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Title: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2025, 11:28:05 AM
Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 07, 2025, 01:48:33 PM
Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.

You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on November 07, 2025, 06:21:18 PM
You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.
Pot/kettle
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 07, 2025, 11:33:30 PM
You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.

At some point you would think he can’t possibly be this dumb.  But then he proves you wrong.  There are higher IQs in the morgue.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2025, 10:37:22 AM
At some point you would think he can’t possibly be this dumb.  But then he proves you wrong.  There are higher IQs in the morgue.

Anytime you’re ready, mouth

www.zoom.com
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Grape Ape on November 08, 2025, 11:43:42 AM
You obviously believe in, enjoy, and embrace your political fantasies. Unfortunately, these fantasies do not foster critical thinking, intelligent reasoning, and serious comprehension.

If so, you could have easily tried to counter his statement rather than resort to what you typed.

Please, further the discussion.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 08, 2025, 01:46:02 PM
Anytime you’re ready, mouth

www.zoom.com

You have been told over and over why no one is wasting time “debating” a retard.  For the same reasons listed above. Yet you don’t seem to understand it.   Did that stroke propel you to a new height of retardation that hasn’t been discovered yet?  Or are you naturally this stupid that you can’t understand simple explanations. 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 08, 2025, 01:51:16 PM
If so, you could have easily tried to counter his statement rather than resort to what you typed.

Please, further the discussion.

After the words “fake lockdown” and “fake J6” he didn’t have to.  There is no point in engaging with false facts nonsense.  Or someone that continually spouts exactly that.

By the same token feel free to further Qoach’s discussion with your own facts.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 08, 2025, 01:56:28 PM
Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.
Elon was duped into thinking he could help reduce government spending. Instead, they dragged Dogecoin’s name through the gutter with the ridiculous “DOGE” department, alienating everyone in the process. And in the end, it was all just political theater — Trump never had the guts to follow through on what he supposedly asked Elon to do.

So let’s stop pretending Trump was serious about cutting government expenses. It was an act. The truth is, neither Trump nor anyone else has a real path out of the U.S. debt crisis. We’re over $38 trillion in debt now. Even before Trump won his second election, it was obvious the debt problem was already beyond saving.

At this point, they might as well reopen the government and inflate the dollar into oblivion so we can reset. As long as crypto becomes far more valuable, I really couldn’t care less about the dollar.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 08, 2025, 01:58:36 PM
Elon was duped into thinking he could help reduce government spending. Instead, they dragged Dogecoin’s name through the gutter with the ridiculous “DOGE” department, alienating everyone in the process. And in the end, it was all just political theater — Trump never had the guts to follow through on what he supposedly asked Elon to do.

So let’s stop pretending Trump was serious about cutting government expenses. It was an act. The truth is, neither Trump nor anyone else has a real path out of the U.S. debt crisis. We’re over $38 trillion in debt now. Even before Trump won his second election, it was obvious the debt problem was already beyond saving.

At this point, they might as well reopen the government and inflate the dollar into oblivion so we can reset. As long as crypto becomes far more valuable, I really couldn’t care less about the dollar.

This guy understands it. 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 08, 2025, 02:02:33 PM
https://qz.com/us-national-debt-economy-kent-smetters-wharton

The economist counting down to America's debt doomsday

Kent Smetters, who runs the Penn Wharton Budget Model, has a forecast for when the economy's breaking point could arrive

He was once called “Dr. Doom and Gloom” on Wall Street. Not everything has changed for Kent Smetters, who runs the Penn Wharton Budget Model. His economic predictions remain gloomy, but imminent doom isn’t around the corner.

In his view, doom will land on America’s doorstep between 2045 and 2050, the breaking point for the U.S. economy. That’s the moment when, as Smetters sees it, the cost of interest payments on the national debt would become so large for the federal government that even a broad-based tax increase wouldn’t cut it anymore.

At that point, Smetters says, the U.S. government would enter either an explicit or implicit default, both with calamitous consequences. An explicit default renders the U.S. a global deadbeat. An implicit default theoretically occurs through debt monetization — which jacks up inflation — or by trimming Social Security and Medicare payments.

“This is when panic starts happening. This is the loss of faith in government,” Smetters told me. “That's what's doomed other societies as well. Before us, you can go all the way back to Rome, to France, Spain, the U.K., and Germany. Almost every empire has been taken down by debt.”

Smetters is part of a familiar group of fiscal hawks cycling in and out of Washington, which has all but surrendered to a national debt that swells in size with every passing day. The gross U.S. federal debt surpassed $38 trillion in October, per data from the Treasury Department. Put another way, total U.S. debt has grown by $66,225 each second so far in 2025, according to the Joint Economic Committee in Congress.

Those are staggering figures. But the growing U.S. debt isn’t likely to be tamed anytime soon. President Donald Trump and a GOP-led Congress brushed aside concerns about fiscal discipline when they muscled through the so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” with a $3.4 trillion price tag this summer.

‘Neither party has any credibility’

Tackling the debt has periodically cropped up as a priority in Congress. The most well-known effort in recent times was the bipartisan Simpson-Bowles Commission in 2011. Lawmakers in both chambers convened to strike an austerity deal the country could live with. It didn’t take long for those belt-tightening efforts to collapse, triggering automatic cuts in the ensuing years. A striking resignation has sunk in even among hardened spending-battle veterans.

“Frankly neither party has any credibility on that issue anymore,” Virginia Democratic Sen. Mark Warner, who sat on the Simpson-Bowles panel, told me a couple years ago. The U.S. debt at the time registered $32 trillion, a ballooning amount he believed was going to “come back and bite us.”
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 08, 2025, 02:04:06 PM
Bankrupt US wants Venezuela's resources.

Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2025, 03:15:35 PM
Elon was duped into thinking he could help reduce government spending. Instead, they dragged Dogecoin’s name through the gutter with the ridiculous “DOGE” department, alienating everyone in the process. And in the end, it was all just political theater — Trump never had the guts to follow through on what he supposedly asked Elon to do.

So let’s stop pretending Trump was serious about cutting government expenses. It was an act. The truth is, neither Trump nor anyone else has a real path out of the U.S. debt crisis. We’re over $38 trillion in debt now. Even before Trump won his second election, it was obvious the debt problem was already beyond saving.

At this point, they might as well reopen the government and inflate the dollar into oblivion so we can reset. As long as crypto becomes far more valuable, I really couldn’t care less about the dollar.

What the hell re you talking about? Did you post this in the right thread? I’m not talking about any of that?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Grape Ape on November 08, 2025, 07:23:27 PM
After the words “fake lockdown” and “fake J6” he didn’t have to.  There is no point in engaging with false facts nonsense.  Or someone that continually spouts exactly that.

By the same token feel free to further Qoach’s discussion with your own facts.

Wait, you think this lockdown isn't political?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 08, 2025, 08:09:33 PM
Wait, you think this lockdown isn't political?

Of course it is.  So they don’t have to swear in new members who will force a vote on Epstein Files. 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2025, 08:15:41 PM
Of course it is.  So they don’t have to swear in new members who will force a vote on Epstein Files.

Dipshit…I’m talking about the fake scamdemic lockdowns…fuck. Wait? Did you really just bring up the Epstein files again? Hahahahahahahaa…holy shit hahahahahahh

This isn’t a lockdown. This is a government shutdown.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 08, 2025, 10:43:46 PM
What the hell re you talking about? Did you post this in the right thread? I’m not talking about any of that?
I didn’t post that off-topic — it ties in directly. The whole Elon / Doge Department thing showed how fake the GOP’s “cut spending” narrative really was. Elon thought he was helping reduce government waste, and instead they turned it into a PR stunt that trashed Dogecoin’s name — which I actually care about since I still have some Dogecoins from 2021.

So when people now blame Democrats for the shutdown, it’s the same hypocrisy all over again. The same Republicans who pushed the massive “Big Beautiful Bill” are suddenly pretending to care about fiscal responsibility? Please. Both sides share blame, but let’s not act like Trump or his crew were ever serious about cutting government spending. It was all theater then, and it’s still theater now.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 08, 2025, 11:40:56 PM
Dipshit…I’m talking about the fake scamdemic lockdowns…fuck. Wait? Did you really just bring up the Epstein files again? Hahahahahahahaa…holy shit hahahahahahh

This isn’t a lockdown. This is a government shutdown.

Someone is obviously too stupid to understand simple English.  Especially when it’s the very words that they wrote themselves. Which isn’t surprising.  You prove it everyday that you have the comprehension skills of yogurt.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 08, 2025, 11:43:38 PM
It’s really hilarious to see the MAGAturds try to blame Dems for people not receiving their SNAP at the same time the Orange Turd is actively in court fighting to keep it from them. 

It’s no big surprise that every shut down in the past 30 occurred when the Republicans controlled the House.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2025, 07:33:15 AM
Someone is obviously too stupid to understand simple English.  Especially when it’s the very words that they wrote themselves. Which isn’t surprising.  You prove it everyday that you have the comprehension skills of yogurt.

Out of all seriousness, you need to just stay out of it. You’re right up there with funk with not knowing what the fuck you’re talking about while trolling. Seriously.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2025, 07:51:53 AM
I didn’t post that off-topic — it ties in directly. The whole Elon / Doge Department thing showed how fake the GOP’s “cut spending” narrative really was. Elon thought he was helping reduce government waste, and instead they turned it into a PR stunt that trashed Dogecoin’s name — which I actually care about since I still have some Dogecoins from 2021.

So when people now blame Democrats for the shutdown, it’s the same hypocrisy all over again. The same Republicans who pushed the massive “Big Beautiful Bill” are suddenly pretending to care about fiscal responsibility? Please. Both sides share blame, but let’s not act like Trump or his crew were ever serious about cutting government spending. It was all theater then, and it’s still theater now.

Good Lord, Obsidian. Are you serious? Do you understand what’s going on with these shutdowns? Read my OP again. This is about nothing else but to sabotage Trumps agenda whether you like him or not. We can get into DOGE later but in that note while it didn’t reach the government waste, 1 trillion as predicted it did shrink useless Government jobs by a 150k including eliminating USAID and other agencies that were all but worthless. And to add that, and speaking of the deficit. The CBO was forced to admit that the tariffs reduced the deficit by $4 trillion.

Let’s also be reminded that under the fake Biden administration 13 bipartisan clean CR’s were passed with relatively no problems. This is about Trump and nothing else.

And this…we woke up to this headline



Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on November 09, 2025, 10:52:03 AM
Elon was duped into thinking he could help reduce government spending. Instead, they dragged Dogecoin’s name through the gutter with the ridiculous “DOGE” department, alienating everyone in the process. And in the end, it was all just political theater — Trump never had the guts to follow through on what he supposedly asked Elon to do.

So let’s stop pretending Trump was serious about cutting government expenses. It was an act. The truth is, neither Trump nor anyone else has a real path out of the U.S. debt crisis. We’re over $38 trillion in debt now. Even before Trump won his second election, it was obvious the debt problem was already beyond saving.

At this point, they might as well reopen the government and inflate the dollar into oblivion so we can reset. As long as crypto becomes far more valuable, I really couldn’t care less about the dollar.
The government isn't in the business of running efficiently, never has been. I have a huge reservation about crypto. There's several of you guys hanging your hats on it, scary.

I didn’t post that off-topic — it ties in directly. The whole Elon / Doge Department thing showed how fake the GOP’s “cut spending” narrative really was. Elon thought he was helping reduce government waste, and instead they turned it into a PR stunt that trashed Dogecoin’s name — which I actually care about since I still have some Dogecoins from 2021.

So when people now blame Democrats for the shutdown, it’s the same hypocrisy all over again. The same Republicans who pushed the massive “Big Beautiful Bill” are suddenly pretending to care about fiscal responsibility? Please. Both sides share blame, but let’s not act like Trump or his crew were ever serious about cutting government spending. It was all theater then, and it’s still theater now.
They have voted 14 times to reopen the government, the dems have voted no every time. How do you think they don't own this? Let's not pretend dems care about people when they've been all over the media talking about how they are using the people on snap as "leverage", the exact word they have used multiple times to describe the people they are keeping benefits from, in their position to keep the government shut down.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2025, 12:07:50 PM
Out of all seriousness, you need to just stay out of it. You’re right up there with funk with not knowing what the fuck you’re talking about while trolling. Seriously.

Says the little retard that can’t keep CTs out of his head.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2025, 12:34:15 PM
Says the little retard that can’t keep CTs out of his head.

Nothing says CT like thinking it was because if the Epstein files, holy shit 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2025, 12:44:04 PM
If so, you could have easily tried to counter his statement rather than resort to what you typed.

Please, further the discussion.

Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2025, 01:57:48 PM
If so, you could have easily tried to counter his statement rather than resort to what you typed.

Please, further the discussion.

Funk, stay out of this one. You’re incapable of intelligent reasoning, conversation, comprehension or any form of critical thinking

In case you haven’t put two and two together yet. This shutdown was planned and it was planned to go on for long as needed to try to change the narrative to use for the midterms.

Jobs losses (since October) markets, everything. This is the lefts MO. They did it with the fake lockdowns and they did it with the fake J6 “insurrection”.  All designed to sabotage Trumps agenda that 89% of the country mandated.  Lets have this discussion.

What is left to discuss? What I typed is pretty much verbatim what Coach posted to Funk. So yes, I resorted to repeating what Coach typed because ‘if the shoe fits, wear it.’

Which job loses is Coach referring to? Many of them were instigated by Trump's agenda. The job losses since October 2025 are primarily a result of an ongoing government shutdown and the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) initiative, with around 670,000 to 750,000 employees furloughed and some tens of thousands facing layoffs due to DOGE. Additionally, federal job losses are part of a broader trend of over one million total layoffs in the US in 2025, driven by a mix of cost-cutting, AI, and the DOGE impact. U.S. employers announced 153,074 job cuts in October, which was up 175% from the 55,597 cuts announced in October 2024. These cuts have little to do with the government shutdown.

Neither the Covid lockdowns nor the 'Capitol attack' have anything to do with the current government shutdown as Coach implies it does.

The lockdowns during COVID were very real, although in retrospect they were something of a knee jerk reaction as a result of fear of the COVID pandemic. They were not politically motivated by the left.

Regardless of what anyone, including Coach calls the January 6th events at the Capital, they were a complete fiasco. Trump attempted using an army of his MAGA followers to storm the Capitol to try and overturn the 2020 election results. Despite the January 6, 2021, break-in and damage to the Capital, which Trump instigated and watched but chose not to take any action to stop, his plan failed greatly. Pence refused to fall in line, despite the angry crowd calling for him to be hanged. After nearly nine hours the Capital was cleared of the intruders the Senate reconvened. Congress officially proclaimed Joe Biden the victor when it certified the Electoral College results in a joint session on January 7, 2021, at approximately 3:45 a.m.

If the shutdown was the left's M.O as Coach said, why was it shut down by the GOP? Of course, the current shutdown was likely planned. Would Coach have preferred it to not have been planned as in the 35-day shutdown in 2018 when Paul Ryan was House Speaker and Trump was in office? This time, it was Speaker Johnson who sent the House Reps home on September 29, 2025, and he has yet to reconvene. This would appear to be his modus operandi since he called an early start to the "House August recess" July 22, 2025, a move many believe was to avoid a vote on releasing the Epstein files. This recess lasted for six weeks.

 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: deadz on November 09, 2025, 02:49:09 PM
I hope to never see the Govt. re-open. Let's starve the trash of this Country!
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2025, 02:54:49 PM
I hope to never see the Govt. re-open. Let's starve the trash of this Country!

So says the house 2-year old mentality Getbig commentator. ::)
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: deadz on November 09, 2025, 03:05:57 PM
So says the house 2-year old mentality Getbig commentator. ::)
Shut up, you'll soon be 6 feet under and no one gives a shit, Turd!
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2025, 03:23:42 PM
Nothing says CT like thinking it was because if the Epstein files, holy shit 😂😂😂

Except fake birth certificates, stolen elections, covid assassinations and pizza parlor sex rings. 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2025, 03:31:16 PM
Shut up, you'll soon be 6 feet under and no one gives a shit, Turd!

Reply as expected.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 09, 2025, 04:09:35 PM
Good Lord, Obsidian. Are you serious? Do you understand what’s going on with these shutdowns? Read my OP again. This is about nothing else but to sabotage Trumps agenda whether you like him or not. We can get into DOGE later but in that note while it didn’t reach the government waste, 1 trillion as predicted it did shrink useless Government jobs by a 150k including eliminating USAID and other agencies that were all but worthless. And to add that, and speaking of the deficit. The CBO was forced to admit that the tariffs reduced the deficit by $4 trillion.

Let’s also be reminded that under the fake Biden administration 13 bipartisan clean CR’s were passed with relatively no problems. This is about Trump and nothing else.

And this…we woke up to this headline
The One Big Beautiful Bill adds roughly $3.4 trillion to ~$4 trillion in deficits over the next decade - correct?

Trump is all over the place. First he was bitching that the US spent too much on the military. Now he advocates for more spending - $1 trillion.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-military-spending-arms-race-1241608

Donald Trump Slams Massive Military Spending He Once Celebrated, Bemoans ‘Uncontrollable Arms Race’

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1069584730880974849

@realDonaldTrump
I am certain that, at some time in the future, President Xi and I, together with President Putin of Russia, will start talking about a meaningful halt to what has become a major and uncontrollable Arms Race. The U.S. spent 716 Billion Dollars this year. Crazy!

And now?

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2025-06/news/trump-proposes-trillion-dollar-defense-budget

Trump Proposes Trillion Dollar Defense Budget

U.S. President Donald Trump has proposed the first ever $1 trillion defense budget, but his administration’s plan to reach that total has left some congressional defense leaders dissatisfied.

He's not consistent.

The shutdown costs more than the funding it blocks, hurts federal workers and private businesses, and delays everything from food assistance to scientific research. The supposed fiscal “principle” behind it evaporates once you look at the numbers.

If Congress agreed to fund the subsidies for one year, the immediate fiscal impact is roughly $25 billion.

But after 4 weeks, the shutdown has already cost $40–70 billion to the economy — more than double the cost of a full year of the healthcare subsidies being debated.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 09, 2025, 04:27:50 PM
The government isn't in the business of running efficiently, never has been. I have a huge reservation about crypto. There's several of you guys hanging your hats on it, scary.
They have voted 14 times to reopen the government, the dems have voted no every time. How do you think they don't own this? Let's not pretend dems care about people when they've been all over the media talking about how they are using the people on snap as "leverage", the exact word they have used multiple times to describe the people they are keeping benefits from, in their position to keep the government shut down.
And I have serious reservations about the U.S. dollar. There’s a reason the national debt keeps rising — just like the cost of everything else. The dollar has been steadily losing value since 1913, and that’s no secret.

Yes, crypto is risky. But some of us see it as a potential hedge against the dollar’s ongoing decline. Trump seemed supportive of crypto, but then he launched his own meme coin, which siphoned liquidity away from more legitimate blockchain projects. He and his family used those tokens to cash in on naďve, speculative investors, then funneled the profits into established assets like Ethereum and Bitcoin. Now Eric Trump is boasting about making billions from crypto — did they short the market right before Trump announced new tariffs?!

I agree that Democrats don’t care about the people — but neither do Republicans. The U.S. effectively operates under a one-party system. That’s why Elon Musk launched the American Party: he recognized that breaking through the entrenched “Deep State” system requires a completely new political movement.

https://financialpost.com/financial-times/trump-companies-us1-billion-crypto

Eric Trump told the FT in June that $TRUMP was “by far the most successful memecoin” in part because the industry “was showing a lot of love to my father.”

Look at the chart. They rugged it and made money on the backs of people who bought.

(https://i.postimg.cc/brDCfypR/TRUMP.jpg)
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on November 09, 2025, 06:23:00 PM
And I have serious reservations about the U.S. dollar. There’s a reason the national debt keeps rising — just like the cost of everything else. The dollar has been steadily losing value since 1913, and that’s no secret.

Yes, crypto is risky. But some of us see it as a potential hedge against the dollar’s ongoing decline. Trump seemed supportive of crypto, but then he launched his own meme coin, which siphoned liquidity away from more legitimate blockchain projects. He and his family used those tokens to cash in on naďve, speculative investors, then funneled the profits into established assets like Ethereum and Bitcoin. Now Eric Trump is boasting about making billions from crypto — did they short the market right before Trump announced new tariffs?!

I agree that Democrats don’t care about the people — but neither do Republicans. The U.S. effectively operates under a one-party system. That’s why Elon Musk launched the American Party: he recognized that breaking through the entrenched “Deep State” system requires a completely new political movement.

https://financialpost.com/financial-times/trump-companies-us1-billion-crypto

Eric Trump told the FT in June that $TRUMP was “by far the most successful memecoin” in part because the industry “was showing a lot of love to my father.”

Look at the chart. They rugged it and made money on the backs of people who bought.

(https://i.postimg.cc/brDCfypR/TRUMP.jpg)
And you believe crypto is immune to inflation? You seem sort of obsessed with Trump, can you reply without mentioning him?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2025, 07:06:53 PM
Except fake birth certificates, stolen elections, covid assassinations and pizza parlor sex rings.

Yep…that’s right. While you’re 0-1000 I’m a 1000-0
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2025, 08:36:57 PM
Yep…that’s right. While you’re 0-1000 I’m a 1000-0

Yeah with your taking arrows in the knee every single time. 

Is there any pain related to your level of retardation?   
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 09, 2025, 09:11:00 PM
And you believe crypto is immune to inflation? You seem sort of obsessed with Trump, can you reply without mentioning him?
I voted for Trump every year he ran. Just saying he's been a disappointment. I'm not blindly loyal. I need to see results, and no BS. With Trump, I feel like he's on a wrestling stage playing a script. Like when he shaved Vince's hair. I know when I see BS. Trump is captured by the Jews and he does their bidding. He does what the Deep State tells him to do.

Crypto is volatile, sure. But unlike the dollar, which has been bleeding value for decades under inflation and fiat erosion, digital assets still have genuine upside potential. They can multiply in value over time, while the dollar just keeps sliding.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 10, 2025, 12:50:47 AM
It's finally over.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: GymnJuice on November 10, 2025, 01:46:51 PM
And you believe crypto is immune to inflation? You seem sort of obsessed with Trump, can you reply without mentioning him?

I'm no expert on all cryptocurrencies, but Bitcoin specifically has a hard cap of 21 million coins. That should shield it from inflation. However, it doesn't protect against devaluation. A government could still outlaw it outright.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: AbrahamG on November 10, 2025, 04:10:54 PM
I voted for Trump every year he ran. Just saying he's been a disappointment. I'm not blindly loyal. I need to see results, and no BS. With Trump, I feel like he's on a wrestling stage playing a script. Like when he shaved Vince's hair. I know when I see BS. Trump is captured by the Jews and he does their bidding. He does what the Deep State tells him to do.

Crypto is volatile, sure. But unlike the dollar, which has been bleeding value for decades under inflation and fiat erosion, digital assets still have genuine upside potential. They can multiply in value over time, while the dollar just keeps sliding.

He's (Trump) a neocon masquerading as a populist. 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on November 10, 2025, 04:19:40 PM

Crypto is volatile, sure. But unlike the dollar, which has been bleeding value for decades under inflation and fiat erosion, digital assets still have genuine upside potential. They can multiply in value over time, while the dollar just keeps sliding.
Potential but not recognized. I am leery of the ability of any government to come along and criminalize crypto in an effort to control it. Just seems fairly sketchy to have a high percentage of your lifes value in crypto. What stops any government from coming in and taking control of crypto? Plus I feel like it might be secretly being pushed by the government as a way to get everyone on board with a one currency world. I have questions!!
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 11, 2025, 12:16:03 PM
He's (Trump) a neocon masquerading as a populist.

Two things that MAGA has no understanding of.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 11, 2025, 02:16:55 PM
I voted for Trump every year he ran. Just saying he's been a disappointment. I'm not blindly loyal. I need to see results, and no BS. With Trump, I feel like he's on a wrestling stage playing a script. Like when he shaved Vince's hair. I know when I see BS. Trump is captured by the Jews and he does their bidding. He does what the Deep State tells him to do.

Crypto is volatile, sure. But unlike the dollar, which has been bleeding value for decades under inflation and fiat erosion, digital assets still have genuine upside potential. They can multiply in value over time, while the dollar just keeps sliding.

I’m not blindly loyal to anyone either and as a disclaimer, I know next to nothing about crypto. But aside from crypto I pay attention to policy and most strategies VERY closely. For the most part you and I use different sources which is why it was pretty useless to even counter in your post from a few days ago (aside the fact I was out of town and couldn’t respond).

Bottom line, he’s been doing everything we voted for and most of it was accomplished in this first year. He’s even he won the majority of his court cases that were challenged in the lower courts that were appealed either to the appellate and/or SCOTUS. I don’t agree with his suggestion of a 50 year mortgage, as an example. It’s a ridiculous proposal. As far as the shutdown, it proved who was at fault with this. Not Elon or even more ridiculous, “Epstein” files conspiracy. I’ll respond later to your other post but what you failed to show is the 2.4 million jobs added in the private sectors as well as the almost $20 trillion (with a T) in US investment bringing manufacturing back to the US. NVIDIA just hit $5 trillion in valuation.

If he loses the SCOTUS decision on the tariffs it’s because his attorneys basically didn’t argue the case properly. I try to listen to most of the important arguments live so I can understand why sometimes things go the way they go.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 11, 2025, 02:19:02 PM
Two things that MAGA has no understanding of.

The “Epstein files” 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 11, 2025, 05:13:32 PM
The “Epstein files” 🤣🤣🤣

"Fake birth certificate"
"Stolen elections"
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: illuminati on November 11, 2025, 06:41:25 PM
"Fake birth certificate"
"Stolen elections"

"49 expert signatures"
"Biden is fully cognitive"
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: AbrahamG on November 11, 2025, 07:46:12 PM
Pizza Gate
Blocking the release of the Epstein files. 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 11, 2025, 07:58:35 PM
Pizza Gate
Blocking the release of the Epstein files.

1. Yep

2. 33,000 pages released
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on November 12, 2025, 02:34:42 PM
Pizza Gate
Blocking the release of the Epstein files.
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
"Ask not what your country can do for you"
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2025, 02:44:08 PM
"49 expert signatures"
"Biden is fully cognitive"

That's exactly what he believes. 


He can walk and talk just fine.  Like everyone doesn’t trip.  ::)


Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 12, 2025, 04:04:31 PM
That's exactly what he believes.

Someone is mighty quiet about Trumpys mental decline.  Oh wait, there isn't a decline.  He was always this stupid.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 12, 2025, 04:05:02 PM
Pizza Gate
Blocking the release of the Epstein files.

And that pizza parlor didn't even have a basement where it was supposed to occur.   :D :D
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on November 12, 2025, 05:24:08 PM
Someone is mighty quiet about Trumpys mental decline.  Oh wait, there isn't a decline.  He was always this stupid.
Stupid enough to be your president. ;D
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2025, 05:59:31 PM
Stupid enough to be your president. ;D

And richer, with a better looking wife, house, etc. 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2025, 12:31:18 PM
Stupid enough to be your president. ;D

It is more like voters were stupid enough to elect him to office -- twice.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: deadz on November 13, 2025, 01:00:29 PM
It is more like voters were stupid enough to elect him to office -- twice.
Libscum, dumbest c unts on the planet. Go clean a toilet bowl, Clown!
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Grape Ape on November 13, 2025, 01:04:12 PM
It is more like voters were stupid enough to elect him to office -- twice.

Why were they stupid?

You can't see the other side - the Biden health cover up, the appointment of Harris, the open borders, the catering to the woke, the mishandling of covid, etc........why can't you see the legitimate reasons for not voting Harris.

Is it just easier to label his voters stupid?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: illuminati on November 13, 2025, 01:27:04 PM
It is more like voters were stupid enough to elect him to office -- twice.

Either you're very narrow minded or just not to bright
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on November 13, 2025, 03:09:32 PM
It is more like voters were stupid enough to elect him to office -- twice.
Funny you would call half the country stupid.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: deadz on November 13, 2025, 03:14:28 PM
Funny you would call half the country stupid.
The fucking career janitor is the smartest man alive. Fucking degenerate!
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 13, 2025, 04:30:33 PM
And richer, with a better looking wife, house, etc.

And fatter, more divorced, sleeping in separate bedrooms, a felon and convicted sex offender, more bankruptcies, etc...
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: illuminati on November 13, 2025, 06:05:01 PM
And fatter, more divorced, sleeping in separate bedrooms, a felon and convicted sex offender, more bankruptcies, etc...


And what have you to say about Clinton inviting Epstein 17 times to the Whitehouse
And Visiting his island 28times
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2025, 01:12:26 AM
Why were they stupid?

You can't see the other side - the Biden health cover up, the appointment of Harris, the open borders, the catering to the woke, the mishandling of covid, etc........why can't you see the legitimate reasons for not voting Harris.

Is it just easier to label his voters stupid?

-Guess you haven't been following the news then... oh wait, any news you don't like or agree with is fake news. Oh well, 'you are living the dream' so who am I to mess with it? Enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 14, 2025, 05:15:03 AM

And what have you to say about Clinton inviting Epstein 17 times to the Whitehouse
And Visiting his island 28times

I'd say that MAGAtards sure seem to be interested in protecting him by not releasing all the files.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: illuminati on November 14, 2025, 05:54:45 AM
I'd say that MAGAtards sure seem to be interested in protecting him by not releasing all the files.

I may be wrong - only wasn't there just a vote to release them
& the Pervocrats voted it down.

Do you say Clinton should be investigated as very clearly he was
very good friends with Epstein.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2025, 01:39:33 PM
I may be wrong - only wasn't there just a vote to release them
& the Pervocrats voted it down.

Do you say Clinton should be investigated as very clearly he was
very good friends with Epstein.

Yes Illuminati, you are wrong about there being a resent vote on releasing the Epstein files, which Democrats voted down.

The House vote to release the Epstein files has not been taken yet. According to Mike Johnson, the vote will be taken next week.  The required number of lawmakers have signed the discharge petition. This is despite the fact that Trump tried unsuccessfully to get Lauren Boebert, a Republican representative from Colorado, and Nancy Mace, from South Carolina, to remove their names from a discharge petition. If everyone who signed the petition supports it on the House floor, it will pass.

After the bill passes in the House, it goes to the Senate for a vote. Republicans hold a 53–47 majority it takes 60 votes to move the bill to final passage. So, if it does not pass in the Senate, it won't be because Democrats blocked it.

Should the bill pass the Senate, the next step is for Trump to sign off on it. In this case, he is expected to veto the bill. If he does this, the veto can be overridden with a two-thirds vote in both chambers.

Lastly, if the bill gets through, it may take up to 30 days before the files are released.

The work of the House's Oversight Committee has resulted in thousands of pages of documents being released, including more than 20,000 on Wednesday. It is from these documents that  the Epstein related email communications have been released. The Oversight Committee has a Republican majority.

Logically, no matter what happens here on out, it will not be Democrats who block the release of the Epstein files.

As expected, Trump is in meltdown mode right now. I read that his most recent posts on Truth Social are just plain nuts.

Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2025, 02:24:34 PM
https://x.com/timburchett/status/1989026827906494768?s=46

https://x.com/timburchett/status/1988728014725890359?s=46
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2025, 02:38:21 PM
-Guess you haven't been following the news then... oh wait, any news you don't like or agree with is fake news. Oh well, 'you are living the dream' so who am I to mess with it? Enjoy yourself.

I have to follow the news to get the answer to why YOU think they're stupid?  I was asking for your opinion.

As for your second sentence, that's fake news.  When I call out fake news, I tend to provide a link or a source explaining why it's fake.  It has nothing to do with whether I agree or disagree with the premise.

This is becoming typical for you - you deflect or ignore when you can't provide an answer, but you'll happily engage in page long insult fests.

You did not used to be like this.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 14, 2025, 03:18:47 PM

And what have you to say about Clinton inviting Epstein 17 times to the Whitehouse
And Visiting his island 28times

Epstein said in emails that Clinton was never on the island.   LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.  Now what?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2025, 02:44:15 PM

And what have you to say about Clinton inviting Epstein 17 times to the Whitehouse
And Visiting his island 28times

My suspicion is there will be many more folks implicated in wrong doings because of their association with Epstein and Maxwell. Epstein and Maxwell socialized with a wide array of wealthy and powerful individuals across political, academic, business, and entertainment circles. Ms. Maxwell used her connections as the daughter of British media mogul Robert Maxwell to introduce Epstein to high society figures. Prince Andrew recently lost his title because of the implications of his association with Epstein and Maxwell.   

Ghislaine Maxwell told a top official of the Department of Justice that former President Bill Clinton never visited Jeffrey Epstein's private island estate. Most people believe Ghislaine Maxwell is a liar and an unreliable witness. Ghislaine Maxwell was moved after she was interviewed by the Deputy U.S. Attorney General to Federal Prison Camp (FPC), 'Club' Bryan, a minimum-security women's prison in Bryan, Texas. During her interview she testified, “I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any way,” Maxwell told Blanche. “The President was never inappropriate with anybody. Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly formally asked President Trump to commute her 20-year sentence for child sex trafficking. Trump has consistently declined to rule commuting her out.

The saying that comes to mind is "The bigger they are, the harder they fall." 
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2025, 03:22:19 PM
I have to follow the news to get the answer to why YOU think they're stupid?  I was asking for your opinion.

As for your second sentence, that's fake news.  When I call out fake news, I tend to provide a link or a source explaining why it's fake.  It has nothing to do with whether I agree or disagree with the premise.

This is becoming typical for you - you deflect or ignore when you can't provide an answer, but you'll happily engage in page long insult fests.

You did not used to be like this.

Thanks for asking my opinion. I do not believe our intuition, no matter how good it is, is a reliable basis for our opinions. Not being an expert, since it is not possible for me to be everywhere all the time and know everyone personally, some of what I base my opinion on is what I read in the media, both left leaning and right leaning.

What do you base your opinions on? What in your opinion determines what is or isn't fake news.

Do you believe you know me well enough and long enough to know what is typical of my personality? Or are you simply stating your opinion of me?

Although I believe I am essentially same person I have always been, I no doubt have changed some over time. Don't we all?


Guess you haven't been following the news then... oh wait, any news you don't like or agree with is fake news. Oh well, 'you are living the dream' so who am I to mess with it? Enjoy yourself.

Where in the post you responded to, which for reference I have shown above, deflects, ignores the question, or contains along insult fest?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: obsidian on November 24, 2025, 12:46:06 PM
Bottom line, he’s been doing everything we voted for and most of it was accomplished in this first year.
He hasn’t delivered.

He claimed he would end the Ukraine war in a single day with one phone call. Yet the war continues, and the U.S. is still supplying weapons to Ukraine. Remember the Tomahawk missile initiative?

He also said there would be no more wars. But the U.S. has already struck Iran and is now on the brink of escalating against Venezuela. We’ve seen this playbook before—when Iraq was invaded under the false pretext of WMDs. The current “drug trafficking” justification is just as flimsy. Most of the drug flow originates from Colombia. What the U.S. really wants is Venezuela’s resources. Trump is simply continuing the agenda of previous administrations.

He is also extremely pro-Israel. That wasn’t what I voted for, and increased alignment with Israel is the last thing America needs. It’s been a major factor holding the U.S. back for decades.

Meanwhile, the U.S. debt keeps climbing. The “Big Beautiful Bill” added trillions in spending. The DOGE department is gone. There’s no sign of serious fiscal restraint.

So no—I’m not impressed with Trump so far. What exactly has he accomplished?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: illuminati on December 21, 2025, 07:34:19 PM
Democrat beliefs

Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2025, 01:05:59 PM
Democrat beliefs

What is your source for the photo of the "fishing boat"?
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on December 22, 2025, 02:32:37 PM
What is your source for the photo of the "fishing boat"?
cnn
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: illuminati on December 22, 2025, 04:36:04 PM
What is your source for the photo of the "fishing boat"?

And thats all you have as a reply 🙄
Ignore everything else, just ask about the drugs boat.

TDS & Libturd blindness.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: chaos on December 22, 2025, 05:14:58 PM
And thats all you have as a reply 🙄
Ignore everything else, just ask about the drugs boat.

TDS & Libturd blindness.
Libs defending drug runners to round out 2025
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: illuminati on December 22, 2025, 07:07:56 PM
Libs defending drug runners to round out 2025


Yep their Mentality/ thinking is off the scale bizarre !!
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 23, 2025, 12:28:13 AM
Libs defending drug runners to round out 2025
Anything to go against Trump.
Title: Re: Democrats shut down goes on….
Post by: Primemuscle on December 23, 2025, 01:19:29 PM
cnn  ;D