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Title: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 12, 2006, 08:58:05 PM
sad but true, flame away.
Title: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 09:01:23 PM
Sorry, but you can't serve jail time for slander or defamation because they are civil offenses, not criminal offenses.

Any lawyer telling Kamali that Rob can spend time in jail for slander or defamation isn't a lawyer.

Stop worrying Rob, he has NO CASE. This was all hot air.

By the way, I love how he refers to himself in the third party. LOL
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: 240 is Back on June 12, 2006, 09:03:50 PM
dammit... I spent the last 2 hours preparing my various bodily orifices for prison servicing.

Wouldn't it be the ultimate irony if me and Titus ended up in the same cell at some point down the road?


*PS- they might call it a Louisville slugger, but that thing felt like the whole damn state of kentucky!
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 09:04:32 PM
dammit... I spent the last 2 hours preparing my various bodily orifices for prison servicing.

Wouldn't it be the ultimate irony if me and Titus ended up in the same cell at some point down the road?

Yes, it would but you aren't going there for committing slander or defamation.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: DAISUKE on June 12, 2006, 09:06:12 PM
He has no case, but he has guts.
Title: Re: 240 brought this down on himself...
Post by: 240 is Back on June 12, 2006, 09:06:33 PM
Sorry, I'm out of the loop.  What?

matt, you are going to love what went down this evening!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 240 brought this down on himself...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 12, 2006, 09:10:54 PM
matt, you are going to love what went down this evening!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats Rob, I think you've made inet forum history tonight :)
Title: Re: 240 brought this down on himself...
Post by: 240 is Back on June 12, 2006, 09:19:23 PM
lol, a King lawsuit against 240 is what I missed out on?
I was in the gym doing monster 1,000 pound 1 inch Pat Roberson leg presses for reps.


yeah, i knew you'd be loving it.  Save it, as the eggheads at muscletech or bbing.com will likely *request* it get taken down ASAP.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not crimina
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on June 12, 2006, 09:35:50 PM
But looking like this IS criminal.....

Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: Wombat on June 12, 2006, 10:19:57 PM
Actually you should go after Kamali for him threatening your life...That would be criminal...Then maybe Titus and Kamali could pose down together in their cell...
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 10:22:28 PM
Actually you should go after Kamali for him threatening your life...That would be criminal...Then maybe Titus and Kamali could pose down together in their cell...

He never threatened my life, just kind of a mild threat that he wanted me to say something to his face and then I would see the real King Kamali.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not crimina
Post by: thisiskeith12 on June 12, 2006, 10:27:17 PM
Talking is one thing, actually backing it up is another.

He talked about Titus, he should have fought him. He talked about Shawn, he should have fought him. He talks about 240, they shoud just fight too!
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not crimina
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 10:29:00 PM
Talking is one thing, actually backing it up is another.

He talked about Titus, he should have fought him. He talked about Shawn, he should have fought him. He talks about 240, they shoud just fight too!

I hate to be the voice of reason here, but after a certain age (18) fighting isn't the way to solve a problem. I can't believe you're advocating it.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not crimina
Post by: thisiskeith12 on June 12, 2006, 10:30:56 PM
I hate to be the voice of reason here, but after a certain age (18) fighting isn't the way to solve a problem. I can't believe you're advocating it.

Do you think King and some others act over 18?!
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not crimina
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 10:33:50 PM
Do you think King and some others act over 18?!

On the boards, no, but in real life I'd like to think they do.

Rob acts crazy on here at times but I like to think in real life he's a good guy, hell, Sarcasm is probably even a nice guy in real life. This is all just an alternative reality, taking it too seriously is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not crimina
Post by: thisiskeith12 on June 12, 2006, 10:38:58 PM
On the boards, no, but in real life I'd like to think they do.

Rob acts crazy on here at times but I like to think in real life he's a good guy, hell, Sarcasm is probably even a nice guy in real life. This is all just an alternative reality, taking it too seriously is just ridiculous.

Then don't take my fight instigations too seriously. I just think all this talk and threats is pointless. It's disgusting. It's pussy-like.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not crimina
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 10:40:40 PM
Then don't take my fight instigations too seriously. I just think all this talk and threats is pointless. It's disgusting. It's pussy-like.

Good point, I didn't take my own advice. I took your post too seriously.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: 240 is Back on June 12, 2006, 10:41:19 PM
Then don't take my fight instigations too seriously. I just think all this talk and threats is pointless. It's disgusting. It's pussy-like.

Initially King said he would beat me down.  When I informed him where a fistfight would likely lead, he had to back off that approach.  Then he decided to threaten with lawsuit.

Honestly, if he really had been tracking me for 6 months, I highly doubt he would have made violent threats at me.  If his plan all along was to sue, he obviously wouldn't give me that to use in court against him.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: gmflex on June 12, 2006, 10:44:19 PM
240..
 you should start creating one of your famous websites!!
That way kamali can continue to have a meltdown of epic proportions :P
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 10:44:29 PM
Ha ha defamation of character!!!!!!

And what distress will kamali claim he has endured civil court  from 240s parody's that he lists just as that. He has stated tons of times they where jokes and all in good fun. Not to be taken seriously. That right there negates your case off the bat. The attacks were not malicious champ. It is not illegal to do what he did. Ever hear of the first amendment. Or the  Larry Flint case?


HEY KAMALI WHO IS YOURE LAWYER THE SAME GUY WHO HAS BEEN DOING YOUR CONTEST PREPS!!!!! HAHA IF SO ASK FOR YOUR MONEY BACK YOU CAN INVEST IT ON SOME BEACH FRONT PROPERTY I HAVE FOR SALE IN OHIO.

O and by the way you threatening rob openly and privately in public prob wont help you're case Matlock AAAAHAHAHAH...
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 10:47:26 PM
Ha ha defamation of character!!!!!!

And what distress will kamali claim he has endured civil court  from 240s parody's that he lists just as that.


HEY KAMALI WHO IS YOURE LAWYER THE SAME GUY WHO HAS BEEN DOING YOUR CONTEST PREPS!!!!! HAHA IF SO ASK FOR YOUR MONEY BACK YOU CAN INVEST IT ON SOME BEACH FRONT PROPERTY I HAVE FOR SALE IN OHIO.

O and by the way you threatening rob openly and privately in public prob wont help you're case Matlock AAAAHAHAHAH...

It's incredible that he even said it on the radio broadcast. You'd think he'd be intelligent enough to know that slander and defamation are civil offenses and not criminal offenses.

Why didn't Chick or Soloman call him on that?
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 10:53:21 PM
It's incredible that he even said it on the radio broadcast. You'd think he'd be intelligent enough to know that slander and defamation are civil offenses and not criminal offenses.

Why didn't Chick or Soloman call him on that?

This is the best shit I have heard all night. Not only is it a civil matter. But Kamali would have to prove he was caused emotional distress over the issue. Had to attend counseling, marriage failed etc. Rob also stated several times that what he did where parody's which protects him under the first amendment of free speech. There was about as much IQ in that radio booth as a blue bus at 3pm on a school day.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: 240 is Back on June 12, 2006, 10:53:36 PM
Why didn't Chick or Soloman call him on that?

I think that tonight---

Even Chick knew to step back and let King dig his own hole.

Chick may have agreed with a lot of what he said- not liking me and all.

But Chick was a police office in the past.  HE KNEW King's claims of 'going to jail for talking trash on the boards' was BS.  Bob arrested people and spent years going to school for this stuff.  As Kamali made up his plans on the spot, Bob and Dan were speechless.  

Chick was smart tonight.  We're not talking about him.  And you know Shawn and CHick and half the BBing community are following this.  NOBODY is chiming in to defend KK.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 10:56:34 PM
I think that tonight---

Even Chick knew to step back and let King dig his own hole.

Chick may have agreed with a lot of what he said- not liking me and all.

But Chick was a police office in the past.  HE KNEW King's claims of 'going to jail for talking trash on the boards' was BS.  Bob arrested people and spent years going to school for this stuff.  As Kamali made up his plans on the spot, Bob and Dan were speechless.  

Chick was smart tonight.  We're not talking about him.  And you know Shawn and CHick and half the BBing community are following this.  NOBODY is chiming in to defend KK.

I still don't understand why neither of them just said "Actually, he can't go to jail for what he has posted".

It could have been simple and quick. Instead with Kamali constantly looking to Chick for confirmation it looked like Chick was in agreement. It made Chick look bad.
Title: Re: 240 brought this down on himself...
Post by: gmflex on June 12, 2006, 11:01:10 PM
This is great..
Kamali is having a meltdown..
I almost went to sleep.... :-\
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: 240 is Back on June 12, 2006, 11:01:23 PM
I still don't understand why neither of them just said "Actually, he can't go to jail for what he has posted".

It could have been simple and quick. Instead with Kamali constantly looking to Chick for confirmation it looked like Chick was in agreement. It made Chick look bad.

IMO- SOlomon just wanted it to end.  It was the one-year anniversay of his show, and King basically ruined it.  They had press releases made for the event- they were all over today.  It was a big day.  Thousands were listening worldwide.  Sponsors, other athletes, 40-year old, and 15-year old fans.  They sat thru a bitter and awkward display.

Chick had to have known immediately that King was lying.  He called my posts slander (slander is spoken- libel is written), his timeline kept changing, and he said I'd go to jail for this.  Bob Chick was a cop.  Bob knows that being outwitted in a back-and-forth exchange on the web does not a legal case make- much less something to send someone to jail.


If either would have called him on the error, it would have extended the awkward moment.  Their one-year anniversary show was very un-fun, very lowbrow, and just plain bad, IMO.  And I don't think you'll find many ppl saying this show was a success.  King just made it weird.   And they wanted to shoo him out the door.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 11:02:57 PM
Hahaha I wonder if the cops would look past Kamalis massive illegal drug use to slap the cuffs on Rob LMAO
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 11:05:03 PM
Hahaha I wonder if the cops would look past Kamalis massive illegal drug use to slap the cuffs on Rob LMAO

Apparently they're going to be knocking on his door. Kamali also backed out of revealing any of Shawn Ray's secrets even though he's the one that brought them up last week.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 11:07:05 PM
Kamali talked so much shit and acted like a cocky asshole and wonders why there was a backlash. I started a thread awhile back wondering why people where so hard on the King from a nuetral standpoint..... Now I can see why. The guys a ego maniac .

When he said he had a "case" and 240 had a "surprise" it reminded me off that guy in highschool or college that always lied out of his ass at any given chance lol.
Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 11:09:26 PM
Kamali talked so much shit and acted like a cocky asshole and wonders why there was a backlash. I started a thread awhile back wondering why people where so hard on the King from a nuetral standpoint..... Now I can see why. The guys a ego maniac .

When he said he had a "case" and 240 had a "surprise" it reminded me off that guy in highschool or college that always lied out of his ass at any given chance lol.

I figure on a conservative basis that 70% of what Kamali said was lies and 30% was truth.
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 11:15:19 PM
Haha we need our own show.  First guest Kamalis lawyer!
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: OneManGang on June 12, 2006, 11:23:06 PM
This 240 has been one of the front runners of the bullying and slander culture at getbig.com. Real athletes are getting bullied in a disgracfeul manner. 240s disgusting behavior after Bob Chics win in the masters was typical. I hope he gets sued and have to pay out his nose with costs. Remember that even hiring your own lawyer is going to ruin you.

Now hopefully when 240 is bankrupt and the other bullies have fled the forum, the serious fans can take back the forum.

Sue him, King!
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 11:29:28 PM
This 240 has been one of the front runners of the bullying and slander culture at getbig.com. Real athletes are getting bullied in a disgracfeul manner. 240s disgusting behavior after Bob Chics win in the masters was typical. I hope he gets sued and have to pay out his nose with costs. Remember that even hiring your own lawyer is going to ruin you.

Now hopefully when 240 is bankrupt and the other bullies have fled the forum, the serious fans can take back the forum.

Sue him, King!

 ::)

Did 240 steal your girlfriend back in high school?
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: OneManGang on June 12, 2006, 11:35:24 PM
::)

Did 240 steal your girlfriend back in high school?

I did not have a girlfriend in high school:)

The way 240 was almost stalking and trash talking Bob Chic was sick. And now he crawls for on his knees begging Bob Chic to mention the "threats" against him on the radio show. Why should Bob do this stupid stalker any favors? Now he faces the music and he squirms like a worm. hehehe
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 11:37:00 PM
This 240 has been one of the front runners of the bullying and slander culture at getbig.com. Real athletes are getting bullied in a disgracfeul manner. 240s disgusting behavior after Bob Chics win in the masters was typical. I hope he gets sued and have to pay out his nose with costs. Remember that even hiring your own lawyer is going to ruin you.

Now hopefully when 240 is bankrupt and the other bullies have fled the forum, the serious fans can take back the forum.

Sue him, King!

Bro if King sues 240 he will not only be humiliated when he loses. But broke from his own legal fees.
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on June 12, 2006, 11:39:00 PM
I must say, this is one time I'd like to have my old buddie 619Rules around. The dude knew the law and could put everything into perspective on this subject. The law is an odd thing, just defending one's self against baseless lawsuits ( is this one ) can give ya a world of headaches.


The Beef
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 12, 2006, 11:40:15 PM
I did not have a girlfriend in high school:)

The way 240 was almost stalking and trash talking Bob Chic was sick. And now he crawls for on his knees begging Bob Chic to mention the "threats" against him on the radio show. Why should Bob do this stupid stalker any favors? Now he faces the music and he squirms like a worm. hehehe

The only flaw is that he's got nothing to squirm about. That whole radio broadcast only made Kamali look worse. It also made Chick look bad because Kamali kept looking to him for confirmation. Chick could have distanced himself from that rhetoric but he chose not to.
Title: Dragging down the sport with lies, threats and unproffesional claims on radio
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 11:44:22 PM



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Title: Re: Dragging down the sport with lies, threats and unproffesional claims on radio
Post by: DragonsBreath on June 12, 2006, 11:47:01 PM
King was a let down!

with all this hype about him "exposing" shawn, all we got was a legendary meltdown on 240.

WTF?
Title: Re: Dragging down the sport with lies, threats and unproffesional claims on radio
Post by: body88 on June 12, 2006, 11:48:00 PM
I do not get these pros who walk around like gods gift to spandex and combat boots. But when they catch some flack on the internet they act like 2 year olds.
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: Tre on June 13, 2006, 09:29:11 AM

"This guy might actually serve jail time..."

Advice to King:  Get a new attorney...now. 

Title: Re: Hate to spoil the party but slander/defamation is a civil matter not criminal.
Post by: WOOO on June 13, 2006, 09:30:06 AM
dammit... I spent the last 2 hours preparing my various bodily orifices for prison servicing.



instant classic post,...  ;D
Title: Re: Slander/Defamation is a civil, not criminal matter!
Post by: jaejonna on June 13, 2006, 09:30:29 AM
All the while Bob is thinking ...hey I can sue tooooo, or wait maybe get sued ..dohhhhh...when Bob accused 240 of all that racist spamming not too long ago..