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Title: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Butterbean on May 22, 2006, 05:19:43 PM
I've already posted the way to heaven that is stated by the Christian bible, but many people have different beliefs.

Some people believe your good needs to outweigh your bad, etc.  Some believe you have to accomplish a certain number of "acts" set forth in your "religion."

One of my uncles told me once that he views God as a pillar of cloud next to a huge file cabinet.  When a person dies, the cloud removes their file from the filing cabinet and by reviewing how they lived their life, is granted a home in either heaven or hell.

I'd never heard anything quite like that. 

Anyone care to share?
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on May 22, 2006, 05:48:41 PM
I follow the philosphy that if you do good works, and not screw over people, you'll be fine.  If you try to improve your life and that of others then that is the way. 
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: haider on May 22, 2006, 10:22:25 PM
From the Quran

Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allâh and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .(Surah Al Baqarah, verse 62)
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Colossus_500 on May 23, 2006, 05:20:52 AM
From the Quran

Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allâh and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .(Surah Al Baqarah, verse 62)

Haider, why the distinction between those who believe vs. Jews, Christians, and Sabians?  Are "those who believe" Muslims?  Why are they placed of higher value than others? 
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: w8tlftr on May 23, 2006, 05:48:19 AM
A close friend once told me, the path to self discovery as Christians is through compassion and service to others.

It didn't make sense at the time but I eventually came around.

Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on May 23, 2006, 06:24:29 AM
somewhat quoting from Scent of a woman.


"between a womans legs lies the way"


..

sorry i couldn't help myself  :(
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2006, 09:05:49 AM
A close friend once told me, the path to self discovery as Christians is through compassion and service to others.


I agree.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: OzmO on May 23, 2006, 09:28:29 AM
Avoid the express way...  instead take the road less traveled, be careful of false detours and don't get discouraged when the road gets rough.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on May 23, 2006, 11:20:55 AM
somewhat quoting from Scent of a woman.


"between a womans legs lies the way"


..

sorry i couldn't help myself  :(

long live Pacinoism
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Always Sore on May 23, 2006, 11:28:39 AM
5 blocks past hell turn right go about a mile then bang heaven.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on May 23, 2006, 11:32:41 AM
which way is purgatory?  My GPS is on the fritz
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Always Sore on May 23, 2006, 11:35:47 AM
which way is purgatory?  My GPS is on the fritz

my house, purgatory all the same place...6 longitude and 66 latitude.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on May 23, 2006, 11:54:10 AM
my house, purgatory all the same place...6 longitude and 66 latitude.

ok whats for dinner
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Always Sore on May 23, 2006, 12:04:51 PM
ok whats for dinner

same thing every day its hell....cheeseburger french fries coke no pepsi.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on May 23, 2006, 12:41:23 PM
same thing every day its hell....cheeseburger french fries coke no pepsi.

dude thats awesome, i dont drink pepsi.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: YoMamaBeenLurking on May 23, 2006, 01:13:26 PM
Me neither, its missing something that coke has.  That little extra bite of sugar and caffeine.


Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on May 23, 2006, 01:23:42 PM
Me neither, its missing something that coke has.  That little extra bite of sugar and caffeine.




when i was in vegas, iwas dying for a coke.  many places serve pepsi.  Went to the Rio buffet and i asked for a coke, feeling sure that i would get rejected ( no jokes), and to my delight she saidd yes.  It was the best coke i have had
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on May 23, 2006, 02:27:42 PM
long live Pacinoism

Actually, ...that's Taoism.  ;)
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on May 23, 2006, 02:32:58 PM
Actually, ...that's Taoism.  ;)

or perhaps Tongueism
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on May 23, 2006, 02:36:09 PM
Some people say the way to heaven is a truly great orgasm.

...I s'pose that's why people scream "Oh God!" when it happens.  :D
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Always Sore on May 23, 2006, 03:56:00 PM
Some people say the way to heaven is a truly great orgasm.

...I s'pose that's why people scream "Oh God!" when it happens.  :D

if your doing it right its "oh god, im cumming again" :o
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: w8tlftr on May 23, 2006, 06:44:00 PM
Some people say the way to heaven is a truly great orgasm.

...I s'pose that's why people scream "Oh God!" when it happens.  :D

If you're an atheist and have a great orgasm who do you shout out to?

Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: alexxx on May 23, 2006, 07:13:30 PM
If you're an atheist and have a great orgasm who do you shout out to?



Derek Anthony. :-X
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: sugarbear on May 23, 2006, 08:04:33 PM
your beliefs are weak minded
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: alexxx on May 23, 2006, 08:05:34 PM
your beliefs are weak minded

Takes strength to have faith.  ;)
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: w8tlftr on May 24, 2006, 10:18:46 AM
your beliefs are weak minded

Hi, Johnny.

Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Unknown8471 on May 29, 2006, 01:30:13 AM
The way to hevon is to be kined, honest, talrent of otheres, loveing, and selfles.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: blondmusclhunk on June 07, 2006, 01:29:50 PM
The basic thing is to Love one another as you love yourself. 
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on July 08, 2006, 05:26:10 PM
I think we first have to establish what "Heaven" is before we can figure out a way to get there.

Is it a place, a dimension, or a state? (...and I don't mean Hawaii, ...although it could be considered close)

discuss...
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Dos Equis on July 08, 2006, 06:53:32 PM
I think we first have to establish what "Heaven" is before we can figure out a way to get there.

Is it a place, a dimension, or a state? (...and I don't mean Hawaii, ...although it could be considered close)

discuss...

But Hawaii is paradise.   :)
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on July 08, 2006, 11:34:20 PM
But Hawaii is paradise.   :)

...wait til the tsunamis come ashore, and the volcanoes all go off simultaneously.
You'll be screaming for mainland in a heartbeat. {giggle} 
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on July 08, 2006, 11:36:31 PM
The basic thing is to Love one another as you love yourself. 

I can see it now, ...a massive increase in the number of people wearing the label slut.  :P
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Dos Equis on July 09, 2006, 12:54:29 AM
...wait til the tsunamis come ashore, and the volcanoes all go off simultaneously.
You'll be screaming for mainland in a heartbeat. {giggle} 

I don't own beachfront property . . . yet, so tsunamis won't affect me or my property.  The only volcano on Oahu (Diamond Head) is extinct.  I've hiked it many times.   :)  Kilauea (on the Big Island) is active, but it's separated between me and the ocean (but I have seen it up close and personal . . . amazing site).  Next! 

Hurricanes maybe.  But I'll take hurricanes over tornadoes, hail storms, and earthquakes.  AND I'll enjoy paradise in the meantime till I'm wiped out by a hurricane.   ;D 
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Butterbean on July 09, 2006, 07:10:14 AM
I don't own beachfront property . . . yet, so tsunamis won't affect me or my property.  The only volcano on Oahu (Diamond Head) is extinct.  I've hiked it many times.   :)  Kilauea (on the Big Island) is active, but it's separated between me and the ocean (but I have seen it up close and personal . . . amazing site).  Next! 

Hurricanes maybe.  But I'll take hurricanes over tornadoes, hail storms, and earthquakes.  AND I'll enjoy paradise in the meantime till I'm wiped out by a hurricane.   ;D 


I got married on Maui.  It was purty ;D

The lady that helped us w/our marriage license kept asking us if we were from the church "Jesus Coming Soon."

We didn't know what she was talking about until later when we actually saw the church and the "Jesus Coming Soon" sign outside.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Dos Equis on July 09, 2006, 10:24:00 AM
I got married on Maui.  It was purty ;D

The lady that helped us w/our marriage license kept asking us if we were from the church "Jesus Coming Soon."

We didn't know what she was talking about until later when we actually saw the church and the "Jesus Coming Soon" sign outside.

Lucky you.   :)  Maui is beautiful.  I go there a couple times a month for business.  Always try and stop at Krispy Kremes and grab a box of donuts for the kiddies.   :)
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Hedgehog on July 10, 2006, 09:43:00 AM
I've already posted the way to heaven that is stated by the Christian bible, but many people have different beliefs.

Some people believe your good needs to outweigh your bad, etc.  Some believe you have to accomplish a certain number of "acts" set forth in your "religion."

One of my uncles told me once that he views God as a pillar of cloud next to a huge file cabinet.  When a person dies, the cloud removes their file from the filing cabinet and by reviewing how they lived their life, is granted a home in either heaven or hell.

I'd never heard anything quite like that. 

Anyone care to share?

What do we know?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Butterbean on July 10, 2006, 10:22:47 AM
What do we know?

YIP
Zack

I believe that the bible is true (a big reason being fulfilled prophecy) and I think if you'd read it w/an open mind you'd end up agreeing.

Like you said (sort of) somewhere earlier if there is a "true religion," you'd want to believe that one.  It's up to you to investigate them and either accept or dismiss them.

Zack, would you consider yourself an "agnostic?"

Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Hedgehog on July 10, 2006, 10:30:25 AM
I believe that the bible is true (a big reason being fulfilled prophecy) and I think if you'd read it w/an open mind you'd end up agreeing.

Like you said (sort of) somewhere earlier if there is a "true religion," you'd want to believe that one.  It's up to you to investigate them and either accept or dismiss them.

Zack, would you consider yourself an "agnostic?"



No STella.

I am not an Agnostic.

However, at around age 12-14 I considered myself an Agnostic.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on July 14, 2006, 05:26:57 PM
Lucky you.   :)  Maui is beautiful.  I go there a couple times a month for business.  Always try and stop at Krispy Kremes and grab a box of donuts for the kiddies.   :)

For the kiddies? ...sha right! {giggle} When I go to Krispy Kreme, the donuts I get are for my kids too.  ;)

Don't worry my lips are sealed.  I won't tell a soul... if you give me some donuts.   :P    ;D
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Dos Equis on July 15, 2006, 12:24:21 AM
For the kiddies? ...sha right! {giggle} When I go to Krispy Kreme, the donuts I get are for my kids too.  ;)

Don't worry my lips are sealed.  I won't tell a soul... if you give me some donuts.   :P    ;D

Place your order.   :)
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on July 15, 2006, 12:06:25 PM
Place your order.   :)

I'm not picky, ...at least not when it comes to Krispy Kreme donuts. Just send me what you will.  :)
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Migs on July 15, 2006, 06:40:31 PM
mmm, donuts
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: OzmO on July 15, 2006, 09:57:59 PM
I'm not picky, ...at least not when it comes to Krispy Kreme donuts. Just send me what you will.  :)

Krispy Kreme's are Satan's spawn
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: 24KT on July 16, 2006, 04:50:07 PM
I thought those were Johnny Apollo and GW?
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Martin1981 on July 23, 2006, 12:54:54 AM
Takes strength to have faith.  ;)

No it doesn't.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Dos Equis on July 23, 2006, 02:08:58 AM
No it doesn't.

Yes it does.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Lord Humungous on July 24, 2006, 04:20:26 AM
A close friend once told me, the path to self discovery as Christians is through compassion and service to others.

It didn't make sense at the time but I eventually came around.



I believe this, if its done for the glory of God and not for humanity. The Bible tells us that our earthly deeds are like wheat that is burnt by fire.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Martin1981 on July 27, 2006, 03:16:01 AM
The Bible tells us that our earthly deeds are like wheat that is burnt by fire.

You should try and read Nietzsche.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Lord Humungous on July 27, 2006, 06:48:22 AM
You should try and read Nietzsche.

Whats that Martin?
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Martin1981 on July 29, 2006, 07:02:05 PM
Whats that Martin?

Friedrich Nietzsche is a late 19th century philosopher, whose philosophy stands as the culmination of modern european thinking.
Really interesting reading, and quite enlightening I might add.  Though I wouldn't recommend you read his texts (since it's quite difficult to interpret if you don't have a philosophy grounding), but rather read other philosophers (sp?) that have analysed his work and thinking, like Gianni Vattimo or Katja Galimberti (don't know if there are english versions of their work though).
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Butterbean on July 29, 2006, 07:42:41 PM
Didn't Nietzsche say...."all great things must first wear terrifying and monstrous masks in order to inscribe themselves on the hearts of humanity?"

I tells ya, I don't agree.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: w8tlftr on July 29, 2006, 09:12:44 PM
Didn't Nietzsche say...."all great things must first wear terrifying and monstrous masks in order to inscribe themselves on the hearts of humanity?"

I tells ya, I don't agree.

You mean like the Batman?  ???

Interesting.

Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: Martin1981 on July 31, 2006, 01:53:57 AM
Didn't Nietzsche say...."all great things must first wear terrifying and monstrous masks in order to inscribe themselves on the hearts of humanity?"

I tells ya, I don't agree.

If you don't agree with a philosopher's thinking based on a single phrase, then you're not on the right track...  However, I guess it's impossible for any kind of religious person to agree with Nietzsche.  Only an existencialist could agree with Nietzsche.
Title: Re: What do you believe is "the way" to heaven?
Post by: OzmO on July 31, 2006, 11:18:09 AM
If you don't agree with a philosopher's thinking based on a single phrase, then you're not on the right track...  However, I guess it's impossible for any kind of religious person to agree with Nietzsche.  Only an existencialist could agree with Nietzsche.

Didn't he say something to the effect what ever doesn't kill us makes us better?  I believe in that.