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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: 4thAD on May 17, 2006, 05:54:52 PM
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HCG - 5000iu amp & solution (Pregnyl)
3 x 5000 iu (plus solution)
Proviron - BD (British Dragon)
6 x 10 tabs (50mg)
Methanabol (10mg) (British Dragon)
1 x 100 tabs (10mg)
Testabol Depot 200 (British Dragon)
3 x 10 ml (200mg/ml)
Decabol 250 (British Dragon)
2 x 10 ml (250mg/ml)
Nolvadex (Sepapharm)
3 x box (30 x 20mg tabs)
This is pretty cheap, Or do you think I should just keep it simple and run 16 weeks test Cyp with 4 weeks M1T. This is my first cycle with AAS...
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HCG - 5000iu amp & solution (Pregnyl)
3 x 5000 iu (plus solution)
Proviron - BD (British Dragon)
6 x 10 tabs (50mg)
Methanabol (10mg) (British Dragon)
1 x 100 tabs (10mg)
Testabol Depot 200 (British Dragon)
3 x 10 ml (200mg/ml)
Decabol 250 (British Dragon)
2 x 10 ml (250mg/ml)
Nolvadex (Sepapharm)
3 x box (30 x 20mg tabs)
This is pretty cheap, Or do you think I should just keep it simple and run 16 weeks test Cyp with 4 weeks M1T. This is my first cycle with AAS...
Are you an idiot?
I think I've said like most of the veterans that you need to keep it simple for a newbie cycle.
That means 12 weeks of Test.
Drop the M1T.......who recommended that?
You might want to have HCG and Nolvadex for PCT but that should be the extent of it.
DIV
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Sorry bud but I have to agree with Div, my past two cycles were "going in blind: I was told to take this and do that. Now after being on this forum for 3 weeks I see the mistakes I made. I am getting ready to buy my gear for my third cycle and I am glued to these boards so that I do this one right.....
Is a few weeks I already learned that you should be doing a cycle like this.
Structure:
1-10 500mg/week testosterone
1-4 35mg/day dbol
12-14 clomid 150mg/day
15-16 clomid 50mg/day
12-16 nolvadex 40mg/day
And I am by no means a pro.........
Go ask alexxx I bet that tool will steer ya in the right direction. hehehehehe
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Sorry bud but I have to agree with Div, my past two cycles were "going in blind: I was told to take this and do that. Now after being on this forum for 3 weeks I see the mistakes I made. I am getting ready to buy my gear for my third cycle and I am glued to these boards so that I do this one right.....
Is a few weeks I already learned that you should be doing a cycle like this.
Structure:
1-10 500mg/week testosterone
1-4 35mg/day dbol
12-14 clomid 150mg/day
15-16 clomid 50mg/day
12-16 nolvadex 40mg/day
And I am by no means a pro.........
Go ask alexxx I bet that tool will steer ya in the right direction. hehehehehe
^Running Clomid and Nolvadex together is pointless, they serve the same purpose for PCT.
I would go with HCG and Nolvadex.......drop the Clomid.
DIV
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OH by the way I have the HCG and Nolva dex, and I will take your advice Div........ The other was alot cheaper. Is test cyp a good one or what?
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OH by the way I have the HCG and Nolva dex, and I will take your advice Div........ The other was alot cheaper. Is test cyp a good one or what?
Any testosterone will do......
I prefer Sustanon, but that's just me.
DIV
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for a first cycle you are best off using a long acting testosterone- like Test E-
run it 12 weeks- 500 mg a week 2 shots one of mon and one on thursday-250mg a shot
Id say thats all you need for a newbie cycle- maybe throw in a mild oral like TBol or anavar- for the first 4 weeks- run either one at 50mgs a day along with the Test e. if you decide to push it 16 weeks- I think thats fine also- your first cycle is the one you will gain the most off of- so take advantage- if you feel good after 12 weeks and want to keep gaining- switch to a fast acting testosterone like propionate and run it 100mg everyday for 2-4 more weeks. I think if you ran Test cyp for 12 weeks with light dose of M1T for the first 4 weeks that would be fine also- I bet you blow up like crazy- i dont think I would recommend it first cycle- but it will work just have some arimidex or nolva on hand incase you get to much estrogen.
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I think if you ran Test cyp for 12 weeks with light dose of M1T for the first 4 weeks that would be fine also- I bet you blow up like crazy- i dont think I would recommend it first cycle- but it will work just have some arimidex or nolva on hand incase you get to much estrogen.
I'm not down with the fake supplements like M1T.
D-bol would be a better choice......
Yes, a long acting ester like Enanthate, Cypionate would be fine....
I should have specificed, but I didn't think the kid would be getting Prop.
He would be fine on Sustanon.
DIV
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do what ever you want. you wont listen anyways
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test e first cycle long ester sus you can use i recommend go with long ester cyp. or test e.
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do what ever you want. you wont listen anyways
What are you talking about! Do you think Im here to just run my own program? Im here to learn thats why I am asking the questions....BTW DIV Im not a kid! Put it this way I was in the Marine Corps during the first Gulf War! Just new to chemicals. Im thinking about going with cyp... Ive been lifting since my early teens just always natural.
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What are you talking about! Do you think Im here to just run my own program? Im here to learn thats why I am asking the questions....BTW DIV Im not a kid! Put it this way I was in the Marine Corps during the first Gulf War! Just new to chemicals. Im thinking about going with cyp... Ive been lifting since my early teens just always natural.
Dont just take cyp bro... your going to be sticking yourself so you may as well take some gear... take either sustanon or if you are going the cyp rout at least take andropen instead of cyp.
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What are you talking about! Do you think Im here to just run my own program? Im here to learn thats why I am asking the questions....BTW DIV Im not a kid! Put it this way I was in the Marine Corps during the first Gulf War! Just new to chemicals. Im thinking about going with cyp... Ive been lifting since my early teens just always natural.
and dont let DIV get to you .. he means no harm.... DIV just thinks everyone is a kid and he is the big grown papa moderator.
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I dont know Its a toss up It will be either cyp, or test e....
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I dont know Its a toss up It will be either cyp, or test e....
Cyp and test-e are identical…you won't notice any real difference with one over the other. Some claim that cyp causes you to hold less water, but this is just theory since there is no evidence to really back this claim up.
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do some research
test E and test cyp are the same thing,they do the same thing,they are both long acting.
get some test E or the cyp and go bust out some workouts.as far as sust 250
it's good but its not all that,as far as injecting sust every other day,thats a crock of shit. dont waist the gear, you can inject once a week. whoever injects every other day is just waisting there shit cause,I inject once a week and Im still eather have the same or better proggress then some one who does it every other day.
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I'm totally new to this AAS so here is my question to DIV...
I think I've said like most of the veterans that you need to keep it simple for a newbie cycle.
That means 12 weeks of Test.
How much muscle mass would you expect with this cycle?
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HCG - 5000iu amp & solution (Pregnyl)
3 x 5000 iu (plus solution)
Proviron - BD (British Dragon)
6 x 10 tabs (50mg)
Methanabol (10mg) (British Dragon)
1 x 100 tabs (10mg)
Testabol Depot 200 (British Dragon)
3 x 10 ml (200mg/ml)
Decabol 250 (British Dragon)
2 x 10 ml (250mg/ml)
Nolvadex (Sepapharm)
3 x box (30 x 20mg tabs)
This is pretty cheap, Or do you think I should just keep it simple and run 16 weeks test Cyp with 4 weeks M1T. This is my first cycle with AAS...
What a mess.......i feel bad for your body. :-\
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What a mess.......i feel bad for your body. :-\
Shadyadam I'm not taking that. I saw that as a package deal, and was just wondering if it was a good deal. Its set up as a novice cycle. I'm going to take everyones advice and just stick with the test. So don't worry sthweety everything will be OK with my body!
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Im hearing alot of different opinions between test E and cyp. How about a test 400 for a first cycle - Test 400, 400mg 10cc test Cypionaye 175mg, Test Enanthate 175mg, Test Prop 50mg... Would this be too much for a first cycle???
DIVISION what would you do for a first cycle? I know you said sust, but then some one said to go with a longer lasting test. Im not trying to be a pain just trying to make the best possible decision. Thanx Guys!
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Decision is made Im going with Test E... I will post my progress. Thanx for all of your help guys!
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your mass depends on what you put into it.
dude do your thing and not worry if you get approval from these guys!!!!
who gives a shit,you know how they learned,just like the rest of us they did research and tried shit on there own.
then they come on here and act like they graduated from steroid school.
do your thing and bust your ass to get to were you wanna be.
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your mass depends on what you put into it.
dude do your thing and not worry if you get approval from these guys!!!!
who gives a shit,you know how they learned,just like the rest of us they did research and tried shit on there own.
then they come on here and act like they graduated from steroid school.
do your thing and bust your ass to get to were you wanna be.
Ill take that advice! Thanx bro....
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What gauge pins should I use for this?
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22 guage 1 inch for the delts and thighs. 1 1/2 inch 22 guage for your ass. ;)
lol
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How about triceps, and Is that a good place?
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1 inch 22 guage
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I'm totally new to this AAS so here is my question to DIV...
I think I've said like most of the veterans that you need to keep it simple for a newbie cycle.
That means 12 weeks of Test.
How much muscle mass would you expect with this cycle?
That depends on his genetics, diet, training etc....
I have no clue how he'll respond.
I don't know him or train with him.
Im hearing alot of different opinions between test E and cyp. How about a test 400 for a first cycle - Test 400, 400mg 10cc test Cypionaye 175mg, Test Enanthate 175mg, Test Prop 50mg... Would this be too much for a first cycle???
DIVISION what would you do for a first cycle? I know you said sust, but then some one said to go with a longer lasting test. Im not trying to be a pain just trying to make the best possible decision. Thanx Guys!
You can do Test Enanthate, Cypionate or Sustanon.
I'd do the Sustanon since it's a blend and smoother....
12 weeks Sustanon @ 500-750MG ew.
That's fine.
When I say "kid" it's just a habit......I call everyone that.
Even my parents....
Picked it up in the Army.
DIV
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Again DIV youve come through with good info! Thanx!
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Should I be using HCG with this cycle of test E or just for PCT?
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use the HCG and protect your balls.. go do research on HPTA and its functions.....there is no reason not to run HCG on any cycle.... take the hcg at a low dose though like 250 iu....no more than 500iu
other benefits include a higher overall test level which in turn means better gains..... It is too inexpensive to not use it
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rightarm thanx john!