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I've been analyzing this for a long time and still can't reach a clear conclusion. On the one hand, we have lifters with perfect, slow lowering technique, like Scot Medelson, who tore his pecs while attempting 650 lbs RAW, and on the other, we have bench pressers like Joseph Tumbarello (check out his new Instagram video 600 X 7 RAW), who has had terrible technique for years, throwing and bouncing over 700 lbs from his chest without injury. Julius Maddox has benched over 700 lbs raw more times than any other person and has also never torn his pecs. I used to think that a close grip was a guarantee against pec tears, until about two years ago, a powerlifting friend of mine tore his pecs while attempting a 550 lbs RAW close grip bench press! Interestingly, he had previously only benched with a wide grip and hadn't injured his pecs at the time, but he decided to switch to a close grip due to shoulder pain. Of course, the shoulder pain subsided, and he slowly built up his close grip strength until something he never expected happened during a competition! There are also excellent Japanese bench pressers, such as Daiki Kodama, who only bench press with their elbows out as wide as possible and never suffer shoulder injuries, let alone pec tears, and their careers last for years. What are your thoughts on this?
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I've been analyzing this for a long time and still can't reach a clear conclusion. On the one hand, we have lifters with perfect, slow lowering technique, like Scot Medelson, who tore his pecs while attempting 650 lbs RAW, and on the other, we have bench pressers like Joseph Tumbarello (check out his new Instagram video 600 X 7 RAW), who has had terrible technique for years, throwing and bouncing over 700 lbs from his chest without injury. Julius Maddox has benched over 700 lbs raw more times than any other person and has also never torn his pecs. I used to think that a close grip was a guarantee against pec tears, until about two years ago, a powerlifting friend of mine tore his pecs while attempting a 550 lbs RAW close grip bench press! Interestingly, he had previously only benched with a wide grip and hadn't injured his pecs at the time, but he decided to switch to a close grip due to shoulder pain. Of course, the shoulder pain subsided, and he slowly built up his close grip strength until something he never expected happened during a competition! There are also excellent Japanese bench pressers, such as Daiki Kodama, who only bench press with their elbows out as wide as possible and never suffer shoulder injuries, let alone pec tears, and their careers last for years. What are your thoughts on this?
I feel it's consistent wear and tear from compensation patterns that accumulates over a long period of time and eventually becomes too much for the body to handle. Or just wear and tear with good mechanics, but the body just can't handle it anymore. This may cause the injury. At the same time, you could have someone who also compensates with a faulty movement pattern their whole career and never gets injured due to their elite genetics.
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Parallel Bar Dips .. Incline Bench press (medium grip elbows tucked)
no need for wide grip flat presses
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Parallel Bar Dips .. Incline Bench press (medium grip elbows tucked)
no need for wide grip flat presses
True! Back in the 90's this guy beside me was doing wide flat presses and tore his pec. What I remember most was how it bruised so quickly. Sounded like a wet rag being torn.
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The longer the forearm, the further your humerus needs to drop - pec will get stretched more
Same idea with chest thickness; a thicker ribcage limits your range of motion, so the pec doesn’t stretch as much.
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The longer the forearm, the further your humerus needs to drop - pec will get stretched more
Same idea with chest thickness; a thicker ribcage limits your range of motion, so the pec doesn’t stretch as much.
So it would follow that a wide grip is safer than a narrow one because the humerus will be less stretched?
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So it would follow that a wide grip is safer than a narrow one because the humerus will be less stretched?
Solely depends on your structure. Large shoulders with long arms and a flat ribcage: not a good plan.
There are many factors (as you would expect)
- Arm angle in the bench press
- The degree of scapular retraction
- Shoulder width (and a flat ribcage): The wider the clavicles, the harder it is to keep the chest expanded. As the weight gets heavier, the chest tends to flatten out more, which increases the bar path. Ribcage and shoulder stability is also compromised because it’s harder to keep the shoulder blades properly retracted. This also leads to reduced pec activation.
- Narrow bench pads AND clavicle length: the wider your shoulders, the more they extend beyond the sides of the bench = bigger stretch at the bottom of the press.
- Anecdotal but interesting point : sudden joint instability (less joint congruence) due to hormonal shifts affecting relaxin. Relaxin is a peptide hormone that’s part of the IGF family. For a long time, doctors mostly studied it in women because it was thought to be a “female hormone."
But newer research shows that male athletes produce about the same amount of relaxin as female athletes do.
Relaxin receptors are found in ligaments in both men and women. How responsive these ligaments are to relaxin depends on estrogen. (btw, a sudden spike in estrogen could explain why some athletes temporarily experience a unexplained drop in strength due looser joints).
Imo, a good quick test to figure out which form is best suited for you is the floor press
Simple example: Here's Centopani doing floor presses with Poundstone. Notice the anatomical differences between them.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydzd4BDW/Screenshot-20260120-175956.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d35tyy42/Screenshot-20260120-180030.jpg)
start at 6:00
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I never tore any muscles luckily. I think exercise selection and being generally careful goes a long way, but ultimately I think one day every muscle is destined to tear. Quitting while you are ahead is key
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Genetics/luck of the draw.
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I've been analyzing this for a long time and still can't reach a clear conclusion. On the one hand, we have lifters with perfect, slow lowering technique, like Scot Medelson, who tore his pecs while attempting 650 lbs RAW, and on the other, we have bench pressers like Joseph Tumbarello (check out his new Instagram video 600 X 7 RAW), who has had terrible technique for years, throwing and bouncing over 700 lbs from his chest without injury. Julius Maddox has benched over 700 lbs raw more times than any other person and has also never torn his pecs. I used to think that a close grip was a guarantee against pec tears, until about two years ago, a powerlifting friend of mine tore his pecs while attempting a 550 lbs RAW close grip bench press! Interestingly, he had previously only benched with a wide grip and hadn't injured his pecs at the time, but he decided to switch to a close grip due to shoulder pain. Of course, the shoulder pain subsided, and he slowly built up his close grip strength until something he never expected happened during a competition! There are also excellent Japanese bench pressers, such as Daiki Kodama, who only bench press with their elbows out as wide as possible and never suffer shoulder injuries, let alone pec tears, and their careers last for years. What are your thoughts on this?
Just a wild guess but perhaps benching 550 lbs (249 kg) or even more might have something to do with muscles tearing off ;D
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my pecs dont even engage for 90% of a bench press, the tension drops off about 3 inches off my chest
Waste of time for me.. its all front delts and triceps
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my pecs dont even engage for 90% of a bench press, the tension drops off about 3 inches off my chest
Waste of time for me.. its all front delts and triceps
You use dumbbell presses instead?
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You use dumbbell presses instead?
no, dips and the odd standing cables
I havent picked a dumbell up in a gym for around 4 years maybe longer
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no, dips and the odd standing cables
I havent picked a dumbell up in a gym for around 4 years maybe longer
Do you find dip bars can give relatively complete development?
I do have dip bars, would be interesting to see the results if I stopped bench pressing and focused on them for a while, but always thought the upper pec area might get worked less.
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my pecs dont even engage for 90% of a bench press, the tension drops off about 3 inches off my chest
Waste of time for me.. its all front delts and triceps
I'm only talking about the bench press from a powerlifting perspective, so I gave examples of different bench pressers with different pressing techniques. It's true what you say, that the front deltoids and triceps do most of the work, but for some reason, it's the pectorals that tear in this exercise.
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I'm only talking about the bench press from a powerlifting perspective, so I gave examples of different bench pressers with different pressing techniques. It's true what you say, that the front deltoids and triceps do most of the work, but for some reason, it's the pectorals that tear in this exercise.
My interpretation is that in a powerlifting bench setup, the scapulas are retracted, depressed and actively pinned to the bench via thoracic extension (and lat tension obviously), so with the same bar path, the strain is shifted almost entirely onto the pecs compared to a traditional barbell bench, where the shoulder blades slide along the ribcage as the weight moves.
This setup also places the pec origin lower and more posterior (more stretch)
Another crucial detail: during a bench, powerlifters externally rotate their humeruses, which rolls the pecs outward (retarded term, I know) and increases stretch.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVMG4GGW/Screenshot-20260121-013621.jpg)
Look at the elbows
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNctVJRc/TUj-APu.gif)
With all of this in mind, it’s not surprising that pec tears can occur during a powerlifting style bench press.
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I'm only talking about the bench press from a powerlifting perspective, so I gave examples of different bench pressers with different pressing techniques. It's true what you say, that the front deltoids and triceps do most of the work, but for some reason, it's the pectorals that tear in this exercise.
Its because the pectorals are not designed to push away from the body, they are a downward pushing muscle, think climbing over an obstacle.
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Don't do heavy benches with the elbows flared while on steroids which dramatically increase the risk of tears. I tore both pecs in my early 20s pushing very heavy loads, increasing poundage by 100lbs in a few months and stupid things like that. My most serious tear occurred doing wide grip incline benches to the neck in the smith machine which I'd seen Ed Coan recommend somewhere IIRC. Very vulnerable position. As I recall I had about 280lbs on and was planning on 10-12 and on the 3rd it happened. Benching was crazy fun though and I didnt think it would happen so early in my lifting career. The real tragedy for me was that my surgery was delayed and the result was awful.
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Every guy I've seen tear a pec was on gear. Do natties get muscle tears?
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Its because the pectorals are not designed to push away from the body, they are a downward pushing muscle, think climbing over an obstacle.
they are also used in a hugging type motion.......such as in db flyes.....the analogy "like hugging a tree" has often been used to describe the function of the pecs....hence I always included flyes when doing chest work.
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Too much weight, too much volume, not enough rest between workouts.
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Too much weight, too much volume, not enough rest between workouts.
I agree.....going heavy too often,or attempting a max too often......in powerlifting you have to learn about cycling poundages.
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My interpretation is that in a powerlifting bench setup, the scapulas are retracted, depressed and actively pinned to the bench via thoracic extension (and lat tension obviously), so with the same bar path, the strain is shifted almost entirely onto the pecs compared to a traditional barbell bench, where the shoulder blades slide along the ribcage as the weight moves.
This setup also places the pec origin lower and more posterior (more stretch)
Another crucial detail: during a bench, powerlifters externally rotate their humeruses, which rolls the pecs outward (retarded term, I know) and increases stretch.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVMG4GGW/Screenshot-20260121-013621.jpg)
Look at the elbows
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNctVJRc/TUj-APu.gif)
With all of this in mind, it’s not surprising that pec tears can occur during a powerlifting style bench press.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvhgkPKy/undefined-Imgur.gif)
Thanks for the explanation. Now that I think about it, I can't think of a single bench presser in the sub-200 lbs category who has torn a pectoral muscle, and it's not uncommon for them to bench press 500 lbs raw.
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Don't do heavy benches with the elbows flared while on steroids which dramatically increase the risk of tears. I tore both pecs in my early 20s pushing very heavy loads, increasing poundage by 100lbs in a few months and stupid things like that. My most serious tear occurred doing wide grip incline benches to the neck in the smith machine which I'd seen Ed Coan recommend somewhere IIRC. Very vulnerable position. As I recall I had about 280lbs on and was planning on 10-12 and on the 3rd it happened. Benching was crazy fun though and I didnt think it would happen so early in my lifting career. The real tragedy for me was that my surgery was delayed and the result was awful.
I'm surprised Ed Coan recommended such a dangerous exercise. From your description, it looks exactly like how Markus Ruhl performed this exercise.
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Every guy I've seen tear a pec was on gear. Do natties get muscle tears?
My friend's training partner tore his pectoral muscle while natty, but because of his stupidity - he tried to break his personal best 1RM during every chest workout.
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Too much weight, too much volume, not enough rest between workouts.
It's true. People often say that muscle recovery only takes 48-72 hours, so you can confidently train every body part intensely two or three times a week, but tendons need much longer to recover than muscles.
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It's true. People often say that muscle recovery only takes 48-72 hours, so you can confidently train every body part intensely two or three times a week, but tendons need much longer to recover than muscles.
Once a week works best for me if training heavier.
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Once a week works best for me if training heavier.
Same thing with me.
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Once a week works best for me if training heavier.
Same thing with me.
Experiences may vary but I doubt most make faster progress by training much more frequently anyway. One strange thing with steroids is that they dont seem to make you be able to lift more frequently, in every instance Ive seen when guys start steroids they instinctively cut their volume plus frequency. Naturals seem to tolerate more lifting. I dont know if its neural or what. Just what Ive seen, if someone sees guys start training more when hopping on gear let me know 8) When I was at my biggest and strongest I lifted once a week doing about 5 working sets total for the whole body. I almost couldnt say lifted at all LOL.
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My friend's training partner tore his pectoral muscle while natty, but because of his stupidity - he tried to break his personal best 1RM during every chest workout.
I used to train like that back in my 20's. :-[
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My friend's training partner tore his pectoral muscle while natty, but because of his stupidity - he tried to break his personal best 1RM during every chest workout.
Like I said....too heavy,too often, and maxing out way too often.
Hatfield cycled his poundages in percentages.
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Crying pectoral tears?
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Experiences may vary but I doubt most make faster progress by training much more frequently anyway. One strange thing with steroids is that they dont seem to make you be able to lift more frequently, in every instance Ive seen when guys start steroids they instinctively cut their volume plus frequency. Naturals seem to tolerate more lifting. I dont know if its neural or what. Just what Ive seen, if someone sees guys start training more when hopping on gear let me know 8) When I was at my biggest and strongest I lifted once a week doing about 5 working sets total for the whole body. I almost couldnt say lifted at all LOL.
I have the exact same experience as you. Since taking steroids, I've found that low volume and high intensity work best for me.
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Like I said....too heavy,too often, and maxing out way too often.
Hatfield cycled his poundages in percentages.
That's right. Some people never accept this and think they have to break records at every training session or they won't give their all.
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That's right. Some people never accept this and think they have to break records at every training session or they won't give their all.
Yup...patience is a virtue....."the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step".
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Supposedly, steroids keep you in a continuous anabolic state so there is no need to train too frequently.
Natties however need to train more often to renew anabolism.
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Supposedly, steroids keep you in a continuous anabolic state so there is no need to train too frequently.
Natties however need to train more often to renew anabolism.
Yes plus anti-catabolism. From personal experience you can stop lifting for months but if you keep a little testosterone going you can almost pick up where you left off when you go back to it. You lose a tiny bit of the "pump" or inflammation but it's back after one or two workouts. It used to be that old timer juicers said steroids do nothing but help speed recovery so you can train more and grow more :D Not in my experience, can't tolerate a ton of lifting when on lots of roids. Not that they impede recovery I don't think but there's something about it where you just don't find yourself in the gym as much (that's if you were a natural doing a ton of volume previously).
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Ex wives and car doors
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Every guy I've seen tear a pec was on gear. Do natties get muscle tears?
yes they do many do
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Pec tears happen when going too heavy, maxing out on the bench or incline bench, anyone going for higher reps like 10+ should be ok!
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In my opinion... several contributing factors
these could be imo main factors::
*being cold while lifting (alot of people tearing stuff complain about how they did it cold). When cold blood leaves you extremities and muscle to heat up your core and vital organs= less fluid/blood in the muscle
*rapid strength gain. when training is going good and progress is fast. tendons are not as quick to adapt to the muscle increase.
*tendonitis(this is dubious because it creeps up slowly)- part reason why I tore my patellar tendon.
*dehydration/mineral inbalance- obviously makes one more prone to injury
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Being mostly unemployed since 2010.
Previous race driving crashes
Domestic issues involving car doors.
Kiteboarding wear and tear
History of Chrohn’s
Overconsumption of French Toast
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That's right. Some people never accept this and think they have to break records at every training session or they won't give their all.
Essentially this is what it takes. If something is within your capacity it will not change you.
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just read this book
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Ex wives and car doors
:D
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Better :D
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Supposedly, steroids keep you in a continuous anabolic state so there is no need to train too frequently.
Natties however need to train more often to renew anabolism.
How often?
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Don't do heavy benches with the elbows flared while on steroids which dramatically increase the risk of tears. I tore both pecs in my early 20s pushing very heavy loads, increasing poundage by 100lbs in a few months and stupid things like that. My most serious tear occurred doing wide grip incline benches to the neck in the smith machine which I'd seen Ed Coan recommend somewhere IIRC. Very vulnerable position. As I recall I had about 280lbs on and was planning on 10-12 and on the 3rd it happened. Benching was crazy fun though and I didnt think it would happen so early in my lifting career. The real tragedy for me was that my surgery was delayed and the result was awful.
funny you say that about the smith incline. I just recently nearly tore my pec on that. Or it tore a little bit probably. I could feel the velcro ripping feeling inside my pec. But I manage to drop it while transfering the load to my right side and rack it quickly. If I would continue pressing uppwards I'm pretty sure it would rip completly.. This was about month ago and I have just now just tested doing pushups and so far so good those feel fine and so it will be the rehab i do to get good bloodflow in the pec again.
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How often?
Today's gear heads hit a muscle group once a week.
Powerlifters commonly do the bench, squat and deadlift once per week each and also several assistance exercises for each lift on the day.
The pre-steroid oldtimers hit a muscle group it 2-3 times a week with 6-12 sets per workout.
So, maybe that's right for natties.
I don't recall hearing about torn pecs in the 70s and early 80s.
I do think the use of anabolics nowadays without building a solid base from time spent natural training has something to do with the current frequency of pec tears.
The connective tissues just never get the chance to toughen up before being subjected to heavy loads.
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I don't recall hearing about torn pecs in the 70s and early 80s.
I do think the use of anabolics nowadays without building a solid base from time spent natural training has something to do with the current frequency of pec tears.
The connective tissues just never get the chance to toughen up before being subjected to heavy loads.
Bill Kazmaier tore his pec in the 80s. I had never heard of anyone experiencing this before.
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Today's gear heads hit a muscle group once a week.
Powerlifters commonly do the bench, squat and deadlift once per week each and also several assistance exercises for each lift on the day.
The pre-steroid oldtimers hit a muscle group it 2-3 times a week with 6-12 sets per workout.
So, maybe that's right for natties.
I don't recall hearing about torn pecs in the 70s and early 80s.
I do think the use of anabolics nowadays without building a solid base from time spent natural training has something to do with the current frequency of pec tears.
The connective tissues just never get the chance to toughen up before being subjected to heavy loads.
I´ve never used steroids & i made good gains on a 5 day split, lots of overlap when training the muscle groups because you can´t isolate a muscle group entirely.
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Bill Kazmaier tore his pec in the 80s. I had never heard of anyone experiencing this before.
This is an interesting thing, I, too, don't recall many torn pecs pre late 70s (although I wonder if that's due to lax reporting not specify type of injury). It would be interesting to see a breakdown of pre late 70s pec injuries versus lifter weight, maximum poundage lifted, and total training time.
In my mind the older lifters were fatter, had more time under bar to reach their records, and the maximum poundage was light compared to the newer lifters.
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Today's gear heads hit a muscle group once a week.
Powerlifters commonly do the bench, squat and deadlift once per week each and also several assistance exercises for each lift on the day.
The pre-steroid oldtimers hit a muscle group it 2-3 times a week with 6-12 sets per workout.
So, maybe that's right for natties.
I don't recall hearing about torn pecs in the 70s and early 80s.
I do think the use of anabolics nowadays without building a solid base from time spent natural training has something to do with the current frequency of pec tears.
The connective tissues just never get the chance to toughen up before being subjected to heavy loads.
I only hit each muscle group directly once a week but I'm old.
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I only hit each muscle group directly once a week but I'm old.
I'm only hypothesizing.
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Hard to know without statistics lol, but I think pec tears could be much more frequent if it wasn't for lots of trainers warning bodybuilders of the flat bench injury risk. For decades there have been warnings and many pros have been in the "I don't flat bench" camp. Not only because of the injury risk but also because they have thought inclines build a better looking pec or they say that they can't feel their pecs on the flat bench. I think they are mistaken here in a few ways; for example I think flat or very low inclines hit the pecs, probably even the upper pecs, better than the average angle incline set-up. I remember noticing a few of the 'mostly incline' champions curiously having most of their pec mass in the lower pecs (a lot of which is genetic too I'm sure) :D
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Hard to know without statistics lol, but I think pec tears could be much more frequent if it wasn't for lots of trainers warning bodybuilders of the flat bench injury risk. For decades there have been warnings and many pros have been in the "I don't flat bench" camp. Not only because of the injury risk but also because they have thought inclines build a better looking pec or they say that they can't feel their pecs on the flat bench. I think they are mistaken here in a few ways; for example I think flat or very low inclines hit the pecs, probably even the upper pecs, better than the average angle incline set-up. I remember noticing a few of the 'mostly incline' champions curiously having most of their pec mass in the lower pecs (a lot of which is genetic too I'm sure) :D
Im not sure why inlcine would be less risk? what is the reasoning that flat is worst?
I'll include this incline bench for fun :'(
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Im not sure why inlcine would be less risk? what is the reasoning that flat is worst?
That's what most believe and it's probably true that it's more common on flat but that might be due to generally heavier loading and more frequent maxing and ego lifting too? Certainly the way I did it to the neck with a very wide grip really stretched the pec. The way Ruhl did it :D
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I can't see how incline would be safer except as mentioned above because people use less weight.
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I can't see how incline would be safer except as mentioned above because people use less weight.
a Good video.. Incline feels better for me but i´m not against say Decline work.
flat press I used to like with Dumbbells but nowadays i don´t bother with it.
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Not getting injured is one aspect of being gifted in something.
Now is being gifted always genetic or is it cumulation of things that was done in the past as kid and youth?
Propably both.
I bet someone said when Kaz tore his pec that human body ain’t supposed to handle such loads.
Then 300kgs/660lbs became more frequent.
Gym is usually one of the safest way to exercise since there isn’t any sudden movements.
I’ve run distance, sprints and played football. Still pulled my calf by walking the stairs.
Eh… what was the question 😃🤔
So who knows.
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Better :D
The final boss of tendonitis
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Not getting injured is one aspect of being gifted in something.
Now is being gifted always genetic or is it cumulation of things that was done in the past as kid and youth?
Propably both.
I bet someone said when Kaz tore his pec that human body ain’t supposed to handle such loads.
Then 300kgs/660lbs became more frequent.
Gym is usually one of the safest way to exercise since there isn’t any sudden movements.
I’ve run distance, sprints and played football. Still pulled my calf by walking the stairs.
Eh… what was the question 😃🤔
So who knows.
Yeah I've seen several other people who got bicep tears from water skiing.
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Yeah I've seen several other people who got bicep tears from water skiing.
Tons of guys train like freaking animals then tear something moving a lamp or carrying groceries.
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just read this book
Is it necessary? this one page seems sufficient
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Not getting injured is one aspect of being gifted in something.
Now is being gifted always genetic or is it cumulation of things that was done in the past as kid and youth?
Propably both.
I bet someone said when Kaz tore his pec that human body ain’t supposed to handle such loads.
Then 300kgs/660lbs became more frequent.
Gym is usually one of the safest way to exercise since there isn’t any sudden movements.
I’ve run distance, sprints and played football. Still pulled my calf by walking the stairs.
Eh… what was the question 😃🤔
So who knows.
Excellent point.
Emmitt Smith had a very long football career with a lot of carries but never had a career ending injury.
He had a difficult shoulder injury and minor knee injuries but never an ACL or severe knee injury.
Pretty amazing. Some guys are very prone to injuries.
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Tons of guys train like freaking animals then tear something moving a lamp or carrying groceries.
:D
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Branch_warren.png)
Quad Tear (2011): Slipped on a wet curb during a thunderstorm, tearing his quad tendon completely off the bone. Despite doubts about his career, he returned to win the 2012 Arnold Classic.
Achilles Tendon Tear (2024): Suffered a torn Achilles tendon during a deer hunting trip in December 2024, requiring surgery.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-13-2015/Wt01CW.gif)
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:D
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Branch_warren.png)
Quad Tear (2011): Slipped on a wet curb during a thunderstorm, tearing his quad tendon completely off the bone. Despite doubts about his career, he returned to win the 2012 Arnold Classic.
Achilles Tendon Tear (2024): Suffered a torn Achilles tendon during a deer hunting trip in December 2024, requiring surgery.
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...and once fell out of a monster truck !!
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...and once fell out of couldnt get into a monster truck !!
fixed
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:D
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Branch_warren.png)
Quad Tear (2011): Slipped on a wet curb during a thunderstorm, tearing his quad tendon completely off the bone. Despite doubts about his career, he returned to win the 2012 Arnold Classic.
Achilles Tendon Tear (2024): Suffered a torn Achilles tendon during a deer hunting trip in December 2024, requiring surgery.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-13-2015/Wt01CW.gif)
Evan Centopani tore his quad slipping on ice outside his house aswell.
It's always the uncontrolled sudden impact that does it. Gym lifts are controlled.
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A few months ago, a friend of mine who bench pressed 570 lbs RAW tore his biceps while leaning his hand against a car.
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Ruptured my bicep tendon removing the door pad on a truck.
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speaking of incline bench
the fu...
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speaking of incline bench
the fu...
I've been following him on Instagram for a while now. Very strong guy, I hope he doesn't tear anything.
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speaking of incline bench
the fu...
Greg Kovacs repped that much
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This is an interesting thing, I, too, don't recall many torn pecs pre late 70s (although I wonder if that's due to lax reporting not specify type of injury). It would be interesting to see a breakdown of pre late 70s pec injuries versus lifter weight, maximum poundage lifted, and total training time.
In my mind the older lifters were fatter, had more time under bar to reach their records, and the maximum poundage was light compared to the newer lifters.
Chris Dickerson 82 Mr Olympia. His left pec was already injured at the 79 Mr Olympia.
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Greg Kovacs repped that much
As far as I know, Greg only did the incline Smith machine.
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Ruptured my bicep tendon removing the door pad on a truck.
I tore my bicep lifting a welding machine into a shipping container. There was like an iron loop at the end and I pulled with one finger, using the hand I supinate on deads. I mean I've held almost 1K on a very short rack dead with a mixed grip with no tears. I must have slightly bended the arm. Docs didn't want to operate but I insisted and I'm extremely glad I did, otherwise there would be zero bicep left (already had very small and short bis).
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His reaction to his first life experience between 1-2 mins is interesting.
After that it shows the bruise on his bicep and explains from there.
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Sounds like his HMO is giving him the run-around with the referral and approvals gambits.
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His reaction to his first life experience between 1-2 mins is interesting.
After that it shows the bruise on his bicep and explains from there.
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kinda, kinda, kinda, kinda, kinda..
Fucks sake I fucking hate that shit.
There is NEVER any need to say "kinda" or "kind of" when you are talking.
Next time you hear someone say it replay what they said and omit the "kinda/kind of" and you will see its not needed.
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kinda, kinda, kinda, kinda, kinda..
Fucks sake I fucking hate that shit.
There is NEVER any need to say "kinda" or "kind of" when you are talking.
Next time you hear someone say it replay what they said and omit the "kinda/kind of" and you will see its not needed.
When you think about it,it kinda is at times !! ;D
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When you think about it,it is at times !! ;D
nope, reads exactly the same without it
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"But yeah" is definitely needed at times.......kinda ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
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nope, reads exactly the same without it
Relax I`m just kinda busting balls !! LOL ;)
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my guess is he made the pec crossover pulley with a single pulley.
There is a good reason they are made with double pulleys. The returning force is very hard on a single pulley.
Feel the difference between a single pulley and a double pulley you will understand why it will tear pecs
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Relax I`m just busting balls !! LOL ;)
see. ;D
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This fella repeats a certain word a little excessively. I feel for the interrogators, I would have went insane. His speech should be illegal, I don't know how any girl could stand it.
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I'm taking a break from benching and focusing on dips and push-ups, no extra weight added, just bodyweight.
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see. ;D
LOL ;D
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This fella repeats a certain word a little excessively. I feel for the interrogators, I would have went insane. His speech should be illegal, I don't know how any girl could stand it.
the "like" is another one, it started with the Kardashians
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Here's a great discussion on why tendons tears usually occurs
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At the very end of the pec tear video he says what absolutely shouldn’t done if you tear your pec.
It’s basically everything Wood Hankins does..
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I tore my first tendon after training and powerlifting for 45 years. About 2 months ago I was having some tendonitis in his R elbow. I would get some burning in my elbow with pressing and extension exercises. I dropped the weight down a lot and warmed up really good and that usually worked of me. 2 months ago I did chest and triceps on Friday. It was burning in my elbow so I went light and had a ok workout. Saturday morning I went to press myself up with one arm while laying prone and I heard a loud rip. My arm gave out on me. I could not extend my R arm. I knew I tore it, could see it. Had the MRI and was a complete tear. Had it repaired the next week. Was in a cast for 1 week followed by a brace with my ROM limited for 7 weeks. They removed the brace the brace a week ago. I now have full ROM but damn my tricep it weak of course. I went back to the gym 3 days after my surgery and trained my left upper body and legs. That really helped me keep a lot of my size on my R. The dr was amazed. Had a good week this week rehab in the gym. Point of this long post. Listen to your body talking to you and it appears you get good overflow training one side of your body.
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I tore my first tendon after training and powerlifting for 45 years. About 2 months ago I was having some tendonitis in his R elbow. I would get some burning in my elbow with pressing and extension exercises. I dropped the weight down a lot and warmed up really good and that usually worked of me. 2 months ago I did chest and triceps on Friday. It was burning in my elbow so I went light and had a ok workout. Saturday morning I went to press myself up with one arm while laying prone and I heard a loud rip. My arm gave out on me. I could not extend my R arm. I knew I tore it, could see it. Had the MRI and was a complete tear. Had it repaired the next week. Was in a cast for 1 week followed by a brace with my ROM limited for 7 weeks. They removed the brace the brace a week ago. I now have full ROM but damn my tricep it weak of course. I went back to the gym 3 days after my surgery and trained my left upper body and legs. That really helped me keep a lot of my size on my R. The dr was amazed. Had a good week this week rehab in the gym. Point of this long post. Listen to your body talking to you and it appears you get good overflow training one side of your body.
Yes and tendonitis/ inflammation and can get chronic if you don't ease up and start rehab work.
I had tendonitis in my patellar tendon. Tore it tripping in a flight of stairs putting the foot down after a long fall really hard on concrete floor. Pretty damn embarrassing.. I think if It wasn't inflamed it wouldn't tear from that. But maybe...
It's been a year now and I'm back now squatting have progressed up to 270 deep squats for many reps. Eventually I want to go back to 315 but we'll see. I get good stimulation from just 270. I'm pretty happy how well the recovery went but I did alot of rehab, from day one every day for 6 months
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Yes and tendonitis/ inflammation and can get chronic if you don't ease up and start rehab work.
I had tendonitis in my patellar tendon. Tore it tripping in a flight of stairs putting the foot down after a long fall really hard on concrete floor. Pretty damn embarrassing.. I think if It wasn't inflamed it wouldn't tear from that. But maybe...
It's been a year now and I'm back now squatting have progressed up to 270 deep squats for many reps. Eventually I want to go back to 315 but we'll see. I get good stimulation from just 270. I'm pretty happy how well the recovery went but I did alot of rehab, from day one every day for 6 months
I think a lot of times you think if I hadn't done this or that on that day I wouldn't have had a tear but I think also a lot of times something was hanging by a thread and it would have have happened eventually anyway because there was trauma there you were unaware of.
Regarding rehab, I've written about it before, but after I had surgery for my bicep tear, at 12 weeks post-op I met the surgeon and he sort of got mad at me when I said I'm carefully rehabbing with low to moderate weights. He said I should be at max weights by now, "we want you back 100% like you were before. Just don't yank it but load heavy." :D I can see his point but on the other hand at some point you may sort of be too strong for your tendons :-\
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I think a lot of times you think if I hadn't done this or that on that day I wouldn't have had a tear but I think also a lot of times something was hanging by a thread and it would have have happened eventually anyway because there was trauma there you were unaware of.
Regarding rehab, I've written about it before, but after I had surgery for my bicep tear, at 12 weeks post-op I met the surgeon and he sort of got mad at me when I said I'm carefully rehabbing with low to moderate weights. He said I should be at max weights by now, "we want you back 100% like you were before. Just don't yank it but load heavy." :D I can see his point but on the other hand at some point you may sort of be too strong for your tendons :-\
Agreed.