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Title: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2006, 03:08:03 PM
I was bored today at work and was on wikipedia all day.  I was reading about Napoleon and in the entry it stated that Joe Weider is one of world`s foremost historians on the French Revolution and especially Napoleon.  He has even written a book which covers the mysterious death of Mr. Bonaparte`.


Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: ANAL DISCHARGE on May 26, 2006, 03:09:33 PM
It's Ben Weider who is the Napoleon expert.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2006, 03:10:24 PM
yah...oops.

In 1955, the diaries of Louis Marchand, Napoléon's valet, appeared in print. He describes Napoléon in the months leading up to his death, and led many, most notably Sten Forshufvud and Ben Weider, to conclude that he had been killed by arsenic poisoning.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 26, 2006, 03:13:25 PM
yah...oops.

In 1955, the diaries of Louis Marchand, Napoléon's valet, appeared in print. He describes Napoléon in the months leading up to his death, and led many, most notably Sten Forshufvud and Ben Weider, to conclude that he had been killed by arsenic poisoning.
for someone who loves German history----you should hate Napolean----------------------even though he changed the face of modern warfare
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: kmhphoto on May 26, 2006, 04:04:17 PM
for someone who loves German history----you should hate Napolean----------------------even though he changed the face of modern warfare

By losing?
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2006, 04:07:33 PM
By losing?

Nobody wins forever, man. 
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 26, 2006, 04:07:54 PM
By losing?
yes
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Cavalier22 on May 26, 2006, 10:53:25 PM
its human nature.


win for 8 years or so, get overly confidant think you are a god, then overextend yourself and end up in disaster
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Ron on May 26, 2006, 11:09:07 PM

The Weiders - Ben and his son Eric - are really into historical military figures and battles and lots more.  They even have started a magazine titled Armchair General about this. Here is the site, its pretty cool.

http://www.armchairgeneral.com


Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 27, 2006, 04:44:15 AM
'Weider History Group announced today the purchase of Primedia’s military history and American social history magazines and related web sites, including American History, Military History, World War II, Wild West, Civil War Times, America’s Civil War, MHQ, British Heritage, Vietnam and Aviation History, plus Historynet.com'

from website
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 27, 2006, 04:46:44 AM
its human nature.


win for 8 years or so, get overly confidant think you are a god, then overextend yourself and end up in disaster

hmmm, is president bush listening?
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: WOOO on May 27, 2006, 05:02:46 AM
its human nature.


win for 8 years or so, get overly confidant think you are a god, then overextend yourself and end up in disaster
prophetic!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: WOOO on May 27, 2006, 05:04:04 AM
hmmm, is president bush listening?
nah he sticks to the alphabet boards with the rest of us....
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 27, 2006, 06:14:28 AM
Ben Weider was considered for a Nobel Prize because of his ground breaking research on Napoleon. He has one of the if not the largest collections of Napoleon artifacts in the world and even owns a sample of his hair which he had chemically analysed to draw conclusions about his death, which was reported to be poisoning.

The Beef
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 27, 2006, 06:30:25 AM
The Weiders - Ben and his son Eric - are really into historical military figures and battles and lots more.  They even have started a magazine titled Armchair General about this. Here is the site, its pretty cool.

http://www.armchairgeneral.com




I Wargame and paint figures as well. Not as much as when I was a kid . My brother has actually written 3 rulebooks that are quite popular in these circles. He runs tournaments and all that shit
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Rome on May 27, 2006, 06:41:26 AM
for someone who loves German history----you should hate Napoleon----------------------even though he changed the face of modern warfare
Napoleon was a hack and a frequent loser but he was a great spin master and proclaimend a lot of his defeats - VICTORIES. He didn't give a shit about his men either, they were nothing more then cannon fodder. I'm glad he's dead  :)
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: stuntmovie on May 27, 2006, 08:18:06 AM
Did any member in the Weider family ever serve time in the Armed Forces?
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 27, 2006, 08:52:54 AM
Ben Weider was considered for a Nobel Prize because of his ground breaking research on Napoleon. He has one of the if not the largest collections of Napoleon artifacts in the world and even owns a sample of his hair which he had chemically analysed to draw conclusions about his death, which was reported to be poisoning.

The Beef
Nobel Prize!? I think you have it mistaken for another one. The Nobels are given out in recognition of a very specific contribution to the betterment of man/womankind -ie. medicine, peace and more lately, economics. Weider's contribution, if any, would be considered some kind of medico-historical sleuthing, and still a theory, at best. 
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 27, 2006, 08:58:50 AM
I heard he spent something like $10,000,000 investigating Napoleon's death, money that could definetly been put to better use...
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: sarcasm on May 27, 2006, 08:59:50 AM
I heard he spent something like $10,000,000 investigating Napoleon's death, money that could definetly been put to better use...

are you saying that the Weider brothers are gay, Captain Equipoise?
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 27, 2006, 09:34:31 AM
are you saying that the Weider brothers are gay, Captain Equipoise?

no but you sure sound like one  :)
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: walking sculpture on May 27, 2006, 11:24:15 AM
Ben Weider is creepy....
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 27, 2006, 02:35:25 PM
Nobel Prize!? I think you have it mistaken for another one. The Nobels are given out in recognition of a very specific contribution to the betterment of man/womankind -ie. medicine, peace and more lately, economics. Weider's contribution, if any, would be considered some kind of medico-historical sleuthing, and still a theory, at best. 

I see where you are coming from . . . I was under the impression it was for his total body of work  regarding NB. I may be mistaken, do you have any way of finding out?

The Beef
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 27, 2006, 03:00:58 PM
I see where you are coming from . . . I was under the impression it was for his total body of work  regarding NB. I may be mistaken, do you have any way of finding out?

The Beef

A quick search (wiki) shows him receiving several national honours and a GetBig interview notes he was a Nobel Peace Prize nominee in 1984 for his 'contributions to sport.' Bit of a surprise there, for me, if it is indeed true. That year saw Desmond Tutu win  - a more fitting prize winner to my mind. No awards seem to linked to his Napoleon Complex.  ;) Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: badlad on May 27, 2006, 09:26:37 PM
Didn't Napoleon suffer from klinefelters?
I believe his bitch tits could be traced to something else - small man syndrome combined with muscle envy plus possible excessive steroid use. Anyways you can always just email Ben.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: onlyme on May 27, 2006, 09:50:39 PM
I see where you are coming from . . . I was under the impression it was for his total body of work  regarding NB. I may be mistaken, do you have any way of finding out?

The Beef

He was nominated in 1984 for Nobel.  Go here tells everything about Ben.  Many awards


www.ifbb.com/ben.html (http://www.ifbb.com/ben.html)
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: kmhphoto on May 27, 2006, 11:07:58 PM
Ben Weider was considered for a Nobel Prize because of his ground breaking research on Napoleon. He has one of the if not the largest collections of Napoleon artifacts in the world and even owns a sample of his hair which he had chemically analysed to draw conclusions about his death, which was reported to be poisoning.

The Beef

Without DNA testing on any of the hair samples, it is not possible to prove those offered for analysis were genuine. Until that happens the "aresenic poisoning" conspiracy theorists can join the ranks of "grassy knoll" and " Loch Ness Monster" theorists.
It's easy to prove what's there, impossible to prove what's not.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: onlyme on May 28, 2006, 02:01:22 AM
Without DNA testing on any of the hair samples, it is not possible to prove those offered for analysis were genuine. Until that happens the "aresenic poisoning" conspiracy theorists can join the ranks of "grassy knoll" and " Loch Ness Monster" theorists.
It's easy to prove what's there, impossible to prove what's not.

I have a friend who is auctioning off hair from George Washington in Vegas in Sept..  It has been authenticated by every expert in the world on this.  She has spent close to $100,000 authenticating it.  And is has been authenticated to be several strands of George's hair.  George Washington was buried and exhumed 3 times since his death for various reasons.  The hair apparently was taken just before his death I think.  It was the first and last hair samples they have prior to his death.  They are expecting to get between $250,000 and $1 million for it.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: kmhphoto on May 28, 2006, 02:31:37 AM
I have a friend who is auctioning off hair from George Washington in Vegas in Sept..  It has been authenticated by every expert in the world on this.  She has spent close to $100,000 authenticating it.  And is has been authenticated to be several strands of George's hair.  George Washington was buried and exhumed 3 times since his death for various reasons.  The hair apparently was taken just before his death I think.  It was the first and last hair samples they have prior to his death.  They are expecting to get between $250,000 and $1 million for it.

There must be a lot of it.
A few strands were recently sold on Ebay for 360.00!
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: brianX on May 28, 2006, 02:33:41 AM
Being nominated for a Nobel Prize doesn't really mean jack shit. Any professor or high ranking government official in the world can submit a nomination. The Nobel committee never publicly announces who the nominees are, so there is no way to verify that Weider was nominated. Even Tookie Williams was "nominated" for both the literature and peace prizes.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: ANAL DISCHARGE on May 28, 2006, 02:35:02 AM
Like Monsieur Scaramanger, Ben Weider has a third nipple.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 28, 2006, 05:01:19 AM
He was nominated in 1984 for Nobel.  Go here tells everything about Ben.  Many awards


www.ifbb.com/ben.html (http://www.ifbb.com/ben.html)

Thank you, sir.

The Beef
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: Gord on May 28, 2006, 05:04:54 AM
Another little known fact about Joe Weider:

Robby Robinson used Joe's physique to compete in all his shows.
Title: Re: Little Known FACTS about Joe Weider and other Bodybuilders!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 28, 2006, 07:46:23 AM
Being nominated for a Nobel Prize doesn't really mean jack shit. Any professor or high ranking government official in the world can submit a nomination. The Nobel committee never publicly announces who the nominees are, so there is no way to verify that Weider was nominated. Even Tookie Williams was "nominated" for both the literature and peace prizes.

Absolutely right on the money. I was just trying to be polite about it. I mean really, The Peace Prize!? C'mon now.