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Title: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Lartinos on January 08, 2026, 07:01:46 PM
The Department of Agriculture has released a new set of dietary guidelines, and it includes a food pyramid that looks very different from the one you probably remember.

Championing protein and healthy fats while minimizing grains, the new nutrition recommendations, announced Jan. 7, are a departure from past government guidance. In fact, the accompanying food pyramid visual is a near complete inverse of what it once was, both visually and in terms of content.

In a White House news briefing, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said the announcement aligned with President Donald Trump and Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s promises to "Make America Healthy Again."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2026/01/07/old-food-pyramid-versus-rfk-jr-new-food-pyramid/88068047007/#
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 08, 2026, 07:19:21 PM
Fuck a Food Pyramid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111   LOL  :D
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: mphgrove on January 08, 2026, 08:06:29 PM
Fuck a Food Pyramid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111   LOL  :D

Agree, not a fan of generalized food pyramids because physiologies range all over the place. The new pyramid works for someone with lipids fully under control but with some insulin sensitivity (I eat that according to new pyramid) but the old pyramid might be better for someone with high cholesterol but normal blood sugar.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on January 08, 2026, 10:01:15 PM
Looks like excellent common sense food advice. What took them so long? The processed food industry has way too much power and lobbyists. About time they get handcuffed.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 09, 2026, 12:52:27 AM
Much better than what we were taught but also expensive.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: GymnJuice on January 09, 2026, 03:11:20 AM
I will remain skeptical of this pyramid until Wiggs lets me know who really built it.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 09, 2026, 03:15:04 AM
Following that food pyramid will give you pyramid shits.  :P
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 09, 2026, 04:15:13 AM
"Protein" itself wasn't a category on the popular diet visual until 2011, at which time it was still suggested in smaller portions. The latest guidelines not only focus on protein as a category, but the suggested intake has increased to 1.2-1.6 grams per kilogram of body weight per day, up from the previous long-standing minimum of 0.8g/kg."

Not joswift approved. Double the protein! :o

My docs have all been protein-phobic. Especially if they hear about "protein shakes." Yet at hospital I got meal replacement protein shakes.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: _bruce_ on January 09, 2026, 04:36:56 AM


Good food is expensive and hard to come by.
I have to run in circles to get raw milk since Mrs. Hartlova has retired.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 09, 2026, 05:21:29 AM
Much better than what we were taught but also expensive.

It's not.

You don't have to shop at Whole Foods.

All it really amounts to is dropping refined carbs and processed foods.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 09, 2026, 05:29:13 AM
It's not.

You don't have to shop at Whole Foods.

All it really amounts to is dropping refined carbs and processed foods.
Eggs are always a great option.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2026, 05:33:22 AM
It's not.

You don't have to shop at Whole Foods.

All it really amounts to is dropping refined carbs and processed foods. visiting the Glory hole

FFS Dude....
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 09, 2026, 05:38:43 AM
FFS Dude....

Donny Dweeb makes his usual stupid comment.

You really are an idiot, Donny Dweeb.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 09, 2026, 05:39:40 AM
Eggs are always a great option.

Wes know.

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Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 09, 2026, 05:44:37 AM
2025

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2014

Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2026, 05:47:37 AM
Donny Dweeb makes his usual stupid comment.

You really are an idiot, Donny Dweeb.

Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Rambone on January 09, 2026, 06:42:27 AM
Will consuming tallow give me a whiny voice?
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 09, 2026, 08:15:37 AM
Where is sausage and gravy on the chart? Ready made hello fresh meals? Emily's home cooking?

Rfk Jr clearly doesn't want people to get big.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 09, 2026, 08:26:57 AM
Wes know.

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Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 10, 2026, 12:22:14 AM
It's not.

You don't have to shop at Whole Foods.

All it really amounts to is dropping refined carbs and processed foods.
But those carbs and processed foods are cheaper, that's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 10, 2026, 03:47:20 AM
In b4 grain lobby activates shadow assets. Rest in Peace, sweet dreamer.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 10, 2026, 03:49:43 AM
Why are bananas on the chart? They are GMO sugar bars
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 10, 2026, 03:52:44 AM
But those carbs and processed foods are cheaper, that's all I'm saying.

Yes, I don't think it's realistic
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 10, 2026, 08:34:57 AM
But those carbs and processed foods are cheaper, that's all I'm saying.

Insulin isn't.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Grape Ape on January 10, 2026, 08:52:02 AM
Wonder why they put canned green beans on the pic
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: deadz on January 10, 2026, 09:10:56 AM
FAT FUCKS will never change their eating habits.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: chaos on January 10, 2026, 09:12:01 AM
FAT FUCKS will never change their eating habits.
Stop picking on liberals! :D
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 10, 2026, 09:21:51 AM
Stop picking on liberals Donny! :D
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: MajorDomo on January 10, 2026, 12:43:14 PM
Why are bananas on the chart? They are GMO sugar bars

And extremely high fiber- which negates the sugar content.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Rambone on January 10, 2026, 01:05:57 PM
Why are bananas on the chart? They are GMO sugar bars

Upon further research, GMO bananas don’t currently appear to available at your grocery store.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 10, 2026, 01:15:49 PM
And extremely high fiber- which negates the sugar content.

Uhm...no.

A medium banana contains about 27 grams of total carbohydrates, but when you subtract the 3 grams of fiber, the net carbs are approximately 24 grams. The net carb content can vary slightly depending on the banana's size and ripeness.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 10, 2026, 01:47:34 PM
And extremely high fiber- which negates the sugar content.

Big if true, sounds like a lie though. Too good to be true. Bananas and all other sweet fruits like strawberries are like crack cocaine
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 10, 2026, 01:49:53 PM
To live off prime cuts of beef, wild salmon etc without any pasta, rice, potatoes to fill you up, would cost an arm and a leg. But sure, I believe that would get you ripped and healthy. If you overdo the protein you will nuke your kidneys though
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 10, 2026, 02:10:39 PM
To live off prime cuts of beef, wild salmon etc without any pasta, rice, potatoes to fill you up, would cost an arm and a leg. But sure, I believe that would get you ripped and healthy. If you overdo the protein you will nuke your kidneys though

 No, the high fat content of the meat, eggs, etc. is very satiating.

The high carb foods cause the opposite effect.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 10, 2026, 02:15:00 PM
No, the high fat content is very satiating.

The high carb foods cause the opposite effect.

I have not the same experience. I eat a lot of meat, eggs, cheese and occasionally shrimp, cook it always with grass-fed natural butter and shit like that. But I also eat a lot of spaghetti and rice along with those. Also I get constipate from meat/eggs/cheese only without rice and pasta. I make a lot of home made oven baked vegetable sauce as I hate eating raw vegetables
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: MajorDomo on January 10, 2026, 02:26:25 PM
Uhm...no.

A medium banana contains about 27 grams of total carbohydrates, but when you subtract the 3 grams of fiber, the net carbs are approximately 24 grams. The net carb content can vary slightly depending on the banana's size and ripeness.

Uh yes:

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/the-glycemic-index-of-bananas/ (https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/the-glycemic-index-of-bananas/)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464621001493 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464621001493)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9736284/ (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9736284/)

These are just a few of the gazillion studies showing how fiber dimishes glycemic response.


Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 10, 2026, 03:33:21 PM
Uh yes:

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/the-glycemic-index-of-bananas/ (https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/the-glycemic-index-of-bananas/)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464621001493 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464621001493)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9736284/ (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9736284/)

These are just a few of the gazillion studies showing how fiber dimishes glycemic response.


24 net carbs in one banana is a lot of carbs

>

Bananas are generally not suitable for a ketogenic diet due to their high carbohydrate content, with a medium banana containing about 24 grams of net carbs, which can exceed the daily carb limit for most keto plans. It's better to opt for lower-carb fruits like avocados, strawberries, or raspberries instead.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 10, 2026, 03:39:34 PM
The new food recommendations are better but still too lenient.
Most likely the need to pacify the corporate food lobbies entered into the result.

You are of course free to continue eating processed food garbage and lots of carbs and get fat and have Type 2 diabetes.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 10, 2026, 04:16:36 PM
Grams of net carbs per 100 grams of fruit:

(https://i.dietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Low-Carb-Fruits.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat)

(https://i.dietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Low-Carb-Fruits-Berries.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat)

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fruits
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 10, 2026, 04:26:18 PM
The new food recommendations are better but still too lenient.
Most likely the need to pacify the corporate food lobbies entered into the result.

You are of course free to continue eating processed food garbage and lots of carbs and get fat and have Type 2 diabetes.

I don't think the Gary Taubes insulin model of obesity is scientific. Eating carbs obviously doesn't necessarily mean you get fat nor insulin resistant, not saying you claim this either, but you still might be slightly carb-phobic :D From what I can tell Type II diabetes has a bit more complex etiology than carb or sugar consumption per se. Protein causes insulin resistance too if you look at cellular mechanisms in studies, particularly the branched chain amino acids, which does not mean you in particular will get resistant if you eat plenty of protein. Context dependent obviously. I'm using some Toujeo basal low dose insulin at the moment for very theoretical reasons; paradoxically it's been shown in certain situations that it can even lower insulin resistance.

Retatrutide seems to be amazing for increasing insulin sensitivity. It's a weight loss drug but bodybuilders are experimenting with it now even in the off-season to get more out of their insulin use or to gain less fat when bulking. Here's one Type I diabetic pro bb:

BcDMA&index=4

Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Mayday on January 10, 2026, 04:49:14 PM

So he has gone the eat loads of meat while at the same time meat prices are rocketing, farms are being sold off and increased restrictions on cattle farming globally.

WTF???

Are we going to continue to ignore thousands of years of skinny Asian rice eaters? 
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 10, 2026, 05:19:38 PM
So he has gone the eat loads of meat while at the same time meat prices are rocketing, farms are being sold off and increased restrictions on cattle farming globally.

WTF???

Are we going to continue to ignore thousands of years of skinny Asian rice eaters? 

Asian rice eaters were skinny because they were starving.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Mayday on January 10, 2026, 07:22:11 PM
Asian rice eaters were skinny because they were starving.

Are they starving today?

Western obesity skyrocketed when we started adding fat into everything.

It's 2026 and the western public are still told confusing messages around our diet.

Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2026, 10:55:19 PM
Uh yes:

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/the-glycemic-index-of-bananas/ (https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/the-glycemic-index-of-bananas/)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464621001493 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464621001493)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9736284/ (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9736284/)

These are just a few of the gazillion studies showing how fiber dimishes glycemic response.
Steve Reeves on set eating a banana & drinking milk  ;D

Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2026, 11:04:37 PM
Are they starving today?

Western obesity skyrocketed when we started adding fat into everything.

It's 2026 and the western public are still told confusing messages around our diet.
Doesn't know what he's talking about, look at this guys diet. He eats well later too hardly a bowl of rice.

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Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 11, 2026, 01:24:43 AM
Are they starving today?

Western obesity skyrocketed when we started adding fat into everything.

It's 2026 and the western public are still told confusing messages around our diet.

Isn't it simply calories in VS calories out while avoiding artificial additives, dodgy ingredients etc? I eat a lot of carbs and a lot of fat (mostly eggs, roasted chickens with the skin, meat, rice, pasta, butter, and occasionally olive oil) but I never became overweight
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 11, 2026, 01:44:33 AM
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Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on January 11, 2026, 04:23:16 AM
Dr. Eric Berg seems to like the new food pyramid:




Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 11, 2026, 08:47:16 AM
A calorie is a calorie. Eat whatever you like as long as it's low cal.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2026, 08:56:23 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpBPw72F/treh5jwrtjrs.png)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 10:28:51 AM
Are they starving today?

Western obesity skyrocketed when we started adding fat sugar, carbs, and highly processed foods into everything.

It's 2026 and the western public are still told confusing messages around our diet.


Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 11, 2026, 12:15:03 PM
A calorie is a calorie.

Not necessarily.  It's just as much, if not more, about hormones too.

Insulin hormone:
If type 1 diabetics don't inject their insulin, they could eat 10,000 calories of whatever they want, even refined sugar, in a day and not gain one ounce of body fat and actually burn fat instead.  Not that this is healthy or recommended, but it's what happens.

Why?  Because the Insulin hormone isn't there to tell the body how to deal with all that blood glucose, how to burn it, how to store it, etc.  So the body is deprived of energy and switches to making and burning ketones by breaking down fat stores instead.  This of course can lead to diabetic ketoacidosis which is life-threatening.  But you get the point.

Cortisol hormone:
You can eat zero carbs and still have very high blood glucose levels if your cortisol levels are high.  Cortisol promotes gluconeogenesis.  This can lead to insulin resistance and excess body fat storage, even on a zero carb diet.  Your cortisol levels can be naturally higher in the morning.  Skipping breakfast and drinking coffee on an empty stomach will send cortisol levels even higher.  Eating only one large meal a day in the late afternoon or evening can raise your cortisol levels too, but not so much if eating your one meal in the morning.

FGF21 Hormone
This hormone promotes body fat burning and it's primarily released by low-protein feeding.  Levels of this hormone seem to go up the most after low-protein meals and not so much during fasting.  It doesn't matter if you eat only carbs or only fat, although it seems to go up more if you eat only sweet, refined carbs, probably as a way to signal that you're eating too many of these carbs.

Some in the medical/scientific community are saying that this is how/why The Sugar Diet fad works in helping some healthy, relatively lean males get leaner.  It doesn't seem to work that well for females or obese individuals.

FGF21 doesn't go up as much while water fasting even though you're eating zero protein.  It's the low protein feedings that elevate levels of this hormone the most.

High circulating levels of this hormone makes you crave protein while reducing sweets and alcohol cravings.  The increase in body fat burning is probably to spare muscle mass and other tissues when eating only low-protein meals.

In this study, participants switching from their normal diet to a low-protein diet saw their FGF21 hormone levels increase and had to consume 800 more calories to avoid losing body weight, from fat.  After going back to their normal protein intake, they had to eat 800 less calories to avoid gaining weight, from fat.

They didn't lose lean body mass while eating low protein for 5 weeks in this study, although going longer with this low protein intake might have eventually caught up to them.

Dietary protein restriction elevates FGF21 levels and energy requirements to maintain body weight in lean men

Published: 06 March 2025

0.83 g protein (9% protein) per kg body weight per day for 5 weeks

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-025-01236-7
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 01:24:21 PM
Interesting stuff, loco.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 11, 2026, 02:04:16 PM
Interesting stuff, loco.

Glad you found it interesting!
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Mayday on January 11, 2026, 02:21:47 PM


That is not correct.  The sugar/carbs were always there.  Protein. Was very low. Fat extremely low.

We specifically added in high fat on top of high carbs. Then everyone got fat and they blamed high carbs.

As a kid our food was always high carbs because meat was crazy expensive and fatty food wasn't something anyone ate. We were all skinny as.

Perhaps America or your country was very different where you all were on keto in the 1600s? I have no idea but typically we all came from high carb skinny people to adding fat and getting fat, not the other way around.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2026, 02:34:50 PM
That is not correct.  The sugar/carbs were always there.  Protein. Was very low. Fat extremely low.

We specifically added in high fat on top of high carbs. Then everyone got fat and they blamed high carbs.

As a kid our food was always high carbs because meat was crazy expensive and fatty food wasn't something anyone ate. We were all skinny as.

Perhaps America or your country was very different where you all were on keto in the 1600s? I have no idea but typically we all came from high carb skinny people to adding fat and getting fat, not the other way around.

Trans fats... they removed animal fats and replaced with seed oils because they said it was healthier
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In the 1980s the concept that saturated fats specifically were a major driver for heart disease grew in popularity and became fashionable. Consumer groups campaigned against saturated fats for frying in fast-food restaurants and the food industry exploited this marketing angle. The replacement of Saturated Fats by unsaturated fat Margarine was also supported by international medical society guidelines and charities based on the available evidence of the time. In response fast-food companies switched to partially hydrogenated oils containing Trans Fats instead of animal fats (such as lard) and other saturated fat oils. An additional appeal for the fast food industry was that Trans Fat oils do not need to be changed as often as other oils and can be used many time over in the commercial fryers (oils which are reheated repeatedly to high temperatures also develop other adverse toxic elements).

10 years later in the early 1990s new medical research starts to reveal that Trans Fats are seriously bad for health. Although small amounts of Trans fats can be found naturally it is industrially produced Trans fats which are linked to an increased risk of multiple diseases including cardiovascular disease and Cancers. There is nothing nutritionally positive about Trans fat —a pure evil ‘food’ (if you can even call it a food). Eating Trans fats increases LDL (bad cholesterol) and Triglycerides but also amazingly lowers HDL (good cholesterol) and promotes inflammation creating a perfect athrogenic [causing artery furring] environment. Trans fats increase your risk of developing heart disease, stroke, type 2 Diabetes and have been linked with several types of Cancer. Consumption of only 5 g per day is associated with a 23% increase in the risk of coronary heart disease!

Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: MAXX on January 11, 2026, 02:38:16 PM
okay so they fell for the myth that grains are bad?
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Rambone on January 11, 2026, 02:50:21 PM
I’ve been eating the new food pyramid for my entire adult life. Is that why I’m not a fat slob or dead yet? I also didn’t take the jab because i am not a submissive faggot which I believe also helps in staying undeaded
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 02:56:30 PM
That is not correct.  The sugar/carbs were always there.  Protein. Was very low. Fat extremely low.

We specifically added in high fat on top of high carbs. Then everyone got fat and they blamed high carbs.

As a kid our food was always high carbs because meat was crazy expensive and fatty food wasn't something anyone ate. We were all skinny as.

Perhaps America or your country was very different where you all were on keto in the 1600s? I have no idea but typically we all came from high carb skinny people to adding fat and getting fat, not the other way around.

You can get fat eating any kind of food if the calories you eat exceed what you burn.

However, a high carb diet triggers excessive  insulin secretion which makes the body store excess glucose as fat,  a survival mechanism for future times of insufficient food.  This also strains the pancreas.
Over decades the pancreas can wear out resulting in Type 2 diabetes.

You can be thin and be a Type 2 diabetic.

When you are already getting sufficient calories, adding excess calories from fat just gets stored.

The Western Diet is approximately 300-400 grams of carbs per day.  Add to this the excess calories from fast food, sugary drinks, etc. and you get fat people.

Foods such as seed oils, trans fats, sugars cause inflammation which is now considered the actual cause of heart disease.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 03:00:05 PM
I’ve been eating the new food pyramid for my entire adult life. Is that why I’m not a fat slob or dead yet? I also didn’t take the jab because i am not a submissive faggot which I believe also helps in staying undeaded

You got it, Bone.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 03:01:05 PM
okay so they fell for the myth that grains are bad?

Grains are like eating sugar basically.
Cheap way to feed your people though.

1 slice white bread = 13 gm carbs

1 tbls white sugar = 13 gm carbs
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Rambone on January 11, 2026, 03:11:14 PM
You got it, Bone.

Your approval puts my mind at ease, natty!
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 03:12:26 PM
Everyone is entitled to eat whatever they want.

No homo.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 11, 2026, 03:13:43 PM
Everyone is entitled to eat whatever they want.

No homo.

Except if you like to eat horse meat, then people get to act like you are scum while they pound down beef
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 03:16:41 PM
Except if you like to eat horse meat, then people get to act like you are scum while they pound down beef

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Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Rambone on January 11, 2026, 03:21:57 PM
Everyone is entitled to eat whatever they want.

No homo.

Even a kielbasa?
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 03:25:44 PM
Even a kielbasa?

Bhanky can eat all the kielbasa he wants.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: SF1900 on January 11, 2026, 05:07:37 PM
It’s all about carbs. When I cut down on carbs, the weight drops.

Does not matter if I rear red meat, butter, olive oil or peanut butter. It’s all about carbs.

Children of the 90s and prior got away from eating a ton of carbs because we were outside all day. As an adult, the best way to reduce weight is cut down on carbs.

I just eat lean meats, vegetables, fruits, nuts/seeds, legumes, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese, olive oil.

One day a week I usually have pasta.

And remember, I’m one of the bigger guys here.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2026, 05:11:16 PM
It’s all about carbs. When I cut down on carbs, the weight drops.

Does not matter if I rear red meat, butter, olive oil or peanut butter. It’s all about carbs.

Children of the 90s and prior got away from eating a ton of carbs because we were outside all day. As an adult, the best way to reduce weight is cut down on carbs.

I just eat lean meats, vegetables, fruits, nuts/seeds, legumes, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese, olive oil.

One day a week I usually have pasta.

And remember, I’m one of the bigger guys here.

That's good, SF.

I have a day or two of cheat meals each week too.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 20, 2026, 06:50:08 AM
Much better than what we were taught but also expensive.

Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 20, 2026, 07:02:29 AM

Eggs, cheese and dairy are pretty cheap but beef is kinda pricey right now. The cheapest diet is probably junk food.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 20, 2026, 07:14:32 AM
The cheapest diet is probably junk food food-like substances.

Fixed.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: unwieldy on January 20, 2026, 09:43:32 AM
It’s all about carbs. When I cut down on carbs, the weight drops.

Does not matter if I rear red meat, butter, olive oil or peanut butter. It’s all about carbs.

Children of the 90s and prior got away from eating a ton of carbs because we were outside all day. As an adult, the best way to reduce weight is cut down on carbs.

I just eat lean meats, vegetables, fruits, nuts/seeds, legumes, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese, olive oil.

One day a week I usually have pasta.

And remember, I’m one of the bigger guys here.

Carbs hold more water so
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 21, 2026, 09:02:47 AM

Insulin hormone:
If type 1 diabetics don't inject their insulin, they could eat 10,000 calories of whatever they want, even refined sugar, in a day and not gain one ounce of body fat and actually burn fat instead.  Not that this is healthy or recommended, but it's what happens.


I wonder what the fuck was going on when I lost an alarming amount of bodyfat very quickly when I had pancreatitis. At hospital my glucose was normal though so I wasn't diabetic. I was eating and drinking a ton of sugar too. I maintained strength and muscle as well and I wasn't pissing a lot or had other diabetic signs. I've gained back most of the bodyfat now though. My belly fat was so low they couldn't give me sub-q shots there which was insane. Nurses loved my veins though they tended to roll out of the way when hitting them with needles LOL. Docs said I must have changed my diet but that wasn't it. During part of this I was using cardarine but it can't be that effective.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 21, 2026, 11:41:23 AM
I wonder what the fuck was going on when I lost an alarming amount of bodyfat very quickly when I had pancreatitis. At hospital my glucose was normal though so I wasn't diabetic. I was eating and drinking a ton of sugar too. I maintained strength and muscle as well and I wasn't pissing a lot or had other diabetic signs. I've gained back most of the bodyfat now though. My belly fat was so low they couldn't give me sub-q shots there which was insane. Nurses loved my veins though they tended to roll out of the way when hitting them with needles LOL. Docs said I must have changed my diet but that wasn't it. During part of this I was using cardarine but it can't be that effective.

"People with chronic pancreatitis often lose weight, even when their appetite and eating habits are normal. The weight loss occurs because the body does not secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to digest food, so nutrients are not absorbed normally. Poor digestion leads to malnutrition due to excretion of fat in the stool."

https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/digestion-and-metabolic-health/chronic-pancreatitis/symptoms.html


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Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: IroNat on January 21, 2026, 12:19:23 PM
"People with chronic pancreatitis often lose weight, even when their appetite and eating habits are normal. The weight loss occurs because the body does not secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to digest food, so nutrients are not absorbed normally. Poor digestion leads to malnutrition due to excretion of fat in the stool."

https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/digestion-and-metabolic-health/chronic-pancreatitis/symptoms.html


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This must be what Bhanky has.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 21, 2026, 03:26:35 PM
"People with chronic pancreatitis often lose weight, even when their appetite and eating habits are normal. The weight loss occurs because the body does not secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to digest food, so nutrients are not absorbed normally. Poor digestion leads to malnutrition due to excretion of fat in the stool."

https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/digestion-and-metabolic-health/chronic-pancreatitis/symptoms.html

Thanks bro. However, they tested if I lacked that enzyme and I didn't. Even before testing I tried pancreatic enzymes to see if they helped in any way, which is what they prescribe if you lack the enzymes. I didn't notice any effects from it, though my bowels have have worked normally the whole time with no apparent problems with digestion. Some bodybuilders use these enzymes feeling they help digestion when eating a ton. Cost a lot out of pocket if pharma grade, would have gotten them for free if I'd lacked the enzyme.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 21, 2026, 03:46:00 PM
"People with chronic pancreatitis often lose weight, even when their appetite and eating habits are normal. The weight loss occurs because the body does not secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to digest food, so nutrients are not absorbed normally. Poor digestion leads to malnutrition due to excretion of fat in the stool."

https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/digestion-and-metabolic-health/chronic-pancreatitis/symptoms.html


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Spot on loco.....exactly what I`m going through after my Pancreatic Cancer surgery..........ufortun ately.   :(

I have to take an expensive Pancreatic Enzyme called Creon after each meal or snack, as I no longer digest fats well due to no longer having a Gall Bladder or Bile Duct and a small portion of my Pancreas left.

I`m devestated by this of course,but I will return to working out soon......I don`t quit  easily !!
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 21, 2026, 03:54:07 PM
Thanks bro. However, they tested if I lacked that enzyme and I didn't. Even before testing I tried pancreatic enzymes to see if they helped in any way, which is what they prescribe if you lack the enzymes. I didn't notice any effects from it, though my bowels have have worked normally the whole time with no apparent problems with digestion. Some bodybuilders use these enzymes feeling they help digestion when eating a ton. Cost a lot out of pocket if pharma grade, would have gotten them for free if I'd lacked the enzyme.
You got lucky Van....thank God......I would only wish the Hell I`ve been through on a guy named Hanky.   ;)
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 21, 2026, 04:00:58 PM

I have to take an expensive Pancreatic hormone called Creon after each meal or snack, as I no longer digest fats well due to no longer having a Gall Bladder or Bile Duct and a small portion of my Pancreas left.

That's the product I tried, too expensive if there's no big benefit to me. Supp companies have these enzymes for sale too and some bodybuilders are big into different digestive enzymes. I got my gallbladder removed too but I haven't had any digestion issues from it so far.
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 21, 2026, 04:06:21 PM
Medicare and Medicade covers mine or I`d be fucked...real expensive stuff !!
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 21, 2026, 04:49:48 PM
Spot on loco.....exactly what I`m going through after my Pancreatic Cancer surgery..........ufortun ately.   :(

I have to take an expensive Pancreatic Enzyme called Creon after each meal or snack, as I no longer digest fats well due to no longer having a Gall Bladder or Bile Duct and a small portion of my Pancreas left.

I`m devestated by this of course,but I will return to working out soon......I don`t quit  easily !!

Sorry you've had to endure this, but glad you're still kicking!
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: wes on January 21, 2026, 05:06:41 PM
Sorry you've had to endure this, but glad you're still kicking!
Thanks brother,but I bet I`m happier than you are to still be kicking.   LOL  ;D
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: loco on January 21, 2026, 05:15:04 PM
Thanks brother,but I bet I`m happier than you are to still be kicking.   LOL  ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: Lartinos on February 27, 2026, 04:58:49 PM
RFK will be posting letter grades and ingredients on front of packaging for food.

https://x.com/maha_action/status/2027469839728546026?s=61
Title: Re: RFK Jr.’s New Food Pyramid
Post by: AbrahamG on February 27, 2026, 09:52:02 PM
Where is "nice french toast" on the pyramid?