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Title: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2006, 06:48:46 AM
the only way i beleive to mimick steroid gains is to forcefeed 10,000 to 15,000 calories per day and train in the most intense way possible and that is rest pause sets (hitting failure rest pausing for a few seconds 10-15 seconds then repeat over and over over again maybe repeat 30 times or more)..

i tried this on dips and pushups reaching repettions 100-200 at times (depending on how much range of motion) let me tell you its a sure fire way to get sore.

try this restpausing till you reach 200 reps on dips or if you find that easy try 300 or 500. youll be so sore like the first time u worked out bitch. i dont care what lil bitches say being SORE is an indication you have worked the fuck out of the muscle

ive been eating straight fatty foods like haagen dazs icecream and a stick of butter melted on waffles. this seems like the only way us naturals will ever have a chance of being at least 3/4 a juicers size
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: shiftedShapes on June 17, 2006, 07:02:39 AM
sounds like a great way to get skinny fat!
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: sarcasm on June 17, 2006, 07:12:52 AM
sounds like a great way to get skinny fat!
hashahahahahaha.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: DK II on June 17, 2006, 07:15:05 AM
hahaha, how stupid is this?

15.000 calories a day? 500 reps on dips?

even if it did work, what the hell do you do all day?

you must be spending 15 hours in the gym and eating for another 15 hours.  ;D

and even if you can do it in one day, nobody can do this every day.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Platz on June 17, 2006, 07:15:17 AM
hashahahahahaha.

Are you saying that you hate skinny fat people?
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2006, 07:38:28 AM
i hate to be tooting my own horn but im a fairly big natural weightlifter and i know that restpausing everything is the most intense way to train.. the more you drag out a set the more intense it gets, things start getting really painful then its really a mind of matter thing if you want to keep continuing the set basically..

it is possible so far ive done 200 reps on dips i rest paused maybe 50-60 times to get there i thought i was gonna die or tear something eventually i had to use the "lift" on the dip set up because i couldnt do my bodyweight.

theirry pastell and serge nubret spent most of their lives training they trained 8 hours a day. but if you do  a few drawn out intense rest pause sets a workout shouldnt take you that much longer than a normal one
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2006, 07:40:33 AM
its all about protien synthesis or calorie synthesis. just like steroids increasing the rate of protien synthesis and calorie synthesis , we can mimick this but have to do ALOT ALOT ALOT more work
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Adam Empire on June 17, 2006, 07:43:01 AM
The reason you sore is that you changed your routine.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: shiftedShapes on June 17, 2006, 07:50:26 AM
i hate to be tooting my own horn

You could have fooled me, I pegged you as a compulsive self-tooter.  Just remember that petroleum based lubricants can cause skin irritation.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2006, 08:16:28 AM
You could have fooled me, I pegged you as a compulsive self-tooter.  Just remember that petroleum based lubricants can cause skin irritation.

uh no i masterbate with petrolium jelly all the time, it doesnt cause me any problems
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Mars on June 17, 2006, 08:30:20 AM
Haha.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: delta9mda on June 17, 2006, 08:47:02 AM
petrolium jelly? why not try the joe lube or something actually made for wacking offf. pm adonis and he can give you hints on pullin. :P
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: UK Gold on June 17, 2006, 11:36:26 AM
Is this a joke thread? I certaintly hope so. The reason most natruals don't use the gear is because of 'health issues'. Yet you, in your infinite bodybuilding wisdom, guzzle a monstrous 15 000 calories consisting of waffles and ice cream. You utter prick. Go on the gear and eat clean. Its safer and you'll get better results. Oh, and a natrual will never be 3/4 the size of a decent juicer. Still, maybe you'll prove me wrong and eat your way to the olympia :-\
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: gordiano on June 17, 2006, 11:59:08 AM
15 k cals.......it worked for Bret.....
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: The True Adonis on June 17, 2006, 12:04:11 PM
the only way i beleive to mimick steroid gains is to forcefeed 10,000 to 15,000 calories per day and train in the most intense way possible and that is rest pause sets (hitting failure rest pausing for a few seconds 10-15 seconds then repeat over and over over again maybe repeat 30 times or more)..

i tried this on dips and pushups reaching repettions 100-200 at times (depending on how much range of motion) let me tell you its a sure fire way to get sore.

try this restpausing till you reach 200 reps on dips or if you find that easy try 300 or 500. youll be so sore like the first time u worked out bitch. i dont care what lil bitches say being SORE is an indication you have worked the f**k out of the muscle

ive been eating straight fatty foods like haagen dazs icecream and a stick of butter melted on waffles. this seems like the only way us naturals will ever have a chance of being at least 3/4 a juicers size

I have to say I am in total agreement.  The 9-12 set shit is just silly.  Steve Reeves used to never count sets, a lot of the old guys never did. 

The only way to get noticably big as a natural is to eat Ice Cream and Pizza and Fast Food.  In the winter I would eat at Hardees a lot.  Monster Thick Burger,Large Fries and a Large Milk Shake. That one meal is good for 2500 calories.  Then I would order a whole pizza and eat about the whole thing. That would just 2 meals out of the day out of 6-8.

Its really the only way a natural will ever get to where he needs to be in the shortest amount of time.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: DK II on June 17, 2006, 12:24:38 PM
I have to say I am in total agreement.  The 9-12 set shit is just silly.  Steve Reeves used to never count sets, a lot of the old guys never did. 

The only way to get noticably big as a natural is to eat Ice Cream and Pizza and Fast Food.  In the winter I would eat at Hardees a lot.  Monster Thick Burger,Large Fries and a Large Milk Shake. That one meal is good for 2500 calories.  Then I would order a whole pizza and eat about the whole thing. That would just 2 meals out of the day out of 6-8.

Its really the only way a natural will ever get to where he needs to be in the shortest amount of time.

As your pics have proven so many times, you will look like shit if you follow this advice.
i'd rather stay lean and healthy instead of eating shit to get big and fat.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: shiftedShapes on June 17, 2006, 02:19:01 PM
I have to say I am in total agreement.  The 9-12 set shit is just silly.  Steve Reeves used to never count sets, a lot of the old guys never did. 

The only way to get noticably big as a natural is to eat Ice Cream and Pizza and Fast Food.  In the winter I would eat at Hardees a lot.  Monster Thick Burger,Large Fries and a Large Milk Shake. That one meal is good for 2500 calories.  Then I would order a whole pizza and eat about the whole thing. That would just 2 meals out of the day out of 6-8.

Its really the only way a natural will ever get to where he needs to be in the shortest amount of time.


it will be interesting to see how much muscle you actually gained when you diet down

my prediction is that it is not much more then you would have put on if you just put on quality muscle little by little

but maybe you will prove me wrong
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: RAT MCBAT on June 17, 2006, 05:50:43 PM
dude, we dont work out... we post on getbig. im so fat my ass has its own congressman
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Arnold jr on June 17, 2006, 05:59:02 PM
dude, we dont work out... we post on getbig. im so fat my ass has its own congressman
I can think of a few on capitol hill who would be perfect to represent this district.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: youandme on June 17, 2006, 07:35:46 PM
I have to say I am in total agreement.  The 9-12 set shit is just silly.  Steve Reeves used to never count sets, a lot of the old guys never did. 

The only way to get noticably big as a natural is to eat Ice Cream and Pizza and Fast Food.  In the winter I would eat at Hardees a lot.  Monster Thick Burger,Large Fries and a Large Milk Shake. That one meal is good for 2500 calories.  Then I would order a whole pizza and eat about the whole thing. That would just 2 meals out of the day out of 6-8.

Its really the only way a natural will ever get to where he needs to be in the shortest amount of time.
How does a paper boy make that much money???

Peanut Butter, Whole Milk, Ranch dressing, Mayo, Whole Eggs, Butter, Olive Oil, and meat.
When you can't eat anymore have Ice Cream malts, and bannana splits.
Do hard sprints in the morning to increase hunger no longer than 10 mins.

Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Sculpter on June 19, 2006, 06:39:12 AM
People today imo are taking everything too literally in the way of eating & training.The old timers had it right imo when it came to eating to get big.Foods such as whole milk,lean cuts of red meat, whole grains, veggies, fish, eggs etc. are what will put the ponds on you quicker than anything.Also, a high water intake alone can actually put a few pounds on you if you don't have a high water intake & your body is depleted of it.If you see your gaining fat you simply cut down your caloric intake.Essential fats imo can also help your body in staying lean.It's all in keeping the whole picture in moderation & actually quite simple.As to training it's the compound exercises that you gain size with.No sense in a skinny kid doing leg extensions in place of squats.Actually I see no sense in an ectomorph doing any shaping exercises period.Stick to the mass builders & you will gain as long as your food intake is also good.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: MidniteRambo on June 21, 2006, 11:12:50 AM
10,000 to 15,000 calories per day  . . . dips and pushups reaching repettions 100-200 at times  . . .eating straight fatty foods like haagen dazs icecream and a stick of butter melted on waffles . . .


Insane....
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Blockhead on June 21, 2006, 01:11:27 PM

 Spend an entire day training biceps and triceps...like 8 hours but have a Celltech/Nitrotech cocktail every few hours you can make steroid-like gains.

 In fact...just add Muscletech supplements to your diet and intense exercise program and you should be all set. Make sure you train chest on Mondays though and show that tribal tat around the arm...hope this helps. Good luck!
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: MidniteRambo on June 21, 2006, 01:19:55 PM
Spend an entire day training biceps and triceps...like 8 hours


I'm no expert but that sounds like overtraining to me.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: Blockhead on June 21, 2006, 03:39:50 PM

 You dont understand...when using MuscleTech supplements...there is no such thing as 'overtraining'...just OVERACHEIVING.
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: DK II on June 22, 2006, 05:24:37 AM
You dont understand...when using MuscleTech supplements...there is no such thing as 'overtraining'...just OVERACHEIVING.

hahahaha, tru that.
i heard Ronnie built his physique in one giant 2 week training session were he only consumed muscletech products!
Title: Re: training/eating to mimick steroid gains
Post by: gibberj2 on June 22, 2006, 05:55:20 AM
that's a terrible idea. muscle doesn't grow that fast. some people think that if you eat millions of calories they will go to your muscles when the muscles can only grow so much in so much time. where does the rest of the food go? that's how you get fat. and the other mistake is the bulking. naturals shouldn't bulk because having to lose a lot of fat afterwards will have you drop a lot of muscle.