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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Nicrah on June 14, 2006, 02:49:35 PM
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Ok guys I just got off my new stack I was doing for the past 4 weeks. I put on a steady 4 lbs ever single week and my body fat didn't budge hardly at all 8.5%-10%. I started out at 185lbs and am now sitting at 201lbs! So anyways this is what I was taking. Doing a normal 4 day a week routine.
Muscle Milk with Skim milk x2 a day - 100 grams of protein (plus another 120 grams from food a day)
Ceakic - 6 pills a day
Leukic - 12 pills a day
Anator-P70 - 2 scoops after workout
NOX-CG3 - 2 scoops before workout
Xyience Test - 2 pills a day
Xyience XNGF - 4 pills a day
Animal Pack - 1 pack a day
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If this is true then good job...
I'm not too sure about the MuscleTech products you waste your money with...how long have you been training? How advanced or how late/early in the game are you?
Give me more input. Again...I wish you wouldnt waste your money and time on anything MuscleTech...
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I've been doing serious physical training for 13 years, 8 of which I did while in the Army, and four of those as a Ranger. I have been into bodybuilding style strength training for over a year now.
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I would agree that if you eliminate the Muscletech products you may just see the same gains
Take the money from muscletech and buy some more food!
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I would say this guy's a muscle-tech agent. can't you tell? His very first post on here is that he's making steroid-like gains using muscle-tech junk.
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I agree...he threw in a few different supplements and labels to make it look less obvious.
Someone told this player to do that...thought he can pull a fast one on us.
I am on an neverending campaign to make people NOT buy MuscleTech...
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Ok guys I just got off my new stack I was doing for the past 4 weeks. I put on a steady 4 lbs ever single week and my body fat didn't budge hardly at all 8.5%-10%. I started out at 185lbs and am now sitting at 201lbs! So anyways this is what I was taking. Doing a normal 4 day a week routine.
Muscle Milk with Skim milk x2 a day - 100 grams of protein (plus another 120 grams from food a day)
Ceakic - 6 pills a day
Leukic - 12 pills a day
Anator-P70 - 2 scoops after workout
NOX-CG3 - 2 scoops before workout
Xyience Test - 2 pills a day
Xyience XNGF - 4 pills a day
Animal Pack - 1 pack a day
LOL, 16 pounds in 4 weeks = water if you think you can pack-on 16 pounds of lean muscle in 16 weeks your delusional.
Once you have a good piss you will loss 3/4 of your weight
Don't believe the ads in Muscle development!
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Yea I agree...this thread wasnt even worth the energy/time to POST in but since this guy has been exposed as a Muscletech lacky.
MuscleTech does that from time to time...its usually some employee or friend of an executive or someone who has 'stock' in the success of MuscleTech.
Notice how he threw out the 3 products they are really pushing in the ads right now?
I am on a forever neverending QUEST to everyone and anyone whos talks to me about supps to NOT use MuscleTech. I've had people go BACK to punk ass GNC to RETURN whatever they bought from them pre-talking to TheBlockhead to exchange it for a different label. I'm on a mission. I can't be bargained with...I cant be reasoned with...I dont feel pity, or remorse or fear...and I absolutley will not stop...EVER until MuscleTech is DEAD!
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even Dianabol won't give you gains like that in 4 weeks.... MUSCLETECH SUCKS
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funny. the guy joins the forum to make 2 posts about taking muscle-tech garbage. Let's all report this.
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Ok guys I just got off my new stack I was doing for the past 4 weeks. I put on a steady 4 lbs ever single week and my body fat didn't budge hardly at all 8.5%-10%. I started out at 185lbs and am now sitting at 201lbs! So anyways this is what I was taking. Doing a normal 4 day a week routine.
Muscle Milk with Skim milk x2 a day - 100 grams of protein (plus another 120 grams from food a day)
Ceakic - 6 pills a day
Leukic - 12 pills a day
Anator-P70 - 2 scoops after workout
NOX-CG3 - 2 scoops before workout
Xyience Test - 2 pills a day
Xyience XNGF - 4 pills a day
Animal Pack - 1 pack a day
F U C K O F F ! !
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I agree...he threw in a few different supplements and labels to make it look less obvious.
Someone told this player to do that...thought he can pull a fast one on us.
I am on an neverending campaign to make people NOT buy MuscleTech...
You can't MAKE anybody do squat. As long as a supplement helps someone achieve his goals and is within his budget, it's a good product, bottom line. If it happens to be from MuscleTech, so be it. I've been using their products for about 8 years and I like them.
As for your so-called mission, please come up with something original. The "I hate all things MuscleTech" spiel is old and tired. Not only do I buy MuscleTech products, but guess from which store I buy them...........That's right! GNC!!. That's how I get those 7-lb jugs of CELL-TECH for as little as $20. I just wish GNC had other flavors of the product, besides the grape kind, marked down at that price. I also get other goodies, such as:
- EAS MyoPro Protein (5-lb jugs for under $20),
- IsoPure RTDs for as little as $0.64 each ($.80 marked-down price plus the Gold Card discount)
- MET-Rx (40-serving jug for $32)
- Instone MRPs (20-serving box for $16)
- ABB products (Pure Pro, Mass Recovery, Blue Thunder, and, in days past, Extreme XXL).
BTW - I'm downing a serving of Chocolate Flavored MESO-TECH as I type this. And, I did get one 7-lb jug of CELL-TECH for $20 at Vitamin World. However, I didn't take my own advice, that I usually give to President Purge, and bought the Orange-flavored kind. But, at that price, I can grin and bear the taste. Plus, it's a change of pace, especially since I've been using grape-flavored CELL-TECH for the past 8 months.
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Alright Block let me hear your reasoning. I use the Nitro-Tech protein. I use it because it is easy on the stomach, tastes good, and when I buy it form www.massnutrition.com it is pretty cheap. It isn't like I am looking for gains out of a protein, but it does its job. Are they so bad just because their ads suck? If so, then they suck, but if it does the job what is so bad? :-\
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Chances are the poster is a lackey as he has not checked back in to update his post but perhaps.....just perhaps he has just started lifting weights and going to the gym regularly..
Heck when I first started lifting many years ago I pput on 10 lbs just from shocking my muscle...
hmmmm....nahh who am I kidding guys is probably a muscletech spy..
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Alright Block let me hear your reasoning. I use the Nitro-Tech protein. I use it because it is easy on the stomach, tastes good, and when I buy it form www.massnutrition.com it is pretty cheap. It isn't like I am looking for gains out of a protein, but it does its job. Are they so bad just because their ads suck? If so, then they suck, but if it does the job what is so bad? :-\
NITRO-TECH works pretty well for me, too. The best deals I've obtained have teen those trial-sized mini-jugs for $5 each ($4 with the Gold Card). The only problem with that is those were MuscleTech's attempts to get fancy with the flavors. The Orange Creme type had a cough-medicine taste to it and sometimes gave me a headache. The Chocolate Cinnamon Swirl kind did that as well.
The best way I've found to use NITRO-TECH is via the MRP, MESO-TECH; Strawberry works for me. But, as of late, I've been able to clean up, getting boxes of the old MESO-TECH for $14 each, although I got them from a different store.
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Chances are the poster is a lackey as he has not checked back in to update his post but perhaps.....just perhaps he has just started lifting weights and going to the gym regularly..
Heck when I first started lifting many years ago I pput on 10 lbs just from shocking my muscle...
hmmmm....nahh who am I kidding guys is probably a muscletech spy..
Exactly why would someone be spying on this forum on MuscleTech's behalf?
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Hey dude, don't cozy up to me. >:( I think you sound like a suit trying to touch base with the bb crowd and sell product. I am just asking Block for an educational theory here other than they suck. I like NitroTech not Meso so stop pushin your shit man. >:(
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Hey dude, don't cozy up to me. >:( I think you sound like a suit trying to touch base with the bb crowd and sell product. I am just asking Block for an educational theory here other than they suck. I like NitroTech not Meso so stop pushin your shit man. >:(
First of all, I'm not pushing anything NOR am I cozying up to you. If I were, why on Earth would I be talking about buying marked-down trial-sized jugs of NITRO-TECH and mentioning that certain flavors of that product don't taste that great and give me a headache?
The current version of MESO-TECH has NITRO-TECH in it. That's why I mentioned it, nothing more or less.
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i gained 10 pounds a week using
1 tube of raw cookie dough a night
2 packages of bacon a day(don't forget to drink the grease)
butter flavored Crisco over rocky road ice cream
yep stayed like that for a few months and gained 100 pounds of solid muscle ;D
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;D
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I never said their products SUCK. They are comparable to most...just an average company as far as quality and purity of their ingrediants.
My problem with them is thier vampire-like marketing machine that is strictly geared at catching un-informed and impressionable teens or newbies hook, line and sinker.
Its insulting to me. It should be insulting to everyone and anyone who is passionate about this game. Using warm colors, drug-store psychology, barbie doll blondes at the beach, how to build big arms or a big bench press...all 100% geared towards the newbies.
Why do people get into this game in the first place? Girls, sex, have a bigger/better bench press than their buddy, to have big arms for the reason of primal desires...etc. Newbies! Notice how M.T. doesnt have ads about leg training and building huge legs? NO...because newbies dont train legs. The uninformed have no interest in a complete physique and have no real passion about this game. From a marketing bottom line numbers point of view...MT is genius. From a BlockHeads eyes...they are nothing but vampires sucking the blood and wallet out of the newbies. Then again...theres a sucker born every minute, right?
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I never said their products SUCK. They are comparable to most...just an average company as far as quality and purity of their ingrediants.
My problem with them is thier vampire-like marketing machine that is strictly geared at catching un-informed and impressionable teens or newbies hook, line and sinker.
Its insulting to me. It should be insulting to everyone and anyone who is passionate about this game. Using warm colors, drug-store psychology, barbie doll blondes at the beach, how to build big arms or a big bench press...all 100% geared towards the newbies.
Why do people get into this game in the first place? Girls, sex, have a bigger/better bench press than their buddy, to have big arms for the reason of primal desires...etc. Newbies! Notice how M.T. doesnt have ads about leg training and building huge legs? NO...because newbies dont train legs. The uninformed have no interest in a complete physique and have no real passion about this game. From a marketing bottom line numbers point of view...MT is genius. From a BlockHeads eyes...they are nothing but vampires sucking the blood and wallet out of the newbies. Then again...theres a sucker born every minute, right?
Then you'd better spread that hatred to a whole lot of supplement companies, besides MuscleTech, because that kind of advertising has been done since the days of Arnold Schwarzenegger (and beyond). MuscleTech, however, seems to be the best at doing so, at this particular time.
As for MuscleTech's "ad reports" not featuring leg workouts, I believe that was covered in several of its ad-reports (e.g. M.A.S.S. series a few years ago). The company always stresses the basic lifts for building size. How many times have we read about Johnnie Jackson's deadlifting prowess in MT ads? How many times has MuscleTech featured pics of Jackson with hundreds of pounds on his back, knees wrapped, asking rhetorically if he's the strongest bodybuilder in the world, pound for pound?
You seem to be forgetting that YOU were once a "newbie". You didn't start out having "real passion" about bodybuilding; neither did I. That takes time to develop, just like many other things in life. The reasons you mentioned may be why a lot of people get into this game; but, it isn't necessarily why they stay in this game, especially when they realize the effort it takes.
I remember reading ads about bodybuilders training in floating gyms, training with electromagnetic rings instead of barbells and dumbbells, and taking a certain weight gain powder 100 years into the future (Take a wild guess as to which company produced that ad).
It's a supplement company's job to make the case that its product brings the user one step closer from being "Mr. My-Bathroom-Mirror" to being "Mr. Universe". But, at the end of the day, the supplements either work or they don't. Since those of MuscleTech do, I don't see what the big deal is.
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Define ''work''. How does a supplement..."work" per say. Why does MT supps..."work". What makes it better than the next company? MT doesnt use the most potent and purest ingrediants...they cut corners and costs. Most of their funding goes to advertisment and paying big name BB's...they save revenue by using inferior ingrediants vs superior.
If you know how to read labels...you can see it. MT is just average...overpriced because of ads/sponsorship and customs/duties since its Canadian based.
Other companies do not insult a BlockHead like MT does...its embarrassing to know that newbies run to GNC for cell-tech because a pro BB is shown in a picture on a beach with hot blondes gawking at them...its simple psychology. Like cigarette ads...ever see a NewPort billboard? People with ski-gear on...all having fun smiling away living the good life...with 'NewPort' label on the bottom. I'd love to see MT go away forever.
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Define ''work''. How does a supplement..."work" per say. Why does MT supps..."work". What makes it better than the next company? MT doesnt use the most potent and purest ingrediants...they cut corners and costs. Most of their funding goes to advertisment and paying big name BB's...they save revenue by using inferior ingrediants vs superior.
If you know how to read labels...you can see it. MT is just average...overpriced because of ads/sponsorship and customs/duties since its Canadian based.
Other companies do not insult a BlockHead like MT does...its embarrassing to know that newbies run to GNC for cell-tech because a pro BB is shown in a picture on a beach with hot blondes gawking at them...its simple psychology. Like cigarette ads...ever see a NewPort billboard? People with ski-gear on...all having fun smiling away living the good life...with 'NewPort' label on the bottom. I'd love to see MT go away forever.
Do you think some bored millionaire is just throwing cash at MuscleTech for its advertising campaign? The company's been around for just over 10 years and I remember when they only had three products and (at least, on the surface) one featured bodybuilder. The products work; more people buy them; MuscleTech makes more money, giving them a bigger budget to make new products (or improve old ones), advertise, paid more bodybuilders more money, etc.
As for the "newbies", they do that for all sorts of products: MET-Rx, EAS MyoPlex, various testosterone products that allegedly not only build muscle but give them super-boners, JetFuel, Nutrex's Lipo 6 (isn't there a girl in a thong, shrink-wrapped around Markus Ruhl in some of those ads?), Rich Gaspari's Novedex XT (featuring the blonde with the super-tiny waist) Heck, Steven Cardillo uses half-naked women to sell his belts. But, for some reason, I don't hear any complaints about that. And, if I'm not mistaken, didn't BSN feature some ads with a silicone-stuffed poster girl, whose pic took up THREE-QUARTERS of the page?
As for paying bodybuilders, how many times have we heard that bodybuilders get paid virtually peanuts, compared to the millions that the supplement companies make? Yet, when a company starts paying good money for the bodybuilders that endorse its product, now all of a sudden, people start crying about how the money goes toward paying those same flexers.
Your anger is misplaced and certainly not applied evenly, unless you're implying that all companies, except MuscleTech, can use women in their ads and initially charge top dollar for their supplements.
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Actually i'm not some sort of "agent". I haven't checked back for a while because I have been busy, and I usually post on beyondmass.com. A friend reffered me to this site. I really have made those gains, and maintained them. I know they aren't water gains, because I have just started doing Arimidex and have lost most of my excess water. I still weigh 201, I was at 205lbs before the Arimidex.
I think you guys are Muscletech paranoid lol. I tried these products because I had tried a lot of other things including tons of food and didn't get any solid gains. This stuff worked for me, thats all I was saying. I saw the adds and i'm a personal trainer so I usually use my self as a guinea pig for new supplements so I can advise my clients on what works and what doesn't. Sorry to have started a conspiracy theory shit storm.
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Ok so now the truth is starting to shine....
Besides all the OTC supplements what Anbolics are you using?
We already now know Arimidex, what else?
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Well said, littleguns...
The truth is...a little dbol a shot of deca maybe a little test-cyp...will make ALL supplements 'work'. Supplements 3 yrs expired with a 'walmart' label on them will work just fine with some real 'gear' thrown into the mix.
No different then the ads they push down the newbies throats...you REALLY think Gustavo gained so much muscle from using NitroTech? Jay endoreses 'pumptech'...he is probably the LEAST vascular of all pro BB's. It's all so much horsesiht. All of it...MuscleTech...their ads...Nicrah, MCWAY...
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Just arimidex, nothing else. I started using Arimidex AFTER the Xyience and Muscletech stack i told you about. I'm trying arimidex out, to see what it does for me, so far i've lost some water, and after I stacked it with Tribulus, Longjack, Proxyclon, and ZMA i've got some strength gains and been able to maintain my gains from the previous stack. I have never used AAS, and have no desire to.
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Where did you get the Arimidex from?
Most people do not go up to their dealers and say "hey you got an Arimidex?"
I never ever say anything bad about anyone on here but I am definitely smelling something funny and it is not me this time...
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http://www.beyondmass.com/~innovati/catalog/ The product is Anastro.
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Well said, littleguns...
The truth is...a little dbol a shot of deca maybe a little test-cyp...will make ALL supplements 'work'. Supplements 3 yrs expired with a 'walmart' label on them will work just fine with some real 'gear' thrown into the mix.
No different then the ads they push down the newbies throats...you REALLY think Gustavo gained so much muscle from using NitroTech? Jay endoreses 'pumptech'...he is probably the LEAST vascular of all pro BB's. It's all so much horsesiht. All of it...MuscleTech...their ads...Nicrah, MCWAY...
Again, if your "outrage" were legitimate, you would have addressed the various examples I cited earlier. The mere fact that all of your vitrol is aimed at ONE company shows that you have little more than an axe to grind.
Who died and made you the supplement police? As I said before, come up with something original, as I (and several others) have grown tired of self-appointed superheroes who feel it's their duty to "save" those poor little "newbies" from big, bad, evil ol' MuscleTech. ::)
It appears you're trying show people how "hardcore" by yapping about your disdain for MuscleTech supplements, GNC, etc. Sorry, NO SALE!!!! Not using a certain company's wares or procuring them from a certain store makes you no more "hardcore" than anybody else on this forum.
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Personally I have no beef with any company. My beef is with companies that charge 50% more than the next company for the exact same product.
We all have our favorites, chances are what I like others will not. In the long run if a supplement gives you a placebo effect or not and allows you to mentally and physically lift more which in turn builds more muscle, well then more power to you.
Again just don;t come on her saying I am taking a,b,c,d,e,f ......put on x lbs and then admit you are also taking an illegal compound...
Now stop reading the bpards and get in the gym!
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Personally I have no beef with any company. My beef is with companies that charge 50% more than the next company for the exact same product.
We all have our favorites, chances are what I like others will not. In the long run if a supplement gives you a placebo effect or not and allows you to mentally and physically lift more which in turn builds more muscle, well then more power to you.
Again just don;t come on her saying I am taking a,b,c,d,e,f ......put on x lbs and then admit you are also taking an illegal compound...
Now stop reading the bpards and get in the gym!
My workout (legs) isn't scheduled until later tonight. I will be there, hitting the iron and, upon conclusion, will be guzzling down some CELL-TECH (Orange) and GNC 100% Whey Protein Powder (Banana).
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Where did you get the Arimidex from?
Most people do not go up to their dealers and say "hey you got an Arimidex?"
I never ever say anything bad about anyone on here but I am definitely smelling something funny and it is not me this time...
I'm still laughing my face off at your bullshit. If you think you gained 16 pounds of lean muscle in 4 weeks your a fool. Simple!!!! I would love to see your pics and see puffy you look.
Even on gear, such as hgh, slim and test a 16 pound gain in 4 weeks is impossible. Go to the local meat dept. and put 16 pounds of extra lean ground beef in your basket. Now look at your frame. Than you will see my point.
It is water moron!
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Who the fu*k is this Mick33 anyway!? I have no idea what this thread is about but I've spent my lunch staring at his avatar. Brilliant!
/Mick33: I would a subscription to your magazine, please. :)
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She is somethin isn't she?! :D
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It shouldn't matter wether I'm taking Arimidex or not since I got all my gains BEFORE I started taking it. As far as it being impossible to gain what I have thats bullshit too. Everyone responds to things differently bro, everyone has a different body, different genetics. I have no reason to lie, what do I give a shit? Also as far as water weight and my puffy ass, kind of hard to hold water when you're doing arimidex if you haven't noticed. I weighed myself today at 205lbs so I'm still gaining (albeit not on that stack any more).
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Nicrah,
If in fact you have made the claims you gain, then awesome. You are a true mesomorph........
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It shouldn't matter wether I'm taking Arimidex or not since I got all my gains BEFORE I started taking it. As far as it being impossible to gain what I have thats bullshit too. Everyone responds to things differently bro, everyone has a different body, different genetics. I have no reason to lie, what do I give a shit? Also as far as water weight and my puffy ass, kind of hard to hold water when you're doing arimidex if you haven't noticed. I weighed myself today at 205lbs so I'm still gaining (albeit not on that stack any more).
Just because your taking Arimidex does mean shit. Your body percentage of water is huge. I have been a Prov./National comp. Bodybuilder for a few years, so I know how hard it is to gain lean muscle mass.
16 pounds of real muscle is a huge gain and and takes at least a year or a year and half if you load yourself with test, hgh, and or slim. Why don't you just piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
I think you need to do some research on exercise physiology and than once your knowledge level is even close to 10% of mine than I'll take you serious. I did spend a few year studying the topic in University.
Again your gains are water get over it.
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If you studied anything at a University, it certainly wasn't composistion or English. When you learn to type correctly then I will take you seriously as well ::)
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If you studied anything at a University, it certainly wasn't composistion or English. When you learn to type correctly then I will take you seriously as well ::)
LOL, ok smart ass how many 1 st place BB awards have you won? Once you win your first one I will buy you a beer than you can add 2 more pounds to your weight!! People learn more from listening than talking and sunshine you have lots to learn.
PS I believe you spelled composistion wrong, it's composition LMAO.
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Hey like you said, I'm a smartass.