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Title: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Betty & Ed Pariso on June 07, 2006, 07:20:48 PM
King called and will be on stage at the Europa Super Show,  if I only could get Shawn back in posing trunks I could sell ring side seats. I will pay your way!

Well, for all the King supporters, buy your ticket.  For all the haters, lets hear it ?  For me, I love all the back & forth stuff...

www.europasupershow.com (http://www.europasupershow.com)

Ed Pariso
Promoter
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: Bigger Business on June 07, 2006, 07:35:30 PM
Well, for all the King supporters, buy your ticket.  For all the hatters, lets hear it ? 
For me, I love all the back & forth stuff...

Ta da!
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: Shawn Ray on June 07, 2006, 07:54:25 PM
Betty, are we really going there with this?
Tell me this is not how you plan to sell tickets?
Hell, let's invite Ken Jones and Pelletier, now there is a Contest! ;D
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on June 07, 2006, 07:55:17 PM
King called and will be on stage at the Europa Super Show,  if I only could get Shawn back in posing trunks I could sell ring side seats.

Well, for all the King supporters, buy your ticket.  For all the hatters, lets hear it ? 
For me, I love all the back & forth stuff...

www.europasupershow.com (http://www.europasupershow.com)

Ed Pariso
Promoter

 If Shawn was still completing he would wipe the floor with kamali, you are talking about one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time being compared to a 3rd tier pro.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 07, 2006, 07:59:50 PM
If Shawn was still completing he would wipe the floor with kamali, you are talking about one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time being compared to a c class pro.

get your terminology right, it's 3rd tier.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: Wombat on June 07, 2006, 08:11:03 PM
King called and will be on stage at the Europa Super Show,  if I only could get Shawn back in posing trunks I could sell ring side seats.

Well, for all the King supporters, buy your ticket.  For all the hatters, lets hear it ? 
For me, I love all the back & forth stuff...

www.europasupershow.com (http://www.europasupershow.com)

Ed Pariso
Promoter

c'on King and Titus was a decent match up because they were both "non 1st teir pros" but if Shawn got in shape, what do you really think would happen?  I'll tell ya---while shawn was posing at the night show, king would already be at McDonalds ordering everything on the dollar menu 10 times over...Maybe just maybe King would make it back to watch the final pose down and help shawn carry his medals to his car...

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: timfogarty on June 07, 2006, 08:58:11 PM
last year it was advertised as the 12th annual Europa Super Show.  This year is the 13th.  Could someone please tell me what were the other 11 ?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: 420 Diesel on June 07, 2006, 09:21:42 PM
is branch doing this show?

he deserved to win one this year.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: MorningPoop on June 07, 2006, 09:27:26 PM
Oh come on Shawn, you know Betty is a few months behind on her KIA car payments, she REALLY needs to sell tickets so she can pay her payments. They want to repo her car.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Ron on June 07, 2006, 09:53:54 PM

King is going to be in the top three at the Super Show. As he said in the interview, he is going to come in harder, tougher, leaner and surprise all of you.  Of course, if George Farah gets his way, he might be second.

As for Shawn, soon he may be competing against me in the 'Who can eat the most Chinese Orange Chicken' event.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 07, 2006, 11:22:05 PM
Tell me this is not how you plan to sell tickets?
Hell, let's invite Ken Jones and Pelletier, now there is a Contest! ;D

Shawn, are you questioning the quality of the Europa lineup?


Anyone know if Branch is doing this show?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Bluto on June 08, 2006, 02:00:36 AM
why is it called europa if it's in the us
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Arnold_Anabo on June 08, 2006, 02:19:58 AM
Dennis will compete at the Europa Super Show. Picture taken 12 weeks and 2 days out at 291 pounds.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: WOOO on June 08, 2006, 02:21:28 AM
Shawn, are you questioning the quality of the Europa lineup?


Anyone know if Branch is doing this show?

Branch is on the poster....



if Kamali is 3rd or better Ron...



i will eat my hat
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Lynchie on June 08, 2006, 03:04:32 AM
Dennis will compete at the Europa Super Show. Picture taken 12 weeks and 2 days out at 291 pounds.

This guy is completely average
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: mrbham on June 08, 2006, 04:18:18 AM
Europa is a supplement company that is a sponser.  It has been an amature show for the past 13 years, pro just last year I think.  I personally don't think king will be in the top 3, I want Dennis wolfe do well.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: jaejonna on June 08, 2006, 05:32:21 AM
King is going to be in the top three at the Super Show. As he said in the interview, he is going to come in harder, tougher, leaner and surprise all of you. 

Here we go again
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Stavios on June 08, 2006, 05:33:59 AM
This guy is completely average
::)
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: littleguns on June 08, 2006, 05:59:27 AM
IMO Shawn has nothing to prove, he had his time on the competitive stage, kicked ass and took names and is now leading an normal life (not having to eat 4-5000 Cals, do cardio 1-2 hrs a day etc etc)

Can anyone list the current participants of the show?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Betty & Ed Pariso on June 08, 2006, 06:07:17 AM
Europa is the name of the Sponsor. 

This is our 4th Pro Show

This is our 13 annual Sports EXPO

And we are late on our plane payment.

The truth is Shawn has nothing to prove.  He has been at the top...

ED PARISO
www.europasupershow.com (http://www.europasupershow.com)

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: jaejonna on June 08, 2006, 06:20:13 AM
Betty, are we really going there with this?
Tell me this is not how you plan to sell tickets?
Hell, let's invite Ken Jones and Pelletier, now there is a Contest! ;D

For real, Betty I would think that this strategy is coutering your intentions...people want to see Bodybuilders not Kamali.

Edited for racist content
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Betty & Ed Pariso on June 08, 2006, 06:35:27 AM
Yes for real ???   

I have based my entire 15 event weekend and all my 13 year investment on ticket sales of King.

Ed Pariso



Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: jaejonna on June 08, 2006, 06:37:23 AM
Yes for real ???   

I have based my entire 15 event weekend and all my 13 year investment on ticket sales of King.

Ed Pariso




I didnt mean it like that , but why mention a BB who is probably going to place somewhere between 7th and 10th place .
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: adipo8 on June 08, 2006, 06:39:57 AM
KIng and Shawn - should never be mentioned  in the same sentence.

Shawn along with Kevin and Flex  - Built this sport on their backs for years- With thier Trash talking however  THEY BACKED IT UP WITH WINS AND TICKET SALES !  Shawn has never lied on any  assesments of Athletes's Physiques Maybe not popular BUT NEVER LIED.

 IF you are looking for King to boost sales I would suggest - paying King to stay home and hiring Shawn to commentate.

Peope are still shaking thier heads at  the 10 athletes who dieted 16 weeks who clearly looked  better at the NewYork Pro show- If it was not for Phil and Dareem - people would be so upset about his placing - It was nonsense along with his poor rountine - WHICH WAS HIS STRONG POINT!

LOSE ABOUT 10 POUNDS- LOSE THE MOUTH AND THE ROUTINE  and then Call Us! Oh yeah stop calling us haters - we just do not care about you !

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Hedgehog on June 08, 2006, 06:49:15 AM
I didnt mean it like that , but why mention a BB who is probably going to place somewhere between 7th and 10th place .

Here's a thought...


*Maybe* because Kamali has been a hot topic the last few days here on Getbig?

So there is an interest in seeing how he'll do.

That could be it perhaps?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: jaejonna on June 08, 2006, 07:01:25 AM
Here's a thought...


*Maybe* because Kamali has been a hot topic the last few days here on Getbig?

So there is an interest in seeing how he'll do.

That could be it perhaps?

YIP
Zack
How many people on Getbig actually go to the shows who arent going to go anyways....
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 08, 2006, 07:12:34 AM


I have based my entire 15 event weekend and all my 13 year investment on ticket sales of King.



LOL. Ed, you fit in just fine with this group ;D

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: shootfighter1 on June 08, 2006, 07:42:58 AM
Dennis Wolfe will have a very impressive debut.  Looks how incredible he looks at 12 weeks out (with no color).  Is there a competitors list up?  Good to hear King is competing but he will not be top 5 if there are some good competitors there.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Bossa on June 08, 2006, 07:56:40 AM
Dennis Wolfe will have a very impressive debut.  Looks how incredible he looks at 12 weeks out (with no color).  Is there a competitors list up?  Good to hear King is competing but he will not be top 5 if there are some good competitors there.

shootfighter1 are you saying that Kamali is a a 3rd tier pro with no chance of ever making top 5 in a professional show?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 08, 2006, 08:01:37 AM
Yes for real ???  

I have based my entire 15 event weekend and all my 13 year investment on ticket sales of King.

Ed Pariso

You need to get in touch with the fluoxetine, brother!
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 08, 2006, 08:07:09 AM
King called and will be on stage at the Europa Super Show,  if I only could get Shawn back in posing trunks I could sell ring side seats. I will pay your way!

Well, for all the King supporters, buy your ticket.  For all the haters, lets hear it ?  For me, I love all the back & forth stuff...

www.europasupershow.com (http://www.europasupershow.com)

Ed Pariso
Promoter

That's a pointless post.  If you're playing with a full deck you know without question that you can not compare a Shawn Ray to a King Kamali and in fact if they were competing in a show, say the olympia, together the judges would not bother to compare the top 3 athletes with 6-15 or where ever King winds up placing.  Top tier get compared to top tier so there is no rivalry since they are not equals.  King is a very good pro and a great bodybuilder but at this time he has not done well enough to be seen as Shawn's equal.  Also, and this is quite obvious as well, there's nothing left for Shawn to prove, he's made his mark and become an icon of the sport and then moved on to greener pastures as all smart bodybuilders should. 
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 08, 2006, 08:10:57 AM
Dennis will compete at the Europa Super Show. Picture taken 12 weeks and 2 days out at 291 pounds.

Oh shit... was anyone else competing and in that kind of condition 12 weeks out.. damn look at that tiny waist!   Unreal, and if he brings up those calves then watch out!  As of now he looks like a white version of Flex but a whole lot bigger.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: jaejonna on June 08, 2006, 08:14:37 AM
 Unreal, and if he brings up those calves then watch out! 
Bring up calves takes years, maybe decades...
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Bossa on June 08, 2006, 08:17:52 AM
Bring up calves takes years, maybe decades...

unless you are flex ::)

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Stavios on June 08, 2006, 08:18:11 AM
Ed, are Branch and JOJ competing in the show this year ?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 08, 2006, 08:18:42 AM
Bring up calves takes years, maybe decades...

I hear ya brother but his calves don't insert all that high so there is potential to fill them out and he is white... so...  they'll come up.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 08, 2006, 08:21:32 AM
Dennis Wolfe will have a very impressive debut.  Looks how incredible he looks at 12 weeks out (with no color).  Is there a competitors list up?  Good to hear King is competing but he will not be top 5 if there are some good competitors there.

That's what I'm saying!  He's got size, shape, no gut and it looks like he can stay very lean year round without a whole lot of trouble.  I can't wait to see him on an olympia stage.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: GreatFinn on June 08, 2006, 08:29:08 AM
Dennis Wolfe will have a very impressive debut.  Looks how incredible he looks at 12 weeks out (with no color).  Is there a competitors list up?  Good to hear King is competing but he will not be top 5 if there are some good competitors there.

If there is four 100lb nerds and king, he still be in 5th place, just because he have ugly physic  ;D   
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 08, 2006, 08:33:14 AM
If there is four 100lb nerds and king, he still be in 5th place, just because he have ugly physic  ;D   

Yeah, um... right dude.. now just go back to reading braille and leave Dennis Wolf's pics to those of us with eyesight. 

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Hedgehog on June 08, 2006, 08:37:52 AM
I think Bay posted about this dude awhile ago.

Maybe he could give us his expert opinion on the matter on how Wolfe will place. 8)

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: shootfighter1 on June 08, 2006, 09:08:25 AM
King is a good BBer and I respect almost all pros.  IMO, his best showing was his pro debut, he hasn't looked the same since.  The waist is an issue for him.  I do not think he will be top 5 at the bigger shows.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Hedgehog on June 08, 2006, 09:14:23 AM
King is a good BBer and I respect almost all pros.  IMO, his best showing was his pro debut, he hasn't looked the same since.  The waist is an issue for him.  I do not think he will be top 5 at the bigger shows.

He should do this show, then clean up and drop weight. Perhaps go for it one more time next spring, see what he will look like at around 225-230.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Shawn Ray on June 08, 2006, 09:20:14 AM
Betty, you know I'll be there to support you and Ed! ;D
Finally, in 2007 I'll be getting my Bodybuilding Hall of Fame induction to go with my High School Football induction 2 years ago! ;D
Looks like I have nothing to prove is right!
The question is, "where will WALDO place in your show and will it help him get closer to the Hall of Fame or will he be stuck in the Hall of Shame when the Fat lady Sings 12 years from now?" Since that's how many more Olympia's he'll have to do before he makes 1 Top 5 placing.
Will that make him 49? :-[
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Bossa on June 08, 2006, 09:22:54 AM
Betty, you know I'll be there to support you and Ed! ;D
Finally, in 2007 I'll be getting my Bodybuilding Hall of Fame induction to go with my High School Football induction 2 years ago! ;D
Looks like I have nothing to prove is right!
The question is, "where will WALDO place in your show and will it help him get closer to the Hall of Fame or will he be stuck in the Hall of Shame when the Fat lady Sings 12 years from now?" Since that's how many more Olympia's he'll have to do before he makes 1 Top 5 placing.
Will that make him 49? :-[

Shawn are you saying that you have let your physique and accomplishments speak for themselves while all kamali can do is talk with nothing to back it up?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Shawn Ray on June 08, 2006, 09:24:46 AM
Did I say that? ???
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 08, 2006, 09:28:01 AM
Betty, you know I'll be there to support you and Ed! ;D
Finally, in 2007 I'll be getting my Bodybuilding Hall of Fame induction to go with my High School Football induction 2 years ago! ;D
Looks like I have nothing to prove is right!
The question is, "where will WALDO place in your show and will it help him get closer to the Hall of Fame or will he be stuck in the Hall of Shame when the Fat lady Sings 12 years from now?" Since that's how many more Olympia's he'll have to do before he makes 1 Top 5 placing.
Will that make him 49? :-[

Damn that's harsh Shawn.  How do you think Dennis Wolfe will do?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Shawn Ray on June 08, 2006, 09:30:06 AM
Never seen him in person, he's got the same chance as any new pro with "Potential" to do well. :-\
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: spacemunkeyz on June 08, 2006, 09:33:26 AM
well dennis couldnt do any worst then federov

but lets see what the competitors list looks like first.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 08, 2006, 09:36:56 AM
Betty, you know I'll be there to support you and Ed! ;D
Finally, in 2007 I'll be getting my Bodybuilding Hall of Fame induction to go with my High School Football induction 2 years ago! ;D
Looks like I have nothing to prove is right!
The question is, "where will WALDO place in your show and will it help him get closer to the Hall of Fame or will he be stuck in the Hall of Shame when the Fat lady Sings 12 years from now?" Since that's how many more Olympia's he'll have to do before he makes 1 Top 5 placing.
Will that make him 49? :-[

LOL, high school football induction?

Did you just pimp your high school football induction? LOL

Wow.

Does the county lockup have a hall of fame? I wonder if getting busted for transporting your son's drugs would qualify someone for induction.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Shawn Ray on June 08, 2006, 09:45:01 AM
Ha, ha, ha...................... . ;D
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Man of Steel on June 08, 2006, 09:59:11 AM
Dennis will compete at the Europa Super Show. Picture taken 12 weeks and 2 days out at 291 pounds.

Brutal tan!!!


SAVAGE CALVES!!!!!
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2006, 10:35:50 AM

Point is that King Kamali has made himself with his ability to market, whether you like it or not, one of the most spoken and talked about competitors in our industry. This guy had a persona, and everyone in the world knows about him. And you can be sured that as the Southwest Pro Show gets closer and closer, all eyes will be on Kamali. Like it or not, he makes the sport entertaining.

Every day, many others wonder how the hell can they get publicity from the boards, from the magazines, from the fans.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 08, 2006, 10:41:07 AM
Every day, many others wonder how the hell can they get publicity from the boards, from the magazines, from the fans.

Hiring 240 is always a good start ;)
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: jaejonna on June 08, 2006, 10:50:56 AM
How funny would it be if you went to a show/expo and asked to get your pic taken with a pro then right as they think its picture time , you pull away and give them the finger, then take that picture  ...hahahah

That would be the best GetBig prank ever !!
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: timfogarty on June 08, 2006, 11:24:22 AM
Europa is the name of the Sponsor. 

now what am I going to do in the database at MuscleMemory (http://musclememory.com) ?

my rule has always been no corporate names in the titles.  I don't list it as GNC Show of Strength, just Show of Strength.

on the other hand, never heard of the Europa Corporation.

didn't understand Southwest Pro either, as Dallas is hardly in the southwest.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 08, 2006, 11:28:34 AM
now what am I going to do in the database at MuscleMemory (http://musclememory.com)

my rule has always been no corporate names in the titles.  I don't list it as GNC Show of Strength, just Show of Strength.

on the other hand, never heard of the Europa Corporation.

You've never heard of Europa?  One of the bigger supplement distributors in the US.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: timfogarty on June 08, 2006, 11:33:19 AM
You've never heard of Europa?  One of the bigger supplement distributors in the US.

just went to http://www.dpsnutrition.net (http://www.dpsnutrition.net), where I buy my supplements.  No Europa listed.  Went to bodybuilding.com.  Not listed there either.

googled them (actually yahoo) and found their website.  so they seem to distribute other people's brands.  besides the fact that I haven't been inside a supplement store in 8+ years, why would it matter to me who's warehouse the product was in before it got to the mom and pop supplement store?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: onlyme on June 08, 2006, 11:58:36 AM
Jeez Tim Europa has the biggest booth at the Arnold jsut about.  They always have great food in there
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 08, 2006, 12:26:52 PM
just went to http://www.dpsnutrition.net (http://www.dpsnutrition.net), where I buy my supplements.  No Europa listed.  Went to bodybuilding.com.  Not listed there either.

googled them (actually yahoo) and found their website.  so they seem to distribute other people's brands.  besides the fact that I haven't been inside a supplement store in 8+ years, why would it matter to me who's warehouse the product was in before it got to the mom and pop supplement store?

 Huge distributors to gyms, etc... I'm just suprised you haven't heard of them.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: BigBack on June 08, 2006, 12:45:52 PM
Europa is THE largest sports nutrition distributor.  They have four warehouses nationwide, and carry over 160 different lines. 
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: Lee_a_priest on June 08, 2006, 01:23:25 PM
Betty, are we really going there with this?
Tell me this is not how you plan to sell tickets?
Hell, let's invite Ken Jones and Pelletier, now there is a Contest! ;D

Now Shawn you worried Betty will sell more then you?  :)
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa...Shawn call me I will pay your way.
Post by: jaejonna on June 08, 2006, 01:26:30 PM
Now Shawn you worried Betty will sell more then you?  :)

Lee I like the Bodybuilders Reality DVD ... you crack me up with your antics
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Betty & Ed Pariso on June 08, 2006, 02:12:25 PM
Never heard of Europa ??? Have you ever been to the Arnold ?  It really doesn't matter...The Corporate Sponsor know...Europa is the big dog.

ED PARISO
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: WiseGuy on June 08, 2006, 02:25:39 PM
Dennis will compete at the Europa Super Show. Picture taken 12 weeks and 2 days out at 291 pounds.


this guy will CRUSH Kamali....

 :-\
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: WiseGuy on June 08, 2006, 02:29:06 PM
Point is that King Kamali has made himself with his ability to market, whether you like it or not, one of the most spoken and talked about competitors in our industry. This guy had a persona, and everyone in the world knows about him. And you can be sured that as the Southwest Pro Show gets closer and closer, all eyes will be on Kamali. Like it or not, he makes the sport entertaining.

Every day, many others wonder how the hell can they get publicity from the boards, from the magazines, from the fans.


get off King's nuts...

king better bring his arms up ALOT to win this show...


which wont happen........

 :D
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: timfogarty on June 08, 2006, 02:32:56 PM
Never heard of Europa ??? Have you ever been to the Arnold ?

No, I've never been to the Arnold.  I'd like to go one day for the expo, but it's always a matter of time and money.  when I have one, I don't have the other.

Quote
It really doesn't matter...The Corporate Sponsor know...Europa is the big dog.

since I don't sell supplements I would never be in a position to chose whether to use their services.  And I don't think any customer is going to say I'm going to buy my supplements from mom and pop store X because they use Europa as their distributor.   But my guess is their business model is probably hurting, unless they also supply web stores.  just as with book stores, brick and mortar supplement stores are quickly disappearing.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 08, 2006, 02:43:50 PM
just went to http://www.dpsnutrition.net (http://www.dpsnutrition.net), where I buy my supplements.  No Europa listed.  Went to bodybuilding.com.  Not listed there either.

googled them (actually yahoo) and found their website.  so they seem to distribute other people's brands.  besides the fact that I haven't been inside a supplement store in 8+ years, why would it matter to me who's warehouse the product was in before it got to the mom and pop supplement store?




I been using Europa Sports for 2 years to have my speciality goods shipped in.  Every order arrives next day.  Great company
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Disgusted on June 08, 2006, 03:22:05 PM
Been dealing with Europa since 1990. Great company.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: onlyme on June 08, 2006, 03:37:55 PM



I been using Europa Sports for 2 years to have my speciality goods shipped in.  Every order arrives next day.  Great company

Vince maybe you should delete your post.  All it can do it have negative points against Europa.  I am prettysure they wouldn't want your endorsement out there like this.  They are a good company.  Please don't ruin it with you association.  My god man, don't you care!  Do the right thing and just say NO!
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Disgusted on June 08, 2006, 04:01:07 PM
Vince maybe you should delete your post.  All it can do it have negative points against Europa.  I am prettysure they wouldn't want your endorsement out there like this.  They are a good company.  Please don't ruin it with you association.  My god man, don't you care!  Do the right thing and just say NO!

 ;D
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Betty & Ed Pariso on June 08, 2006, 04:37:06 PM
Again TimF...go to the web site...look at all the Corporate Sponsor.  Who cares if you buy or know who Europa is...that is not the point.  Everyone knew GNC and the Show of Strength...and what happen ???

The Corporate Sponsors understand !!!

1. This is an established show
2. 6,700 at the 13th annual EXPO
3. 2,200 at the Saturday Evening Finals  (400 standing we didn't have seats for).
4. And of course Europa.

And those are last years numbers with only 7 events, we now are up to 15 events.

This is the 3rd biggest show behind the "O" and the Arnold with over 100 Pro athletes, 1,500 competitors, foot traffic and Corporate Sponsorships...all the numbers that matter.

Their is a reason FLEX called it the next Arnold. 

Ed
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 08, 2006, 04:52:38 PM
I been using Europa Sports for 2 years to have my speciality goods shipped in.  Every order arrives next day.  Great company

Speaking of supps...

Vince, I remember you mentioning that you had 5 endorsed athletes who used your products, including one who made it to the WWE. 

WHo were they?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Shawn Ray on June 08, 2006, 05:05:31 PM
Lee, I am not afraid of anything, you know this MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN! ;D
I support Ed and Betty, always have, I'll be adding one more Body to the event, as I will be there again, I've only missed the show once.
That being said, How's it feel to be KING of the PDI without having stepped on stage yet? ;D
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: gordiano on June 08, 2006, 05:05:31 PM
Speaking of supps...

Vince, I remember you mentioning that you had 5 endorsed athletes who used your products, including one who made it to the WWE. 

WHo were they?


Oh god, please spare me. Like he's really gonna tell us. He was bullshiting, now we've called him on it..........
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Big N on June 08, 2006, 05:23:10 PM
Point is that King Kamali has made himself with his ability to market, whether you like it or not, one of the most spoken and talked about competitors in our industry. This guy had a persona, and everyone in the world knows about him. And you can be sured that as the Southwest Pro Show gets closer and closer, all eyes will be on Kamali. Like it or not, he makes the sport entertaining.

Every day, many others wonder how the hell can they get publicity from the boards, from the magazines, from the fans.



Ron you're a man of big truthful words, you nailed it with that post!

peace
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 08, 2006, 05:26:15 PM
Lee, I am not afraid of anything you this MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!
I support Ed and Betty, always have, I'll be adding one more Body to the event, as I will be there again, I've only missed the show once.
That being said, How's it feel to be KING of the PDI without having stepped on stage yet? ;D
Anyone else understand what the sentence in bold means?

He's king of the PDI what are you king of?
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Big N on June 08, 2006, 05:31:10 PM
Anyone else understand what the sentence in bold means?

He's king of the PDI what are you king of?


lol that was funny
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: timfogarty on June 08, 2006, 05:42:32 PM
Again TimF...go to the web site...look at all the Corporate Sponsor.  Who cares if you buy or know who Europa is...that is not the point. 

my point was that Europa Super Show is a strange name for a bodybuilding contest in Texas.  I had no idea that Europa was the name of a sponsor, and I think the average fan wouldn't know either.

my other point was that the average fan would think that the Europa Super Show refers to the bodybuilding contest and not the entire expo, and that 13th annual is a bit misleading.   Years from now, no one will remember there was an expo along with the contest.   Couldn't you call it the Southwest Pro at the Europa Super Show?

It's like college football bowl games.  Look up in a sports almanac, it will show a list of the winners of the Fiesta Bowl or the Sugar Bowl.  It won't use a different name for every year with a different corporate sponsor.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Wombat on June 08, 2006, 10:06:50 PM
my point was that Europa Super Show is a strange name for a bodybuilding contest in Texas.  I had no idea that Europa was the name of a sponsor, and I think the average fan wouldn't know either.

my other point was that the average fan would think that the Europa Super Show refers to the bodybuilding contest and not the entire expo, and that 13th annual is a bit misleading.   Years from now, no one will remember there was an expo along with the contest.   Couldn't you call it the Southwest Pro at the Europa Super Show?

It's like college football bowl games.  Look up in a sports almanac, it will show a list of the winners of the Fiesta Bowl or the Sugar Bowl.  It won't use a different name for every year with a different corporate sponsor.

i hear ya Tim,

I belong to a few boards and don't know shit about this...and it looks like she isn't really telling anyone that doesn't know shit about it what it is...No web sites no nothing...I guess I'll take her word on it that they are a big dog...maybe when people think of the Arnold name, Parsio just seems to be lunked together with the great one :-\
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Lift Studios on June 08, 2006, 10:13:33 PM
It' common for the sponsor to have its name attached to the title/namsake. Does the John Deere Classic sound like a golf tournament to you?

http://www.johndeereclassic.com (http://www.johndeereclassic.com)

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2006, 10:19:32 PM
Europa Sports is a wholesale distributor that distributes various supplement brands to gyms, health foods stores, etc.  Sory of like where I work at DNA Sports that does the same thing. We nor they sell direct to individuals, you need a resale liscense to buy products.  As for them sponsoring the show, I think it is great. We sponsor a number of shows on a local level, including the NPC shows for the last 10+ years.  As for the name, I still tend to use the Europa Southwest Pro show, it is easier to keep it for the record books.

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Hiring 240 is always a good start

Ha, but you don't know which 240 you will get this week or day :)

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didn't understand Southwest Pro either, as Dallas is hardly in the southwest.

Interesting, perhaps they got it from Southwest Airlines, which originating around there.

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Ron! Has Kamali "made your life a living hell" yet because you didn't ban me?


Kamali is fine with him, we respect each other. However, I have PMed a number of you to stop the malicious bashing, and will Time Out guys for doing so.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: timfogarty on June 08, 2006, 10:31:15 PM
It' common for the sponsor to have its name attached to the title/namsake. Does the John Deere Classic sound like a golf tournament to you?

pretty much everyone who would watch the John Deere Classic knows John Deere is a company.  the point was that many of us didn't know that Europa Super Show was named after a sponsor.  Perhaps it needs to be the Europa Sports Products Super Show.

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Interesting, perhaps they got it from Southwest Airlines, which originating around there.

Southwest flew to the southwest.  El Paso is in the southwest.  Midland is not.

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Europa Sports is a wholesale distributor that distributes various supplement brands to gyms, health foods stores, etc.

do they sell to web resellers?   as I mentioned before, I haven't bought anything from a gym or a local health food store in many years.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2006, 10:35:14 PM
I think that Southwest Airlines was founded near Dallas, Texas.... makes sense then.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Lift Studios on June 08, 2006, 10:37:38 PM
You assume people know that John Deere is a company, like those in the bodybuilding community would assume you'd know that Europa is one of the biggest companies in our biz. Don't think you need to be quite so literal.

I'll suggest we change the Colorado show to...

The second annual Shawn Ray one of the most bashed pro bodybuilders on getbig vyotech nutritionals Pro/Am Classic

 ;D
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2006, 10:41:12 PM
Actually, most people that buys supplements and products and bars have no idea who Europa Sports or DNA Sports are.  We cater to the resalers, and are behind the scenes.   If you go to a store, people want Muscletech products, BSN products, CytoSports products...  or a brand name like Hydroxycut, or Xenadrine. They don't know that Hydroxycut is by Iovate, and Xenadrine is by Bodyonics Pinnacle.

Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Wombat on June 08, 2006, 10:43:04 PM
You assume people know that John Deere is a company, like those in the bodybuilding community would assume you'd know that Europa is one of the biggest companies in our biz. Don't think you need to be quite so literal.

I'll suggest we change the Colorado show to...

The second annual Shawn Ray one of the most bashed pro bodybuilders on getbig vyotech nutritionals Pro/Am Classic

 ;D

Maybe true but Palumbo "not a pro" takes more sh t than anyone one the planet however you don't see him complaining on a radio show let alone any web site :-\ that being said, Shawn does make it entertaining...
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: timfogarty on June 08, 2006, 11:55:01 PM
Maybe true but Palumbo "not a pro" takes more sh t than anyone one the planet

I thought that was Derek Anthony Springer
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Wombat on June 08, 2006, 11:58:02 PM
I thought that was Derek Anthony Springer

yup forget about ole Derek...You are right on about that...
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Betty & Ed Pariso on June 09, 2006, 06:40:49 AM
Ok here is my point... again.  Euorpa is about Corporate Sponsor's coming to the table to buy sponsorship $$$. 
It has exploded with Corporate Sponsor's...So the name was perfect to grow this show to the next level.
It has sold out with fans & sponsor's since their participation...The perfect name for a Promoter.

My point again...The name doesn't matter..what they bring to the table does.

ED PARISO



Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 09, 2006, 07:25:36 AM
My point again...The name doesn't matter..what they bring to the table does.

ED PARISO

90% of the time, yes. 

However, if you tried to sell, say, DogShyt brand cookies, you couldn't, no matter how good they tasted.

That being said, Europa is kinda a cool name for a show.  I actually did think it was the Euro grand prix tho, and is seems they don't get all muscle-techy with ads in MD and FLEX.
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: LuciusFox on June 09, 2006, 07:28:38 AM
 Is Ruhl still in the show? ???
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Betty & Ed Pariso on June 09, 2006, 08:10:16 AM
240...  but wouldn't Dogs really like Dogshyt cookies ???
Maybe you are really onto something. Then is Dogshyt cookies really took of in the dog world, we could have the 2007 Dogshyt Championship Breaders Classic.  I have an idea for a cool (or steamy) logo.

I haven't got the list of competitors from the IFBB yet, so I will post when I get it from them.
Last year we had around 100 in the Pro Show.

Ed
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Tre on June 09, 2006, 08:30:58 AM

Tim - While it's true that the average fan may not know what 'Europa' refers to, the reality is that most fans don't care why a show has a particular name.  That only matters to the primary sponsor(s).

Right now, it's the Europa Super Show and in a few years, if Europa drops its level of sponsorship, it can become the DNA Super Show or simply the Southwest Super Show or whathaveyou.  I think keeping 'Super Show' in the title will allow them to continue to build that show brand identity for decades to come. 

It's a great event and definitely worth the trip to Texas.   
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: HUGEPECS on June 09, 2006, 08:33:47 AM
His ass will be handed to Him
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Shawn Ray on June 09, 2006, 09:40:46 AM
So, does this mean there will be FOOD served there?
If so, I'm in!
new Name: TEXAS PRO Championships and screw the sponsorship $$$$$$ :o
We can all starve >:(
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: Ron on June 09, 2006, 09:51:37 AM

There you go, the Texas Pro Championship Super Show, sponsored by title sponsor Europa.   Sounds good.  This year, it shall be the Europa Texas Southwest Arlington near Dallas Grand Prix Pro show.

Just like when people called it the Shawn Ray Colorado Pro Show, it was just the Colorado Pro Show. Although we all knew it was Shawn being the main promoter of the show and all.

Bottom line, Ed & Petty always put on a good show, venue and the people love it. Time to go this year guys!
Title: Re: King called he will be at the Europa... what about Shawn?
Post by: 240 is Back on June 09, 2006, 10:02:38 AM
240...  but wouldn't Dogs really like Dogshyt cookies ???
Maybe you are really onto something. Then is Dogshyt cookies really took of in the dog world, we could have the 2007 Dogshyt Championship Breaders Classic.  I have an idea for a cool (or steamy) logo.

I haven't got the list of competitors from the IFBB yet, so I will post when I get it from them.
Last year we had around 100 in the Pro Show.

Ed

I was just pointing out that there is *something* in a name.  You couldn't open a Michael Jackson Daycare Center either :)

I like Europa though. Cool name, and last years show looked to be one of the more open and exciting ones ,along with the Charlotte.   I might borrow my dad's boat and head over from Florida to TX for the show.   How long a trip is there?