025, 08:58:57 AM
It's almost like elite genetics are a curse.

That is a great way to put it.
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: Rambone on October 30, 2025, 09:09:53 AM
WTF???  It says upload failed security when I try to do them individually.


Jeff - had to go back a long way for this one

Fernando - that dated an 80 year old man until that guy kicked him  out and then started a fling with Barney Frank and lost his mind when Barney met the other guy he eventually married.

Wayne - who's DIY homemade synthol was "not obvious at all".  Yeah, he really said that.   We all just stared at him.  Came back from that show crying about it was "politics".  Next week went up to Clearwater or Tampa (I can't remember) to do a show and was never seen again.

Wow nice detective work. That MuscleMike guy had some sick genetics. Never saw him though
Title: Re: gear prices...wtf
Post by: JK on October 31, 2025, 04:36:42 AM
I live in Poland and buy a 10 ml bottle of testosterone 250 mg for 90 PLN (25 USD).