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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Religious Debates & Threads => Topic started by: a_joker10 on May 09, 2006, 03:15:05 PM
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The was a girl in my own province made national news.
http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=2630
A 2 year-old girl named Karlee Kasolofski, of Rouleau, Saskatchewan
(Canada) was nearly frozen to death a week ago. She was accidently left
outside her home at 2:30 am in the early morning of Wednesday,
February 23 and not discovered until 8 am in the morning, dressed only
in a jacket, boots and a nightgown. Air temperature was -22 degrees
Celcius, with a windchill factor equivalent to 40 degrees below zero.
When Karlee was discovered, she had no pulse or heartbeat, and was
not breathing. No one knows how long she had gone without breathing. Her
legs appear to have been frozen solid. Her core body temperature had
dropped to 14 degrees Celcius, yet she was revived.
She survived, that is a miracle. Science maybe able to explain how she survived, but her survival is a miracle.
God, Spagetti monster or what ever other name you want to use, helped her survive.
Everyone associated with this case said it was a miracle.
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All hail ze moon god 8)
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Dang a_joker that is a miracle! I hope she's doing well. How did she get accidently left outside at 2:30am?
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She was following her dad to work and was locked out of the house.
Here are some more cases.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/health/hypothermia.html
There are more stories that defy science.
Feel free to contribute your own, or stories that you have heard.
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She was following her dad to work and was locked out of the house.
Here are some more cases.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/health/hypothermia.html
There are more stories that defy science.
Feel free to contribute your own, or stories that you have heard.
It doesn't defy science.
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It doesn't defy science.
Sorry but it does!
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Sorry but it does!
Explain how.
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Explain how.
Explain how it doesn't!
I can't explain Miracles that why there Miracles :-\!
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Explain how it doesn't!
I can't explain Miracles that why there Miracles :-\!
Hypothermia is a well documented occurence in medicine & Science.
The freezing tempeture slows the metabolism so that it body doesn't need as much oxygen or blood flow to the brain. This is why there wasn't braindamage. When the bodys core tempeture is lowered thus is it's need for oxygen. This has been used in surgery alot, Including heart transplants.
Didn't you even read the article? It explains all of this.
"Miracles" are a farse. Why do select people who survive in rare instances become "miracles" but others who die are simply tragedies?
If you attribute the good things in life to "God" then you also must attribute the bad. Hurricanes,Tornados,Plagues,Viruses,Tsunamis,Diseases,Pain,Suffering,Death,Famine....
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The reason I posted this story is that it can't be repeated with science.
Cryogenics do not work.
This theory can't be repeated so it is not a valid theory.
There can be many theories about her survival, but an explanation by science is not proof.
I believe it was God's will.
If you want explanation of God's will in nature and why hurricanes and tornadoes happen. Then look at world
1 The world is not perfect.
2. God allows the earth to live. Disasters are a part how the earth lives. This survival of the earth is imparitive for the survival of us.
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Hypothermia is a well documented occurence in medicine & Science.
The freezing tempeture slows the metabolism so that it body doesn't need as much oxygen or blood flow to the brain. This is why there wasn't braindamage. When the bodys core tempeture is lowered thus is it's need for oxygen. This has been used in surgery alot, Including heart transplants.
Didn't you even read the article? It explains all of this.
"Miracles" are a farse. Why do select people who survive in rare instances become "miracles" but others who die are simply tragedies?
If you attribute the good things in life to "God" then you also must attribute the bad. Hurricanes,Tornados,Plagues,Viruses,Tsunamis,Diseases,Pain,Suffering,Death,Famine....
Will you care to demonstrate?
Didn't think so. So shut up!
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The reason I posted this story is that it can't be repeated with science.
Cryogenics do not work.
This theory can't be repeated so it is not a valid theory.
There can be many theories about her survival, but an explanation by science is not proof.
I believe it was God's will.
From the link YOU posted...
In 1950, Bigelow made a discovery that went against standard medical practice. He found how to safely lower the body's need for oxygen by lowering the body's core temperature. On its own it doesn't sound like much, but the technique was intended to make the first open-heart surgery possible – and it succeeded.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/health/hypothermia.html
Explanation repeatable...
If you want explanation of God's will in nature and why hurricanes and tornadoes happen. Then look at world
1 The world is not perfect.
2. God allows the earth to live. Disasters are a part how the earth lives. This survival of the earth is imparitive for the survival of us.
1.It isn't perfect because he made it imperfect.(Thus he's responsible)
2.The earth could function without diasters with a OMNIPOTENT BEING in control. No reason why it couldn't.(Thus he's responsible)