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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 23, 2006, 05:25:23 PM
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They are reporting on another board that 90's super freak Ed Kawak was found dead in China of a heart attack.
R.I.P. ED
The Beef
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If this is true R.I.P
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who r they?
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sad, rip
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dude was thick...RIP
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RIP. :(
The guy could not have been more than 45.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1988/211.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1988/209.jpg)
Easly in his 50's, but reguardless, RIP!
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RIP. :(
The guy could not have been more than 45.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1988/211.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1988/209.jpg)
So is it safe to say that consistant use of steroids will likely edge 30+ years off your life?
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nice Richard Simmons hairdoo :P guy looks better than half the pros today. RIP
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FUCK! If this is true, what a shame.
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In all the way big dude RIP
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:(
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the man had crazy arms.
RIP :'(
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I saw his posing routine in a contest on ESPN back in 1986. His quads were huge. His whole physique was awesome. Never heard much of him after that.
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That's a shame. Kawak was a popular bodybuilder in the 80's and one of the few guys who could challenge Haney in the mass department.
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Advil is a helluva drug!
Are you suggesting his death may have been advil related or that advil could have helped to prevent it or something else?
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Well, it seems former pros are kicking it at very young ages right and left lately.
Of course, it's never the result of the excesses of the pro bodybuilding lifestyle that killed them! *wink, wink*
It's usually something like "Advil", as in: "My kidneys aren't failing due to years of steroid abuse, combined with whatever home-brewed diuretic The Chad has me using, it's because of Advil. I almost died for you bittches!"
Tom Prince obviously abused a lot of different types of drugs but the ones most likely to have caused his health problems would be advil based on the kidney damage. I think some rec drugs are toxic to the kidneys as well but I don't know.
Let's not forget diuretics.
As for Kawak and roids - bear in mind this guy ate upwards of 10,000 calories a day. He was also an animal in the gym using heavy weights which also isn't exactly heart healthy. And lastly let's not forget genetics. My cousin's husband died at the age of 35 from a heart attack and never touched a roid in his life. He was a cig smoker and probably could have stood to drop 30 or 50 pounds, but you know that just has to be genetic.
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Well, it seems former pros are kicking it at very young ages right and left lately.
Of course, it's never the result of the excesses of the pro bodybuilding lifestyle that killed them! *wink, wink*
It's usually something like "Advil", as in: "My kidneys aren't failing due to years of steroid abuse, combined with whatever home-brewed diuretic The Chad has me using, it's because of Advil. I almost died for you bittches!"
The Advil excuse... I love it.
I heard a theory about BB'ers and the relation to gear. It goes something along the shores of The Nile. 8)
People tend to downplay the effect the gear has on their physiques on all levels, and it also causes them to deny that it could be dangerous in the long run.
But seriously... How many other "sports" are having deaths on elite level competitors at such young age, related to kidney and heart problems?
It's either Advil or "hereditary, runs in the family".
Nevertheless, it's always sad to hear about a human leaving to early. I hope his family will be ok.
Zack
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I would guess all of them. We only pay attention for bodybuilding because we want to use steroids as an excuse. Makes us feel more in control of death to blame an external factor like steroids. People die.
Yes , but on a % basis bodybuilding seems pretty high overall. Plus, unlike the NFL or boxing, bodybuilding should be pretty safe and free from risks...but we know different.
At 47 seeing so man guys I saw over the years dropping around my age or even younger freaks me out.
One factor could a lack of health ins or reg check ups for early detection of problems.?????
Oh well, I just wish the Kawak family some peace at this troubled time.
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Tom Prince obviously abused a lot of different types of drugs but the ones most likely to have caused his health problems would be advil based on the kidney damage. I think some rec drugs are toxic to the kidneys as well but I don't know.
Let's not forget diuretics.
As for Kawak and roids - bear in mind this guy ate upwards of 10,000 calories a day. He was also an animal in the gym using heavy weights which also isn't exactly heart healthy. And lastly let's not forget genetics. My cousin's husband died at the age of 35 from a heart attack and never touched a roid in his life. He was a cig smoker and probably could have stood to drop 30 or 50 pounds, but you know that just has to be genetic.
Heavy weights aren't "unhealthy" for the heart. ::)
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So is it safe to say that consistant use of steroids will likely edge 30+ years off your life?
average age of death i believe is 72....However heart disease being the #1 killer in both men and women, most won't come close to the average death number...a heart attack in your 50s is becoming the norm...
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Has this death been confirmed? What's the cause?
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people in their 40's-50's drop dead eevry day so you can't say drugs are to blame
RIP
E
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But seriously... How many other "sports" are having deaths on elite level competitors at such young age, related to kidney and heart problems?
football
E
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First off heavy lifting is not unhealthy for the heart. I question if the man ate 10,000 calorie diet that is a bit extreme and of course not healthy but heavy lifting is healthy, we cannot forget the fact that the human body was designed for movement. Ed Kawak was a great bodybuilder and will be missed. RIP iron warrior.
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people in their 40's-50's drop dead eevry day so you can't say drugs are to blame
RIP
E
Are you just playing devil's advocate here? Surely you know better.
Look at the number of pro BBers dying in their 30's, 40's and 50's. Then look at them as a percentage of all pro BBers since the advent of the steroid era. Then compare that percentage to the statistics in the overall population. I'm sure you'll find these deaths are way above, say, the national average in the US.
Anyway, we don't know any of the details surrounding Ed's death and my condolences to out to the loved ones he left behind. RIP.
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Are you just playing devil's advocate here? Surely you know better.
Look at the number of pro BBers dying in their 30's, 40's and 50's. Then look at them as a percentage of all pro BBers since the advent of the steroid era. Then compare that percentage to the statistics in the overall population. I'm sure you'll find these deaths are way above, say, the national average in the US.
lol why did you edit out you calling me stupid?
not many bodybuilders died from NATURAL CAUSES in their 30's, 40's, 50's
Read your local newspaper every day I see multiple people dying from natural causes at young ages it's not as rare as some of you like to think. I'm not saying the drugs had nothing to do with it but you can't just automatically jump to the conclusion that the drugs did it.
Army head coach Maggie Dixon dropped dead from a heart arythmia at 28 and she was in great shape
E
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lol why did you edit out you calling me stupid?
LOL. I felt bad and decided to give you the benefit of the doubt. :)
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Are you just playing devil's advocate here? Surely you know better.
Look at the number of pro BBers dying in their 30's, 40's and 50's. Then look at them as a percentage of all pro BBers since the advent of the steroid era. Then compare that percentage to the statistics in the overall population. I'm sure you'll find these deaths are way above, say, the national average in the US.
Anyway, we don't know any of the details surrounding Ed's death and my condolences to out to the loved ones he left behind. RIP.
Pro bodybuiders are no different then any other fat guy when talking about the weight the heart reads...If a pro is 5'8 and gets up to 260 pounds or more in the offseason...The heart reads that as a pretty fat bastard...The percentage of regular guys in the world at 5'8 that are 260 and over and died pretty young has to be off the charts compared to bodybuilders...
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He died way too young. Serious muscle. Hope it's just a rumour and he's still alive.
R.I.P.
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Heavy weights aren't "unhealthy" for the heart. ::)
Really. How do you think your blood pressure' doing at the bottom of a heavy squat or leg press? Compile that by thousands of heavy works along with having an altered cholesterol panel from hormones that lean in the "unfavorable" area... need I say more.
The Advil excuse... I love it.
I heard a theory about BB'ers and the relation to gear. It goes something along the shores of The Nile. 8)
People tend to downplay the effect the gear has on their physiques on all levels, and it also causes them to deny that it could be dangerous in the long run.
But seriously... How many other "sports" are having deaths on elite level competitors at such young age, related to kidney and heart problems?
It's either Advil or "hereditary, runs in the family".
Nevertheless, it's always sad to hear about a human leaving to early. I hope his family will be ok.
Zack
Advil is very kidney toxic after prolonged, heavy usage... Its actually worse on the kidney's than on the liver. The "Advil Excuse" isnt really all that much of an excuse and holds more truth than what people are giving credit for.
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Really. How do you think your blood pressure' doing at the bottom of a heavy squat or leg press? Compile that by thousands of heavy works along with having an altered cholesterol panel from hormones that lean in the "unfavorable" area... need I say more.
WRONG! Blood pressure can increase dramatically while lifting, but it only lasts for a short time. Many studies have shown that weight training actually reduces blood pressure.
Runners also experience high blood pressure while training, and they train much longer than bodybuilders. Nevertheless, it is well known that running decreases blood pressure, and for the same reasons that weight training decreases blood pressure.
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WRONG! Blood pressure can increase dramatically while lifting, but it only lasts for a short time. Many studies have shown that weight training actually reduces blood pressure.
Runners also experience high blood pressure while training, and they train much longer than bodybuilders. Nevertheless, it is well known that running decreases blood pressure, and for the same reasons that weight training decreases blood pressure.
you're right here.. its only "bad" if you genetically or naturally have high blood pressure - it being a risk reaching those high levels of blood pressure.
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RIP Kawak. BB will miss that hairdoo.
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Sad, sad, sad if it`s true.
This man was a winner of the NABBA Mister Univers for many years. In 1982 and 83 he won the professional Univers Title.
In 1982 he also won the Wabba Mr World after winning the amateur WABBA Mister World title in 1980.
He later had success as a pro in the IFBB. In 1987 he took forth at the Pro-World, the later called Arnold Classic.
Remember in that years the small bodybuilders <5,8 weighed aroun 200 punds, today at the same heigt they weigh at least 20 pounds more.
R.I.P Ed Kawak :-[
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http://bodybuilding.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=96&start=30
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huh?
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kawak...
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I was reading an article on MSNBC yesterday about people in their twenty's...the article was actually about the financial state that people in their twenty's are in. It had all kinds of info..including the life expectancy of people in their twenty's: 54 I always read the RIP Joe Sombody treads on here where somebody in their 40s-50's dies of a heart attack and everybody starts in with the....oh steroids...advil strikes again...and shit like that. Seriously If these guys were doing what they love doing and ended up dying mid-forties or whatever so fucking what. Everybody dies, but very few people ever live! If you die doing something you love then more fucking power to you....better than dying in a nursing home after living a life as a fat ass nobody that spends their entire life stressing over their mortgage and hating their fat ass wife (75% of America) Think of you life as a book....your writing the story with everything you do and everything you say. When your book is complete...would anybody want to read it...is your life interesting or exciting...or do you just fall in line and eventually die? My two cents...
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http://bodybuilding.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=96&start=30
Oh yeah thanks, that really helped :-\!!
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Back when I first got into bodybuilding Kawak was one of my favorites. He had every bodypart, gigantic legs, great calves, awsome arms..you name it he had it. He looked awsome at the Pro World the year Love won, I think it was 87 and he placed top 10 at the O a couple of times. If you buy any of Robert Kennedy's books from the early 80's Kawak is all over the place in those...
He was great, what a shame he had to die so young....
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what the hell was he doing in china? that place is gross
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More recent pic. Everyone needs to stop speculating. People die everday of heart attacks, even in their twenties. Life goes on for the rest. He was a great bodybuilder, let's remember that.
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Would you like me to cite some scientific evidence proving otherwise?
Come on Matt. You are a smart guy. Any kind of strenuous exercize is good for both the heart and lungs. Being sedentary is what will eventually kill you.
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what the hell was he doing in china? that place is gross
Not bad in some places, but overall pretty damm bad. Aberdeen is nice and that side of Hong Kong. I traveled throughout South China for a month. I based myself in Kowloon. I was heading up to Bejing when I decided I couldn't stand the place anymore. I made it as far north as Guangzhou and had to turn around. I couldn't wait to get back to Hawaii.
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I was reading an article on MSNBC yesterday about people in their twenty's...the article was actually about the financial state that people in their twenty's are in. It had all kinds of info..including the life expectancy of people in their twenty's: 54 I always read the RIP Joe Sombody treads on here where somebody in their 40s-50's dies of a heart attack and everybody starts in with the....oh steroids...advil strikes again...and shit like that. Seriously If these guys were doing what they love doing and ended up dying mid-forties or whatever so fucking what. Everybody dies, but very few people ever live! If you die doing something you love then more fucking power to you....better than dying in a nursing home after living a life as a fat ass nobody that spends their entire life stressing over their mortgage and hating their fat ass wife (75% of America) Think of you life as a book....your writing the story with everything you do and everything you say. When your book is complete...would anybody want to read it...is your life interesting or exciting...or do you just fall in line and eventually die? My two cents...
What an incredibly shallow and idiotic post. Nobody EVER wants to die when they're 45 years old, even if it means watching their wife grow old or living in a nursing home. ::)
Bodybuilders are NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. You are not a superior or enlightened person because you compete in bodybuilding contests. The notion that bodybuilders are more "interesting or exciting" than people who raise families and make a living in the real world is simply laughable. To most people, you are just a self-absorbed bum who hangs around the gym all day and takes steroids.
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What an incredibly shallow and idiotic post. Nobody EVER wants to die when they're 45 years old, even if it means watching their wife grow old or living in a nursing home. ::)
Bodybuilders are NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. You are not a superior or enlightened person because you compete in bodybuilding contests. The notion that bodybuilders are more "interesting or exciting" than people who raise families and make a living in the real world is simply laughable. To most people, you are just a self-absorbed bum who hangs around the gym all day and takes steroids.
damn we actually agree on something, go figure.
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This much is true, but Eduardo was not your typical bodybuilder. Tom Platz said he would personally witness him eat as much as 10,000 calories in a day and people would ask Tom how it was that he only ate a fraction of that (I believe Tom cited 3,000-4,000).
I am talking purely the exercize aspect. Not food, steroids etc.. The hard work is good for the heart, lungs and respiratory and vascular system.
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rip,i remember him well from the 80,s scene,he was pretty good imo
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Respect Eduardo - R.I.P. :'(
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RIP
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WRONG! Blood pressure can increase dramatically while lifting, but it only lasts for a short time. Many studies have shown that weight training actually reduces blood pressure.
Runners also experience high blood pressure while training, and they train much longer than bodybuilders. Nevertheless, it is well known that running decreases blood pressure, and for the same reasons that weight training decreases blood pressure.
That acute increase in blood pressure can lead to death.
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Garlic pills save lives..
Not vampires' lives :-\ Who was that trainer guy that died while lifting a little while back? His name was Mel.
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great Physique. May Peace Be Upon Him.
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That first upper body pic where he pulls of a fron DB is great. RIP ripped dude.
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goat and your unfounded statements.....the mans dead you dont know him give your respect and stop being so rhetorical. or at least something new.
Rest In Peace Kawak.
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Kawak had some of the thickest abs around....RIP Kawak
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I was reading an article on MSNBC yesterday about people in their twenty's...the article was actually about the financial state that people in their twenty's are in. It had all kinds of info..including the life expectancy of people in their twenty's: 54 I always read the RIP Joe Sombody treads on here where somebody in their 40s-50's dies of a heart attack and everybody starts in with the....oh steroids...advil strikes again...and shit like that. Seriously If these guys were doing what they love doing and ended up dying mid-forties or whatever so fucking what. Everybody dies, but very few people ever live! If you die doing something you love then more fucking power to you....better than dying in a nursing home after living a life as a fat ass nobody that spends their entire life stressing over their mortgage and hating their fat ass wife (75% of America) Think of you life as a book....your writing the story with everything you do and everything you say. When your book is complete...would anybody want to read it...is your life interesting or exciting...or do you just fall in line and eventually die? My two cents...
Well said,
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What an incredibly shallow and idiotic post. Nobody EVER wants to die when they're 45 years old, even if it means watching their wife grow old or living in a nursing home. ::)
Bodybuilders are NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. You are not a superior or enlightened person because you compete in bodybuilding contests. The notion that bodybuilders are more "interesting or exciting" than people who raise families and make a living in the real world is simply laughable. To most people, you are just a self-absorbed bum who hangs around the gym all day and takes steroids.
And what would that make you, your not even a bodybuilder and your on here a bodybuilding website, i bet you live to a hundred,
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Really. How do you think your blood pressure' doing at the bottom of a heavy squat or leg press? Compile that by thousands of heavy works along with having an altered cholesterol panel from hormones that lean in the "unfavorable" area... need I say more.
Advil is very kidney toxic after prolonged, heavy usage... Its actually worse on the kidney's than on the liver. The "Advil Excuse" isnt really all that much of an excuse and holds more truth than what people are giving credit for.
Heavy weights is just good for the heart, because heart is a muscle and it get benefits from the workout like every other muscle, but only IF YOU ARE DRUG FREE. If you are taking GH and all the shit what BB:ers do take, your heart will grow not stronger, but bigger in size, which leads to the failure sooner or later. Big and thick heart can't pump blood efficiently which leads insufficient circulation in heart, and bang. You are dead. It is so simple. That's why BB:ers die heart conditions in very young age. If you look Ronnie or any really big guy, how much blood you think there is in circulation? Average dude have about 5 litres, but those monsters have 7-8 litres which means that you need to pump so much harder to get all that to circulation = heart must be bigger or pump faster = more work = shorter lifespan = dude die younger.
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Rest In Peace Champ. :'(
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Il y a pas mal de problème à résoudre pour les formalités douanières, et ce n'est pas sans poser de gros tracas... En effet, Edouard était naturalisé français, et ne possédait plus de passeport Libanais... Ce qui fait que les autorités Libanaises se font tirer l'oreille pour qu'il rentre chez lui...
Même mort, la bureaucratie nous emmerde la vie... C'est triste... Et affligeant de savoir qu'il ne repose pas encore en paix, et traine dans une morgue à Pekin...
This is somewhat confusing to translate but it looks like it says he lost his passport for "Liban" (french for Lebanon I'm pretty sure), but the last sentence looks like it says he's being held in a morgue in Pekin (China).
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Translation/
There are quite a lot problems that need to be addressed as far as customs paperworks are concerned, and this is causing a lot of troubles. Indeed, Edward was a naturalized french citizen, and he did not have a lebanese passport anymore. The lebanese authorities are therefore making it difficult, and he is having troubles coming back to his country of birth for burial. Even in death bureaucratic red tape is a pain. This is sad, and he does not rest in peace yet, and that his body is still held in a morgue in Beijing.
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Rest In Peace Champ. :'(
Man, this sucks. RIP.
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Kawak was always one of my favorite bodybuilders, I remember him being in phenominal shape back in 88 and definately being overlooked. It's a shame that his burial is being delayed because of BS. May he find more justice in death than he did in life.
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Thanks GhostWriter.
So he is in China and they want to bring him to Lebanon for burial but he was a citizen of France so he lost his passport to Lebanon? ???
It is pretty simple, many countries does not allow dual citizenship. Since he became french by naturalization, it seems that he has lost his lebanese passport, but not litterally like misplaced, lost his lebanese passport as in lebanese citizenship. Even if he was born there, he is basically a foreigner in their eyes now, and as such, his family cannot just decide to bring in their for burial. Issues might relate to this, hence he is still stuck in China.
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Here's the best I can do for now:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/eduardokawak
I'll have to write up a tribute for him soon.
A shame you had to rely on the 87 Olympia when he had straightened his fantastic hair. He looked his best at the 87 Pro world and should have probably won it. He was good at the 88 Olympia but only came 16th - a strange one that.
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Damn!
This guy was good in the day.
Haven't seen Ron chime in yet & confirm this.
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I'll have to write up a tribute for him soon.
it would help to figure out his preferred spelling. Eduardo is not exactly Lebanese. I think Edouard is the correct spelling.
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Anyone notice how OLD he looked in that recent pic? He looked more like 67 instead of 47.
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Very ironic that somebody posted "The Dead Pool, Who's Next" just a few days ago. RIP Ed :'(
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Kawak had an incredibly thick and wide back with tons of muscle on his frame. He did have a huge waist which means he would have done much better in the 90's and today than he did in the 80's.
Special "Orlando" Ed
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RIP :(
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Tom Prince obviously abused a lot of different types of drugs but the ones most likely to have caused his health problems would be advil based on the kidney damage. I think some rec drugs are toxic to the kidneys as well but I don't know.
Let's not forget diuretics.
Exactly. In those 2 FLEX articles that everyone refers to the doctor focused on the ridiculous amount of Advil Prince was taking, but Prince said he blamed ALL the drugs. People on the boards always say the Advil was "an excuse" for Prince not owning up to all the non-over-the-counter drugs he was doing. In fact, he spelled it all out pretty clearly. He didn't talk much about rec drugs then, but he certainly talked openly about the bodybuilding drugs.
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GREAT BACK AND ABS!
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Terrible news.
I knew Edoardo very well as a teenager.
He would come visit the gym I was training at in Rome in th early '80s.
We were all in awe of the guy. Especially since his FIRST contest was the WABBA World Championship that he won hands down.
I've never heard of that happening since.
He also made an appearance practically for free at my expo in Rome in '03
RIP
Alex
www.alexardenti.com
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very sad... did he have a wife & kids?
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very sad... did he have a wife & kids?
no, he had a partner, pets, loving supportive friends and a family who loved and respected him without conditions.
RIP
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RIP.
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What an incredibly shallow and idiotic post. Nobody EVER wants to die when they're 45 years old, even if it means watching their wife grow old or living in a nursing home. ::)
Bodybuilders are NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. You are not a superior or enlightened person because you compete in bodybuilding contests. The notion that bodybuilders are more "interesting or exciting" than people who raise families and make a living in the real world is simply laughable. To most people, you are just a self-absorbed bum who hangs around the gym all day and takes steroids.
oh lord, what an ownage of biblical proportions.
NPCOCKS, just keep injecting and tell yourself things like these to make you feel better about being a small sad and frustrated man.
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Partner? He was gay?
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Posté le: Lun 29 Mai à 22:36
Bonjour à tous, je me présente je suis la fille d'Edouard KAWAK, Cindy...
...je tiens à dire que bien évidement cet évènement m'a bouleversé moi aussi...
c'était en effet un sportif admirable, une personne très appréciée, un ami pour beaucoup mais avant tout un père...un papa que j'aime même si je ne lui est peut-être pas assez dit...qui va énormément me manquer...et à qui je pense beaucoup...
En ce qui me concerne, je ne suis donc pas contre cet hommage, bien au contraire ! Et je pense que le reste de la famille sera du même avis...mais il faut malgré tout demander l'autorisation de la personne qui pourra sans doute le plus répondre a vos questions : mon tonton, son frère, Joseph KAWAK qui est actuellement au Liban...
Ça me touche de voir que vous êtes nombreux à penser à lui et à ne pas l'oublier...Merci...
Edit de GG: J'ai supprimé les n° de téléphone que donne Cindy, par mesure de sécurité et de discrétion.
Can somebody translate this?
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RIP
Best Abs in bodybuilding history IMO
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And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment - Hebrews 9:27 (KJV)
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RIP
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Eduardo's daughter started off by saying that he was a great champion and also a wonderful person and father and someone who she will greatly miss.
She says she is not against the homage to Eduardo, and quite the opposite in fact. She feels the remainder of her family will be of the same opinion. She says her uncle Joseph Kawak is in a better position to answer questions about her father than she is. Joseph currently lives in Lebanon. She says she is touched by the fact that so many people are thinking of Eduardo during this time and not forgetting him.
The owner of the website edited Cindy's post to remove her telephone number which she included with it, stating that he did not want to see it get into the wrong hands.
Matt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you speak french ?
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Cool !
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I would guess all of them. We only pay attention for bodybuilding because we want to use steroids as an excuse. Makes us feel more in control of death to blame an external factor like steroids. People die.
Here in Brazil a professional soccer player died of a heart attack while playing.
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Very sad to hear that Ed has passed away, I only just found out today...20th November 2008.
A bit out of touch.
The first time I heard of Ed was around 1986/7,when he was on the front cover of a UK Professional Bodybuilding Mag.On the cover he was in Commando clothing,holding an AK assault rifle, but his flies were the wrong way round.I noted it to the editor....who said....Are you gonna tell him then ? Sad, very sad to hear the news.
Darnalldavid
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Very sad to hear that Ed has passed away, I only just found out today...20th November 2008.
A bit out of touch.
The first time I heard of Ed was around 1986/7,when he was on the front cover of a UK Professional Bodybuilding Mag.On the cover he was in Commando clothing,holding an AK assault rifle, but his flies were the wrong way round.I noted it to the editor....who said....Are you gonna tell him then ? Sad, very sad to hear the news.
Darnalldavid
Don't bump shit like this you fucking joke.
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RIP
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was this online at BB.com too ?
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Don't bump shit like this you fucking joke.
agreed fuck off back into your hole the mans dead. Let him rest in peace.
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The death toll is racking up!
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holy shit, Ed is STILL dead?
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Was just watching his routine at the '88 Mr. Olympia the other day. Incrediblly peaked biceps.
P.I.P.
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This is very sad to hear, if its true.
Ed was an outstanding body builder, and an icon of his era.
RIP Mr Kawak and my sympathies to his family and friends.
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Tom Prince obviously abused a lot of different types of drugs but the ones most likely to have caused his health problems would be advil based on the kidney damage. I think some rec drugs are toxic to the kidneys as well but I don't know.
Let's not forget diuretics.
As for Kawak and roids - bear in mind this guy ate upwards of 10,000 calories a day. He was also an animal in the gym using heavy weights which also isn't exactly heart healthy. And lastly let's not forget genetics. My cousin's husband died at the age of 35 from a heart attack and never touched a roid in his life. He was a cig smoker and probably could have stood to drop 30 or 50 pounds, but you know that just has to be genetic.
explain why heavy weight training is not good for the heart.
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it is 2008 right :-\
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it is 2008 right :-\
I know and I can't beleive Ed is still dead. :'(
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I know and I can't beleive Ed is still dead. :'(
He's going to be that way for awhile...
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He's going to be that way for awhile...
Stop saying that
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Posté le: Lun 29 Mai à 22:36
Bonjour à tous, je me présente je suis la fille d'Edouard KAWAK, Cindy...
...je tiens à dire que bien évidement cet évènement m'a bouleversé moi aussi...
c'était en effet un sportif admirable, une personne très appréciée, un ami pour beaucoup mais avant tout un père...un papa que j'aime même si je ne lui est peut-être pas assez dit...qui va énormément me manquer...et à qui je pense beaucoup...
En ce qui me concerne, je ne suis donc pas contre cet hommage, bien au contraire ! Et je pense que le reste de la famille sera du même avis...mais il faut malgré tout demander l'autorisation de la personne qui pourra sans doute le plus répondre a vos questions : mon tonton, son frère, Joseph KAWAK qui est actuellement au Liban...
Ça me touche de voir que vous êtes nombreux à penser à lui et à ne pas l'oublier...Merci...
Edit de GG: J'ai supprimé les n° de téléphone que donne Cindy, par mesure de sécurité et de discrétion.
Can somebody translate this?
This has really thrown me in a huge way. He was obviously a great athlete, a person who was appreciated by so many individuals, a friend to many but above all a father, a father whom I probably loved more than I actually ever told him, whom I miss terribly and who I think about all the time.
I am pleased with all the recognition you are communicating on this Board, and I am sure that the rest of my family shares this thought. But to give you more detail, we would need the authorization of the person who would best be able to respond to your questions: his brother Joseph Kawak who is at present in Lebanon.
Thank you so much for thinking of him.
Cindy (daughter)
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Let him rest in peace