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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: loco on April 15, 2026, 04:49:25 PM
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Wasn’t his liver banged up?
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It should be mentioned that...Jim Quinn said that they did a skin fold measurement which showed 0.0% bodyfat on Flex Wheeler at the Gold's in Venice one week before the 93 Mr. Olympia. He also said Flex was the only bodybuilder to ever do that.
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The guys today who die look like shit; at least he got some results.
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Genetic pre-dispositioon to 0% bodyfat.
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In this video I found this statement which I've never heard before. And never heard a bodybuilder experiencing. Is this really the case?
I quote from the video;
artifical testosterone docked on to receptors of the muscles and instructed the production of proteins which thickens the muscle walls((I guess thickening the muscle fascia?), blood vessles got restrained couldn't withstand bloodpressure and ruptured.
is this really a condition? thickning fascia? never heard of it.
Personally I think his kidneys where just failing acutely and that made his blood pressure race super high and in turn caused blood vessles rupture and internal bleeding. I don't think the theory they have of thickening muscle fascia is true. More likely just acute kidney failure due to whatever drugs abused. Maybe mostly because of diuretics but who knows
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In this video I found this statement which I've never heard before. And never heard a bodybuilder experiencing. Is this really the case?
I quote from the video;
is this really a condition? thickning fascia? never heard of it.
Personally I think his kidneys where just failing acutely and that made his blood pressure race super high and in turn caused blood vessles rupture and internal bleeding. I don't think the theory they have of thickening muscle fascia is true. More likely just acute kidney failure due to whatever drugs abused. Maybe mostly because of diuretics but who knows
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Austrian bodybuilder Andreas Münzer died on March 14, 1996, at age 31, due to dystrophic multiple organ failure following severe stomach bleeding, largely attributed to extreme abuse of diuretics, anabolic steroids, and other stimulants. His autopsy revealed nearly 0% body fat, a failing liver with tumors, and severe cardiac hypertrophy (heart weighing 636g).
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Autopsy Report and Findings
The autopsy, which highlighted the devastating toll of his drug regimen, revealed:
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Liver: Numerous large tumors (some the size of table tennis balls) were present, with half the liver reduced to a crumbly, polystyrene-like mass.
Heart: Cardiac hypertrophy was present, with his heart weighing 636g, significantly higher than the average man's 300–350g.
Other findings: Shriveled testes, severe dehydration, extremely high potassium levels, and acute toxicity, with traces of roughly 20 different drugs.
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Cause of Death
Cause: Dystrophic multiple organ failure.
Contributing Factors: Years of alleged, excessive use of anabolic steroids and potassium-sparing diuretics to maintain near-zero body fat.
Final Days: After months of stomach pain, he was hospitalized on March 12, 1996. Surgery revealed ruptured blood vessels in his stomach; his liver and kidneys failed shortly after.
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Münzer was famous for his incredibly dry, striated physique, but the same methods that brought him success on stage ultimately caused his death, making him a cautionary figure in professional bodybuilding.
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Dude had some awesome legs.
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FYI:
Austrian bodybuilder Andreas Münzer died on March 14, 1996, at age 31, due to dystrophic multiple organ failure following severe stomach bleeding, largely attributed to extreme abuse of diuretics, anabolic steroids, and other stimulants. His autopsy revealed nearly 0% body fat, a failing liver with tumors, and severe cardiac hypertrophy (heart weighing 636g).
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Autopsy Report and Findings
The autopsy, which highlighted the devastating toll of his drug regimen, revealed:
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Liver: Numerous large tumors (some the size of table tennis balls) were present, with half the liver reduced to a crumbly, polystyrene-like mass.
Heart: Cardiac hypertrophy was present, with his heart weighing 636g, significantly higher than the average man's 300–350g.
Other findings: Shriveled testes, severe dehydration, extremely high potassium levels, and acute toxicity, with traces of roughly 20 different drugs.
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Cause of Death
Cause: Dystrophic multiple organ failure.
Contributing Factors: Years of alleged, excessive use of anabolic steroids and potassium-sparing diuretics to maintain near-zero body fat.
Final Days: After months of stomach pain, he was hospitalized on March 12, 1996. Surgery revealed ruptured blood vessels in his stomach; his liver and kidneys failed shortly after.
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Münzer was famous for his incredibly dry, striated physique, but the same methods that brought him success on stage ultimately caused his death, making him a cautionary figure in professional bodybuilding.
Yes, we have all seen this
But the video mentioned something new, which was not in the autopsy report.
this part "artifical testosterone docked on to receptors of the muscles and instructed the production of proteins which thickens the muscle walls"
which I think is balonie/made up
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Who knows if he was drinking heavily while on cycle too. That was never noted, but it seems like it would account for the condition of his liver.
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Who knows if he was drinking heavily while on cycle too. That was never noted, but it seems like it would account for the condition of his liver.
I don't think so. I couldn't imagine him achieving his conditioning (that is among the best ever) drinking alcohol
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I don't think so. I couldn't imagine him achieving his conditioning (that is among the best ever) drinking alcohol
I don't know... Ronnie has said many times that Levrone got him to drinking vodka during prep and a good bit the night before prejudging to get into shape.
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I don't know... Ronnie has said many times that Levrone got him to drinking vodka during prep and a good bit the night before prejudging to get into shape.
few cl of wiskey night before the competition... not the same thing as an alcoholic causing liver failure from drinking every day
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few cl of wiskey night before the competition... not the same thing as an alcoholic causing liver failure from drinking every day
Maybe he was an alcoholic. Who knows? I'm just saying that it is possible that something other than what he was taking contributed to that. Diuretics usually result in kidney issues. Alcohol hits the liver. I'm just posting this as a maybe, not as a fact.
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Maybe he was an alcoholic. Who knows? I'm just saying that it is possible that something other than what he was taking contributed to that. Diuretics usually result in kidney issues. Alcohol hits the liver. I'm just posting this as a maybe, not as a fact.
he was taking 20 halotestin tablets a day year round FFS
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he was taking 20 halotestin tablets a day year round FFS
If it were just roids, then half of the pros today would be dropping dead.
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:D
look at this guy...
almost münzer like conditioning...
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Weird - I very rarely talk about bodybuilding in real life, but literally this morning I was reminiscing with a friend about Munzer.
Although I've read the same things as everyone else about tumours etc. that thing about ignoring stomach pain for months has always made me wonder if he'd gone to the doctor would he have caught all this and been able to row it back? ???
All the recent heart attacks - and what happened to Momo back then - are immediate - slower deaths like this and that Derek fella feel more avoidable
Oh well..
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This case reminds me of Dallas Mccarver a bit.
Whatever reason their deaths were attributed to were just one of the many similar problems they both had.
Seems like the plan for this industry is to allow synthol like oils, other injectables, and prosthetics so they stay alive.
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with traces of roughly 20 different drugs.
he was taking 20 halotestin tablets a day year round FFS
^^^^FUCKING INSANE !!!!!!!!!11111111111
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Genetic disposition to tennis ball size liver tumors and oversize heart.
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Genetic disposition to tennis ball size liver tumors and oversize heart.
It was all worth it!!
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FYI:
Austrian bodybuilder Andreas Münzer died on March 14, 1996, at age 31, due to dystrophic multiple organ failure following severe stomach bleeding, largely attributed to extreme abuse of diuretics, anabolic steroids, and other stimulants. His autopsy revealed nearly 0% body fat, a failing liver with tumors, and severe cardiac hypertrophy (heart weighing 636g).
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Autopsy Report and Findings
The autopsy, which highlighted the devastating toll of his drug regimen, revealed:
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Liver: Numerous large tumors (some the size of table tennis balls) were present, with half the liver reduced to a crumbly, polystyrene-like mass.
Heart: Cardiac hypertrophy was present, with his heart weighing 636g, significantly higher than the average man's 300–350g.
Other findings: Shriveled testes, severe dehydration, extremely high potassium levels, and acute toxicity, with traces of roughly 20 different drugs.
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Cause of Death
Cause: Dystrophic multiple organ failure.
Contributing Factors: Years of alleged, excessive use of anabolic steroids and potassium-sparing diuretics to maintain near-zero body fat.
Final Days: After months of stomach pain, he was hospitalized on March 12, 1996. Surgery revealed ruptured blood vessels in his stomach; his liver and kidneys failed shortly after.
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Münzer was famous for his incredibly dry, striated physique, but the same methods that brought him success on stage ultimately caused his death, making him a cautionary figure in professional bodybuilding.
HMMMM I see he didn't have the required Constitution for Bodybuilding
As it appears he was only playing at it with those light dosages 🤷🏻♂️
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It was all worth it!!
Munzer did well despite his handicaps.
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HMMMM I see he didn't have the required Constitution for Bodybuilding
As it appears he was only playing at it with those light dosages 🤷🏻♂️
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he was taking 20 halotestin tablets a day year round FFS
Is that all - Fucking light weight
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I remember him using boatloads of aspirin to keep his blood thinner.
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I'm not sure which competition is from but the most muscular shot of his that is commonly shared is one of the most insane bodybuilding pictures in history!
The striations in his chest and shoulders would make an anatomy chart self-conscious and make Derek lunsford look 16 weeks out!!!
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I'm not sure which competition is from but the most muscular shot of his that is commonly shared is one of the most insane bodybuilding pictures in history!
The striations in his chest and shoulders would make an anatomy chart self-conscious and make Derek lunsford look 16 weeks out!!!
Yes, a true freak! I envied his condition up until the day he died.
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Is that all - Fucking light weight, i´m on a Bottle of Diazepam daily
Fixed !
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Guy is shredded, but his lower waist area looks like bread that rose like too much dough in the corners
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FYI:
Austrian bodybuilder Andreas Münzer died on March 14, 1996, at age 31, due to dystrophic multiple organ failure following severe stomach bleeding, largely attributed to extreme abuse of diuretics, anabolic steroids, and other stimulants. His autopsy revealed nearly 0% body fat, a failing liver with tumors, and severe cardiac hypertrophy (heart weighing 636g).
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Autopsy Report and Findings
The autopsy, which highlighted the devastating toll of his drug regimen, revealed:
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Liver: Numerous large tumors (some the size of table tennis balls) were present, with half the liver reduced to a crumbly, polystyrene-like mass.
Heart: Cardiac hypertrophy was present, with his heart weighing 636g, significantly higher than the average man's 300–350g.
Other findings: Shriveled testes, severe dehydration, extremely high potassium levels, and acute toxicity, with traces of roughly 20 different drugs.
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Cause of Death
Cause: Dystrophic multiple organ failure.
Contributing Factors: Years of alleged, excessive use of anabolic steroids and potassium-sparing diuretics to maintain near-zero body fat.
Final Days: After months of stomach pain, he was hospitalized on March 12, 1996. Surgery revealed ruptured blood vessels in his stomach; his liver and kidneys failed shortly after.
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Münzer was famous for his incredibly dry, striated physique, but the same methods that brought him success on stage ultimately caused his death, making him a cautionary figure in professional bodybuilding.
It was from cytraden
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This fucking goes to what I was saying in the Arnold height thread. 22" lean arms are SUPER RARE even today, and only arm-heavy mass monsters have them. The neckzilla guy and all the other pros are at ~20.5" at best! A lot of lean guys who look pretty big are 16-17", including the super lean guy. Even the most obese strongmen are just a fraction over 21".
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i remember reading in flex magazine they said he had huge tumors on his liver like the size of grape fruits
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wes wasnt munzer known to look like that year round ? if i remember right.
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i remember reading in flex magazine they said he had huge tumors on his liver like the size of grape fruits
Steve Michalik had the same liver tumors / cysts
But he survived. Years later put a gun to his head while his kids were in the next room. Class act
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Steve Michalik had the same liver tumors / cysts
But he survived. Years later put a gun to his head while his kids were in the next room. Class act
That dude was insane
I remember his clients would do one session with him and couldn’t move for days
He really was insane
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wes wasnt munzer known to look like that year round ? if i remember right.
I`m not sure if he stayed that lean all the time my friend ???
If he did,it`s no wonder he died......the drug cocktail needed to maintain that condition year round would be insane.
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I`m not sure if he stayed that lean all the time my friend ???
If he did,it`s no wonder he died......the drug cocktail needed to maintain that condition year round would be insane.
Yeah we’d I swear I read that of course that was like 32 years ago 😀
Back then it was rare for a pro to die online today
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Yeah we’d I swear I read that of course that was like 32 years ago 😀
Back then it was rare for a pro to die online today
Their dropping like flies these days,and at fairly young ages. :(
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From what Ive read and heard over the years the impression I got was Munzer wouldn't listen to anyone who told him to slow down and dial it back. People who talked with him about what he took, how much and why, were surprised at how little he knew about the pharmacology of it.
When you are already known as the most ripped bodybuilder ever and year after year you put on more and more size but you're still placing in the bottom of the top 10 its time to find a different sport, but he just continuously upped the dose until he was maxed out year around.
Internal organs and bodily systems (nervous system, circulatory system, respiratory system etc...) work together. When any begin to fail, the others compensate by working harder- which then taxes those systems/organs as well. When one fails its only a matter of time before the others fail too. At some point, he was a dead man walking.
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From what Ive read and heard over the years the impression I got was Munzer wouldn't listen to anyone who told him to slow down and dial it back. People who talked with him about what he took, how much and why, were surprised at how little he knew about the pharmacology of it.
When you are already known as the most ripped bodybuilder ever and year after year you put on more and more size but you're still placing in the bottom of the top 10 its time to find a different sport, but he just continuously upped the dose until he was maxed out year around.
Internal organs and bodily systems (nervous system, circulatory system, respiratory system etc...) work together. When any begin to fail, the others compensate by working harder- which then taxes those systems/organs as well. When one fails its only a matter of time before the others fail too. At some point, he was a dead man walking.
I seem to recall an article that pointed the finger towards his 'sponsor' in Germany - gym owner maybe? Made him stay in shape year round for guest posing, etc. And didn't he enter every competition every year, like Milos and others on the tour?
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From what Ive read and heard over the years the impression I got was Munzer wouldn't listen to anyone who told him to slow down and dial it back. People who talked with him about what he took, how much and why, were surprised at how little he knew about the pharmacology of it.
When you are already known as the most ripped bodybuilder ever and year after year you put on more and more size but you're still placing in the bottom of the top 10 its time to find a different sport, but he just continuously upped the dose until he was maxed out year around.
Internal organs and bodily systems (nervous system, circulatory system, respiratory system etc...) work together. When any begin to fail, the others compensate by working harder- which then taxes those systems/organs as well. When one fails its only a matter of time before the others fail too. At some point, he was a dead man walking.
i got fifth at the 94 asc and 4th at the 95 asc and was dead a year later .
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Cytadren he died from taking cytadren. It caused him to bleed out. C Y T A D R E N
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Cytadren he died from taking cytadren. It caused him to bleed out. C Y T A D R E N
Yeah that stuff makes you feel like absolute shit, we used to take it block cortisol coming into shows, aminogluthemide. Munzer also took a lot of orals, a lot of guys in the 90s would drop oils and switch to orals and water based close to the show to get as dry as humanly possible over the bloat babies of today. Condition was everything back in those days.
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I seem to recall an article that pointed the finger towards his 'sponsor' in Germany - gym owner maybe? Made him stay in shape year round for guest posing, etc. And didn't he enter every competition every year, like Milos and others on the tour?
Albert Busek's Role
Mentor and Gym Owner: Albert Busek, a major figure in European bodybuilding and former IFBB vice president for Europe, was the owner of the gym where Andreas Münzer trained and was employed.
Controversy: Some accounts have hinted at a complex relationship, suggesting that, due to the pressure of being a "Leistungszentrum" athlete, Münzer faced immense pressure to maintain his "shredded" condition, which was famously close to 0% body fat.
I remember Albert Busek had a well known Mag in Germany called SportRevue , bought it a few times.
Busek was involved in Arnold´s early Career too
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Steve Michalik had the same liver tumors / cysts
But he survived. Years later put a gun to his head while his kids were in the next room. Class act
He and Benny Podda were the craziest bodybuilders of all time.
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Albert Busek's Role
Mentor and Gym Owner: Albert Busek, a major figure in European bodybuilding and former IFBB vice president for Europe, was the owner of the gym where Andreas Münzer trained and was employed.
Controversy: Some accounts have hinted at a complex relationship, suggesting that, due to the pressure of being a "Leistungszentrum" athlete, Münzer faced immense pressure to maintain his "shredded" condition, which was famously close to 0% body fat.
I remember Albert Busek had a well known Mag in Germany called SportRevue , bought it a few times.
Busek was involved in Arnold´s early Career too
That's the fella! Thanks Donny 8)
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That's the fella! Thanks Donny 8)
in his favor his mag was actually quite good & i learned a lot of German from it ;D
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He and Benny Podda were the craziest bodybuilders of all time.
That would be a nice new topic!
I think Retard Ronnie and Rich Piana belong on that list
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Reduced his liver to dust
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He and Benny Podda were the craziest bodybuilders of all time.
Wasn’t he known to train 100 sets per body part and train for hrs
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Johnny Fuller was pretty fucking weird...did 32 sets of 32 reps while wrapped in a trash bag !!
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^^^^Benny Podda
He also lived in a fucking cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 :o
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Personally I think his kidneys where just failing acutely and that made his blood pressure race super high and in turn caused blood vessles rupture and internal bleeding. I don't think the theory they have of thickening muscle fascia is true. More likely just acute kidney failure due to whatever drugs abused. Maybe mostly because of diuretics but who knows
Maybe he was an alcoholic. Who knows? I'm just saying that it is possible that something other than what he was taking contributed to that. Diuretics usually result in kidney issues. Alcohol hits the liver. I'm just posting this as a maybe, not as a fact.
I think it's possible blood filled tumors in his liver ruptured causing his death. The tumors are benign but if they rupture it's obviously a serious situation. Called peliosis hepatitis. More bodybuilders might have them unknowingly. A few guys on forums have found out they have them when checking for something else. I'm sure I've taken more orals than Munzer ever took but recent scans have shown everything to be normal which I didn't take as a given. Usually orals cause cholestatic hepatitis and jaundice as a sign before your liver is totally destroyed but it's remarkably rare all things considered, so I'm not sure why Munzer had that horrible liver upon autopsy.
I think the cycle found on him was "real" although Milos claimed it listed weekly doses instead of daily. Nah, it wouldn't make sense that way. Many have exceeded his doses too. He used 3.5 grams of test supposedly but you have guys like amateur bb Chase Irons trying up to 10 grams LOL. Not continuously but Munzer milligrams for some stretches for sure, and supposedly with ok blood work.
This guy. For example, got to 280lbs on 3500 test, 1500 Masteron, 18iu Serostim.
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Johnny Fuller was pretty fucking weird...did 32 sets of 32 reps while wrapped in a trash bag !!
Holy shit Wes did you ever witness this
I can only imagine that a smelly bodybuilder wrapped in a trash bag while training for hrs
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Holy shit Wes did you ever witness this
I can only imagine that a smelly bodybuilder wrapped in a trash bag while training for hrs
No, I read it in the magazines.
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He and Benny Podda were the craziest bodybuilders of all time.
That would be a nice new topic!
I think Retard Ronnie and Rich Piana belong on that list
Good idea - adding Michalik and Defendis maybe? (Why do I think Wes might have known this dude?)
And do you think Mike Quinn might count?
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Good idea - adding Michalik and Defendis maybe? (Why do I think Wes might have known this dude?)
And do you think Mike Quinn might count?
I never met Michalik but at one time he was my idol cuz he trained like an animal.
NO HOMO
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Albert Busek's Role
Mentor and Gym Owner: Albert Busek, a major figure in European bodybuilding and former IFBB vice president for Europe, was the owner of the gym where Andreas Münzer trained and was employed.
Controversy: Some accounts have hinted at a complex relationship, suggesting that, due to the pressure of being a "Leistungszentrum" athlete, Münzer faced immense pressure to maintain his "shredded" condition, which was famously close to 0% body fat.
I remember Albert Busek had a well known Mag in Germany called SportRevue , bought it a few times.
Busek was involved in Arnold´s early Career too
Interesting, Busek was known for being the photographer of the so iconic Arnold photoshoot the day after the 1980 Mr.O outdoors in Sydney ..... while people looked at Arnold as if he were some kind of Android,
All goes back to 1980 O
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Johnny Fuller was pretty fucking weird...did 32 sets of 32 reps while wrapped in a trash bag !!
Fuller had a great physique outside of his unfortunate pec tear. Seriously for the early 80's he had one of the densest, compact physiques I ever saw.
He also ate a lot of onions.
Maybe he ate liver and onions, which is a fairly common dish in some parts. But the article I read only mentioned the onions, and if I remember correctly the article said he ate onions like one would eat an apple.
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Fuller had a great physique outside of his unfortunate pec tear. Seriously for the early 80's he had one of the densest, compact physiques I ever saw.
He also ate a lot of onions.
Maybe he ate liver and onions, which is a fairly common dish in some parts. But the article I read only mentioned the onions, and if I remember correctly the article said he ate onions like one would eat an apple.
I eat a couple of raw red onions with meals most days, simply because they taste good but perhaps they are healthy too. All types of onions are great ;D
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Fuller had a great physique outside of his unfortunate pec tear. Seriously for the early 80's he had one of the densest, compact physiques I ever saw.
He also ate a lot of onions.
Maybe he ate liver and onions, which is a fairly common dish in some parts. But the article I read only mentioned the onions, and if I remember correctly the article said he ate onions like one would eat an apple.
I was wrong....it was 10 sets of 32 reps....sorry`bout that!! ;)
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Would also blend liver in a blender and drink it!! :-X
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^^^^Benny Podda
He also lived in a fucking cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 :o
And hung weights off his balls.
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expert on nurtition doesnt drink blended raw liver and sets of 32 reps just means hes got OCD
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The guys today who die look like shit; at least he got some results.
Brutal if true
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expert on nurtition doesnt drink blended raw liver and sets of 32 reps just means hes got OCD
Didn't Samir claim Fuller made all that shit up?
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I remember buying the Flex Mag with Andreas arm on cover ....
That's how old we are
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH
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“liver consisting simply of a crumbly mass that was similar to polystyrene)”
The guy really pushed the limit.
Guy was dead before I ever bought my first BB magazine. I only started working at the earliest 94’.
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I eat a couple of raw red onions with meals most days, simply because they taste good but perhaps they are healthy too. All types of onions are great ;D
On an older forum I remember a guy posting about eating several onions a day. I don't remember exactly how many, but it was a lot. Like, 6 or more a day. He was doing it because he read an article about onions raising testosterone. He posted blood work too. But the crazy thing was his test levels were naturally very high before he started the onions experiment. His natural test levels were well above the upper limit of what was considered normal ranges. I don't know how it turned out. For some reason I stopped posting there around that time.