dont ask milos.. questions like these...
i recently pmed him askin him for suggestions on a fresh tri routine.. u know to shock things...
yo which he replied...
buy my dvd's.... or i charge$ 350 and hr
i stated i dnt live in the us.. and i have his first dvd....
then he got rude.. so i left it at that...
serves me right for askin him of all persons for arm advide anyway..
:D ;D
Mesomorph - with your permission I can post your PM's so getbig people could see HOW RUDE I REALLY WAS....
Milos !!!
Just wanted to say that you look awesome in that recent pic with your daughter!
can't wait for your comeback ;)
Milos, if you have proof that you didn't say the things Mesomorph is saying you did then I don't think you need his permission to defend yourself, just post the PM's.
He attacked your character if you have proof that refutes that then you don't need permission.
Milos !!!
Just wanted to say that you look awesome in that recent pic with your daughter!
can't wait for your comeback ;)
the nutrition is awsome!! very easy to understand and also very interesting. You will find that Milos talks about the different bodytypes in the DVD and how some people need alot of carbs and some need alot less. Protein though is always high! for bodybuilders especially. higher for the people on low carbs. Me personally when im getting ready for a show will take in all my carbs with meal 1 and post workout. Offseason i will take in anywhere 700-1000g carbs spaced over 7-10 meals. Protein precontest is at least 400g going up to 500g and offseason 300-350g.And it has a great effect on you belly.
And it has a great effect on you belly.shut up asshole.
shut up asshole.
Luke & Milos, what do you think about Mentzer saying he usually took in 80-100g of protein per day, eating cake and ice cream the week before the Olympia?
He obviously wasn't b/s'ing to sell supplements and had an Olympian physique. Just insane genetics?
Also, how do you take in 700-1000g of carbs per day bulking? Are you drinking alot of them?
I don't think Milos should be expected to give free advice though. That's how he makes his living, why would he do for free what he gets paid to do?
Milos,
So is it safe to say I will not have my questions answered as you have gone back and forth with everyone on here except the person / I who started this thread.
Why are you so fucking negative?
Calm down man, and stop insulting Milos!
;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mike,
Glad you chimed in. Can you send me copies of your food /exercise journals and make some motivational audio tapes? I'll gladly pay for the postage ;) ;D
Negative? LOL...How was I being negative? I started this post asking 2 simple questions and it turned into a battle between Meso and Milos? I'm just pointing out the facts....
Well then jsut dont go around telling everyone how cool you are and that you have on numerous occaisions given free advice. At least shawn sticks to his story, buy my dvd... he doesnt give out free info, then tells people to buy his time... mixed messages
BUY MY DVD!
I agree he shouldn't give free advice to some and make others pay. And his reasoning for charging Meso was rather arbitrary (sensed something in his message) but Milos does make a living giving advice and it's his choice who he makes pay and who he doesn't.
Ultimately though, Shawn Ray's way is better, everyone pays.
Sorry Mesomorph,
Just like Sarcev states, the problem is that You started out a little over-assumptive. As if Milos is automatically obgligated to answer your PM. And when Sarcev didn't answer, you reacted like he did something wrong. Just because a pro posts on this board, it doesn't mean they should automatically answer anyone & everyone that e-mails them.. I DON'T !!
I delete dozens of e-mails every week without ever answering them ( and I'm a NOBODY). I'm sure MESOMORPH does the same thing. ALL OF US receive e-mails every single day that we simply ignore / delete because we simply DON'T HAVE THE TIME to respond. And if Milos answered your e-mail, you would probably have e-mailed him again with another question. ANd this happens dozens of times every day to a BB of his level.
You guys have NO IDEA how many people approach Sarcev for autographs, pictures, questions, stupid questions. The man is VERY tolerant & patient with people. In fact, I e-mailed Milos a few years ago trying to give him some advice about BB.. It was a real stupid e-mail (I was f--ked up on Crystal Meth at the time). He e-mailed me back, thanked me for my opinion, and he told me I had a nice physique. Milos went above the call of duty by even responding to my e-mail. And he was exceptionally nice & understanding.
MESO-You wouldn't be able to respond to every e-mail if you were in Milos's shoes either. And if you felt that someone was being pushy, you certainly wouldn't drop what you were doing & give them free advice. Milos only has 24 hours in a day also. He is NOT a prick, he is a pro-athlete that is VERY VERY busy.
Did MESOMORPH donate $$ to Milos when he rupturd his quad in 2002 ? Did MESO send money when Milos needed help during his legal battles ? I would say "Probably Not".
MESO simply started off on the wrong foot with Milos. ANd it rubbed Milos the wrong way a little bit. Milos decided he did not want to spend his time answering an e-mail from a total stranger, who ALSO EXPECTED a prompt-FREE of charge answer. And Milos has the right to do that. We all do.
You wouldn't expect a doctor or a lawyer to give you advice for free
being a personal trainer is a profession (you have to get certified)
if we gave everyone who asked free advice we would be out of business (plus it takes up so much time)
Milos has got to make a living..............
that being said he could have easily suggested a few different exercises for Meso
(what i do is "whet there appetite"....give them just enough info that they need more)
it is a tough business.............eve ryone wants everything for free
So the advise that you got from people regarding your prep for your show, how much did you get charged for it?? Im sure with the attitude of "everyone wants somthing for free", u paid a great deal for all the info you got. right? But then again im sure you didnt have any questions at all to ask people that have already competed.
Milos, my car is making a knocking sound when I drive over 60 mph. What is wrong with it. Also my cat has been vomiting a bit lately. Would you recommend antibiotics? Oh, and my genitals seem to "stir" whenever anyone mentions competitive strategy.
What would you recommend for it?
I use alot of vitargo post workout.Hey what brand vitargo do u use?----I've only ever used the Nutrex one with creatine in it...I did like it but it was expensive and I dont want creatine in it. Does Art Atwood make one?
he wasted more of his $350/hr time than he would have if he'd just answered the question
i didn't think of this side of it. Almost like Milos spent $350 worth of his own time to hurt his own reputation. Brutal two-story self ownage.
Yes, ironic that Milos went out of his way to post some PM's that made him look bad. By the way,
Milos, I have an xbox 360 and I can't decide if I should Buy "Call of Duty 2" or wait until July and buy "Prey." Which would you buy?
Sorry Mesomorph,
Just like Sarcev states, the problem is that You started out a little over-assumptive. As if Milos is automatically obgligated to answer your PM. And when Sarcev didn't answer, you reacted like he did something wrong. Just because a pro posts on this board, it doesn't mean they should automatically answer anyone & everyone that e-mails them.. I DON'T !!
I delete dozens of e-mails every week without ever answering them ( and I'm a NOBODY). I'm sure MESOMORPH does the same thing. ALL OF US receive e-mails every single day that we simply ignore / delete because we simply DON'T HAVE THE TIME to respond. And if Milos answered your e-mail, you would probably have e-mailed him again with another question. ANd this happens dozens of times every day to a BB of his level.
You guys have NO IDEA how many people approach Sarcev for autographs, pictures, questions, stupid questions. The man is VERY tolerant & patient with people. In fact, I e-mailed Milos a few years ago trying to give him some advice about BB.. It was a real stupid e-mail (I was f--ked up on Crystal Meth at the time). He e-mailed me back, thanked me for my opinion, and he told me I had a nice physique. Milos went above the call of duty by even responding to my e-mail. And he was exceptionally nice & understanding.
MESO-You wouldn't be able to respond to every e-mail if you were in Milos's shoes either. And if you felt that someone was being pushy, you certainly wouldn't drop what you were doing & give them free advice. Milos only has 24 hours in a day also. He is NOT a prick, he is a pro-athlete that is VERY VERY busy.
Did MESOMORPH donate $$ to Milos when he rupturd his quad in 2002 ? Did MESO send money when Milos needed help during his legal battles ? I would say "Probably Not".
MESO simply started off on the wrong foot with Milos. ANd it rubbed Milos the wrong way a little bit. Milos decided he did not want to spend his time answering an e-mail from a total stranger, who ALSO EXPECTED a prompt-FREE of charge answer. And Milos has the right to do that. We all do.
I always like to say my own opinions but i agree 100% with this post! it was put very well!Could you type it again ?
I also get alot of pm's and emails abut training and nutrition. Now i will answers questions like, howmuch protein should i take in, or what should my BF% be before i stat dieting for a show or what 3 exercises in my opinion build best back thickness, i anwers these with no charge, but this also being my full time job, doing personal training, training programmes, diets and contest prep. So if it a training programme, diet, contest prep and even 1\2 doz questions on something than i charge. My fee is not as much as Milos's but than again im not in Milos's area of expetise to charge that much. I charge what i think im worth. Do i think $350 os worth Mios's time! Absolutely! I have yet to see anyone walk away from 1 hr with Milos (he alot of the time spents alot more time than 1hr as well) and not have more than enough knowlegde that you would get from 5 or 6 personal training sessions at $100\hr. So yes i don't think its a very good deal. As i said the I spend 1hr with Milos 3 weeks before the NY show in 2005 (argubly my best ever condition) and that 1 hr allowed me to come in the way i did. I had little knowledge on the correct way of loading and coming big, full yet dry!
nothin to do with modesty... its true...
mi bi's rule my tris...
if i have great bi's.. is it a crime to say so?...
dont u have a great bodypart?
Well no I don't think I have a great bodypart.
No offence but if I said I have great biceps, they would be pro material.
If I wanted to say that my tris are too small for my biceps, I would simply say that my biceps overpower my triceps and make them look small.
Jeez, bro, it's milos sarcev, not the flipping president of the united states.
Since when do you have to consider and reconsider your phrasiology when talking to a bodybuilder of all people?
He could have been a little more respectfull, but, c'mon man.
What kind of retard pays $350 for personal training? Actually anyone who hires a personal trainer at all is a retard unless they're beginners.
For Getbiggers, lets please keep this post on track for a change. Thanks.
Milos,
Since my "Anyone have Milos' new DVD" got way out of control I am starting a new one..
I went ahead and purchased the DVD.
Watched the Nutrition section which was great; I started the diet 8 days ago.With the amount of Carbs you recommend, am I supposed to feel/look flat?
Thus far I have watched Ab, Ches, Tricep and Delt training......Perhaps I missed this part but what do you recommend for set / rep numbers?
Thanks in advance for your response....
Thank you.Milos, I remember seeing in 1987 at a gym in San Diego, I can't remember which one. You looked huge and stood out even then. Were you living in San Diego or just visiting at the time?
I am far away from looking awesome - but I appreciate your comments and compliments.
I will step on the stage ONLY IF I can be better than ever...and I am working on it...
Due to my various business activities I cannot be 100% focused on competition - and because of that my preparation suffers (I train with full intensity but I am not eating enough...and that is huge problem).
While in all my competitive years as a pro (1991-2003) I could easily prepare for ANY show with 6 week notice - this time it is not realistic...
While I am lean enough to be able to be ready in 6 weeks - I am simply not big enough...
Winning only one out of 72 IFBB pro shows that I have entered means that I am not necessarily competing to win...I compete to accept the challenges I put in front of me - and my challenge for my next show is - TO BE BETTER THAN EVER BEFORE...Not winning, placing or anything else...it is simply improving...
Milos, I remember seeing in 1987 at a gym in San Diego, I can't remember which one. You looked huge and stood out even then. Were you living in San Diego or just visiting at the time?
i gotta side with Meelos on this one. He even offered a $ back guarantee.
Milos,
So is it safe to say I will not have my questions answered as you have gone back and forth with everyone on here except the person / I who started this thread.
In the DVD you mentioned a story about 2 ppl in a gym both doing bench press. 1 was doing fairly light weight but had a Pro Chest and the other had an OK chest but was putting up some serious weight. You sat down and chatted with 1 or both of them. Did they charge you for their time?
Beleive me when I say I understand that you need to make a living and being a personal trainer/consultant is how you do it but when you were up and coming did your role models charge you for their advice? To answer 1 or 2 questions is 1 thing but if someone comes up and bombards you with 50 questions that is another...
Just an observation. Again I am not flaming or taking sides..
Have a great day!
Also, when numerous fans attack me (for no reason) - that is perfectly OK and understandable but when I "show my teeth" to someone - than I am jerk, prick...a..hole - or whatever else you (getbig members/ bodybuilding fans) have called me so far?
To be honest, I don't think meso was trying to be a jerk. But it was wrong to keep asking Milos if he was going to respond to his pm.i worked with luke for my last show,he is great to deal with!i learnt more from this contest prep than all my others combined.
If he does, he does, if he doesn't, he doesn't. He's under no obligation and it's wrong to try to make him look like he's blowing him off on the thread. It was a pm, if he wanted a public exchange, he should've asked him in the thread.
I agree with Luke about the trainer and quality of one.
But I can say this to Milos and Luke, for some of us that have been training for years and are advanced, but not necessarily competitive, it isn't easy to find someone who is a straight shooter and will help.
I paid an IFBB pro to "train" me, all I really wanted was nutritional and supplement knowledge and I may as well just flushed my money down the toilet.
The guy was nice enough, but short and curt, agreed with everything I was doing nutritionally and supplementation wise and just told me to cut some calories.
Well, I'm no guru, but I pretty much had all of that figured out myself and was hoping to have someone help me take the next step, but that was all he had to offer. I kept trying to pick his brain, but it was all one sentence answers with no information different than I was already doing.
I don't know it all, so I just assumed the guy really wasn't providing much help and left it at that.
I wouldn't mind consulting with Luke or Milos, but honestly after flushing money down the toilet, I'm not in the mood to flush anymore, because this guy had a great rep too.
So Milos, Luke, don't be offended if people are approaching cautiously.
To be honest, I don't think meso was trying to be a jerk. But it was wrong to keep asking Milos if he was going to respond to his pm.
If he does, he does, if he doesn't, he doesn't. He's under no obligation and it's wrong to try to make him look like he's blowing him off on the thread. It was a pm, if he wanted a public exchange, he should've asked him in the thread.
I agree with Luke about the trainer and quality of one.
But I can say this to Milos and Luke, for some of us that have been training for years and are advanced, but not necessarily competitive, it isn't easy to find someone who is a straight shooter and will help.
I paid an IFBB pro to "train" me, all I really wanted was nutritional and supplement knowledge and I may as well just flushed my money down the toilet.
The guy was nice enough, but short and curt, agreed with everything I was doing nutritionally and supplementation wise and just told me to cut some calories.
Well, I'm no guru, but I pretty much had all of that figured out myself and was hoping to have someone help me take the next step, but that was all he had to offer. I kept trying to pick his brain, but it was all one sentence answers with no information different than I was already doing.
I don't know it all, so I just assumed the guy really wasn't providing much help and left it at that.
I wouldn't mind consulting with Luke or Milos, but honestly after flushing money down the toilet, I'm not in the mood to flush anymore, because this guy had a great rep too.
So Milos, Luke, don't be offended if people are approaching cautiously.
Well, I know alot, I've been around a long time, but I'm always interested in a different approach to make improvements. If I was perfect, I wouldn't seek any information.
You may be right, his theories might have been pretty consistent with mine for the most part, but to be honest Milos, when you're consulting with someone who has reached the top of their sport, I was expecting a little more than cutting calories.
Really? 14,000? I'm feeling a bit exposed now...
(aside: how ironic for Milos to give you a 1-liner answer, after u complain about ur last trainer giving all 1-liners...doh!)...and about that pro, might look for one whose a bit more deep (and higher IQ). Even if they don't give you a specific answer, giving multiple possible answers is always helpful, imo. So like when you ask: "What should I do w/ my diet?" Rather than say "Eat fewer calories...duh, omg you're a moron ::)", someone whose deep(er) would say "Eat less to cut up, eat more to bulk up, eat cleaner to gain energy and clear up your acne, increase your potassium to help with your cramping, drop your zinc and up your C to prevent colds..."
See, you aught to hire me! ;D
drop your zinc and up your C to prevent colds
Dood: "drop your zinc and up your C to prevent colds"
1. Drop your zinc
2. Up your C - to prevent colds
And zinc...eh, I've heard both sides of that argument. And zinc can be easily overdosed...anyhow, wtf? that wasn't real advice...it was a show, a play, an example, a role-playing event. bleh.
14,000 people read this every single day...feeling naked now?
Hey cool! When I was a kid, I was diagnosed with knocked knees too!
#1) Train every body part ONCE a week
#2) Choose 4 exercises for each muscle group and do first two exercises (3 sets each) for "fast twitch muscle fibers" (for size, growth...hypertrophy) using heavy compound moves and failing between 6 and 10 repetitions per set.
Than choose two more exercises and use any of the advanced training principles where you would hit both - fast and slow twitch fibers - performing reps higher than 10 per set...(drop sets, super sets, giant sets...etc)
#3) As far as amount of carbs that I reccomend - certainly it depends on your goals and your present condition...
Check that nutritional DVD again and I hope you'll realize WHAT I really reccomend.
It is safe to say that YOU also feel I need to immediately respond to you - as you just asked me the question...
Doesn't matter that I am maybe on my vacation (first in the long, long while) - I simply MUST answer the fan immediately - otherwise I am an ungrateful IFBB pro who doesn't care for bodybuilding fans...
Also, YOU need to explain to me that I should give answer to anyone who asks me - and answering one or two questions is one thing but 50 questions is another...
Do you know how many people I have answered 1 or 2 questions that after first two asked me 3rd and 4th question...and after they got the answers they asked another 2 (or 20?)...
Just login on my board and see HOW MANY questions I have answered...
Better yet - how many hundreds of questions I have answered FOR FREE ...
Or come to my gym and see what will happen IF you join the gym and decide to ask me anything...
I am also here on this board for one reason: FOR FANS...or you are all suggesting that I have some interest in posting here...or some financial benefit?
Also, when numerous fans attack me (for no reason) - that is perfectly OK and understandable but when I "show my teeth" to someone - than I am jerk, prick...a..hole - or whatever else you (getbig members/ bodybuilding fans) have called me so far?
Milos, First off thank you for answering my questions. If you revisit the time line/chain of events for this post, I was a little perturbed. From the time I posted MY message, you had posted 4x regarding Meso's PM to you as well as responding to compliments etc from other members, thus totally overlooking the original question.
Unfortunately there are alot of blatantly rude idiots on this board and nothing can be done but in the same regard there are also alot of people like myself that respect what you guys do. If you look at any of my posts, this one included I have never once said anything derogatory or negative about you or for that matter, any other Pro, Amateur etc on this board.
I did set up an account on your personal website trying to research the answers to my questions but was unlucky in finding answers. I am not saying they weren't there, I just couldn't find it.
As for your gym, I would love to join but unfortunately I am in Florida, the commute would be unbearable.
In closing, I wish you all the best Milos.
Milos, slow twitch muscle fibers have no potential for growth. They are not a muscle fiber you train for growth. Four exercises for a muscle group is way to much, particularly for small muscle groups such a biceps, triceps, or even shoulders. Remember, stimulate, not annilate
But, YOU reacted TYPICALLY to many fans...
After asking the question you were offended that I didn't respond immediately...or I choose to put someone else ahead of you.
Than - you also found necessary to give me your point of view that I SHOULD BE NICER...and answer the question(s) of the fans (as once - long time ago I was also asking others and didn't have to pay for the advice... ::))
You say - you didn't say anything derogatory - but read your post...Anyone who gives me advice that I should be nicer - is telling me what?
That I am not nice...therefore I am WHAT?
You call that respect?
Not just respect but love as well?
Wow - start dissrespecting and hating me from now on...I just might like it...
maybe you should ask Ronnie over at the prosource forum...he has more than 1 win.
Milos, I reacted like a typical fan? Perhaps, but what I call it is courtesy. When you are at a party or in Public and someone is standing in front of you asking a question do you turn your back on them to adress another person about a measly argument of he said she said? Probably not and this is how I viewed it. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong.
Again you have your viewpoints and I have mine and it seems we are at an impasse. I am sorry this has gotten out of hand. I realize that you are a business man and obviously need to make money. In the future if I have questions I will either
A) Search your board
B) Send you a check for your time as well as a list of questions
C) Sought out another resource to answer my questions
Again enjoy your trip to Aruba. Enjoy your time with your lovely wife and family.
Milos was rude to me too... :(
1- Yes, you reacted as a typical fan - as I said not just that you request my question but you want it NOW...If I would not respond immediately - I am not courteous?Sweet Jesus, Milos. Don't you wish you could have just thrown him a couple of exercises!? Would have save yourself a lot of trouble. ;D
2- "When you are at a party or in Public and someone is standing in front of you asking a question do you turn your back on them to address another person about a measly argument of he said she said?" - YES, IF OTHER PERSON TALKS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF JERK I REALLY AM - SO I WOULD CETAINLY LIKE TO FIND OUT THE REASON WHY AM I BEING CALLED JERK - BEFORE I ANSWER THE QUESTION OF THE PERSON STANDING IN FRONT OF ME - AFTER I TELL THAT PERSON THAT I WOULD GLADLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION - IN FEW MOMENTS....AFTER I FINISH SOMETHING THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME.
3- Interesting how everyone (you included) have no problem jumping on me and giving me advices and telling me how wrong or rude I really am (for not stopping everything that I am doing and immediately responding to fans question as after all - I OWE THEM THAT FAVOR and I assume I owe them forever?)...and when I criticise you (typical fan remark) you are being offended... ::)
4 - If you have questions - you can do ANY of above mentioned things or simply ask - and be patient...
Why don't you post your PM's to me as well?
alexxx
Getbig IV
Hey!
« Sent to: Milos_Sarcev on: May 21, 2006, 08:18:38 PM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
Milos I kid I give you mad respect for accomplishing so much in whats now debatable as a sport.
On which I responded with:
You call that respect?
Alexxx I want to make mad monkey love to
your sexy 20 inch pythons!!
Sweet Jesus, Milos. Don't you wish you could have just thrown him a couple of exercises!? Would have save yourself a lot of trouble. ;D
???
btw thanks for banning me from your forum for absolutely no reason but I can still view. ;)
Alexxx, keep it real and don't make the messages that I didn't send.
You are crossing the line.
How about you keep it real by actually answering one of my questions?
When you deserve - maybe I will...
But speaking of that - what question did you ever ask?
ok well I see that you went back and modified your last post. Does it make you feel better being able to ban somebody for a harmless post?
Women are no challenge for the great Alexxx. Actually men are not even on the same scale. So what makes you think, Milos that you a mere simple man can challenge the great champion?
I did not ban you - my moderator Antonio did - and he had his reasons to do just that.
What was your "harmless post"?
When you can write STUPIDITY like:" Alexxx I want to make mad monkey love to your sexy 20 inch pythons!!" and make it look like I said that - you are capable of many other things.
This can be serious matter and that's why I warned you that YOU ARE CROSSING THE LINE!
come to my gym to find out your real place in life.
Milos if your so smart then why dont realize Alexxx's angle and leave it at that. Hahahaha wait you need to prove a point , i almost forgot... ;D ;D
OK, I will withdraw with ANY conversation with you - as you are obviously pathetic excuse for a man...
If you ever grow up and find the courage to see how great Alexxx really is - come to my gym to find out your real place in life.
And here comes partner in crime - another castrated Amigo with great sense of humor...
Jae - as with Alexxx - I will talk/respond to you only after you come for the biggest challenge of your life: coming to Koloseum to beat 125 pound woman in curling competition...
How am I pathetic? Just because i speak my mind and don't believe in injecting asteroids into my brain? I am all natural and soon will surpass the built of the great Steve Reeves. Then i will start winnning show after show all in the while being natural and laughing at you trying to play catch up. But don't worry I mean that in the nicest way.
and don't believe in injecting asteroids into my brain?
Allexxx is a dipshit.
Thats why he's been on timeout form this board on a couple occasions & he's working towards it again
::)
knny is jealous of alexxx. hahahaha
kind of the other way around.....where do you think he got his avatar from?
Alexx is somewhat annoying, but Milos, why the hell are you arguing with him like that?
He is making stupid jokes all the time, just ignore him.
That 'you made it look like i wrote it' is really pathetic, nobody would believe you wanted to make mad monkey love to alexxx 20' python. :-\
Yes, he is beyond annoying but I always try to look for good things in people and try to make them better...;D Your too nice .... Im a big fan !!
After all he did send one PM where he actually said RESPECT...and I sent him back PM to think what kind of respect he is really giving me...
But, as far as NOBODY WOULD BELIEVE that I wrote that - you'll be surprised...
As I had serious problem before - I told him that he is crossing the line - one thing is joking and other thing is presenting false message from someone who never wrote that message, like the time that I told Jaejonna that he should not come to my gym and beat my wife in the challenge that I changed around once I found out he could win...
;D Your too nice .... Im a big fan !!
Milos was born in outerspace Alexxx..... thats why after he talks people are like ...EARTH TO MILOS EARTH TO MILOS , ANYBODY OUT THERE ...
hahhah (high fives all around)
Milos was born in outerspace Alexxx..... thats why after he talks people are like ...EARTH TO MILOS EARTH TO MILOS , ANYBODY OUT THERE ...
hahhah (high fives all around)
MAN!! a few of you guys are just hasbeen's or wannabe's!! Alex, i know you are just talking BS when you say to look better than the great Steve Reeve's! i just truly hope you don't beleive that! but it would'nt surprise me! and you guys are applaude the comments by this jerk are just as bad! THE GREAT ALEXXX!! THE GREAT A-HOLE is what you are! ;D
Post some pics tough guy or big man!! i post pics all the time! i have maybe more weakness's than strengths, but i can admit it!! you say you are so great! lets see! of course we won't because you are ALEXXX the GREAT! who was gay anyway. There will only ever be one Sarcasm here, so don't try and be a puppet!
You make me laugh!! you expect sensible answer and you say "No one is a match for the Great Alexxx" LOL!! what a load of BS! you have had your hand on it too long Alexxx the Great! or too many of the wrong hands on Little Alexxx! ;D
You say yo are Natural! great good for you! but why put shit on Athletes who are not?? do you realy think you could stand on the same stage as me and be clean or any other pro! Steroids are a very unfortunate thing in all sports, buy they are here thats life! no one is pitting on shit on the natural guys, so why should say anything about the DARK SIDE! ;D
Your comments to Milos is just F$%#^! ! but man if you can find one picture of yourself that makes you look better than myself or Milos than produce it! im no MR OLYMPIA but you sure as hell sound like it!
ALEX THE GREAT!! LOL!!! Get over yourself!!!
one day bro! one day! ;)
Looks like the Luke bit off a little more than he could chew and decided to hold his tongue.
wow alexxx owned luke in that pose well done alexxx your upper body is almost the size of Luke's leg
LOL!!! no ALEXXX, i was out doing my PT! LOL!! please tell me this is'nt a picture of you!!!!! Please tell me this is'nt the Great Alexxx!! Oh man!! you are talking trash and you look like this!!! ;D ;D ;D. Now normaly i would say, "you look good bro, keep up the good work!" , but we are talking about "MR NATURAL", "I will be better than Steve Reeves"!! What a joke! Alexxx, honestly, now i know you are just joking! i mean no one could talk as much BS as you about how great they are and than produce a picture like this! I mean you just look like an avergae guy who trains a few days per week, which is fine! but after what you told all of us, i thought i was going to see something like at least 250lbs and 5% BF, not this 200lb boy who would be lucky to be 10% maybe 12%!are you saying that if loving the cock was dollar bills that alexxx would be the US Mint, Luke?
When you get out of the aerobic room, than talk some more! ;D ;D ;D, sorry to be disrepsectful Al, i just cannot contain my laughter! ;D ;D ;D
I did not ban you - my moderator Antonio did - and he had his reasons to do just that.
What was your "harmless post"?
When you can write STUPIDITY like:" Alexxx I want to make mad monkey love to your sexy 20 inch pythons!!" and make it look like I said that - you are capable of many other things.
This can be serious matter and that's why I warned you that YOU ARE CROSSING THE LINE!
Luke you are going to be my towel boy. I just promoted Milos to waterboy. At least he knows that I have a very respectable physique and bigger arms then both of you.
Yeah good come back ::)Mr Wood, How much steroids do you use a day ?
Mr Wood, How much steroids do you use a day ?
Did Milos told you that the side effects may result
in brain injury, I mean permanent neurons disfunctions ?
Who invited you here DISLIKE! sorry DAISYDUKE or is ILOVELUKE??
No Milos, did'nt tell me these side effects. I already read about them before i met up with Milos, so it was something we did'nt have to waste our time talking about. ;D
One of my friends use to study in Australia. He told me Luke is very famous there. Some guys there use to say that Luke was on 6 grams of testosterone and 4 grams of Deca. When I first heard it; it seemed; but after reading Jay and Dorian’s cycle (in other boards) he wasn’t off track at all.
i think it's way too much.
add some GH to that, but cut some grams of roids.
We'll never know for sure anyways, unless Mr Wood choses to comment on this personally, which he won't.
I think we can say for save that he abuses steroids. ;D
i for one think that he's worth every penny and having worked with another ifbb pro before , i'll gladly spend 350 for one hour and probably give his family some tennis lessons for free...he just seems like a really nice guy.
Mr Wood, How much steroids do you use a day ?
Did Milos told you that the side effects may result
in brain injury, I mean permanent neurons disfunctions ?
One of my friends use to study in Australia. He told me Luke is very famous there. Some guys there use to say that Luke was on 6 grams of testosterone and 4 grams of Deca. When I first heard it; it seemed; but after reading Jay and Dorian’s cycle (in other boards) he wasn’t off track at all.
Are you sure they were talking about grams or could it be pounds...kilos...etc?
It is interesting to know how everyone knows what pros are doing - Dorian, Jay, Luke...etc
hmm...
bet i dont seem so bad now... huh milos...
....
anyway y'all carry on....this thread = eye opener
Mr Wood, How much steroids do you use a day ?
Did Milos told you that the side effects may result
in brain injury, I mean permanent neurons disfunctions ?
Pros hate when you ask them things about steroids cause (most of them) ...they want to appear that they never took a steroid in thier life and are against it... like when Dex won the Arnold for his first time ..hahahahaha....
Jaejonna, my promblem is you guys expect us on an open forum to discuss these things. Firstly, its obviously stupid if any pro does this for obvious reasons. Secondly, i think it a personal question to ask someone when you don't know them or have even meet them. When i get asked these questions in the gym , it is 99% by people who i have never meet before or even know. My response is "do you always ask personal question to people you don't know"! These 99% however are just being idiots and trying to get a dig at you. But i never deny anything, i just don't talk about it to people i feel don't need to know my personal business. Plus if something is obvious than why ask?? for example. If you see 2 guys walking down the street hand in hand, do you run and say "Hey aare you guys Gay?" are do you just use your common sense? ??? ::)
Besides that, i don't need to tell, you guys have already posted it? except it was actually in pounds ;D
When people ask me about it I tell them the go to the source, in this case Mishko!
People are joking when they ask you this. Like I always ask my 160 lbs friend: how many grams of test are you taking to be huge like that ?!
sorry to break your illusions alexxx
You know what they say... you are the sum total of your friends.
What ? you like the cum of your friends ?
that's disgusting ! :-X
Oops I forgot.. I am using "fancy words" I will try to translate it into quebecois! Esti de tabarnaque de qualis de st-.... toi et tes amis sont des tapette! :-*bouahaha
bouahaha
do you speak french in everyday life or only english alexxx ?
Why its useless!
For someone who claims to be a physician, you sure aren't very intellingent.I do not claim I am a physician. I used to be a surgeon, that s all.
First of all, you would realize that hormone ingestion would not result in brain injury.
Secondly, you would know that "disfunctions" is spelled DYSFUNCTION
And thirdly, you would surely realize that a neuron is nothing but a nerve cell. Neurons are not specific to the brain.
But, your horrible use of grammar and punctuation above supersedes any of those choices as proof that you're not a doctor.
I do not claim I am a physician. I used to be a surgeon, that s all.
And I say it again, hormone ingestion during a large span of time
may resulti in brain dYsfunction (forgive my spelling). A large variety
of dysfunctions.
In fact, do you know that a specialist can tell if someone has used
steroids regularily after doing a PET (Positron Emission Tomography)
scanner of the brain ?
Usually, PET images show the chemistry of organs and other tissues
like tumors, but PET is also useful in diagnosing cardiovascular
and neurological diseases because it highlights areas with increased,
diminished or no metabolic activity, and as a result showing problems.
In the case of the brain, it can illustrate areas where brain activity differs
from what is called the norm.
Well you live in montreal and the majority of the population speaks french so it isn't really useless.
Personally, I wish I could be a little better in english cause it's an awesome language
alex= tranny with dick up its own ass
Then get an english girlfriend you doof!
My first gf was english and I tought it was pretty cool. I like girls that speak english.
but she was a freak... not in a good way :-\
For some reason I though she would be. ;D
You did claim that you ARE a surgeon. So, don't back track.I used to be a surgeon, but I am 65 years old and I stopped to do surgery 10 years ago.
But, a PET scan is hardly valid in diagnosing cardiovascular disease. Don't look up the first diagnostic tool you find in Google, and pretend you know what it does.
I would be very interested to see the research on PET scans showing steroids to cause brain damage.
If you're saying that you can see decreased fucntion of the thyroid, or decreased output in the anterior pituitary, this is FAR different than damage. A down regulation of endogenous hormone production due to exogenous intake is entirely different than BRAIN DAMAGE.
hmm...
bet i dont seem so bad now... huh milos...
....
anyway y'all carry on....this thread = eye opener
Pros hate when you ask them things about steroids cause (most of them) ...they want to appear that they never took a steroid in thier life and are against it... like when Dex won the Arnold for his first time ..hahahahaha....
Hmmmm
You seem just as bad as you did first time...
Mr. "GREAT, GREAT biceps"...and Mr. "not expecting anything for free"...Having 30 training DVD's in collection and REALLY wanting my advice - but only IF it comes for free and from my mouth...Otherwise - getting the DVD and finding out from me that way - is NOT the option...(therefore you've convinced me that you are sincere and only have a "simple question" that REALLY matters to you...)
MESO - I saw through you after your first post - and everything I saw - you confirmed it and continuing to confirm...
Besides everything else - AFTER NOT getting my advice for free - you couldn't wait to tell others what kind of "jerk" I really am...
So here is in detail my explanation of how and why I am being labeled as "jerk"...
To add - I will never change... ;D (as I am proud of who I am).
So what makes people think Milos or any other pro will give you hints for free ?
On one hand it`s their profession, so they have to earn money and on the other hand why should he give an advice or anything he had to work for for years ?
By the way, if you really want to become better with the help of a pro, that doesn`t work via internet anyway.
He has to talk to you, see you, know your training routine and nutrition. The more he knows, the more he can help, but surely not for free.
Me and I´m by far not successful Milos was, nevertheless I got E Mails almost every day with questions about everything, so you can figure out how many mails Milos gets.
By the way, if you really want to become better with the help of a pro, that doesn`t work via internet anyway.
He has to talk to you, see you, know your training routine and nutrition. The more he knows, the more he can help, but surely not for free.
So what makes people think Milos or any other pro will give you hints for free ?
Umm well the Pros that actually do lend help or advice for free. ;D .
Skip La Cour says other wise. He can do it via internet
http://www.skiplacour.com
Chad, Hany and Aceto called. They all had one word, sued.
How much charges Skip or gives he advice to everybody who writes him an e mail and insists on an answer ?
There is no wiser man in all of bodybuilding training, nutrition & supplementation than Skip La Cour.
I have his DVD- he actually narrates - overdubs- and talks through the whole thing, and the guy is so fluid with knowledge and examples that it'll just blow your mind.
There might be guys that work with pros that know how to get guys super dry. There might be guys who can put a needle in your ass and put 50 pounds of mass on you in a year. But there is no one I've ever spoken to, that knows more than Skip.
Go ahead, tell them who.........
I think milos was right in this one.
also, i think if skip used gear, you'd see his shoulders and thighs blown up way bigger than they were. something about receptor zones and number of cells in those areas, but when a guy starts using, those are the two regions that are telltale signs. He has some insane discipline... I think it's very possible he never used.
I'd rather not say cause if the people on here know which Pros give advice for free they then may decide to charge and then where would that put me. I would start looking like 240 instead of Mike Arvilla
Skip La Cour says other wise. He can do it via internet
http://www.skiplacour.com
Aww man, I was interested to know who, I need some advice.
Jack, PM me and I'll let you know ;)
Alexx is there any board you have not been banned or suspended from?
Jack, PM me and I'll let you know ;)
Alexx is there any board you have not been banned or suspended from?
Milo's board :'(
Actually... the guy doesn't have a sense of humour.. :( I am banned but I have ways to go back and mess it up for all them haters!! hahahaha ;D
just join on a different server 8)
What is receptor zone?
240 believes skip is natural. Aint life funny
well skip admitted that he used drugs in the early years but then stopped; and he says he is natural now
I believe I can recall Skip admitting to using pro-hormones at one time (when they were sold over-the-counter). If memory serves me correctly, he said he stopped using pro-hormones before they were reclassified and no longer OTC.
But I don't recall him ever admitting to using actual steroids, GH, insulin, IGF-1, or any other scheduled / prescription only bodybuilding type drugs. In fact, he has always adamantly denied using any of these ever, as far as I can recall.
Do you have any specific links or literature of him admitting to such drug use?
milos milos milos....
calm down... u are still rehashing this?
me stating in my post i have great biceps was to illustrate the point to you that they over power my tris.......
you my friend are reading everything wrong.... me askin on the thread if u got my pm... wasnt to harass... you .. i genuinly honestly wanted to know if i got my pm...
and yes i have lots of bb dvd's that i buy
so...
how does me sayin i have great bi's...
and i have 30 dvd's make me a jerk...
look im not an inernet thug.. nor do i have time for internet games....
i SERIOUSLY genuinly asked u a question for GENUINE advice.. i was not if u think trying to knock u in anyway at all... and the more u type.. the more i see that u do think there was some ulterior motive for me commenting on my arms NO wrong
i asked you for advice,... you got rude.. i got rude simple...
i have good arms.. i only seeked... information from a veteran... type in triceps in the search engine.. and 80% f those threads u will see my name on
u not helping wont make me lose size.. me askin was just icing on the cake....
im not losing sleep....over it mate.... neither are you....
so.....
drop it... you keep brigin it up doesnt shine u in a great light....afterall im just some faceless... guy on the net... you are a pro... its a no win.. crusade...
thanks for your help...
peace...
meso
Meso, meso, meso...I am calm to the point that I can fall a sleep in no time...
I am only ALWAYS making a point when I try to say something...that's all.
Yes, you are faceless somebody - but I chose to answer faceless person's question...as I do all the time.
If you read what I said - I clearly made the point so I would not repeat myself.
I was NOT being rude...not in my book.
And as you said: "i SERIOUSLY genuinly asked u a question for GENUINE advice"...
did you genuinely consider getting the DVD that would genuinely answer your serious question?
I offered you even money back guarantee. Money that I would not even get from you - but I would guarantee to give you back IF you don't get your answers!
As I said - I am dealing with many fans for many years - and I know how to react when I sense something like I did with you.
To say it again - I was 100% right on assessing you...and as you see I have no problem exposing my rude behevior to "respectful fan"...
BUY MY DVD!
u make a valid.... point rocket.... but counter point... how can i show gratitude for what i had not recieved...
meso, in the past you have mentioned that where you live, talking trash between guys will result in one being beat up or severely hurt very quickly, almost always.
maybe your way is just to be more abrasive than others are used to.
Are you saying that mesomorph intimidated milos?
nope. i'm saying that meso is usually very abrupt, brief, direct, and often posts with a tinge of expectancy. Milos may have seen that as the guy being demanding. Usually when you email anyone in any field for a favor, you say something nice, ask for their opinion/answer to the Q, then either offer a service of your own should they ever need advice, or wish them some good luck competing or whatever in the coming season.
pleasantries... that's the word, I think. meso seems to bypass these. Milos might have been taken off guard by this. Plus, Milos is probably one of the top 10 men in the world in his field, and he must get a dozen questions a day.
So you are saying that milos was scared to answer meso's question in fear that meso might surpass him?
absolutely. milos is trying to hold down those who are blessed with increible biceps and aren't afraid to let a pro know.
absolutely. milos is trying to hold down those who are blessed with increible biceps and aren't afraid to let a pro know.
Oh man i have heard it all now!! i cannot even comment on this one that how's ridiculos it sounds! Even beyond that! ::) ::)
Morning 240! :)
240 that baby is mad cool.
Sup luke,
now that you are here I have some suggestions:
3 weeks out and coming close to the ny show, you looked great, super good. But at the show I think I know what exactly happened, you lost confidence. Through your poses and your routine, your head was down and you were shaking, and you were just casitng a shadow on yourself. Big Luke Wood, if you get your confidence up, and act like its your show, I don't there theres anyone stopping you (with the exception of a few) in a couple years.
Keep up the good work.
Urinary Tract infections in men are much rarer than women - you should ask your doctor why this happened to you.
Hello Jeff mate. Right now just taking it easy and will step it up again in a few weeks. Got a bit of the flu right now. Im sitting on 126kg right now.hope you can get it all together for the oz show,next year!!will be there to support you for sure.and i will for sure be working with you next years southern hemisphere.i am hungry to improve!
Thankyou! I do have an anwser and i never make excuses, just the truth. I posted on Milos's board as i was asked the same question. Even up until 1 week out if you see the pictures. I could'nt have been more happy.a week out i came down with a Urinary Tract infection!! It was extremley painful and something i have never experienced! Trying to practice my posing during the week was very hard and certain poses were just to painful to do! I was very upset as i was in the shape of my life and win, lose or draw i knew i was going to be at my best and thats all i can do. I had to use antibiotics early in the week and they seemed to help but it was still painful. Than when i arrived in NY and started drying right out, the pain was unbearable because the worst thing you can do with this type of infection is stop drinking water, but i was determine to get on that stage and i know alot of guys would have pulled out but i just could'nt do that. Back stage i was contantly rubbing my lower abdomen as it was bloated and sore. I would pump up for a few sets and sit down, pump up and sit down. I knew after Pre-juding i was out of the 10 and i was very upset, not at the fact i was getting the callouts i wanted but because i knew how great i was looking before i got sick. Trying to hold poses on stage was extremely painful and as a result my confidence went out the window and thats why i appeared how i did. Milos was trying his hardest to help me stay tight on stage but he also knew i was hurting big time. It was hard for Milos as well, because he also knew i was in my best shape ever before this. Im not saying i would have made top 5 or even top 10, but i know i would have been in much better shape and been able to give the judges alot better look at the real Luke Wood. Well next time.
Thankyou for asking and i hope this answered your question.
Milos....
trust me.. and you could bet ur house on it.. you are very wrong..... and took what i said wrong....
...because i said i have great bi's means im disrespectful???
....
easy now..
getting your dvd.. i said i have ur first dvd.....
i dont think the weider suppliers in the uk has ur new dvd... or battle for olympia 2005... which i am waiting for...as yet...
i really dont see why u keep bringin this up....
you belive what u think ... i i will stick with what i know... you can be as rude as u like.... doesnt affect me... my family, money .. food.. and pussy.... if u are not messing with these... whatever else u do is...pointless... you arent messin with any of the above.. so.... being rude.. is not only unecessary.. but bad press for you...
mmmm anyway
btw..
i read ur article in new flex about giant sets.... good stuff....
mmm wsup rocket...
u make a valid.... point rocket.... but counter point... how can i show gratitude for what i had not recieved... though i digress ... my message could be misinterpretated..
but trust me im the last person to demand anything.... I asked... just for something to refresh my tri training...
hmmmmm..either way milos was rude.... and that is a given....
milos you were a great bodybuilder, and now you are a bodybuilding 'guru' and a lot of the pros depend on you, so you know your stuff. I don't want to intefere and what not but i've followed this thread and this is what I have to say,
ok you've made the dvd, and we all know about it becasue its all over bodybuilding.com, your site, and you are advocating it all the time (which you should be!). But just because someone is asking for advice it doen't mean you have to always respond with 'Buy my DVD, that'll give you info'. Not everyone has the money, or wants to pay 30 dollars for bodybuilding information, that's why they've joined this site so they can ask those kind of questions to the pros like you....Or watch a couple of your segments on the fitshow.. Just because you've made a DVD, for money or what not, it doesn't mean you can't answer peoples questions with serious responses like you would in the DVD. Its not like your going to lose money by helping people, a lot of people do help for free, not everyone has 350 dollars to hear your advice. Infact answering questions FOR FREE with real answers might even boost sales.
Thats all i gotta say,
all the best Milos,
latrell.
...But also I have no problem putting some people in their place - just like I did with MESO...(who absolutely never expects anything for free ::))
How did you put him in his place? He asked a question, you didnt answer, he asked why, you said you have special powers that senses when people are up to something, he just thanks ok, you continue to diss him, thus furthering your reputation as a world class jerk. So where in all of that did you put Meso in his place ???
Where??
You continue to make yourself a prick, over and over an over and over again.... Just dont answer anyones questions, comments, ect....that is my suggestion.
If you need help on a new bicep regimen for your upcoming return to the stage you can PM me anytime... well get you to 18 inches...maybe ...
Milos can sense things, the Force is strong with him.IT\ts probably some left over synthol swishing around in his skull.... :-* :-*
How did you put him in his place? He asked a question, you didnt answer, he asked why, you said you have special powers that senses when people are up to something, he just then said 'thanks ok', but you continued to diss him, thus furthering your reputation as a world class jerk. So where in all of that did you put Meso in his place ???
Where??
You continue to make yourself a prick, over and over and over and over again.... Just dont answer anyone's questions, comments, ect....that is my suggestion.
Plus, if you need help on a new bicep regimen for your upcoming return to the stage you can PM me anytime... well get you to 18 inches...maybe ...
Enjoy life a little, it will do wonders for how you interact with people...... try it sometime
Milos can sense things, the Force is strong with him.
Well...it is called common sense...and I have plenty of that.
You are PERFECT example of someone that DOES NOT deserve my help or respect... ;)Milos coming off the top rope with the atomic elbow for the three count. ;D
"Your place is in the basement where you are continuing to hide..."
:D
milos is too nice to answer these stupid comments,,i wouldnt even pee twards their direction
Jaejonna thank you for exposing me as a prick and asshole some times I say things without thinking them through... I will let you read this then I will have to delete what has been written. Im sorry Im too proud sometimes.... i let pride get the best of me many times before , this is such an occasion...
Here is another brilliant observation...
Just because...just because...
#1) I taped segments of the FITSHOW FOR FREE - to help all the bodybuilding fans around the world.
Fitshow was featured FREE OF CHARGE on bodybuilding.com
#2) I allowed FITSHOW to tape the show at my gym (not just my segments) for free - and came to the gym on my days off - just so I can give FIRST CLASS INFO to ALL the bodybuilding fans (did I say - for free?)
#3) Only when I realized that FITSHOW guys (Chapman group) is in financial trouble I suggested to them to make the DVD - and sell it - so they can get some finances to continue what they are doing (read - give great FREE show to bodybuilding fans...Including the broadcast of several IFBB pro shows).
#4) For that reason also I am very much ready and willing to help FITSHOW guys sell as many DVD's as possible - to support their business.
Besides I think DVD is absolutely worth having - and on top of everything else - I GAVE THE MONEY BACK PERSONAL GUARANTEE.
I don't remember offering my "True bodybuilding" video...instead I offered "Secrets of the pros" DVD...
For your comment - not everyone has the $30 or wants to pay that much for bodybuilding information...For those who don't - it is their choice...
For those of us who charge for that kind of service it is our choice to decide IF we are willing to give that service for free to some people.
I happen to give free advice most of my life - and I enjoy doing it...But also I have no problem putting some people in their place - just like I did with MESO...(who absolutely never expects anything for free ::))
Thankyou guys for your comments on the pics i posted!! there are alot of good people here and continue to post here for them!
There was a question about my chest training. I have posted this before, but i do it again here. Up until 12 mths ago my chest was probably my biggest weak point! It still needs some more thickness, but it has improved 100%! I was always very strong in chest, but it would'nt grow like it should or how i wanted it to. My delts seem to growing crazy but not chest?? Milos and i spoke about this and last year he said "lets do chest toether". From the first 2 or 3 sets of bench press, Milos found the promblem!! my chest was not expanding and just staying relaxed throughout the whole workout! therefore i using every other muscle to lift except chest! i would still get a pump before but not like this now! I was bringing th bar to low and not keeping my elbows out. There was not stretch. I was just lifting and not contracting! Milos taught me half the weight how my chest will explode in 12mths doing this technique. With only a light weight (2 plates, max of 3 plates) suing this technique how keeping the chest flexed throughout the whole rep and bring the bar high and elbows out has made me put alot of size and thickness to my chest and has really helped make my whole upperbody look into proportion with my lower body. I do this way with all my chest movements. Bench press, incline barbell, flat bench flyes, seated machine fly machine and cable cross overs.
Rare, but they still happen. And how could the doctor possibly know how it happened? He probably can tell what type of bacteria it was though. Most often it's a colon bacteria. How colon bacteria got there is Luke's little secret... ;)
I wouldn't bet my house in ANY CASE but in your situation I was (am) 100% on the mark.milos milos milos...
You are proving that with each and every post.
Who are you to tell me that my head is in the clouds, that I need to calm down, go easy...etc...
On top of that - that I am rude?!
As it is more than obvious - I keep posting here as I don't find ANYTHING that I am doing or saying - remotely rude.
I am putting you in your place (if you didn't notice).
I never said you are disrespectful by saying that you have great biceps. How did you come up with that?
However, I am saying that you are full of yourself stating that you have ANYTHING great.
Much better man would NEVER say that...as confident people do not need to brag about how great they truly are.
***You kept insisting that I didn't answer your PM - like I owe you that answer - and I am obligated to do it as quickly as possible (as you kept reminding me that I still didn't answer your PM >:(...
***After suggesting that you should get SPECIALIZED DVD that answers EXACTLY concerns that you are asking me (specific exercises to stimulate specific parts of particular muscles - including TRICEPS) - you requested that YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM MY MOUTH!
Again - like I owe you that.
***Upon letting you know that I would give you money back guarantee if you find my DVD anything less than satisfactory and knowing that you have LARGE collection of training DVD's I figured I am asking someone who already has a habit of purchasing training DVD's (not someone who NEVER did that) - and you refused it it was MORE THAN OBVIOUS to me what is going on here. And you confirmed that over and over again...
***So I am more than happy getting all this "bad press" (as you are suggesting). To me this is EXACTLY what I want everyone to know about me - as this IS me. I have no problem helping thousands of people whom I chose to help - and also I have no problem letting some people (like you) know that I will NOT help them as I simply don't think they deserve my help.
You are PERFECT example of someone that DOES NOT deserve my help or respect... ;)
milos milos milos...
who am i to tell u to get ur head out the clouds calm down etc etc....
i am a man just like u..... or is it because ur a pro.. then u dont think.. a lesser being should address u so...correction...i am a man just like u.... u are not better than me... be both eat drink... piss and shit....just because i ask u a question... in a subject in which u are a pro.. doesnt mean im inawe f u... or i need to bow down to u...if u are rude to me... any being.. Bar almighty god...i will tell u to get over yourself.... the whole money back guarnatee i didnt even read that... i stopped reading what u were pmin.... closely... after u were rude.... i can tell u every excercise you did on the first dvd... also i can tell u word for word... your speech at the bfto 2004 press conference.. previously to that u.. made a brief cameo in bfto 2001... where u pulled a funny face as the camera paned unto you.... just in case u u think im lying I have no problem purchasing any dvd..... as i have stated i own a large collection.... ur first included... ok lemme clear something up.. i wasnt askin for help per say.... my arms are fine.... i was askin for suggestion same as i would ask anyone... who i think could throw a spanner in the..whole routine.... week after week... in fact i have asked many members on here.... what they do for triceps.. regardless of what level they are on... so please.... lean back. i see that u will not let this drop until it gets really disrespectful.... but i wont go that route with you... although i could......pointless waste of time... plus internet tough guy im not... argueing is for females.... i dont argue... so this is my last on the subject.... u can assume what u will of me... i dont care.. as long as I know what my intentions were thats all that matter...
peace meso
So you are saying that touching your chest with the bar isn't a good thing ? ???
No problem Milos, you are a great champion and even better man for recognizing your mistakes..Take Care God Bless ;)
milos milos milos...
who am i to tell u to get ur head out the clouds calm down etc etc....
i am a man just like u..... or is it because ur a pro.. then u dont think.. a lesser being should address u so...
correction...
i am a man just like u.... u are not better than me... be both eat drink... piss and shit....
just because i ask u a question... in a subject in which u are a pro.. doesnt mean im inawe of u... or i need to bow down to u...
if u are rude to me... any being.. Bar almighty god...
i will tell u to get over yourself....
the whole money back guarnatee i didnt even read that... i stopped reading what u were pmin.... closely... after u were rude.... i can tell u every excercise you did on the first dvd... also i can tell u word for word... your speech at the bfto 2004 press conference.. previously to that u.. made a brief cameo in bfto 2001... where u pulled a funny face as the camera paned unto you.... just in case u u think im lying
I have no problem purchasing any dvd..... as i have stated i own a large collection.... ur first included...
ok lemme clear something up.. i wasnt askin for help per say.... my arms are fine.... i was askin for suggestion same as i would ask anyone... who i think could throw a spanner in the..whole routine.... week after week... in fact i have asked many members on here.... what they do for triceps.. regardless of what level they are on... so please.... lean back.
i see that u will not let this drop until it gets really disrespectful.... but i wont go that route with you... although i could......pointless waste of time... plus internet tough guy im not... argueing is for females.... i dont argue... so this is my last on the subject.... u can assume what u will of me... i dont care.. as long as I know what my intentions were thats all that matter...
peace meso
Guys i did'nt mean to hijack this thread about Milos. The thread does ask "Question for Milos or any of his Team". Well i am a on Team Milos and VERY proud of that.
Guys this thing is blowing out of proportion and this an issue between Meso and Milos.
I agree with the majority of posts on this board defending milos.
But, on the other hand, basically repeating buy my dvd, buy my dvd, buy my dvd is being a bit of a dick.
I remember when I was younger maybe 24 at the time, I was interested in training HeavyDuty (Mike Mentzer's HIT program). I met a guy at the gym who suggested that I check his website out and buy his first book, then make my own decisions.
I did so. Then I sent Mike Mentzer an email (and Luke, you would have to admit that in terms of being a BB guru mentzer was probably at least as well known or more well known than Milos). I just asked him a bunch of bullshit questions about Heavy Duty.
Well, obviously he was just as busy as milos would be now (probably moreso)....instead of deleting the email or sending me an email saying buy my next book...he told me to send him my number. Then he called me (long distance I might add, at his expense) and talked to me for like 1 and 1/2 hours (NO CHARGE) explaining the basics of heavy duty and answering my questions. He then told me to think about it and whether I would like to pay him to be my trainer.
I never ended up doing it, and Mike (as we all know) passed away soon after.
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WOW.
Luke your so in shape there your veins in the head are out too, that is simpily amazing. Again WOW. Luke seriously if you work on your manadatories, which will obviously come with more experience and practice, you will be one of the best for sure. You are really rare, physiques like that come along once a decade.
Thankyou very much for that post Latrell!!! ;)
Hey either Luke or Milos, what would you recommend in the way of BB training & nutrition for this enthusiastic new trainee here below eager to take his physique to your epic "Pro" proportions? He's already "Nationals" calibre and already a Pro but needs to take the next step for the Olympia title, ALL-NATURAL BABY! ;D
Luke your so in shape there your veins in the head are out too, that is simpily amazing. Again WOW. Luke seriously if you work on your manadatories, which will obviously come with more experience and practice, you will be one of the best for sure. You are really rare, physiques like that come along once a decade.