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Supposedly he is ratting out a lot of other guys. Anybody care to speculate what MLB players or former players are on his list?
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the guys on ESPN said this will be bigger than canseco, bigger than palmario, bigger than Bonds....
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I wonder if he is going to rat out some of that regions Bodybuilding influences...
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Supposedly he is ratting out a lot of other guys. Anybody care to speculate what MLB players or former players are on his list?
is it just me or does all this baseball stuff seem like non-sense? I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
They should legalize steriods, make those of us who wish to use them, go to doctors, then at least we know it will be admintered in a safer more stable fashion, the gov. could tax it, pharm companies could sell more and bill insurance companies more... I mean, tell me the downside???????
Just venting...
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is it just me or does all this baseball stuff seem like non-sense? I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
They should legalize steriods, make those of us who wish to use them, go to doctors, then at least we know it will be admintered in a safer more stable fashion, the gov. could tax it, pharm companies could sell more and bill insurance companies more... I mean, tell me the downside???????
Just venting...
amen...nuff said...
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... I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
No! We MUST stop steroid use and gay marriage at all costs!!!!! >:(
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LEGALIZE IT!!!! (weed that is ..hehehe)
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damn LOTS of MLB names?
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I feel it's kind of oxymoronic that the "sport" with the most rampant use......Bodybuiding / IFBB is the one area that is least sought after
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I'm just glad that is was a PITCHER getting caught this time around. Everyone is crucifying the sluggers when the guys throwing the ball are juiced too. Been sayin this since day 1
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Here's the article:
Grimsley released day after steroid search
By ANDREW BAGNATO, AP Sports Writer Thu Jun 8, 6:49 AM ET
PHOENIX - Pitcher Jason Grimsley was released by the
Arizona Diamondbacks on Wednesday, a day after his home was searched by federal agents following his admission he used human growth hormone, steroids and amphetamines.
The raid — and Grimsley's implication of other major league ballplayers — was the latest sign that widespread investigations into drug use by athletes are still active, even in the era of tougher testing.
"Clearly," U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan said, "we're not done."
Grimsley's agent told The Associated Press he thought this would mark the end of the 38-year-old reliever's career.
"My guess is Jason's done playing," Joe Bick said in a telephone interview. "I couldn't anticipate that he would play again, but that's his call.
"He didn't want to be a distraction to the team."
Diamondbacks general manager Josh Byrnes said Grimsley asked for his unconditional release in meetings with team officials Tuesday and Wednesday.
"We accepted his request," Byrnes said.
According to court documents, Grimsley failed a baseball drug test in 2003.
Thirteen federal agents searched his home in Scottsdale, Ariz., for six hours Tuesday, but they would not reveal what they found. Investigators who cracked the BALCO steroid scandal in San Francisco said Grimsley initially cooperated in the probe but withdrew his assistance in April, prompting Tuesday's search.
Authorities tracked a package containing two "kits" of human growth hormone — about a season's supply — that was delivered at Grimsley's house on April 19, court documents released Tuesday showed.
Moments later, agents armed with a warrant offered him an option: Cooperate with their investigation into athletes using performance-enhancing drugs, or submit to an immediate search. Grimsley agreed to be interviewed.
He proceeded to detail his "receipt and use of anabolic steroids, amphetamines and human growth hormone over the last several years," but said he went exclusively with HGH when baseball's testing program began.
Grimsley also identified several other players who he said had used or supplied the drugs, though their names were blacked out from court documents. They included a handful of former teammates and one player he identified as one of his "better friends in baseball," adding that it was common knowledge that "Latin players" were a major source for amphetamines.
He also identified a personal fitness trainer to several major league ballplayers who once referred him to someone that later supplied him with an array of drugs.
The investigation is being run by prosecutors and authorities in San Francisco, where five Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative defendants pleaded guilty to distributing or developing steroids. Ryan said the government's probe will "diligently follow the evidence."
A federal grand jury in San Francisco is also investigating whether Giants slugger Barry Bonds lied under oath about using the performance-enhancing drug known as "the clear" during his grand jury testimony that led to the indictment of four people connected to BALCO.
The issue of athletes and drugs has been a constant topic in sports, heightened when Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro and Sammy Sosa testified before Congress last year and further fueled by the Grimsley developments.
"It can't be more of a distraction than it already is,"
New York Yankees pitcher Mike Mussina said. "Every time Barry Bonds comes up to the plate, they're talking about it. How much longer can you keep talking about the same subject?"
Commissioner Bud Selig had no comment on the specifics of Grimsley's case. Major League Baseball executive vice president Rob Manfred said HGH "is a problem for all sports because there is no universally accepted and validated test."
"No governing body in any sport has ever been able to discipline an athlete for the use of HGH," he said.
Grimsley's locker was empty before Arizona's 7-3 loss to Philadelphia at Chase Field.
Bick said "there was no negotiation" over the remainder of Grimsley's $825,000 salary. "Released players get paid," he said.
Grimsley was 1-2 with a 4.88 ERA in 19 games as a long reliever this season, his first with Arizona.
Diamondbacks pitcher Terry Mulholland said Grimsley addressed his NL West-leading teammates after Tuesday's loss to the Phillies.
"He expressed to us that he had too much respect for us to allow this to bring us down," Mulholland said. "He's that kind of guy."
Former Kansas City teammate Jeremy Affeldt said he talked to Grimsley earlier Wednesday.
"He's down. It's an embarrassing thing when you get caught. It was a judgment call on his part. I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he would deny that," Affeldt said.
Grimsley began his career with Philadelphia in 1989 and pitched for Cleveland, California, the Yankees, Kansas City, Baltimore and Arizona. He was 42-58 with a 4.77 ERA.
Grimsley has spent much of his career as a journeyman, but made headlines in 1999 when he confessed to his role in the Albert Belle corked bat caper.
Grimsley, who had been Belle's teammate with Cleveland, admitted he worked his way through a crawl space at Comiskey Park in 1994 and dropped through the ceiling in the umpires' room to replace the illegal bat.
"I went sky diving once, and I can compare it to that," Grimsley said at the time. "The adrenaline rush I got from that caper was just like jumping out of an airplane. It was being in a place you're not supposed to be."
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I think Giambi is on top of the list. I have no doubt he's on.
For half the season last year he couldn't catch up to anyone's fastball and then all of a sudden he's bashing the ball again.
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is it just me or does all this baseball stuff seem like non-sense? I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
Rhino,
You bring up a good point. Who cares if people use performance enhancing drugs, as long as a doctor is involved. That's the way steroids used to be. A personal choice. The use in sporting events is a little more complicated, but I think we will never stop it. There is a history of using cocaine in sports all the way back to the early 1900's!
Look at the double standard with Viagra. It's supposedly the biggest selling drug ever. Do you think it is medically needed for all those users? Isn't a potential side effect blindness (insert joke about going blind here......). I guess most congressmen use it, so we don't hear anything about it. Just my $.02
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two kits of GH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow, public eneny number one, call in the SWAT team. ::)
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is it just me or does all this baseball stuff seem like non-sense? I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
They should legalize steriods, make those of us who wish to use them, go to doctors, then at least we know it will be admintered in a safer more stable fashion, the gov. could tax it, pharm companies could sell more and bill insurance companies more... I mean, tell me the downside???????
Just venting...
Apparently, Congress has solved every other problem in the country, including violence in cartoons. So what else is left??
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the guys on ESPN said this will be bigger than canseco, bigger than palmario, bigger than Bonds....
Wow!
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I feel it's kind of oxymoronic that the "sport" with the most rampant use......Bodybuiding / IFBB is the one area that is least sought after
Bodybuilding is just such a niche sport its not even on the radar.
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I think Giambi is on top of the list. I have no doubt he's on.
For half the season last year he couldn't catch up to anyone's fastball and then all of a sudden he's bashing the ball again.
He can't be that stupid can he? Also his body looks a lot less muscular than a few years ago. I admit he has been back to his old self since mid last year.
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Rick Collins just bought a new yacht. Calling it the Brothers Grimsley.
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They should legalize steriods, make those of us who wish to use them, go to doctors, then at least we know it will be admintered in a safer more stable fashion, the gov. could tax it, pharm companies could sell more and bill insurance companies more... I mean, tell me the downside???????
Just venting...
Ironically, this is exactly what is happening with HRT. The pharmaceutical giants are no doubt lobbying for these crackdowns on illegal steroid / GH use (which is no doubt better for the booming HRT business). Who better to make an example out of than famous athletes?
Before you know it, practically every male in the US over thirty five will be on legal, doctor prescribed HRT. And the population consisting of those who are willing to step outside the law (in order to use whatever they want however they want without medical supervision) will grow smaller and smaller, due to the legal risks.
You've seen how the DEA has gotten involved with steroid crackdowns in Mexico and even Thailand. I'm guessing they'll start pressuring Canada next to tighten their steroid laws. It's all about Big Business and Big Bucks.
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I think Giambi is on top of the list. I have no doubt he's on.
For half the season last year he couldn't catch up to anyone's fastball and then all of a sudden he's bashing the ball again.
Giambi is smashing the ball because of his batting coach Don Mattingly.
If opponents didnt use the infield "shift" everytime he came up, he'd be batting .400.
Giambi is so patient. constantly drawing walks.
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Giambi is smashing the ball because of his batting coach Don Mattingly.
If opponents didnt use the infield "shift" everytime he came up, he'd be batting .400.
Giambi is so patient. constantly drawing walks.
Explain to me how a batting coach helps a seasoned veteran who couldn't catch up to an 89 MPH fastball for half a season all of a sudden start bashing the ball?
He's clearly back on something and I'd bet real money it's HGH. And what's up with him sweating like a pig? The dude has a serious issue with his sweat glands. I wonder what could cause that.
He can't be that stupid can he? Also his body looks a lot less muscular than a few years ago. I admit he has been back to his old self since mid last year.
I don't think he's being stupid, he built his career through performance enhancing drugs and MLB doesn't test for HGH and from what I hear the test itself isn't completely reliable even if they did test.
Plus the players union will never allow any type of blood test so taking HGH was a no brainer for him, except now this Grimley guy got busted and is willing to tell his story.
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Bingo!
Politicians talk about bullshit non-issues like steroids, immigration, and gay marriage to take our mind off the real issues and problems they're conveniently ignoring. >:(
Illegal immigration is a huge issue. Soon New Mexico, southern California and Texas are going to be a majority Mexican. These people will then vote. They will elect their own leaders. They will enact laws effecting all including non-Mexicans. Many Mexican Americans real allegience is to Mexico and not the USA. There are many Mexican-American organizations who's stated goal is to reclaim the southwest for Mexico.
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Explain to me how a batting coach helps a seasoned veteran who couldn't catch up to an 89 MPH fastball for half a season all of a sudden start bashing the ball?
He's clearly back on something and I'd bet real money it's HGH. And what's up with him sweating like a pig from? The dude has a serious issue with his sweat glands. I wonder what could cause that.
Maybe he is clean. he also got rid of that intestinal parasite and has put his juicing problems behind him.
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Its is very arguable if HGH has ANY performance enhancing benefits to athletes. This guy is 38 yrs old playing major league ball with the best in the world. Your GH levels start falling after 30. The HGH is probably helping his recovery and allowing him to have a better chance of playing in his later years! As long as a doctor is regulating the HGH, there should be no issue here. GH in reasonable amounts is very safe.
Don't we want to see athletes play longer and healthier???? This is ridiculous. This is an important argument that needs to be brought to public attention.
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Maybe he is clean. he also got rid of that intestinal parasite and has put his juicing problems behind him.
I actually like Giambi, I think he's a good guy but there's no way he's clean. Without steroids he'd be what his brother was and in fact for half a season he was his brother.
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Its is very arguable if HGH has ANY performance enhancing benefits to athletes. This guy is 38 yrs old playing major league ball with the best in the world. Your GH levels start falling after 30. The HGH is probably helping his recovery and allowing him to have a better chance of playing in his later years! As long as a doctor is regulating the HGH, there should be no issue here. GH in reasonable amounts is very safe.
Don't we want to see athletes play longer and healthier???? This is ridiculous. This is an important argument that needs to be brought to public attention.
Can't you get HGH through your Doctor as hormone replacement therapy legally? I think getting it Fedex'ed to your house without a prescription is a different story.
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Yes, your right. But major league baseball probably prohibits GH from being used in any fashion. The stigma of GH needs to be dealt with and people need some education before getting all up in arms. All that he should be charged with is possession of a substance without a Rx. GH is completely different than steroids, but the public and the ignorant media likely does not know this.
Fact is with older athletes, they have falling GH levels and do not recooperate from exercise and injury as well. Replacing their levels back to what they were when they were 20 may help a lot of older athletes continue playing.
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Yes, your right. But major league baseball probably prohibits GH from being used in any fashion. The stigma of GH needs to be dealt with and people need some education before getting all up in arms. All that he should be charged with is possession of a substance without a Rx. GH is completely different than steroids, but the public and the ignorant media likely does not know this.
Fact is with older athletes, they have falling GH levels and do not recooperate from exercise and injury as well. Replacing their levels back to what they were when they were 20 may help a lot of older athletes continue playing.
Yeah, like me.......old
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Yeah, like me.......old
You're like a fine wine or an aged balsamic vinegar.
You're just getting better.
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Anybody care to speculate what MLB players or former players are on his list?
LOL...yeah, about 80% of the league. They were using "suppliments" when I was playing. It ain't no secret!!
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Explain to me how a batting coach helps a seasoned veteran who couldn't catch up to an 89 MPH fastball for half a season all of a sudden start bashing the ball?
He's clearly back on something and I'd bet real money it's HGH. And what's up with him sweating like a pig? The dude has a serious issue with his sweat glands. I wonder what could cause that.
Jason had a tumor in 2004 that interfered with him being able to play...lots of nasyy symptoms including blurred vision.
It took him a while to get his swing back.
Mattingly said that Giambi was overswinging which actually decreases bat speed.
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Jason had a tumor in 2004 that interfered with him being able to play...lots of nasyy symptoms including blurred vision.
It took him a while to get his swing back.
Mattingly said that Giambi was over swinging which actually decreases bat speed.
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You realize there's no Santa Claus, Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy don't you?
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You realize there's no Santa Claus, Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy don't you?
Im not denying that he took stuff...he admitted last year!!!! get with the times.
GH doesnt give a guy a .500 on-base percentage!
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Giambi is a good player and a good person - he admitted to using and cleaned up - he actually fessed up like a man and the fans respected that.
He was a bit shaky for a time but he has his rhythm back. Give the guy some credit
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Giambi is a good player and a good person - he admitted to using and cleaned up - he actually fessed up like a man and the fans respected that.
He was a bit shaky for a time but he has his rhythm back. Give the guy some credit
Yeah it took about three years or so to get his body back to working form.... Go Yankees!!
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Come to grips with reality.
Without drugs Jason Giambi is the same level of baseball player his brother is, with the drugs he's a whole different player.
The first half of last year you got to see what he can do without the drugs and no one liked it.
He's back on, deal with it.
I even like the guy, he's nothing like that jackass Bonds.
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Yes, your right. But major league baseball probably prohibits GH from being used in any fashion. The stigma of GH needs to be dealt with and people need some education before getting all up in arms. All that he should be charged with is possession of a substance without a Rx. GH is completely different than steroids, but the public and the ignorant media likely does not know this.
Fact is with older athletes, they have falling GH levels and do not recooperate from exercise and injury as well. Replacing their levels back to what they were when they were 20 may help a lot of older athletes continue playing.
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Reading this it seems to me we have a real dilemma here. If this GH stuff is a useful drug, without side negative effects and can enhance your being and has anti-aging properties it should be in a different classification than steroids. I think if this is the case that GH does have a definate stigma attached to it that may be hard to shake.
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Illegal immigration is a huge issue. Soon New Mexico, southern California and Texas are going to be a majority Mexican. These people will then vote. They will elect their own leaders. They will enact laws effecting all including non-Mexicans. Many Mexican Americans real allegience is to Mexico and not the USA.
you know, they use to say the same about the Irish and Italians.
There are many Mexican-American organizations who's stated goal is to reclaim the southwest for Mexico.
that is right wing propaganda.
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you know, they use to say the same about the Irish and Italians.
that is right wing propaganda.
No they didn't say that about the Irish and the Italians. We never took land from the Irish and Italians. They came from thousands of mile across an ocean like any other European immigrant. Use your brain. These lands were once Mexican territories that we took. And it isn't right wing propoganda. Its actually happening faggerty.
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No they didn't say that about the Irish and the Italians. We never took land from the Irish and Italians.
yes, the people of English descent already living in New York, Boston, and other places, complained greatly about the Irish and Italian immigrants, worrying about such people becoming a majority (could you imagine a Boston dominated by the Irish?), that such people would have more allegiance to the pope, etc., etc.
And it isn't right wing propoganda.
yes it is. there are no major or legitimate Mexican-American organizations who's stated goal is to reclaim the southwest for Mexico.
faggerty.
wow, I haven't been called that since 9th grade.
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is it just me or does all this baseball stuff seem like non-sense? I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
They should legalize steriods, make those of us who wish to use them, go to doctors, then at least we know it will be admintered in a safer more stable fashion, the gov. could tax it, pharm companies could sell more and bill insurance companies more... I mean, tell me the downside???????
Just venting...
Apparently, Congress has solved every other problem in the country, including violence in cartoons. So what else is left??
Who cares about the crack epidemic spreading across America, Steroids are worse. I mean I'd much rather see a 9 year old smoking crack and shooting heroin, than see him cheating in sports.
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Come to grips with reality.
Without drugs Jason Giambi is the same level of baseball player his brother is, with the drugs he's a whole different player.
The first half of last year you got to see what he can do without the drugs and no one liked it.
He's back on, deal with it.
I even like the guy, he's nothing like that jackass Bonds.
If you remember for a good portion of last season when he was struggling he looked like he had gained quite a bit of weight. He looks a lot trimmer and healthier this season. Maybe the growth helped him with his fat loss, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Wasn't the tumor in his pituitary gland last year? It would be dumb for him to temp fate again( if thats what is was of course).
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Its is very arguable if HGH has ANY performance enhancing benefits to athletes. This guy is 38 yrs old playing major league ball with the best in the world. Your GH levels start falling after 30. The HGH is probably helping his recovery and allowing him to have a better chance of playing in his later years! As long as a doctor is regulating the HGH, there should be no issue here. GH in reasonable amounts is very safe.
Don't we want to see athletes play longer and healthier???? This is ridiculous. This is an important argument that needs to be brought to public attention.
Excellent post.
The general public and media know little to nothing about HGH, so that's why this is even a story at all. The media guys are so funny because of just how clueless they are about HGH, its uses, and its benefits.
I'm one of those idiots who calls in to the sports shows about 3-4 times a year and it looks like this will be one of those times.
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Its is very arguable if HGH has ANY performance enhancing benefits to athletes. This guy is 38 yrs old playing major league ball with the best in the world. Your GH levels start falling after 30. The HGH is probably helping his recovery and allowing him to have a better chance of playing in his later years! As long as a doctor is regulating the HGH, there should be no issue here. GH in reasonable amounts is very safe.
Don't we want to see athletes play longer and healthier???? This is ridiculous. This is an important argument that needs to be brought to public attention.
It doesn't matter if it's safe or not, it's on the list of banned substances in the MLB!
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If you remember for a good portion of last season when he was struggling he looked like he had gained quite a bit of weight. He looks a lot trimmer and healthier this season. Maybe the growth helped him with his fat loss, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Wasn't the tumor in his pituitary gland last year? It would be dumb for him to temp fate again( if thats what is was of course).
He lost weight last year, he came into the season very lean.
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Nobody on this site knows whether Jason is juiced or not. Juice is a short cut, & if Jason is doing everything else right, he wouldn't necessarily need it to compete at top levels. For decades, baseball players did quite well without it. & Jason didn't get all his strength & stamina from a bottle, nor did Barry or Mark or Sammy.
As for Grimsley, his baseball career is over. & he's stopped talking to the feds. So far no elite athlete in the general sports arena has gone to jail for anabolic use. If Grimsley had been a competitive bodybuilder, he'd already be behind bars.
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Nobody on this site knows whether Jason is juiced or not. Juice is a short cut, & if Jason is doing everything else right, he wouldn't necessarily need it to compete at top levels. For decades, baseball players did quite well without it. & Jason didn't get all his strength & stamina from a bottle, nor did Barry or Mark or Sammy.
As for Grimsley, his baseball career is over. & he's stopped talking to the feds. So far no elite athlete in the general sports arena has gone to jail for anabolic use. If Grimsley had been a competitive bodybuilder, he'd already be behind bars.
Terrible example with Bonds, he was never a homerun hitter in his career until he started juicing. He sold his ability to run and field to hit homeruns.
As for Giambi, without steroids he was mediocre at best, his brother and his early career are perfect examples. When Giambi is on, he's and excellent power hitter, when he's off he's not. It's literally as simple as that.
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but this is nothing new. Olympic weightlifters were using anabolic steroids in the 1950s if not earlier. field athletes (of track and field) were using them in the 1960s. swimmers were using them in the 1970s. (Olympics first started testing for anabolic steroids at the Montreal games.) No reason to think that pro baseball, football and basketball players haven't been using them since that time. and we know that baseball pitchers were using amphetamines throughout the 1970s.
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Nobody on this site knows whether Jason is juiced or not. Juice is a short cut, & if Jason is doing everything else right, he wouldn't necessarily need it to compete at top levels. For decades, baseball players did quite well without it. & Jason didn't get all his strength & stamina from a bottle, nor did Barry or Mark or Sammy.
As for Grimsley, his baseball career is over. & he's stopped talking to the feds. So far no elite athlete in the general sports arena has gone to jail for anabolic use. If Grimsley had been a competitive bodybuilder, he'd already be behind bars.
I never even heard of the guy until yesterday.
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I'm a huge yankee fan,giambi is one of my faves he walked in the winning run the other night,i was sitting at the game and their was a redsox fan next to me .after the walk i ran over and turned around showed him i was wearing a giambi shirt the guy freaked and said he's a juicer,roids.fake.i said get over it he said he does have a good batting eye though.giambi could be back on he is hitting homerun's that ricochet back on to field after hitting the upperdeck,like in 01-02....
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Why is baseball such a popular sport? Where's the action??
There's plenty of action...but more so than that, it's a game of strategy. It's the best game ever played ;D!
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Illegal immigration is a huge issue. Soon New Mexico, southern California and Texas are going to be a majority Mexican. These people will then vote. They will elect their own leaders. They will enact laws effecting all including non-Mexicans. Many Mexican Americans real allegience is to Mexico and not the USA. There are many Mexican-American organizations who's stated goal is to reclaim the southwest for Mexico.
Let them have California and we can take Mexico in exchange.
The only problem I have with immigrants is that they can get lower-interest mortgages than those of us who've had to work hard to build up creditworthiness...that and the fact that they reproduce too fast.
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Illegal immigrants can't vote... only citizens can do that.
and only 1 in 3 do
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is it just me or does all this baseball stuff seem like non-sense? I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
They should legalize steriods, make those of us who wish to use them, go to doctors, then at least we know it will be admintered in a safer more stable fashion, the gov. could tax it, pharm companies could sell more and bill insurance companies more... I mean, tell me the downside???????
Just venting...
baseball brought it on themselves. Every other pro organization has phoney drug testing going on and baseball thought they were better then everyone....Imagine if pro basketball actually drug tested their players...I saw thing somewhere that stated that 80% of pro basketball players smoke weed :-\ that is huge....And imagine how many pro football players would fail a drug test...Like these guys aren't using anything...just silly...Base ball f cked up and we are all gonna pay for it...pricks
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Yes, your right. But major league baseball probably prohibits GH from being used in any fashion. The stigma of GH needs to be dealt with and people need some education before getting all up in arms. All that he should be charged with is possession of a substance without a Rx. GH is completely different than steroids, but the public and the ignorant media likely does not know this.
Fact is with older athletes, they have falling GH levels and do not recooperate from exercise and injury as well. Replacing their levels back to what they were when they were 20 may help a lot of older athletes continue playing.
GH is different then steroids? How so...Older athletes also have a drop in test levels as they get older....I have never met anyone that has used "real" GH, young or old whos body didn't burn fat like a furnance...Now most people as they get older store more fat in their bodies..That alone can cause a decline in athletic ability...GH for sure counter acts the fat loss...Their is no debate about that...
This whole thing going on with baseball was because they f cked Canseco...Black balled him...Although the guy was getting hurt quite abit, he was still a home run machine and easily could have started on over half of all major league teams....When he got fu ked, he spoke out in a way the baseball didn't see coming...These Elitest f cked themselves by not protecting their players....
When I 17 year old kid in high school can make an educated guess that this player is gasest up an that player is...Are we really to believe when they say " we didn't realise what was going on" Just stupid
Congress probably couldn't believe how stupid they were...Now remember these are guys who take pay offs every month of the year...And Jose f cking Canseco has to blow it wide open....It just pathetic....He should have been taken care of and let him play until he couldn't any longer....
Unfortunately we are all gonna pay for it....But i don't blame Canseco one bit...He was fu ked and he spoke out...Maguire showed what a pussy he was the day...And Shilling lieing like nobody in baseball is gassed up anymore is just a joke....The funniest thing about this whole thing is Roger Clemans...No one talks about his hormone therapy...Like it doesn't exist...Yeah every 40 plus year old guy gets in the best shape of his life and seems to get better every year....But then again like Jose said. Clemans is white :-\
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There's plenty of action...but more so than that, it's a game of strategy. It's the best game ever played ;D!
An exciting baseball game- bottom of the ninth, tieing runs on base go ahead run at the plate one out seventh game of the series. No sport has that kind of drama except baseball. The reason is that the game does move SLOWLY. You see things develop. Drama builds. The other sports are too quick for this kind of action to develop. Closest thing but still far behind in football is maybe the two minute warning and taking your team in for a touchdown using sideline passes, clock management and time outs to come from behind to win a game.
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Terrible example with Bonds, he was never a homerun hitter in his career until he started juicing. He sold his ability to run and field to hit homeruns.
No, buddy, terrible example for you. Bonds never juiced until he got jealous of McGwire nd Sosa homerun chase in 1998. He had already hit 30 or more homers 8 times through 98, three times topping 40. And his last 6 years thru 98 were playing his home games in Candlestick Park, one of the worst for homers, yet he averaged over 38 hrs for those six years. He would still have well over 500 homers without ever starting first andro, then real gear, and later HGH in 1999. He might even have 600 homers were he still playing today, although without the drugs, he could well have been unable to still play.
To say Bonds was not an all-time record breaking homerun hitter without the drugs could be valid.
But to say Bonds was never a homerun hitter in his career until he started juicing, is one of the dumber statements in Getbig History, as well as proving you don't know Baseball.
And no I am not a Giant's fan, trying to defend Bonds. I have been a Yankee fan since I was 5, and believe Giambi is clean. But I also know you could be right about him using GH again.
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How many times has Bond's hit over 50 home runs in a season?
The answer......1
One time. People make it out like he got on the juice, and then turned into a home run monster, hitting 70 homers a season year in and year out.
He had one big season, and after that, it was back to his "normal" home run out put....
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If that's your concern, then your problem is with legal immigration, not illegal immigration.
Illegal immigrants can't vote... only citizens can do that.
Doesn't work that way. The illegals have children by the boatloads and they are American citizens. They can then vote when they come of age. These children of illegals can enroll in school and are entitled to welfare and social services. The illegals will be grandfathered in as US citizens soon with the amnesty that is soon to come.
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Giambi is a good player and a good person - he admitted to using and cleaned up - he actually fessed up like a man and the fans respected that.
He was a bit shaky for a time but he has his rhythm back. Give the guy some credit
Jason was also the only guy in the Balco scandal or the investigation by the feds to actually come clean in public. that counts for something.
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No, buddy, terrible example for you. Bonds never juiced until he got jealous of McGwire nd Sosa homerun chase in 1998. He had already hit 30 or more homers 8 times through 98, three times topping 40. And his last 6 years thru 98 were playing his home games in Candlestick Park, one of the worst for homers, yet he averaged over 38 hrs for those six years. He would still have well over 500 homers without ever starting first andro, then real gear, and later HGH in 1999. He might even have 600 homers were he still playing today, although without the drugs, he could well have been unable to still play.
To say Bonds was not an all-time record breaking homerun hitter without the drugs could be valid.
But to say Bonds was never a homerun hitter in his career until he started juicing, is one of the dumber statements in Getbig History, as well as proving you don't know Baseball.
And no I am not a Giant's fan, trying to defend Bonds. I have been a Yankee fan since I was 5, and believe Giambi is clean. But I also know you could be right about him using GH again.
Good post. Bonds was a real good 35 home run guy for years. Great left fielder, great baserunner, good for 40 or 50 steals a year before he bulked up and became a one dimensional slugger. I think Giambi is clean too. He is a good guy who really seemed to be effected by the Balco thing. He seemed very sorry. Unlike the rest of the guys who said they didn't know what they were taking like Bonds and Sheffield. Or suddenly couldn't speak english like Sosa. Or a total fraud like McGwire.
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I like giambino a lot ,it is said he is great teamate.but p.r. can spin one way or other depending on how much you give them.giambi play's the nice guy and get's great press now.
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No, buddy, terrible example for you. Bonds never juiced until he got jealous of McGwire nd Sosa homerun chase in 1998. He had already hit 30 or more homers 8 times through 98, three times topping 40. And his last 6 years thru 98 were playing his home games in Candlestick Park, one of the worst for homers, yet he averaged over 38 hrs for those six years. He would still have well over 500 homers without ever starting first andro, then real gear, and later HGH in 1999. He might even have 600 homers were he still playing today, although without the drugs, he could well have been unable to still play.
To say Bonds was not an all-time record breaking homerun hitter without the drugs could be valid.
But to say Bonds was never a homerun hitter in his career until he started juicing, is one of the dumber statements in Getbig History, as well as proving you don't know Baseball.
And no I am not a Giant's fan, trying to defend Bonds. I have been a Yankee fan since I was 5, and believe Giambi is clean. But I also know you could be right about him using GH again.
Fantastic, where shall I begin with you, first I'll ask you to remove your fist from your balloon knot because apparently the pain is affecting your thinking, also typing with one hand doesn't seem to be your cup of tea.
First off genius, how can you tell me in one sentence that I have no baseball knowledge and in another sentence say I could be right about Giambi being on HGH? Do you see the contradiction there Einstein?
Second, Bonds was a five tool player, perhaps one of the best that ever played the game. He also never weighed more than 190 lbs. before he started juicing. Hitting homeruns wasn't really his forte. You following so far Mr. Hawkings?
While Bonds certainly had very good (not great) homerun power he wasn't known as a homerun hitter, especially in his Pittsburgh days. You still following Mr. Sagan? He was prized for his all around skills but not solely for his homerun hitting. On the opposite side of that spectrum is your chum Giambi who is pretty much known only for hitting homeruns and his OBP. That's why when your buddy Giambi is off the sauce, he's essentially useless.
During Bonds career (pre-steroids) there were always bigger and better homerun hitters, he wasn't considered in the list of top homerun hitters. He didn't have to be, his game was so complete that homeruns were only a small part of it. He was as likely to steal a base as hit a homerun. You still following?
Candlestick Park was 328' in right field, Bonds is a left handed hitter. Perhaps your genius level intellect can tell me why it would be so difficult for a left handed hitter to hit 330' fly balls there?
Please allow me to recap, while Bonds was a good homerun hitter earlier in his career he was no where near being the best. He was never a Babe Ruth style player, meaning one dimensional. He decided he wanted to be Babe Ruth. Did you follow there genius?
I love how you say I made one of the stupidest statements in Getbig history yet you spouted off that Bonds might have hit 600 homeruns if he never juiced. To even intimate that he might have hit 600 homeruns in his career without being on the juice is patently absurd. LOL
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During Bonds career (pre-steroids)
steroids have been around for a long time. MLB and the NCAA have only been testing for a short time. prior to testing, don't you think pretty much every college athlete hoping to make the pros in their respective sport or every minor league player hoping to make the majors had used some dose of some sort of performance enhancing drug?
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steroids have been around for a long time. MLB and the NCAA have only been testing for a short time. don't you think pretty much every college athlete hoping to make the pros in their respective sport or every minor league player hoping to make the majors had used some dose of some sort of performance enhancing drug?
Not in Bonds early days. During the late 90's and early 2000's yes, I think many used. Bonds was miniscule when he came up and during the early part of his career. I don't think college and minor league baseball players were aware of the benefits of steroids in the early 80's. Here are a few pictures of Bonds when he was with Pittsburgh and San Francisco and one present day picture.
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Giambi in 1993, Giambi when he played for Oakland, Giambi in May 2005 during the time he couldn't catch up to an 88 MPH fastball, his reaction times were terrible and the fourth picture is April 23, 2006.
Notice the size of his forearms in 2005 while he couldn't hit anything.
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LEGALIZE IT!!!! (weed that is ..hehehe)
hahahaha that makes too much sense...they would never do that.
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I love how you say I made one of the stupidest statements in Getbig history yet you spouted off that Bonds might have hit 600 homeruns if he never juiced. To even intimate that he might have hit 600 homeruns in his career without being on the juice is patently absurd. LOL
Oh really. Bonds ended the 98 season with 411 homers. According to the book" Game of Shadows" , he started on first Andro, and then later some deca and test. And then on to HGH. So he hit 411 homeruns while clean, averaging over 38 his last 6 years being clean.
So even if he retired before this season, and would have never started the drugs, he would have had to average 28 homers in these 7 seasons since 98 to just reach 600. This would have been 10 less than his last six years, so it would not have been absurd.
It was not probable, but I said it was possible. He would have most likely hit about 100 those next 3 years even clean, barring major injury. Now he also would of declined, instead of becoming a homerun machine when he turned 37. I am sure Bonds would have at least 550 hrs, without ever touching a drug. He would have still had to workout though.
Just because Bonds was a five tool player, does not mean he was not one of the best power hitters. Other than McGwire, Cecil Fielder and Brady Anderson were the only other players to hit 50 hrs in a season during Bond's career before 98, and Anderson's year was a fluke. Brady was probably on steroids. So Bonds hitting 30 or 40 some homers consistently was one of the best, especially then.
You said he wasn't a homerun hitter until the drugs. Just not true! Sorry!
Now, Bonds name was not the first to come to mind when you thought of pure power during the early to mid ninties, like it was from 2001 to 2004. One would have thought of Mcgwire, Conseco, Maybe Cecil Fielder of Fred Mcgriff. If that's what you meant when you said Bonds was not a homerun hitter, then you worded it wrong.
I do apologize for saying you know nothing about baseball. But even though Candlestick had a short right field porch, the wind in that place was terrrible, and notorious for robbing many homers. Yet Bonds hit 46 his first season there.
Actually, Fred McGriff is someome I feel sorry for. He retired with 493 homers, and will never get into the Hall of Fame. Without steriods, Palmiero, Sosa, and maybe also Mcgwire would have less than this total.
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is it just me or does all this baseball stuff seem like non-sense? I mean come on, doesn't the senate and house have more important things to convene on and discuss than baseball and steriods? We are at war, we have serious economic issues, gas prices, global warming, and Brad and angelina just had their baby......WTF?
They should legalize steriods, make those of us who wish to use them, go to doctors, then at least we know it will be admintered in a safer more stable fashion, the gov. could tax it, pharm companies could sell more and bill insurance companies more... I mean, tell me the downside???????
Just venting...
rhino, that's the first retarted post you've made
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Whatever Palmeiro was taking evidently wasn't doing much. He looked like a twig. As for Sosa-he sucked with or without steroids. He actually had the nerve to claim the reason he was skinny before stemmed from a bad tooth. Paraphrasing here but he said that as soon as he got his tooth fixed he was able to eat so much more that he blew up from 160 to 220 lbs. Riiiiiight Corky. You also weren't aware that you were playing with a corked bat.
As for Bonds-well he's just a cheater. Not that he is the only one but it's hard to respect someone who not only cheats but lies about it. I think the public would have much more respect for him if A.) He wasn't an egotistical jerk and B.) He was honest about his drug use. He would have hit a lot of homeruns regardless of his drug use but the facts of the matter are he still cheated. I really don't see how someone can expect others to be in awe of them when they know deep down they didn't break any record legitimately.
As for all this nonsense about how many homeruns Bonds hit per year...Hank Aaron never hit a lot of homeruns in one season either-at least compared to some of the numbers of this era. What signals all-time homerun success is 1.) Hitting a fair amount of homeruns consistently and 2.) not getting hurt over a long career
The good thing about the sport is that there are athletes still doing it the way of the old time greats. Hard work and sacrifice. In fact, the best player in the game today is clean. I know Albert Pujol's personal trainer and I honestly believe he's never touched a steroid in his life. It's a shame that he got injured this year or he may have broken Bond's homerun record* this year naturally. I do believe when it's all said and done tho he will be the all-time homerun leader.
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steroids have been around for a long time. MLB and the NCAA have only been testing for a short time. prior to testing, don't you think pretty much every college athlete hoping to make the pros in their respective sport or every minor league player hoping to make the majors had used some dose of some sort of performance enhancing drug?
Definately not.
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rhino, that's the first retarted post you've made
He is a pro bodybuilder. Of course he would be pro-steroid.
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As for all this nonsense about how many homeruns Bonds hit per year...Hank Aaron never hit a lot of homeruns in one season either-at least compared to some of the numbers of this era. What signals all-time homerun success is 1.) Hitting a fair amount of homeruns consistently and 2.) not getting hurt over a long career
Henry Aaron played a long time, he averaged 158 - 160 games per year. He had a huge amount of at bats lifetime. Maybe only less than Pete Rose and hit 35 to 40 dingers every year. That was his recipe for success. A long career, durability and consistency.
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We all should be talking about Palmiero. Something like 80 homeruns hist first 8 years then in his 9th season Canseco comes to Texas and Palmiero "magically" hits 45 taters.
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Whatever Palmeiro was taking evidently wasn't doing much. He looked like a twig. As for Sosa-he sucked with or without steroids. He actually had the nerve to claim the reason he was skinny before stemmed from a bad tooth. Paraphrasing here but he said that as soon as he got his tooth fixed he was able to eat so much more that he blew up from 160 to 220 lbs. Riiiiiight Corky. You also weren't aware that you were playing with a corked bat.
As for Bonds-well he's just a cheater. Not that he is the only one but it's hard to respect someone who not only cheats but lies about it. I think the public would have much more respect for him if A.) He wasn't an egotistical jerk and B.) He was honest about his drug use. He would have hit a lot of homeruns regardless of his drug use but the facts of the matter are he still cheated. I really don't see how someone can expect others to be in awe of them when they know deep down they didn't break any record legitimately.
As for all this nonsense about how many homeruns Bonds hit per year...Hank Aaron never hit a lot of homeruns in one season either-at least compared to some of the numbers of this era. What signals all-time homerun success is 1.) Hitting a fair amount of homeruns consistently and 2.) not getting hurt over a long career
The good thing about the sport is that there are athletes still doing it the way of the old time greats. Hard work and sacrifice. In fact, the best player in the game today is clean. I know Albert Pujol's personal trainer and I honestly believe he's never touched a steroid in his life. It's a shame that he got injured this year or he may have broken Bond's homerun record* this year naturally. I do believe when it's all said and done tho he will be the all-time homerun leader.
considering what happend to Bonds and his personal trainer, Do you really think Pujol's is gonna tell him anything......By the way in the D.Republic it was written that over 95% of all ball players were messing with performance enhancing substances....Albert Pujol's is on pace to smash Aaron's recorded if he stays healthy...The real question is like Cleman's will Pujol's be a protected player? Pujol's skin isn't light enough to be protected...So I just hope your right about him being clean or atleast stay one step ahead of the testing or we will see the same thing happen to Albert that happend to Bonds...
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No matter how much juice anyone takes, it still won't help the natural gift of being able to see the ball coming out of a pitchers hand and making contact. Bonds has this gift.
Juice will turn a 300ft routine fly out, into a 350ft homerun (should the ball been hit exactly the same...same parameters in other words). It will allow you to hit the ball harder.
But all of this is nothing without making contact. Ronnie Coleman might be able to hit a 600 foot homerun...but if he can't make contact it doesn't go anywhere.
Pujols natural? Yeah, and the Cubs have won the last 10 World Series due to Steinbrenners bank account. ::)
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Wombat,
There are a couple of things to keep in mind when it comes to Albert. 1.) Even tho born in the Dominican-he is basically a Kansas City product. All of his High School and Junior College baseball years were spent there. Some of the Dominicans have been known to take "speed" types of drugs. With Albert I would highly doubt this would be the case because none of the aspects of his game are built around speed. Just great hitting and solid defensive ability. 2.) His physique has never changed or even altered since his high school days. He's still moderately chubby unlike Bonds who went from stickboy to bloated boy within a short time period. 3.) Lastly, his numbers have always been consistent from day one. He hasn't had several years down in the dumps where he all of a sudden has a dramatic rise in homerun production unlike Bond's or even Sosa's homerun years.
As for Youngblood: Ignorance like this is the reason most pros don't like coming to this board. First off, he doesn't even know the person but makes dumb assumptions for the reasons I've already mentioned. Albert's trainer (who is the best in the business btw) has a long relationship with the player considering he was also the one who drafted him out of high school. Knowing the trainer personally I know what he stands for. He simply would never train or tolerate one of his athletes using illegal performance enhancing substances. He believes in integrity and making it to the top with mental toughness. Btw, he also trains Mike Sweeney of the Royals. This is another guy with Albert that you will never see come up positive for anything. The other aspect of Youngblood's ignorance that is so appalling is his admission that drugs would make the ball travel further but have no relationship to a player's ability to hit homeruns. He said himself that a ball would get extra feet tacked on when a juiced player made contact. Only stands to reason (regardless if a player has the "gift" of hitting the ball or not) that all of the homeruns would thus not be legitimate.
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No matter how much juice anyone takes, it still won't help the natural gift of being able to see the ball coming out of a pitchers hand and making contact. Bonds has this gift.
Juice will turn a 300ft routine fly out, into a 350ft homerun (should the ball been hit exactly the same...same parameters in other words). It will allow you to hit the ball harder.
But all of this is nothing without making contact. Ronnie Coleman might be able to hit a 600 foot homerun...but if he can't make contact it doesn't go anywhere.
Pujols natural? Yeah, and the Cubs have won the last 10 World Series due to Steinbrenners bank account. ::)
Nobody is arguing about seeing the ball and making contact, but GH is known to help eyesight immensely. That is huge right there. Plus balls to the warning track become home runs with the added strength and bat speed from the juice. Another big advantage. Another big advantage is the endurance these drugs give you.
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No matter how much juice anyone takes, it still won't help the natural gift of being able to see the ball coming out of a pitchers hand and making contact. Bonds has this gift.
Juice will turn a 300ft routine fly out, into a 350ft homerun (should the ball been hit exactly the same...same parameters in other words). It will allow you to hit the ball harder.
But all of this is nothing without making contact. Ronnie Coleman might be able to hit a 600 foot homerun...but if he can't make contact it doesn't go anywhere.
Pujols natural? Yeah, and the Cubs have won the last 10 World Series due to Steinbrenners bank account. ::)
their have been pro ping pong players that have tested postive for steroids...Tennis players have also...Its not all about strengh...Its all about bat speed...The baseball season is a long ass season and takes its toll of the players...Without greenies(as mention by not only Canseco but also the commissiner)it would change the game...Numbers would fall sharply esp. in the second half of the season...Some people are starting to wonder about pro golf players this day in age...They are hitting the golf ball well over 300 yard...Although the technology in golf has something to do with it, some say its not just that...They are getting into weight training ect...Now they don't have to look like they even workout to improve their clubhead speed from some steroids
I guess we will all know about Pujols in about 10 years...If his numbers don't decline then for sure something is going on....This day an age it has nothing to do with what the body looks like...Players are getting smarter...They know if they put on X amount of weight from 1 season to the next, they may be a target from the media...Roger Clemans seems to get a pass from the media...He is in better shape now then he was the first 10 years of his career...That just doesn't happen...But no one says anything....Smart players like Manny Rameriez from the red sox wear his uniform so baggy that unless your into bodybuilding and have a good eye you would never know that the guy is seriously put together...
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It reminds me of the state of the union address from last year when Bush said we have stop steroid abuse in the professionals sports. WTF, does that have to do with running the country? Drug wars fail.
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It reminds me of the state of the union address from last year when Bush said we have stop steroid abuse in the professionals sports. WTF, does that have to do with running the country? Drug wars fail.
Drug wars aren't designed to be won, they're designed for positive PR.
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I thought they were designed for revenue.
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LMFAO @ the "Feds" tracking down HGH to a MLB pitchers house, instead of focusing on real drug dealers, destroying kids lives, selling crack, etc...this place is going down the shitter fast... Europe anyone? :P
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I began competing at age 15 in 1984. Around 18 I was one of the better built guys in all the gyms on long island, especially for my age. I had MANY well known athletes asking me for advice and questions in refernece to using hormones. One guy was a pitcher for the NY Mets. If you were around the clubs in NY you would see them all and they all were using stuff. People need to wake up.....athletes have been using stuff forever. How anyomne can think Ben Johnson can break a world record in 84 and other athletes would just sit back and not begin to use is beyond me. WAKE UP AMERICA.
It's only cheating if no one else is doing it.
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Here is Bud Selig's "open letter to baseball fans":
Dear Baseball Fans:
Major League Baseball has had record attendance for two years running and may set another record this year. It's early, but pennant and wild-card races are competitive throughout our divisions. Baseball is enjoying a golden age of fan support and excitement. Our great game has never been more popular.
Yet, despite the good news in Baseball, there are problems. I was disappointed and angered by revelations that a Major League player had acknowledged using human growth hormone (HGH), a performance-enhancing substance banned by Major League Baseball, and had said that others were using HGH as well.
Seven-hundred-fifty great athletes play Major League Baseball. The overwhelming majority are hard-working, honorable individuals who play to win the right way. But among the seven-hundred-fifty, there have been and still are those who would cheat the game to gain an advantage. They hurt not only themselves, but they unfairly raise questions about the integrity of their teammates who play by the rules and they violate the trust placed in them by you, the fans. These players who use performing-enhancing substances offend all of us who care for the game and I will not tolerate their actions.
These individuals break the rules of baseball. But the use of steroids, human growth hormone, and other performance-enhancing drugs in this manner is also against the law. The investigative abilities of the F.B.I. are powerful and baseball players are no different than anyone else in our society. If you break the law, you put yourself at risk.
I am committed to protecting our game. The Office of Commissioner of Baseball was created nearly 86 years ago to ensure the integrity of America's pastime. I know my duty is to uphold that great tradition.
Last year Major League Baseball and its players agreed to the toughest drug testing and penalty program for steroids in all of professional sports. We are proud of what we have accomplished. We ban and test for amphetamines. And, human growth hormone is banned as well. We have cracked down and will continue to crack down on steroid users, but the use of HGH represents a threat to all sports everywhere.
Christiane Ayotte, the head of the Montreal Olympic testing lab, acknowledged this in an interview with "USA Today" last week. She said: "We know growth hormone is a problem. No sport is testing currently for HGH because (the test) is not available. If the test kit was available, it would only be effective for out-of-competition testing."
The writers of the "USA Today" story added that while there is a blood test for HGH, "...because antibodies necessary for the process are in such short supply, virtually no HGH testing is conducted. In addition, the test only detects HGH right after injection so it's impractical for in-competition testing. As a result, there never has been an HGH positive."
As Commissioner, I won't be deterred and will do everything I can to try to keep up with or even stay ahead of those who break the law and break our rules. But I suspect there will always be a few players who seek new ways to violate the rules, no matter how many we have and how often we toughen them. I also know that science can provide new ways to combat them and I will rely on our experts to keep on top of the science as it develops.
In the meantime, I want you to know that Major League Baseball is taking steps to address the issue. We are committed to funding a study of HGH and how to detect it. The study will be conducted by Dr. Don Catlin, a leading expert in the medical testing field. Also, we are willing to make additional contributions to fund other studies to determine how to detect HGH and are currently reaching out to experts in the field to ascertain what other studies can immediately begin. We invite other foundations, unions, sports and the Congress of the United States to join us in pursuing the detection and deterrence of HGH use.
The goal of Baseball is simple. It's a game that is to be won or lost on the field as a result of the natural talents of the game's remarkable athletes. I will do everything possible to make sure that this one goal can always be met.