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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: shiftedShapes on June 15, 2006, 10:35:40 AM
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would you like to see the PDI succeed? Do you think it would be good for the athletes for two successful federations to exist?
thanks for your time,
sS
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Chic is looking out for the best interests of the athletes. He agrees that there is room for improvement to the IFBB, and that the PDI will deliver a welcome change for fans tired of judgin irregularities and boring, gut-ridden shows.
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Chic is looking out for the best interests of the athletes. He agrees that there is room for improvement to the IFBB, and that the PDI will deliver a welcome change for fans tired of judgin irregularities and boring, gut-ridden shows.
I'm glad to hear that.
So Chic what strategies are you pursuing to improve the demand for bodybuilders. In otherwords to improve the leverage the athletes have in negotiating salaries. Forgive my naivite. I'm well versed in labor and employment law, but I'm far from being in expert on this particular market place
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I'm well versed in labor and employment law, but I'm far from being in expert on this particular market place
You and Bob should talk shop sometime. he can tell you about how the IFBB monoploy is what's best for the athletes - even though it defies all known ecomonic theory as well as your lying eyes.
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You and Bob should talk shop sometime. he can tell you about how the IFBB monoploy is what's best for the athletes - even though it defies all known ecomonic theory as well as your lying eyes.
I don't believe it surely Chic is in support of a strong PDI that would create the potential for a bidding war for his athletes. 240 you shouldn't lie about what Chic wants even though you disagree with him. I mean you can tell by my Avatar that I am not in support of his masters win....BUT I wouldn't go so far as to misrepresent his views. Everyone knows a union rep tries to increase the collective bargaining power of his members, why on earth would Chic be pushing to increase the monopoly power of his employer? I was an Econ major and I've learned about a lot of strange scenarios but what you're proposing defies anything I've ever seen.
-sS
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look... dude... i'm sure your degrees might keep you warm on those lonely nights with your aspirations, common sense, and that whore known as logic...
But Chic got a degree from the School of Hard Knocks. he knows what's best, and I'd put my money on him over Adam Smith anyday in a fair & unbiased debate on Pro Bbing Radio.
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Everyone union rep tries to increase the collective bargaining power of his members, why on earth would Chic be pushing to increase the monopoly power of his employer?
Perhaps he believes that he stands to benefit from the monopoly? from what he's posted, he is a captain of industry . . . serving on the boards of several corporations like Egg Whites, Int'l and and BB.com. Perhaps he intends to take the IFBB under his wing too.
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Perhaps he believes that he stands to benefit from the monopoly? from what he's posted, he is a captain of industry . . . serving on the boards of several corporations like Egg Whites, Int'l and and BB.com. Perhaps he intends to take the IFBB under his wing too.
come on would Chic really put his own interests over his athletes. This has got to be BS nobody is that corrupt. Back me up here Chic
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I was an Econ major and I've learned about a lot of strange scenarios but what you're proposing defies anything I've ever seen.
I didn't know Devry had an Econ program.
SE
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It's so awesome checking threads addressed to pros only to see them filled with 240 posts. ::) I vote 240 the goto man for everything. Any questions, thoughts, comments or concerns, 240 is your bodybuilding guru. God we're lucky to have you. Remember when you could post a question and have it answered by a pro. f**k that sucked. ;D
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come on would Chic really put his own interests over his athletes. This has got to be BS nobody is that corrupt. Back me up here Chic
Chick is putting the interests of all IFBB athletes. Absolutely. Chic is cool with the PDI, wishes it well, but like many here, the IFBB is the best federation in the world at the moment with the best athletes. The PDI will have one show this year, for about $30K in prize money. Just the Olympia this year is over $600K in prize money. Simple story of where the money is plus where the sponsors are.
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It's so awesome checking threads addressed to pros only to see them filled with 240 posts. ::) I vote 240 the goto man for everything. Any questions, thoughts, comments or concerns, 240 is your bodybuilding guru. God we're lucky to have you. Remember when you could post a question and have it answered by a pro. f**k that sucked. ;D
That's two weeknights in a row you've come on here wasted.
Special D "Liver" E.
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That's two weeknights in a row you've come on here wasted.
Special D "Liver" E.
I've only been wasted once while posting here... You have been toasted and posting more than anyone on the board and you know it. You're the guy who couldn't control his drinking... (quotes available upon request ;D)
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Chick is putting the interests of all IFBB athletes. Absolutely. Chic is cool with the PDI, wishes it well, but like many here, the IFBB is the best federation in the world at the moment with the best athletes. The PDI will have one show this year, for about $30K in prize money. Just the Olympia this year is over $600K in prize money. Simple story of where the money is plus where the sponsors are.
See I told you 240...Chic wants to see the PDI to grow, he wishes it well. But if I knoiw Chic like I think I do he probably is doing more than just wishing it well, I bet he has some behind the scenes plans to help the PDI blow up!!! So let us in on it Chic, what are you planning. You don't have to let the cat out of the bag completely, just give us a hint.
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I've only been wasted once while posting here... You have been toasted and posting more than anyone on the board and you know it. You're the guy who couldn't control his drinking... (quotes available upon request ;D)
I used to looooooooove to drink. man, having a buzz is fun as hell. I am now relegated to 2 daquiris on special occasions. Three, if I can sneak while the little lady is freshenin' up.
I've been domesticated, homie.
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come on Chic we are all curious, what strings are you pulling behind the scenes to engineer PDI's success?
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Chic is looking out for the best interests of the athletes. He agrees that there is room for improvement to the IFBB, and that the PDI will deliver a welcome change for fans tired of judgin irregularities and boring, gut-ridden shows.
Why did you feel a need to anwser this on Chicks behalf?
The Beef
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I used to looooooooove to drink. man, having a buzz is fun as hell. I am now relegated to 2 daquiris on special occasions. Three, if I can sneak while the little lady is freshenin' up.
I've been domesticated, homie.
For someone who does not want his wife mentioned on the board ( don't worry, I got your message from Hedgehog ) you sure bring her up enough.
The Beef
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As I've stated previously...I wish nothing but the best for Wayne and his company. If the fans wish to support it..great.
Better still if it creates some financial opportunities for pro bodybuilders who otherwise, would have none.
I still don't agree with just handing out pro cards to amateurs, as I believe it cheapens the prestige of earning one, but...thats their call.
To answer the question, "Do I want to see it succeed?"....although I have no vested interest, I would like to see it succeed, simply for the fact that it makes my position stronger for the athletes I represent.
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As I've stated previously...I wish nothing but the best for Wayne and his company. If the fans wish to support it..great.
Better still if it creates some financial opportunities for pro bodybuilders who otherwise, would have none.
I still don't agree with just handing out pro cards to amateurs, as I believe it cheapens the prestige of earning one, but...thats their call.
To answer the question, "Do I want to see it succeed?"....although I have no vested interest, I would like to see it succeed, simply for the fact that it makes my position stronger for the athletes I represent.
There we go. This is what I thought all along.
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I didn't know Devry had an Econ program.
SE
Too funny. ;D
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You and Bob should talk shop sometime. he can tell you about how the IFBB monoploy is what's best for the athletes - even though it defies all known ecomonic theory as well as your lying eyes.
Well, who you gonna believe? Chick or you're lying eyes ???
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As I've stated previously...I wish nothing but the best for Wayne and his company. If the fans wish to support it..great.
Better still if it creates some financial opportunities for pro bodybuilders who otherwise, would have none.
I still don't agree with just handing out pro cards to amateurs, as I believe it cheapens the prestige of earning one, but...thats their call.
To answer the question, "Do I want to see it succeed?"....although I have no vested interest, I would like to see it succeed, simply for the fact that it makes my position stronger for the athletes I represent.
Now that's what I like to see from my buddy. Now I am happy. :)
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That's two weeknights in a row you've come on here wasted.
Special D "Liver" E.
Hey 240 did you forget who you were for a moment and signed the above post as your alter ego Special Ed .
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Hey 240 did you forget who you were for a moment and signed the above post as your alter ego Special Ed .
no, but I thought the insignia Special D "Liver" E, or 'delivery', was a good little wordplay that I would share.
anyone who's been here 5 minutes knows i'm not ed.
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no, but I thought the insignia Special D "Liver" E, or 'delivery', was a good little wordplay that I would share.
anyone who's been here 5 minutes knows i'm not ed.
Sorry mate .
You have so many alter egos I can't keep up with you.
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Hey 240 did you forget who you were for a moment and signed the above post as your alter ego Special Ed .
Oops, we all know, but like santa we still say he's real for the children.. :)
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As I've stated previously...I wish nothing but the best for Wayne and his company. If the fans wish to support it..great.
Better still if it creates some financial opportunities for pro bodybuilders who otherwise, would have none.
I still don't agree with just handing out pro cards to amateurs, as I believe it cheapens the prestige of earning one, but...thats their call.
To answer the question, "Do I want to see it succeed?"....although I have no vested interest, I would like to see it succeed, simply for the fact that it makes my position stronger for the athletes I represent.
Bob I completely agree, you know why?? Because pros like you and Big Bill Wilmore, spent years in the amateur ranks trying so hard to reach a pro status, and then someone like Wayne comes along and just gives them away to some amateurs.. If he wants to do that fine, kids can have a 'PDI Pro' status, cuz what's the point?? The orginization barely has any money, the rewards financially suck, and the orginization will go to the floor.
byebye
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Bob I completely agree, you know why?? Because pros like you and Big Bill Wilmore, spent years in the amateur ranks trying so hard to reach a pro status, and then someone like Wayne comes along and just gives them away to some amateurs.. If he wants to do that fine, kids can have a 'PDI Pro' status, cuz what's the point?? The orginization barely has any money, the rewards financially suck, and the orginization will go to the floor.
byebye
Mr Manion, it's great to have you here.
byebye.
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Bob I completely agree, you know why?? Because pros like you and Big Bill Wilmore, spent years in the amateur ranks trying so hard to reach a pro status, and then someone like Wayne comes along and just gives them away to some amateurs.. If he wants to do that fine, kids can have a 'PDI Pro' status, cuz what's the point?? The orginization barely has any money, the rewards financially suck, and the orginization will go to the floor.
byebye
The funny thing is the guys who are receving these PDI pro status are better than half of the current IFBB pros. Only the top 30 or 40 of the IFBB pros are better (if that) to any of the PDI guys. Out of 200+ IFBB pros check out the bottom 150. They are no better than any of the PDI guys and more and more PDI guys are coming. And where do you think the IFBB gets there pros. They are getting them from the NPC. The PDI is just getting first now. Frey could easily compete in the IFBB. And the way Jack is looking he could too. And everyone bascially agrees Vinny should have already made it. Giving out Pro cards to guys who could do very well in the IFBB now, is not that bad a thing. It beats the IFBB to the punch. And everyone forgets about Europe. There are awesome guys in Europe and South America. Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they are bad.
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Mr Manion, it's great to have you here.
byebye.
this coming from the guy whos getting sued?? yep. Oh and S.Ray owns you and your physique, hes not posting his pics because he knows now that his physique isn't of old, but its still great, and owns you anyday.
byebye.
p.s
I hope you got a lawyer, a good one.