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Title: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: hifrommike on June 18, 2006, 09:48:31 AM
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, April 24, 2006

The Human Cost

by Luis Fernando Llosa

One amateur bodybuilder's journey from the gym to intensive care, and the grueling rehab that followed, tells a cautionary tale of the damage that can be done by steroids

ON THE MORNING after Christmas Day 2005, Brad Cunningham complained about a searing headache and chest pains. When the 29-year-old amateur bodybuilder got up from the sofa in his mother's house in Garland, Texas, he keeled over. By the time his mother, Julia, got to a phone and called 911, Brad had fallen three times and was sprawled limply on the floor.

Cunningham is one of the many anabolic steroid users in the U.S. who have relied on Mexico--and the companies targeted in Operation Gear Grinder--as his source for the drugs. Three months after his collapse, he tells an extreme version of a tale that's all too familiar: how a healthy athlete let ambition and competitive drive blind him to the potential hazards of steroid use.

Cunningham first learned about juicing in 1994 when he was a senior at South Garland High and a backup receiver on the football team. "A bunch of my buddies took [steroids] to bulk up," says the 6-foot, 207-pound Cunningham. "I didn't have the money. If I had, I definitely would have too."

In 1998, Cunningham decided he wanted to get a little more buff. A friend supplied him with testosterone, nandralone and Winstrol (all veterinary-grade anabolics manufactured south of the Río Grande) that he'd scored from a dealer in Mesquite, Texas. "Back then everybody was driving down to Mexico and loading up, hiding the stuff in the panels of their cars," Cunningham says. He used the drugs in 90-day cycles for two years but stopped cold after he was hospitalized with a sports hernia. He'd been doing 225-pound shoulder-shrug lifts while amped up on juice and had ripped the lining of his stomach.

It wasn't until January 2004 that Cunningham--then a senior majoring in logistics at North Texas--started using again. "I wanted to be the next Ronnie Coleman," he says, referring to the eight-time Mr. Olympia.

Cunningham met a brawny personal trainer at a 24-Hour Fitness center in Dallas. "He was huge," says Cunningham. "We got to talking one day and he asked me if I had a connection. He gave me his phone number." Within weeks, says Cunningham, "I was doing about 500 milligrams of Teston QV 200 a week, stacking that with Deca QV-300 and using Winstrol and Equipoise too. I could work out hard for an hour and a half. Without steroids I'd get tired after 45 minutes." The drugs he used were made by Quality Vet, one of the companies owned by Alberto Saltiel-Cohen and a favorite brand within his circle of lifters and trainers.

Cunningham had set a goal--to become a pro bodybuilder--and he was willing to do whatever it took to reach it. So he juiced for two years straight, never once cycling off to give his body a break. After graduation last spring Cunningham held down a $38,000-a-year job handling logistics for a transportation company in Dallas while maintaining a strict regimen of powerlifting, steroids and protein consumption.
By last September--consumed by the gym culture--he'd ballooned from 189 to 250 pounds and quit his day job to lift full time, supporting himself by bartending and working part time as a personal trainer. He also supplemented his income by selling steroids to clients he met in the gym, netting up to $700 a week. (He says that he obtained the drugs through a gym dealer.)

Cunningham's plan was to win at the 2006 NPC Heart of Texas Bodybuilding, Figure & Fitness Championships, a Plano amateur contest, and then try to work his way up to the nationals. Instead he lay facedown on his mom's floor on that December morning, dying. His heart stopped and paramedics shocked him eight times, to no avail. On the ninth try he was revived, and he was rushed to Baylor Medical Center in Garland. "They gave him no chance of surviving," says Julia, her eyes welling up. "A chaplain met me at the door."

Dr. John Bret, the heart specialist who treated him at Baylor, says that Cunningham had multiple heart attacks at home and as he was being rushed to the hospital. "There was significant heart damage," he says. "You just don't see that kind of damage in a young, healthy person. Steroid use was certainly a factor." Eight days after his heart attacks, Cunningham suffered a stroke that paralyzed his left side. Told the disability was probably permanent, he attacked rehabilitation with the intensity he had previously reserved for bodybuilding.

After three months of daily six-hour rehab sessions, Cunningham is walking again. He still has a limp, hasn't regained full use of the fingers on his left hand and is taking nine medications daily. Asked how he feels about the crackdown on the Mexican steroid pipeline, he says, "It's good that [those involved] were taken down, because it will save kids' lives."


Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Dorian 01 on June 18, 2006, 09:59:45 AM
What!?! You mean if you abuse a drug it can be harmful? Take that crazy shit to the propaganda board.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: sarcasm on June 18, 2006, 10:02:06 AM
225 lb. shoulder shrugs, what an animal!!!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 18, 2006, 10:08:06 AM
his after picture's horrible.

he needs to do a cycle, fast!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 18, 2006, 10:15:06 AM
his after picture's horrible.

he needs to do a cycle, fast!

Don't be so hard on him, he still has monster forearms.

Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Magnus on June 18, 2006, 10:17:34 AM
"I wanted to be the next Ronnie Coleman,"

.........the next Ronnie ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

no legs;
no lats;
big waist line...........

ok, maybe just the belly of Ronnie :P
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 18, 2006, 10:18:35 AM
he looks so retarded!!!

look at the balloons under his legs!

hahahahhahahah!!!!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Magnus on June 18, 2006, 10:20:37 AM
monster genetics................ guy losted no size as far as calves are concerned!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: gordiano on June 18, 2006, 10:22:40 AM
What a fucking tool. Look at his before shots, he could have gotten there naturally. Monster leg neglect.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 18, 2006, 10:22:53 AM
he looks like shit juiced up.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 18, 2006, 10:24:54 AM

LOOK AT HIS SHIRT!!!1111
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79756.0;attach=85340;image)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 18, 2006, 10:25:55 AM
LOOK AT HIS SHIRT!!!1111
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79756.0;attach=85340;image)

Monster Hypocrisy!

Come to think about it, he even looks a little like Dugdale.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on June 18, 2006, 10:28:34 AM
LOL, all that sauce and he's still looking like shit.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: SteelePegasus on June 18, 2006, 10:32:24 AM
I don't want to kick a guy when he is down but.  He didn't need to use steroids to get this. Hard work and some trips to the local GNC could have gotten him this far
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 18, 2006, 10:35:57 AM
In that second pic he looks like a BEAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: gordiano on June 18, 2006, 10:36:15 AM
I don't want to kick a guy when he is down but.  He didn't need to use steroids to get this. Hard work and some trips to the local GNC could have gotten him this far

That's what I said. Proper diet, and some hard training he could have gotten there and beyond.

Instead, he wanted size now. Regardless, I see tools like this at my gym all the time. They use the drugs, and still look like shit. Still weak.  Most don't train legs, just like that fucker. They are scared of the pain. They just want beach muscles.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: RAT MCBAT on June 18, 2006, 10:39:43 AM
Don't be so hard on him, he still has monster forearms.


what is all that shit he's standing on?  ???
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Dan-O on June 18, 2006, 10:41:24 AM
That's what I said. Proper diet, and some hard training he could have gotten there and beyond.

Instead, he wanted size now. Regardless, I see tools like this at my gym all the time. They use the drugs, and still look like shit. Still weak.  Most don't train legs, just like that fucker. They are scared of the pain. They just want beach muscles.

Agreed.  This guy didn't have the heart in the first place (no pun intended) and was trying to use steroids as a shortcut.  There really aren't any shortcuts in life.  Here you see the kind of things that happen when you try to take shortcuts.

Getting tired after working out for 45 minutes, gimme a break. ::)

EDIT:  I mean, getting on gear might be appropriate for helping reach your goals IF you've got the mental fortitude and know-how to begin with, but so many guys don't know what they're doing and it all ends up blowing up in their face.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Lynchie on June 18, 2006, 11:00:39 AM
Not to knock this guy, but I looked like that when I was 19 and natural after 2 years of training. How the fuck did he think he was gonna be the next Ronnie without training legs?
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Earl1972 on June 18, 2006, 11:07:50 AM
his calves aren't bad

look at the difference between his calves and ankle size

E
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Bodies on June 18, 2006, 11:17:12 AM
This is a good example of what can happen when you juice and don't Squat.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: LuciusFox on June 18, 2006, 11:25:13 AM
Agreed.  This guy didn't have the heart in the first place (no pun intended) and was trying to use steroids as a shortcut.  There really aren't any shortcuts in life.  Here you see the kind of things that happen when you try to take shortcuts.

Getting tired after working out for 45 minutes, gimme a break. ::)

EDIT:  I mean, getting on gear might be appropriate for helping reach your goals IF you've got the mental fortitude and know-how to begin with, but so many guys don't know what they're doing and it all ends up blowing up in their face.



 Getting tired after working out for 45 minutes, gimme a break....this pretty much describes me, but I never wanted to be Mr. Olympia ;D
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Kaliym73 on June 18, 2006, 11:26:26 AM
This guy did not need steroids, 225 shoulder shrugs, god that was the first thing I could lift in the gym when I started out. Hard work builds a good foundation and this guy should of spent more time training and less time doing roids. Sad story indeed.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2006, 11:42:02 AM
cautionary tale ,tried too much too soon and for what....all the stuff he did his physique in the top photo and at least with that shown pose isn't even top 5 material in local show :-\
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Sir William Idol on June 18, 2006, 11:42:30 AM
lets put his physique aside for a sec and talk about the heart attack incident.  anyone have any ideas about this?  he was doing test, deca, winny and eq.  where's the heart attack coming from?  i'm guessing there were some other compounds involved that we're not getting the full story on.  dnp possibly?  they said he was close to a contest...
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 18, 2006, 11:46:42 AM
lets put his physique aside for a sec and talk about the heart attack incident.  anyone have any ideas about this?  he was doing test, deca, winny and eq.  where's the heart attack coming from?  i'm guessing there were some other compounds involved that we're not getting the full story on.  dnp possibly?  they said he was close to a contest...


Was he getting blood work done reguarly?  In some people, some anabolics can really fucck up their cholesterol.  That said, there are tons of young athletes who never touched a steroid in their life who drop dead of cardiac arrythymias... you see the stories in the news all the time.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: nzmusclemonster on June 18, 2006, 11:54:23 AM
i thought this was the after pic of when he was retarded...  :-X

Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Sir William Idol on June 18, 2006, 11:56:38 AM
yes they lower hdl and raise ldl but a heart attack at 28?  if he was genetically predisposed then blame it on that, but im doubting those 4 compounds he took were the sole cause....same old media witch hunt
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: brianX on June 18, 2006, 11:59:01 AM
He's just another idiot who blames steroids for all of his health problems. I wouldn't be surprised if he had an undiagnosed condition like diabetes.

It's also interesting how he admits to being a drug dealer, but thinks it's a good thing that other drug dealers are getting busted and thrown in prison. What a scumbag. ::)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Earl1972 on June 18, 2006, 12:18:07 PM

Was he getting blood work done reguarly?  In some people, some anabolics can really fucck up their cholesterol.  That said, there are tons of young athletes who never touched a steroid in their life who drop dead of cardiac arrythymias... you see the stories in the news all the time.

yeah 28 year old Army women's basketball coach Maggie Dixon is the most recent


E

Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: WOOO on June 18, 2006, 12:22:10 PM
sports illustrated is so gay... i want to shit on my keyboard
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: IronGame on June 18, 2006, 12:31:38 PM
what is all that shit he's standing on?  ???

In the first pic those are his chicken legs.  In the second pic, those are also his chicken legs and some balance paltforms that are used in rehab to help regain (what else?) balance.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Dos Equis on June 18, 2006, 12:55:23 PM
I feel sorry for the guy.  Went on the sauce and still looked terrible.  Not a very good risk/reward. 
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 18, 2006, 12:58:54 PM
$100 says he was doing blow, E and other party drugs while bartending... testosterone alone is NOT going to cause a bloody heart attack.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Sir William Idol on June 18, 2006, 01:16:14 PM
$100 says he was doing blow, E and other party drugs while bartending... testosterone alone is NOT going to cause a bloody heart attack.



no bias here!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: badlad on June 18, 2006, 01:20:04 PM
I too have a story...
there was this guy right, he was a fairly healthy guy but he started hanging out with the wrong crowd. So he went to MacDonalds and started to eat a few extra cheese burgers and started gaining a few extra pounds. Over time because he wasn't exercising he began to put on extra weight so he decided he would smoke  a few cigs too but just in a social setting when he was having a few beers as well.
Then one day he was at home and after having a plate of extra cheesy nachos and tacos and some high fat enchildas (that his mate had got for him through a mexican dealer smuggled back in the panels of his car) he fell over and had a massive heart attack.
well they revived him and he survived. He is now scheduled to have a bypass and is on medication for the rest of his life.
Damn those mexican dealers...
(This story was taken from Sports Illustrated a few years ago - thank god they report all the sensational stories for a fair and balanced read...)

Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: badlad on June 18, 2006, 01:25:03 PM
BTW - if anybody would like some serious gear I have someone who can get Chicken Fajitas 250mg cheap.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Sir William Idol on June 18, 2006, 02:24:29 PM
good one badlad
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Croatch on June 18, 2006, 02:43:46 PM
Quote
He'd been doing 225-pound shoulder-shrug lifts while amped up on juice and had ripped the lining of his stomach.
I just did 455 for 10, natural.  I must be a genetic freak, or maybe this guy is just weak as dick...hahaha ;D
Monster Strength!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Adam Empire on June 18, 2006, 03:22:28 PM
I too have a story...
there was this guy right, he was a fairly healthy guy but he started hanging out with the wrong crowd. So he went to MacDonalds and started to eat a few extra cheese burgers and started gaining a few extra pounds. Over time because he wasn't exercising he began to put on extra weight so he decided he would smoke  a few cigs too but just in a social setting when he was having a few beers as well.
Then one day he was at home and after having a plate of extra cheesy nachos and tacos and some high fat enchildas (that his mate had got for him through a mexican dealer smuggled back in the panels of his car) he fell over and had a massive heart attack.
well they revived him and he survived. He is now scheduled to have a bypass and is on medication for the rest of his life.
Damn those mexican dealers...
(This story was taken from Sports Illustrated a few years ago - thank god they report all the sensational stories for a fair and balanced read...)



Ahhhh..  Funny.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Adam Empire on June 18, 2006, 03:23:25 PM
I hope this is a good lesson to anyone who is planning a 104 week cycle like he did.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Bluto on June 18, 2006, 03:50:03 PM
"Steroid use was certainly a factor."

a factor or A factor?
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 18, 2006, 03:52:13 PM
I hope this is a good lesson to anyone who is planning a 104 week cycle like he did.

Hear that, Arvilla?  ::)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: UK Gold on June 18, 2006, 04:22:22 PM
We are not hearing the full story. There is no way that anyone can do a TWO YEAR cycle of test and deca and still look that small. Even if he didn't train he'd still look bigger. What a joke.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Adam Empire on June 18, 2006, 06:24:19 PM
Did anybody here go to his gym or know him?  Chances are good he is on the boards too...
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: sarcasm on June 18, 2006, 07:09:56 PM
if he looked like that on all those drugs can you imagine how small he was clean?
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: whateva on June 18, 2006, 07:30:24 PM
I just did 455 for 10, natural.  I must be a genetic freak, or maybe this guy is just weak as dick...hahaha ;D
Monster Strength!
Croatch you are not natural (remember),maybe clean
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: sarcasm on June 18, 2006, 07:32:33 PM
Croatch you are not natural (remember),maybe clean
yes he is you moron, one small cycle 12 years ago is natural to me and any reasonable person, you're just jealous because you juice to the gills and still look like an 8 dollar an hour bouncer at the local country music bar.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: whateva on June 18, 2006, 07:38:20 PM
, you're just jealous because you juice to the gills and still look like an 8 dollar an hour bouncer at the local country music bar.
How do you know ?homo
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: sarcasm on June 18, 2006, 07:39:53 PM
How do you know ?homo
because of the emotional way you reacted.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: whateva on June 18, 2006, 07:45:39 PM
because of the emotional way you reacted.
you are right.  I'm meltingdown as we speak :'(
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: LuciusFox on June 18, 2006, 07:51:24 PM
yes he is you moron, one small cycle 12 years ago is natural to me and any reasonable person, you're just jealous because you juice to the gills and still look like an 8 dollar an hour bouncer at the local country music bar.


 I have to agree with this. There is no need to be puritanical about natural status.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: whateva on June 18, 2006, 07:58:47 PM

 I have to agree with this. There is no need to be puritanical about natural status.
once you lost your virginity ,you can talk about abstinence all you want ,but you are not a virgin anymore
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: onlyme on June 18, 2006, 08:00:31 PM
.........the next Ronnie ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

no legs;
no lats;
big waist line...........

ok, maybe just the belly of Ronnie :P

Yes but the same size calves as Coleman
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: LuciusFox on June 18, 2006, 08:23:56 PM
once you lost your virginity ,you can talk about abstinence all you want ,but you are not a virgin anymore


  I don't think the two are comparable. Losing virginity is experience that can't be taken back, the same as using steroids, but the effect on a physique of one small cycle can become negligible over time.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: 240 is Back on June 18, 2006, 08:32:30 PM

  I don't think the two are comparable. Losing virginity is experience that can't be taken back, the same as using steroids, but the effect on a physique of one small cycle can become negligible over time.

I think it should be classified as clean.  not natural. 

Cause once you enter the gray area, you can argue all day.  Is one cycle, then ten years off, considered natural?  What about 2 cycles, then 8 years off?  Soon you'll have lifetime juicers that have taken 6 months off claiming "I'm all natural, you juicer pricks!"
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: LuciusFox on June 18, 2006, 08:43:59 PM
I think it should be classified as clean.  not natural. 

Cause once you enter the gray area, you can argue all day.  Is one cycle, then ten years off, considered natural?  What about 2 cycles, then 8 years off?  Soon you'll have lifetime juicers that have taken 6 months off claiming "I'm all natural, you juicer pricks!"


   Just because it might create a gray area doesn't mean we should create absurd limits. He did the cycle 12 years ago and it apparently didn't add much mass. If he remains drug-free and training until he is 50 years-old will he still be clean? ::) Clean implies someone who has built a substantial amount of mass with steroids but is not currently using.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: rocket on June 18, 2006, 08:53:10 PM
Those pics afterwards were horrific.  Not so much the one where he has lost the weight but the ones where he is juiced are terrible.  For the record the recovery pic is clearly resized incorrectly.  He had a heart attack and his head suddenly changed structure to one more akin of frankenstein ::)

I can only assume he wasn't dealt a full hand upstairs to go all out when it totally wasn't on.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: LuciusFox on June 18, 2006, 08:57:23 PM
Those pics afterwards were horrific.  Not so much the one where he has lost the weight but the ones where he is juiced are terrible.  For the record the recovery pic is clearly resized incorrectly.  He had a heart attack and his head suddenly changed structure to one more akin of frankenstein ::)

I can only assume he wasn't dealt a full hand upstairs to go all out when it totally wasn't on.


 I expected him to look a little bigger in the juiced pic :-\
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Mobil on June 18, 2006, 09:19:44 PM
"Cunningham had set a goal--to become a pro bodybuilder--and he was willing to do whatever it took to reach it. So he juiced for two years straight, never once cycling off to give his body a break"

im glad they added this in there to show he abused them.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: ARMZ on June 18, 2006, 09:31:51 PM
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, April 24, 2006

The Human Cost

by Luis Fernando Llosa




Cunningham's plan was to win at the 2006 NPC Heart of Texas Bodybuilding, Figure & Fitness Championships, a Plano amateur contest, and then try to work his way up to the nationals. Instead he lay facedown on his mom's floor on that December morning, dying. His heart stopped and paramedics shocked him eight times, to no avail. On the ninth try he was revived, and he was rushed to Baylor Medical Center in Garland. "They gave him no chance of surviving," says Julia, her eyes welling up. "A chaplain met me at the door."






This guy wouldn't even place in a local Florida show..
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: honest on June 18, 2006, 09:45:00 PM
"Cunningham had set a goal--to become a pro bodybuilder--and he was willing to do whatever it took to reach it. So he juiced for two years straight, never once cycling off to give his body a break"

im glad they added this in there to show he abused them.


still that is not enough reason for his sudden death, steroid related health concerns happen years later due mainly to the effect AS has on the heart and cholesterol changes resulting in calcification in the arteries and other things, sudden death is not usually associated with even abuse.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 18, 2006, 10:08:35 PM
Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!! ;)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: ARMZ on June 18, 2006, 10:13:19 PM
Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!! ;)



..And Cunningham too..  He was doing it for his fans!   He was gonna be Mr. "Heart of Texas Bodybuilding, Figure & Fitness Championships, a Plano amateur"
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Dos Equis on June 18, 2006, 10:21:49 PM
Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!! ;)


Milos, Matarazzo (sp?), Flex, Don Long, Burke, etc., etc.  Lots of near misses.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Croatch on June 18, 2006, 10:30:39 PM
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Just because it might create a gray area doesn't mean we should create absurd limits. He did the cycle 12 years ago and it apparently didn't add much mass. If he remains drug-free and training until he is 50 years-old will he still be clean?  Clean implies someone who has built a substantial amount of mass with steroids but is not currently using.
Clean since 94' or natural.  I could careless.  I would consider someone natural, assuming all there current gains were attained naturally.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: 240 is Back on June 18, 2006, 10:36:43 PM
Clean since 94' or natural.  I could careless.  I would consider someone natural, assuming all there current gains were attained naturally.

good point.  but you blew up like 40 pounds of bulk over that 2 months of use, right?  That had to have sped up your development process.  for someone to gain 40 pounds of bulk in 2 months with no gear would be incredible.  either way, you're 99.99% natural. i just like to argue :)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: brianX on June 19, 2006, 12:01:55 AM
Ray Liotta?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79756.0;attach=85360;image)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: rocket on June 19, 2006, 03:38:36 AM
Every time I look at that picture I think.. 2 years juicing nonstop for that  ???
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Ryu717 on June 19, 2006, 05:57:10 AM
.........the next Ronnie ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

no legs;
no lats;
big waist line...........

ok, maybe just the belly of Ronnie :P

Exactly ! This guy didn't know what he was doing ! The meatheads in the gym are often  not the guys to for training advice. I bet you could be natural and look like his before photo !
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: jeffrey. on June 19, 2006, 06:19:40 AM
i thought this was the after pic of when he was retarded...  :-X


lol....so did i :-\
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: bigtmoney on June 19, 2006, 06:34:48 AM
225 lb. shoulder shrugs, what an animal!!!

LOL...I knew that one was coming as soon as I read it!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Below Me on June 19, 2006, 06:46:01 AM
Every time I look at that picture I think.. 2 years juicing nonstop for that  ???

I think the expression

DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB"

is appropriate and a lesson to be learned. 

Also, 28 and living at home?  WTF
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: gtbro1 on June 19, 2006, 06:49:47 AM
Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!! ;)


I see this quote all the time...who said it and when? Was it a TP meltdown on getbig or what?
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 19, 2006, 06:56:40 AM
There's about a gazillion natural guys that would hand this walking infection his ass.  You've got to be kiddding me, it's like he totally skipped out on training legs.  Pathetic!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79756.0;attach=85360;image)

Anyone got his email address?  I'd like to invite him to the site for the sole purpose of asking him... WTF were you thinking, dude... I mean, you can't be serious right?
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: tom joad on June 19, 2006, 07:02:08 AM
I see this quote all the time...who said it and when? Was it a TP meltdown on getbig or what?

i don't know where the "almost died for you bitches" quote originated . . . alls i know is that the pros put their health at serious risk solely out of their love for the fans, so be grateful.  (i am.)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Adam Empire on June 19, 2006, 08:25:44 AM
I laugh every time I see that "before" pic.  Two years on for that?

I bet he doesn't have health insurance either - since he quit his job where he would have had some.  Way to think ahead - now his parents will probably never be able to retire since they will need to spend their life savings on this kids med bills. 
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: blondmusclhunk on June 19, 2006, 08:43:27 AM
He must of gotten some bad stuff, or he did not work like he should.  But for whatever reason I think you guys are wrong to make jokes about someone that is sick.  I feel sorry for the guy for lack of guidance.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Naked4Jesus on June 19, 2006, 08:51:06 AM
I don't understand this line:  He'd been doing 225-pound shoulder-shrug lifts while amped up on juice and had ripped the lining of his stomach.

At that weight... and for shrugs, I think the only thing you could rip is your vagina.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Sir William Idol on June 19, 2006, 12:26:44 PM
There's about a gazillion natural guys that would hand this walking infection his ass.

bwahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 19, 2006, 12:44:18 PM
i don't know where the "almost died for you bitches" quote originated . . .

Some jackass on Mayhem said it a few years ago after Tom claimed 230-lbs after his Kidney/Advil deal and we all called bullshit.

INSTANT classic!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: flurby on June 19, 2006, 01:16:28 PM
once you lost your virginity ,you can talk about abstinence all you want ,but you are not a virgin anymore
true.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: jaejonna on June 19, 2006, 01:19:32 PM
There's about a gazillion natural guys that would hand this walking infection his ass.  You've got to be kiddding me, it's like he totally skipped out on training legs.  Pathetic!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79756.0;attach=85360;image)


I guess he is lifting like other pros who lift like a powerlifter..
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: GreatFinn on June 19, 2006, 01:36:01 PM
We are not hearing the full story. There is no way that anyone can do a TWO YEAR cycle of test and deca and still look that small. Even if he didn't train he'd still look bigger. What a joke.
Yep, guy is a joke, Fu*cking moron, all that juice and no development at all...but who knows? If every fifth juiced moron here is going in that same direction, with same illusion of size and strength, but they don't see it coming until it is happened? We learn from our history, not from our future, and even biggest guys like Coleman and Jay look like morons when they lie flat down on the floor without any pulse...Now they are heroes, then they will be stupids, a jokes like this dude. 
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: HUGEPECS on June 19, 2006, 01:37:02 PM
ANOTHER CASUALTY OF IGNORANCE....SAD :'(
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on June 19, 2006, 01:39:03 PM
where's Vander V when you need him
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: rocket on June 19, 2006, 03:25:36 PM
I assume by shoulder shrugs they are actually talking about standing bar raises where you just pull up (for delts mostly) - sorry I forget the name too :)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: MikeThaMachine on June 19, 2006, 03:31:26 PM
Just more proof that people who go to college are definetly not any smarter then those who work at gas stations, move furniture ect..... That guy is a fucking moron, it's like he knew nothing about training but because he had gear he decides to become a fulltime BBer. Why are people like this allowed in gyms and why do assholes start hooking them up with roids or buy them from him :o ??? He should have to do jailtime for selling just cause he was such a idiot.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: rocket on June 19, 2006, 07:22:00 PM
If he really has seen the light then he will not begrudge any of you making fun of his stupidity so hate away!
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on June 19, 2006, 08:14:55 PM
monster genetics

Hahahaa Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: gordiano on June 19, 2006, 09:11:45 PM
I think the expression

DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB"

is appropriate and a lesson to be learned. 

Also, 28 and living at home?  WTF

Kamali lived at home into his 30's. He was also trying to become a pro bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: gordiano on June 19, 2006, 09:16:12 PM
He must of gotten some bad stuff, or he did not work like he should.  But for whatever reason I think you guys are wrong to make jokes about someone that is sick.  I feel sorry for the guy for lack of guidance.
Are you kidding? He brought this on himself. Why would I feel sorry for him? No one forced him to abuse his body. Just look at the fucker's (juiced) pic, all that gear, and he looked like shit. I guarantee this asshole did not eat right. He just figured the gear will do all the work. I guess he also thought the gear would grow his toothpick legs.

I see fuckers like this all the time. They scared to put in the work. So they start juicing up, then next thing you know, they come off, and they have nothing to show.

He got what he deserved.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: gordiano on June 19, 2006, 09:17:41 PM
There's about a gazillion natural guys that would hand this walking infection his ass.  You've got to be kiddding me, it's like he totally skipped out on training legs.  Pathetic!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79756.0;attach=85360;image)

Anyone got his email address?  I'd like to invite him to the site for the sole purpose of asking him... WTF were you thinking, dude... I mean, you can't be serious right?

Let's pretend this idiot had Pro genetics.....


How the fuck does  anyone turn pro without legs?  ::)
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: LuciusFox on June 19, 2006, 09:52:40 PM
 His legs really aren't that small. It looks like he at least does leg raises.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 19, 2006, 10:06:12 PM
Absolutely horrible genetics.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Cavalier22 on June 19, 2006, 10:34:23 PM
was he not cycling properly or doing too many steroids at once or was he using a somewhat normal amount
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: RAT MCBAT on June 20, 2006, 02:17:35 AM
"Cunningham had set a goal--to become a pro bodybuilder--and he was willing to do whatever it took to reach it. So he juiced for two years straight, never once cycling off to give his body a break"

im glad they added this in there to show he abused them.
now he needs a lead supplement to the brain. high speed injection, 44 caliber pin
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: gtbro1 on June 20, 2006, 02:42:50 AM
Some jackass on Mayhem said it a few years ago after Tom claimed 230-lbs after his Kidney/Advil deal and we all called bullshit.

INSTANT classic!

Actully I knew it had something to do with TP and his kidney trouble...just didn't know WHO said he almost died for us bitches...thought maybe HE had said that or something.
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: RAT MCBAT on June 20, 2006, 03:02:19 AM
Actully I knew it had something to do with TP and his kidney trouble...just didn't know WHO said he almost died for us bitches...thought maybe HE had said that or something.
when TP's worthless life ends this board will erupt into madness
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Tokyo Joe on June 20, 2006, 07:51:16 AM
juiced for two years straight - now there's an idea! What kind of dumb shit does that??

This is the classic ' I don't know ' pose he uses when people ask him why he never cycled off..
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: Special Ed on June 20, 2006, 08:36:44 AM
I think he looks better in the AFTER photo. Much more athletic looking except for the goofy face.

Special "Eat Your Vegetables" Ed
Title: Re: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use
Post by: WhiteCastle on June 20, 2006, 11:27:24 PM
Is that a heart tatoo on his chest?
I bet he gradually increased the dosage to those levels because he didn't get why he didn't look like Ronnie Coleman after the first 2 months.