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Title: Do Professional Bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 07:44:15 AM
I've heard recently that a few well known Pros. have beat their wives or girlfriends and it got me wondering if statistically bodybuilders are more likely to be involved with domestic abuse than other professions.

If you really think about it, combining the drugs, the egos, the incredible stress the body is under getting in shape for a show and the humiliating way some bodybuilders have to make money then it's no wonder abuse happens.

Also, the field of Pros. is so small that even 4 or 5 abusers would be a relatively high percentage.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 12, 2006, 07:47:43 AM
I know of 4 or 5 off the top of my head... sad.  I think the personality weighs in just as much as the gear/test levels. 
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 07:55:11 AM
I think that's probably a good point, it certainly does take a distinct personality type to want to do all that is required to be a Professional Bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: karasan on May 12, 2006, 07:57:56 AM
IFBB Pro Ray McNeill was beating his wife,then she blew his lil' brain with a shotgun...
Sometimes life is fair, ain't it?
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: DK II on May 12, 2006, 07:59:12 AM
I've heard recently that a few well known Pros. have beat their wives or girlfriends and it got me wondering if statistically bodybuilders are more likely to be involved with domestic abuse than other professions.

If you really think about it, combining the drugs, the egos, the incredible stress the body is under getting in shape for a show and the humiliating way some bodybuilders have to make money then it's no wonder abuse happens.

Also, the field of Pros. is so small that even 4 or 5 abusers would be a relatively high percentage.

Roid rage!  ;)
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 12, 2006, 08:01:47 AM
IFBB Pro Ray McNeill was beating his wife,then she blew his lil' brain with a shotgun...
Sometimes life is fair, ain't it?

Anyone who beats their spouse is a bag of crap who deserves a pretty good beating himself.... but the reason Sally is in prison right now is that the jury doesn't believe it's worthy of an execution.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 08:06:19 AM
Roid rage!  ;)

I think that certainly plays a part but I don't think it's the full explanation. I think the journey to becoming a Pro and staying a Pro breaks down whatever moral compass was there to begin with.

Shawn Ray immediately comes to mind with his involvement with VYO-Tech and their sponsorship of that kid Little Hercules.

Why the hell would a bodybuilding supplement company pay a 14 year old to represent them? Does Ray need money so badly that he sees nothing wrong with it? The kid was force fed steroids by his father when he was 7 or 8 years old.

Think about that for a second, a 7 or 8 year old on test. It's a disgrace.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: gracie bjj on May 12, 2006, 08:06:37 AM
they are just people like the rest of us and can fall victim to domestic abuse and other things just like anyone else who cant control their tempers at times
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 08:09:19 AM
they are just people like the rest of us and can fall victim to domestic abuse and other things just like anyone else who cant control their tempers at times

I would guess on a percentage basis Professional Bodybuilders are far more likely to be domestic abusers than almost any other profession.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 12, 2006, 08:11:01 AM
I think it does, definetly...  but I also agree that personality has as much to do with it as anything else. There's a great quote about steroids "if you were an asshole before, you'll be an even bigger asshole on steroids" 
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: DK II on May 12, 2006, 08:14:52 AM
I think it does, definetly...  but I also agree that personality has as much to do with it as anything else. There's a great quote about steroids "if you were an asshole before, you'll be an even bigger asshole on steroids" 

Totally agree on this one. That is why i stay natural. I don't want to imagine me having a M E L T down  on Roids.

(edit> why the fuck can't you write m.e.l.t.d.o.w.n. ???)
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 08:54:25 AM
I think that certainly plays a part but I don't think it's the full explanation. I think the journey to becoming a Pro and staying a Pro breaks down whatever moral compass was there to begin with.

Shawn Ray immediately comes to mind with his involvement with VYO-Tech and their sponsorship of that kid Little Hercules.

Why the hell would a bodybuilding supplement company pay a 14 year old to represent them? Does Ray need money so badly that he sees nothing wrong with it? The kid was force fed steroids by his father when he was 7 or 8 years old.

Think about that for a second, a 7 or 8 year old on test. It's a disgrace.

  You sound like you're jealous of a 14 year old ::)
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: Tre on May 12, 2006, 09:02:51 AM
I would think that the frequency among bodybuilders would be roughly the same as in the general population. 

But as many of us are well are, the types of chemicals used by bodybuilders have a tendency to enhance what's already inside a person, be that good or bad. 

Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 09:05:22 AM
  You sound like you're jealous of a 14 year old ::)

Hi Lucius, please don't post in my threads. I asked a serious question and your postwhoring isn't adding anything of substance. Thank you.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 09:06:40 AM
Hi Lucius, please don't post in my threads. Thank you.

Hope this helps.

 I'm not saying that you are. It's just that it seems like it. If you aren't, just let me know. I trust you.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 09:09:47 AM
Hi Lucius, please don't post in my threads. I asked a serious question and your postwhoring isn't adding anything of substance. Thank you.

Hope this helps.

Bump
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 09:12:01 AM
Bump

  What did the Little Hercules comment have to do with bodybuilders and domestic violence? You're calling me a postwhore when you just typed "bump". The irony is delicious ::)
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: walking sculpture on May 12, 2006, 09:17:27 AM
I know one pro that wrestles his wife to the ground and holds here there until she crys... Is that domestic abuse?
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 09:18:26 AM
I know one pro that wrestles his wife to the ground and holds here there until she crys... Is that domestic abuse?

  For some reason this seems funny ;D I know it shouldn't, though :-\
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 09:18:49 AM
  What did the Little Hercules comment have to do with bodybuilders and domestic violence? You're calling me a postwhore when you just typed "bump". The irony is delicious ::)

I'm asking nicely, please don't post in my threads. Your posts add less than nothing.

And if you can't see the moral similarity between domestic abuse and exploiting a 14 year old that was force fed steroids as a 7 year old then I think you need to either smack your parents for passing on those genes or sue whatever college or university that you're paying to educate you.

Also, there is no irony in someone with far less than 700 posts in two years bumping a quote asking you who has nearly 6000 posts in 6 weeks to not post in a thread. See above regarding slapping your parents or suing your college or university because of your lack of intelligence and comprehension.  

Either way please stop posting in my threads, you add nothing and this is a serious topic.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 09:22:18 AM
I'm asking nicely, please don't post in my threads. Your posts add less than nothing.

And if you can't see the moral similarity between domestic abuse and exploiting a 14 year old that was force fed steroids as a 7 year old then I think you need to either smack your parents for passing on those genes or sue whatever college or university that you're paying to educate you.

Also, there is no irony in someone with far less than 700 posts in two years bumping a quote asking you who has nearly 6000 posts in 6 weeks to not post in a thread. See above regarding slapping your parents or suing your college or university because of your lack of intelligence and comprehension.  

Either way please stop posting in my threads, you add nothing and this is a serious topic.

  I think we should also explore the habits of lower tier bodybuilders. Although it seems like top tier ones are likely to be abusive, what about the guys who do it as a hobby, with no intention of winning, or perhaps even of placing well? I think we should also keep in mind that wealthier athletes may be able to use money to keep some minor problems under wraps.

 
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: DK II on May 12, 2006, 09:23:15 AM
Quote
Either way please stop posting in my threads, you add nothing and this is a serious topic.

I didn't know things like this existed on this board.  :o
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 09:25:30 AM
I didn't know things like this existed on this board.  :o

 He has some sort of beef with Alexxx and I ;D
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: DK II on May 12, 2006, 09:26:54 AM
Maybe you should also consider if winners are less abusive than losers.

winning a Mr. Olympia should let you jerk off and laugh in the face of illness and death, not to mention winning 8 Olympias.

What about losing every contest you compete in? Will it make you more brutal and depressive, will you blame it on the roids and take more and more making you even more aggressive?
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: DK II on May 12, 2006, 09:28:05 AM
He has some sort of beef with Alexxx and I ;D

That is not true! I like funny guys, and laughing is far better than cardio.

I just think that tickling the right places may result in a better way to lose fat for me.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 09:32:40 AM
He has some sort of beef with Alexxx and I ;D

Please stop, I'm asking nicely.

And I'm sure you making the above quotes just to get me to reply but it's you and your alter ego thisiskeith that I don't think add any kind of substance. At least Alex is funny. I've never had a problem with him.

There are hundreds of other threads for you to destroy, can you please post in one of them and not in this one.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 09:33:51 AM
Please stop, I'm asking nicely.

And I'm sure you making the above quotes just to get me to reply but it's you and your alter ego thisiskeith that I don't think add any kind of substance. At least Alex is funny. I've never had a problem with him.

There are hundreds of other threads for you to destroy, can you please post in one of them and not in this one.

Thanks in advance.

  Admit that thisiskeith is not my alter ego and I won't post in your thread.
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: Ex Coelis on May 12, 2006, 10:03:17 AM
Hi Lucius, please don't post in my threads. I asked a serious question and your postwhoring isn't adding anything of substance. Thank you.

Hope this helps.

Lucius is a good guy. When you look past his previous post whoring you can see he's a genuine person with terrific insight. He's definetly an asset to Getbig and anywhere else he expresses himself
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 10:06:10 AM
Lucius is a good guy. When you look past his previous post whoring you can see he's a genuine person with terrific insight. He's definetly an asset to Getbig and anywhere else he expresses himself

  Thanks for the support, Big Poppa J! I don't know why ieffinhatecardio hates me so much :-\  :'(  ;D
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: sgt. d on May 12, 2006, 01:02:34 PM
Just a lil "hint hint"



IEFFINHATECARDIO IS ALSO 240 OR BUST

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 01:04:30 PM
Just a lil "hint hint"



IEFFINHATECARDIO IS ALSO 240 OR BUST

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Hey, how's it going weedouttheweak. How's that whole "Shut The Fuck Up And Train" thing going for you?

Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 01:05:11 PM
Just a lil "hint hint"



IEFFINHATECARDIO IS ALSO 240 OR BUST

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

  Why is 240 posting as someone else again? Why can't he just stick to one account? :-\
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: sgt. d on May 12, 2006, 01:06:58 PM
Hey, how's it going weedouttheweak. How's that whole "Shut The f**k Up And Train" thing going for you?



 I'm white now  ::)

damn your an idiot

Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: sgt. d on May 12, 2006, 01:08:44 PM
 Why is 240 posting as someone else again? Why can't he just stick to one account? :-\

the guy needs help
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 01:10:12 PM
the guy needs help

 If that really is him then I have to agree with you :-\
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on May 12, 2006, 01:13:12 PM
I'm white now  ::)

damn your an idiot



Hey genius, it's you're not your.

At least get it right if you're going to call me an idiot.


If that really is him then I have to agree with you :-\

Thanks for absolutely ruining the thread with your pointless blather, congratulations.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=68041.msg1040950#new
Title: Re: Do Professional bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 01:27:22 PM
Hey genius, it's you're not your.

At least get it right if you're going to call me an idiot.


Thanks for absolutely ruining the thread with your pointless blather, congratulations.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=68041.msg1040950#new


 I told you that if you admitted that thisiskeith and I are not the same person that I would leave the thread. Why didn't you just do that? :-\
Title: Re: Do Professional Bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: DK II on May 12, 2006, 02:51:09 PM
i really think professional bodybuilders shouldn't have problems with domestic violence at all.

If you train really hard, you are to exhausted to beat up your wife.
Title: Re: Do Professional Bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: HRDCOR on May 12, 2006, 02:52:47 PM
I beat my meat , is that classed as abuse ? :-\
Title: Re: Do Professional Bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 12, 2006, 02:53:26 PM
sgt D, this is the part where I challenge you to put up or shut up, put down $100 with Ron and have him contact both members via PM, phone, etc.  

Then, you realize you don't have the sack or knowledge, and back down.

Ask Ron, he'll tell you. I have one account.  No time for anything more than that!  Besides, what would be the point of making a post and not including that lovely web address that sits under my avatar? ;)
Title: Re: Do Professional Bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: Azure on May 12, 2006, 06:08:53 PM
The diet, drugs, constant pressure of being judged by your physique alone and nothing else is enough to drive anyone crazy  ::)

For some of you guys this is all fun and games, but for many of these guys this is their livelihood...this is how they make a living and I think that gets to them at times.

I do think competitive bodybuilders have a proclivity toward domestic violence because these type A control freak personalities are the ones who are attracted to this activity.
Title: Re: Do Professional Bodybuilders show a propensity towards domestic abuse?
Post by: sgt. d on May 12, 2006, 06:09:55 PM
sgt D, this is the part where I challenge you to put up or shut up, put down $100 with Ron and have him contact both members via PM, phone, etc.  

Then, you realize you don't have the sack or knowledge, and back down.

Ask Ron, he'll tell you. I have one account.  No time for anything more than that!  Besides, what would be the point of making a post and not including that lovely web address that sits under my avatar? ;)

melt d0wn