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New thread on Mayhem says Vince isn't signed with the PDI and might not do the NOC. They're saying he's weighing his options between the NOC and the Olympia at this point and no contract has been signed.......don't shoot the messenger.
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PDI/NOC = Chance
IFBB/Olympia = No chance......
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No wonder some of these guys live @ mom's house.....
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to me at this point in his career he should go with PDI
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If he is smart he will do the PDI. He wouldent place top 5 at the O.
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The PDI isn't going to make it. Unless they throw him some serious money why be associated with an organization that is doomed to fail?
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IFBB Athletes Rep Bob Chic posted on getbig last night that "a few" of the IFBB guys who have crossed over to the PDI are having "second thoughts". Since there are only TWO, we know who he meant.
Today, there are rumors all over, because the Athletes Rep made a public statement about it.
So either:
1) He is trying to undermine the PDI, thus costing the IFBB guys who wish to compete there a decent chunk of change.
2) He is talking "out of school" about Vinces' business
3) He just blindly repeats anything he hears.
Whichever it was, IMO, it's unprofessional on his part. He is hurting Vince's credibility, and/or he is trying to hurt NOC ticket sales, which will hurt IFBB guys doing NOC shows. Either way, he is violating the implied ethics of the Athlete's Rep position- a neutral, impartial person who tries to help the athletes earn more money and benefits. Best case, he's just blindly repeating rumors, which is irresponsible behavior for a man with such a title.
PS>.. When asked for proof, your statement of "I don't have to prove jack shit" was poor and embarassing for a group representative who just made a statement affecting one or manys' livelihoods. just my opinion again.
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In addition to being an athlete's rep, Chick is also a human being with every right to express his opinions and make statements. Everything Chick say and does is not necessarily in his official capacity.
With respect to being unprofessional, you are the last person who should be casting stones. Your behaviour on this site is a direct reflection of who you are and your childish behavior does not exactly instill confidence in potential customers. Who wants an unfiltered man-child having anything to do with their enterprise. Why give a spoiled little brat a chance?
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Just look at this, this guy has nothing better to do than spend ( at this point ) 2 months of his life on this site. I thought I was sad . . .
You know Rob, for an MBA your sure don't spell that well. I also hear Gulf Coast University has no record of a Rob Ziruolo earning an MBA. Care to comment?
The Beef
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Vince has already publicly announced his displeasure for the IFBB, dont you think this will hurt his future placings which in turn will hurt his wallet/bank account? Realistically how many more years can he compete?
At least at the PDI, it is freash ground and I think his physique will do really well.
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If PDI had a themesong , it would be a snippet from Aerosmiths Love in an Elevator...
GOOOIIINNNNNGGGG DOWWWNNNNNNN ******
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Its not a sin to take steroids.... i
Kinda like, its not a sin to jump in front of a car...
they are just both bad judgement calls...
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Vince is a crafty old dog.
He'd be saying to wayne... "I love you wayne but I ain't getting onstage unless you give me ten grand to prep for this thing just in case it don't happen"
that is the PDI's dilema. Starting from scratch entirely with rookies who don't expect/deserve upfront support will make it harder for them to make it...
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Vince has already publicly announced his displeasure for the IFBB, dont you think this will hurt his future placings which in turn will hurt his wallet/bank account? Realistically how many more years can he compete?
At least at the PDI, it is freash ground and I think his physique will do really well.
Vince can continue to place well AND make some improvement's if he continue's to train smart. Al Beckle's won the Niagara pro show when he was in his mid fiftie's.
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Al Beckle's won the Viagra pro show when he was in his mid fifties.
Hmm, interesting name for a show...rather appropriate, eh?
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Does everyone get paid at the O?
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Most of the guys who place low have to pay back thier drug dealers... oh i mean friend of a friend that knows this guy in mexico with the good sh*t...
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LOL..so for most, it's a bad investment then?
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For most its a unfulfilled promise...its an investment on a depreciable asset.... they break even with the hopes of more exposure equalling more money.. but Im not one to talk to , "cause I never put on a set of trunks and walked on stage"...I cant really talk about it ::)
If your a newbie here..make it a topic and then maybe GH15 can drop some knowledge... he is the resident Getbig Undercover Pro ... Not a company man who tells you that the Masters was sold out but on video there are 25-30 in the stands in an auditorium that holds 3000...he is not that ...
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If I were Vince, I wouldn't compete without having guaranteed appearance fees, 50% of which would have to be paid up front.
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So 240 your saying that before the round table discussion on ProBB weekly, Chick is "Talking out of School" with Vince T's money, and messing with is money is like messin with his bitches?
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IFBB Athletes Rep Bob Chic posted on getbig last night that "a few" of the IFBB guys who have crossed over to the PDI are having "second thoughts". Since there are only TWO, we know who he meant.
Today, there are rumors all over, because the Athletes Rep made a public statement about it.
So either:
1) He is trying to undermine the PDI, thus costing the IFBB guys who wish to compete there a decent chunk of change.
2) He is talking "out of school" about Vinces' business
3) He just blindly repeats anything he hears.
Whichever it was, IMO, it's unprofessional on his part. He is hurting Vince's credibility, and/or he is trying to hurt NOC ticket sales, which will hurt IFBB guys doing NOC shows. Either way, he is violating the implied ethics of the Athlete's Rep position- a neutral, impartial person who tries to help the athletes earn more money and benefits. Best case, he's just blindly repeating rumors, which is irresponsible behavior for a man with such a title.
PS>.. When asked for proof, your statement of "I don't have to prove jack shit" was poor and embarassing for a group representative who just made a statement affecting one or manys' livelihoods. just my opinion again.
1. First of Bob is the IFBB Pro Athletes Rep. He has no obligation whatsoever to support athletes going to the PDI nor is he responsible for PDI pro as some of them are not truly pro athletes.
2. If Vince Taylor is having second thoughts, I wouldn't blame him at all. He has an illustrious career with the IFBB as well as going into the Hall of Fame as well. He may not wish to piss on the organization that's given him so much. In addition, I'm sure he's not very happy that Lee Priest picture was the only one displayed on the NOC posters. Where's his picture?? Where's Galanti??? where's Rhino's???? Its like he's already won the show so I'm think that Vince is wanting some money up front for his appearance which I honestly cannot blame.
3. Chick may be hearing the same things we're hearing but I'm sure he knows a lot more. He's on the inside of things so he would know better
4. The PDI is already hurting themselves by canceling out numerous shows before the first one even begins, it doesn't send a good sign to the sponsors. Honestly, I think the only show there ever will be will be the NOC and then that will be it.
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If I were Vince, I wouldn't compete without having guaranteed appearance fees, 50% of which would have to be paid up front.
For the second time ever, I actually agree with you.
(First time was when I had the porn shop)
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So 240 your saying that before the round table discussion on ProBB weekly, Chick is "Talking out of School" with Vince T's money, and messing with is money is like messin with his bitches?
This is just my humble opinion of course :) - but I did say early on that the IFBB would launch a bit of a 'disinformation campaign'. Is this the beginning? I don't know. It's a gray area between a few IFBB guys stating some rumors they heard, and IFBB guys telling outright lies to hurt the PDI.
I don't know where the line should be drawn- but I do know that it should be looked at.
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PDI task force to te rescue in
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IFBB Athletes Rep Bob Chic posted on getbig last night that "a few" of the IFBB guys who have crossed over to the PDI are having "second thoughts". Since there are only TWO, we know who he meant.
Today, there are rumors all over, because the Athletes Rep made a public statement about it.
Seems like the posts on Mayhem was specifically about Vince Taylor not signed with PDI.
Cicherillo made some post about IFBB pros having second thoughts.
I don't see the direct correlation, sorry.
Yeah, maybe his post got someone with knowledge about the situation to post the info about Vince Taylor not being signed.
But how do we know if that is the case?
It's just assumptions of guilt.
The information that Vince may not be doing the PDI, is extremely hot news. Could make for a great topic on PBB, assuming that Solomon and those participating are able to scoop up some hard facts.
If Vince isn't competing, it's a big blow for the PDI, no doubt.
YIP
Zack
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If Vince isn't competing, it's a big blow for the PDI, no doubt.
YIP
Zack
I agree with that. IMO if one of the hosts heard the rumor, he should call up Vince and get him to confirm/deny tonight. Would make a lot more sense- and exude more impartiality- than one of the hosts actually dropping the rumor bomb on the boards and letting it fester.
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In addition to being an athlete's rep, Chick is also a human being with every right to express his opinions and make statements. Everything Chick say and does is not necessarily in his official capacity.
With respect to being unprofessional, you are the last person who should be casting stones. Your behaviour on this site is a direct reflection of who you are and your childish behavior does not exactly instill confidence in potential customers. Who wants an unfiltered man-child having anything to do with their enterprise. Why give a spoiled little brat a chance?
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Just look at this, this guy has nothing better to do than spend ( at this point ) 2 months of his life on this site. I thought I was sad . . .
You know Rob, for an MBA your sure don't spell that well. I also hear Gulf Coast University has no record of a Rob Ziruolo earning an MBA. Care to comment?
The Beef
Damn 240 care to comment? He makes some good points not tryin to diss on you in particular but a lot of guys on here seem to have all these educations, hit the gym like warriors, and post a thousand or so posts a day. Unless you have a bowflex or pump out squats while typin on your laptop at the gym it seems to be utterly impossible to be on here so much and bodybuild, powerlift, or whatever.
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Vince has already publicly announced his displeasure for the IFBB, dont you think this will hurt his future placings which in turn will hurt his wallet/bank account? Realistically how many more years can he compete?
Vince retired as an IFBB pro years ago. Whatever his source of income is, it isn't as a professional bodybuilder. I'm sure he's doing this "comeback" for himself, so he is in a position to say "fucck off" to whoever he wants to.
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I agree with that. IMO if one of the hosts heard the rumor, he should call up Vince and get him to confirm/deny tonight. Would make a lot more sense- and exude more impartiality- than one of the hosts actually dropping the rumor bomb on the boards and letting it fester.
Why do you feel he has an obligation to 'exude impartiality'?
Furthermore, do you honestly think Vince is interested in fielding phone calls on his personal time about this nonsense?
Being a professional event, I'm sure that the list of competitors for the Night of Champions will be published in advance of the show so that fans can make a decision on whether to spend their money to attend.
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this industry is a joke
hahah i love it
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Why do you feel he has an obligation to 'exude impartiality'?
He is the Athletes Representative. He accepted the position with the agreement that he would represent all IFBB athletes, and equally. Vince Taylor and priest are IFBB athletes, and are qualified for the O. IMO, he has made statements that have shown to be less than impartial to these guys, and which could/have hurt their reputations. At the very least, he has "spread gossip". Imagine the athletes rep in ANY other sport or organization making public statements - spreading gossip - about the guys he represents.
Of course he has a right to his own opinion. But I am not sure that publicly restating gossip which can affect the guys he reps- is responsible.
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Did you guys actually saw the interview, this is not rumors or hearsay, it comes directly from Vince's mouth.
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Did you guys actually saw the interview, this is not rumors or hearsay, it comes directly from Vince's mouth.
Well... Pardon my French, but: What the fcuk does Cicherillo have to do with this then? ???
&search=vince%20taylor
YIP
Zack
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exactly.....
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Sorry to tell you Zach but nothing you wrote is actually French. LOL!!!
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Sorry to tell you Zach but nothing you wrote is actually French. LOL!!!
Lebob Chique.
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That's a little closer.
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That's a little closer.
Roberto es El Puto de Venice
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(jk Bob. 240 play nice)
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Always polite I see.
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Always polite I see.
Bob and I share a birthname. As a result, we've always shared this flippant yet steadfast respect for one another.
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Sorry to tell you Zach but nothing you wrote is actually French. LOL!!!
Fuccking Swedes don't know the difference. ;D
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Well... Pardon my French, but: What the fcuk does Cicherillo have to do with this then? ???
&search=vince%20taylor
YIP
Zack
Interesting interview...
Big problem for vince is that he is still great value as a guest poser but going to PDI eliminates ALL those potential NPC guest posings...
As far as equipment goes that is a very very tough industry to break into...
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Sorry to tell you Zach but nothing you wrote is actually French. LOL!!!
I can't tell whether you're being serious, but pardon my french is an expression akin of "parden my use of expletives"
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PDI/NOC = Chance
IFBB/Olympia = No chance......
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No wonder some of these guys live @ mom's house.....
why would he compete at the olympia? he make more money at his regular job, robbing liquor stores. its the family business. theft is keeping an entire race afloat
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I know Rocket, I was just joking.
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Did you guys actually saw the interview, this is not rumors or hearsay, it comes directly from Vince's mouth.
I didn't have a chance to listen to the interview. By the time I got to the link, this is what it said:
"This video has been removed by the user."
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2. If Vince Taylor is having second thoughts, I wouldn't blame him at all. He has an illustrious career with the IFBB as well as going into the Hall of Fame as well. He may not wish to piss on the organization that's given him so much. In addition, I'm sure he's not very happy that Lee Priest picture was the only one displayed on the NOC posters. Where's his picture?? Where's Galanti??? where's Rhino's???? Its like he's already won the show so I'm think that Vince is wanting some money up front for his appearance which I honestly cannot blame.
Vince G...think about what you are saying? If this thread is "vince Taylor not signed with PDI", why would the PDI put his picture on a poster if he was a ???. Think about all the crap Shawn Ray got for putting people on his Colorado Show poster that were no shows? Common sense.
Look at the new posters, the other guys are being put on them. And from a marketing standpoint why not put someone that people know i:e Lee Priest.
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Well, if PDI doesn't make it and the NOC never happens, I guess those guys can always go back to doing what they were already doing and making millions. Rhino with his currency and commodities trading, Vinny with his personal training and Universal endorsements, Lee with his race car driving, and those European guys with their export (cough) businesses.
Special "Back to Bizzy" Ed
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Well, if PDI doesn't make it and the NOC never happens, I guess those guys can always go back to doing what they were already doing and making millions. Rhino with his currency and commodities trading, Vinny with his personal training and Universal endorsements, Lee with his race car driving, and those European guys with their export (cough) businesses.
Special "Back to Bizzy" Ed
Ed, come on...I DARE you to come to my studio and let me train YOU.....YOU would not last the 60 min with me...and all you will do is BODYWEIGHT training, come on man, or don't big shot lawyers from CT have any balls, other than to post here?
Vinny "Special Ed owner" Galanti
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Well, if PDI doesn't make it and the NOC never happens, I guess those guys can always go back to doing what they were already doing and making millions. Rhino with his currency and commodities trading, Vinny with his personal training and Universal endorsements, Lee with his race car driving, and those European guys with their export (cough) businesses.
Special "Back to Bizzy" Ed
I have personally assured there will be a show, in fact I think I will just pay for the cost myself, with my millions!!!!!!!!
Vinny, what place would you like me to purchase for you?
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I have personally assured there will be a show, in fact I think I will just pay for the cost myself, with my millions!!!!!!!!
Vinny, what place would you like me to purchase for you?
Jack, wow man...i dont know, I kinda want 1st place, but what about you and the other guys that just suck as much as I do...
Vinny "Eddy" Galanti
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Jack, wow man...i dont know, I kinda want 1st place, but what about you and the other guys that just suck as much as I do...
Vinny "Eddy" Galanti
No, I am a much bigger loser, I thought about purchasing 1st for me, but that would be to obvious, I will take care of, consider it an early 40th b-day present.
congrats vinny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No, I am a much bigger loser, I thought about purchasing 1st for me, but that would be to obvious, I will take care of, consider it an early 40th b-day present.
congrats vinny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your awesome man
Vinny "CT BITCH OWNER" Galanti
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I didn't have a chance to listen to the interview. By the time I got to the link, this is what it said:
"This video has been removed by the user."
It's still there:
Or catch them all here:
Free Videos (http://www.musclemayhem.com/front/content/blogcategory/133/219/)
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Your awesome man
Vinny "CT BITCH OWNER" Galanti
Thanks, you too,
Jack "Rhino/special ed owner" London
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Ed, come on...I DARE you to come to my studio and let me train YOU.....YOU would not last the 60 min with me...and all you will do is BODYWEIGHT training, come on man, or don't big shot lawyers from CT have any balls, other than to post here?
Vinny "Special Ed owner" Galanti
That's a laugh! The last time I was invited to a guy's "studio" he tried to take nude photos of me. Let me save you some trouble:
I can't do any pull-ups at current bodyweight of 240. Dips hurt my shoulder. Sissy squats are gay. I do 1500 pushups every morning. Last year I received my black belt under Renzo Gracie. And I can beat a heavybag senseless.
So unless you're in the mood to be beaten senseless, I don't think it's a date.
Special "Big Shot Lawyer Provides Beatdown for Washed-Up Bodybuilder" Ed
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That's a laugh! The last time I was invited to a guy's "studio" he tried to take nude photos of me. Let me save you some trouble:
I can't do any pull-ups at current bodyweight of 240. Dips hurt my shoulder. Sissy squats are gay. I do 1500 pushups every morning. Last year I received my black belt under Renzo Gracie. And I can beat a heavybag senseless.
So unless you're in the mood to be beaten senseless, I don't think it's a date.
Special "Big Shot Lawyer Provides Beatdown for Washed-Up Bodybuilder" Ed
Thats it...thats your comeback?
what a waste....
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Thats it...thats your comeback?
what a waste....
Vinny, what are you going to do with all your prizemoney, and celebrity staus?
Jack(gonna hire a laywer to sue himself) London
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Vinny, what are you going to do with all your prizemoney, and celebrity status?
Jack(gonna hire a lawyer to sue himself) London
Well i have always had celebrity status.....never had any money...hmmmm
what to do....maybe i'll hire Jason Stern to entertain me....WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT, HE DOES THAT ALREADY...LOL
Jason....why do you call your self Ed?
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Well i have always had celebrity status.....never had any money...hmmmm
what to do....maybe i'll hire Jason Stern to entertain me....WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT, HE DOES THAT ALREADY...LOL
Jason....why do you call your self Ed?
Jack9the RHino, gonna hire special ed to sue himself)London?
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I received my black belt under Renzo Gracie.
heh heh heh
You said...'under'.
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Vinny,
Rhino has his trademarked Rhino shirts....
When are we gonna see the "Symmetry Clothing Line"
Signed
Little "Jack if you are buying placings I'll take 5th even though I'm not a Pro" Guns
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Well i have always had celebrity status.....never had any money...hmmmm
what to do....maybe i'll hire Jason Stern to entertain me....WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT, HE DOES THAT ALREADY...LOL
Jason....why do you call your self Ed?
So Vinny, what you are saying is that if I wanna sue myself, I could hire Jason(special Ed) Stern?
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Vinny,
Rhino has his trademarked Rhino shirts....
When are we gonna see the "Symmetry Clothing Line"
Signed
Little "Jack if you are buying placings I'll take 5th even though I'm not a Pro" Guns
Vinny should def. have shirts
signed
Jack(I could definetly afford 3rd or 4th for ya)London
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WOW...Tre and Littleguns are laughing too....LOL
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Vinny,
I am a Northerner as well and consider myself to have a good sense of humor.
Now Answer the damn question...shirts, boxers, do rags.....when are we gonna see them!
Signed,
Little "If I can't laugh at myself who can I laugh at" Guns
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Just go this off of BB.com
"Pro Division Inc is proud to announce that Vince Taylor has signed a contract to compete in NIGHT OF CHAMPIONS XXVII, Saturday, September 16th, at the Town Hall Theater in New York City. Because of prior obligations to the IFBB, Vince has guaranteed his joining PDI effective June 18, 2006.
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Just go this off of BB.com
"Pro Division Inc is proud to announce that Vince Taylor has signed a contract to compete in NIGHT OF CHAMPIONS XXVII, Saturday, September 16th, at the Town Hall Theater in New York City. Because of prior obligations to the IFBB, Vince has guaranteed his joining PDI effective June 18, 2006.
I wonder if those who proclaimed him to NOT be doing the NOC will be equally loud now.
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I wonder if those who proclaimed him to NOT be doing the NOC will be equally loud now.
"We go live now to On Swole for the Mayhem response to this latest development."
:D
All kidding aside, I want to know what Mayhem thinks of 240.
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All kidding aside, I want to know what Mayhem thinks of 240.
I build sites for more Mayhem members than getbig members lol...
but I am banned like a dog.