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Title: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: RJB on June 22, 2006, 07:53:35 AM
1) It is completely gay. Don't get me wrong, I don't think calling something "gay" is an intelligent way to describe it, but it's the best I can do with this one. I mean, guys stressing out over their bodies, tanning, wearing speedos: this is all completely "gay"! Throw in the competition part of the sport, the prancing around like a fairy and having old people look at you and it is officially 30X more gay than even men's gymnastics.

2) Steroids. To compete in baseball, some guys do steroids. To compete in bodybuilding, all of the guys have to do steroids. Not exactly family friendly. No parent is going to encourage their kid to join a sport that requires injecting synth into your tricep to make it bigger.

3) Lack of talent. You aren't getting the best of the best. You're getting the best of the people who couldn't do something better. Plenty of pro athletes and pro wrestlers have physiques that could easily compete with pro bodybuilders, but they have something better to do.


Don't get me wrong, I love the sport, but I am completely out of my mind. Most people would probably cite the reasons above. 
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: Rottmag on June 22, 2006, 12:13:37 PM
I love the sport, but I am completely out of my mind.

'nuff said!
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Post by: littleguns on June 22, 2006, 12:45:32 PM
You forget that MR Olympia is the same guy every year till he retires
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Post by: danielson on June 22, 2006, 12:47:41 PM
too many short bbers don't help things. It sucks seeing a giant in a magazine, then seeing him in person and noticing he is 5'2"
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Post by: BayGBM on June 22, 2006, 12:48:00 PM
RJB you're a Master!
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: RJB on June 22, 2006, 12:51:41 PM
RJB you're a Master!

tru. Want to be my sidekick since pointing that out was just as obvious.
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Post by: HUGEPECS on June 22, 2006, 12:56:35 PM
too many short bbers don't help things. It sucks seeing a giant in a magazine, then seeing him in person and noticing he is 5'2"




Tell me about...lol. I was at the New york Pro in may, I noticed a guy that I saw in a magazine, and he was about 5'3'' in person. I was like damn, those guys look like giants in the pages.
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: danielson on June 22, 2006, 01:01:00 PM
yeah, way too many people who should be wearing sombreros and serving drinks off their heads(Lee) enter bodybuilding and ruin it for everyone else cuz they look like freaky little midgets.
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Post by: Bluto on June 22, 2006, 01:33:46 PM
and that's the only reasons.
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Post by: IceCold on June 22, 2006, 03:50:45 PM
1) It is completely gay. Don't get me wrong, I don't think calling something "gay" is an intelligent way to describe it, but it's the best I can do with this one. I mean, guys stressing out over their bodies, tanning, wearing speedos: this is all completely "gay"! Throw in the competition part of the sport, the prancing around like a fairy and having old people look at you and it is officially 30X more gay than even men's gymnastics.

2) Steroids. To compete in baseball, some guys do steroids. To compete in bodybuilding, all of the guys have to do steroids. Not exactly family friendly. No parent is going to encourage their kid to join a sport that requires injecting synth into your tricep to make it bigger.

3) Lack of talent. You aren't getting the best of the best. You're getting the best of the people who couldn't do something better. Plenty of pro athletes and pro wrestlers have physiques that could easily compete with pro bodybuilders, but they have something better to do.


Don't get me wrong, I love the sport, but I am completely out of my mind. Most people would probably cite the reasons above. 

your first two points are somewhat valid.  but i dont agree with the 3rd one.  what else did the bbers try to do, but couldnt?  and which ones?  acutally, many other athletes and pro wrestlers are fans of the sports.  and which other athletes that have phsyques that could "easily compare to the pros".  i dont know of any.

bbing will never be mainstream and it shouldnt.  soccer and hockey will never be mainstream either.
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: danielson on June 22, 2006, 04:39:25 PM
your first two points are somewhat valid.  but i dont agree with the 3rd one.  what else did the bbers try to do, but couldnt?  and which ones?  acutally, many other athletes and pro wrestlers are fans of the sports.  and which other athletes that have phsyques that could "easily compare to the pros".  i dont know of any.

bbing will never be mainstream and it shouldnt.  soccer and hockey will never be mainstream either.

dunk a basketball, eat at a restaurant without a booster chair, most of them are runts.
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Post by: MCWAY on June 23, 2006, 01:22:36 AM
your first two points are somewhat valid.  but i dont agree with the 3rd one.  what else did the bbers try to do, but couldnt?  and which ones?  acutally, many other athletes and pro wrestlers are fans of the sports.  and which other athletes that have phsyques that could "easily compare to the pros".  i dont know of any.

bbing will never be mainstream and it shouldnt.  soccer and hockey will never be mainstream either.

Soccer isn't the best example. Soccer isn't mainstream in the USA; internationally, it's king, as has been demonstrated by the fans at the World Cup.
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Post by: Bluto on June 23, 2006, 01:52:21 AM
i'd say hockey is mainstream as well, bad examples.
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Post by: SteelePegasus on June 23, 2006, 03:30:08 AM
1) It is completely gay. Don't get me wrong, I don't think calling something "gay" is an intelligent way to describe it, but it's the best I can do with this one. I mean, guys stressing out over their bodies, tanning, wearing speedos: this is all completely "gay"! Throw in the competition part of the sport, the prancing around like a fairy and having old people look at you and it is officially 30X more gay than even men's gymnastics.

2) Steroids. To compete in baseball, some guys do steroids. To compete in bodybuilding, all of the guys have to do steroids. Not exactly family friendly. No parent is going to encourage their kid to join a sport that requires injecting synth into your tricep to make it bigger.

3) Lack of talent. You aren't getting the best of the best. You're getting the best of the people who couldn't do something better. Plenty of pro athletes and pro wrestlers have physiques that could easily compete with pro bodybuilders, but they have something better to do.


Don't get me wrong, I love the sport, but I am completely out of my mind. Most people would probably cite the reasons above. 

Did it take you a long time to come up with this?
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: DK II on June 23, 2006, 04:26:01 AM
yeah, way too many people who should be wearing sombreros and serving drinks off their heads(Lee) enter bodybuilding and ruin it for everyone else cuz they look like freaky little midgets.

hahahaha, so true.
I nearly choked to death when i found out Markus Ruehl was the same height as i am!
He looked so big in the magazines, but then he's not the biggest, and seeing him in real life makes him look somewhat grotesque.

As for Soccer and Hockey aren't mainstream:

ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaahahahahaahahaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahaahahhahaahahahahah ahaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa a

Name me two sports that are more mainstream in europe!
Man, in england, even pool and darts are mainstream, but bodybuilding isn't mainstream anywhere in the world!
the reasons are mentioned above.

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Post by: gatrainer on June 23, 2006, 04:33:46 AM
dunk a basketball, eat at a restaurant without a booster chair, most of them are runts.

Your knocks on Lee are quite entertaining I must admit  ;D  Just curious....Whats your beef with him?
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Post by: SteelePegasus on June 23, 2006, 04:45:27 AM
Your knocks on Lee are quite entertaining I must admit  ;D  Just curious....Whats your beef with him?

These days Lee is busy picking fights with guys in the army.

Why doesn't he try to train instead??
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Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 05:05:44 AM
Your knocks on Lee are quite entertaining I must admit  ;D  Just curious....Whats your beef with him?

no beef, I just don't like foreigners who get rich over here and then question our military, who are dying while he's prospering.
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Post by: Luv2Hurt on June 23, 2006, 05:10:03 AM
i'd say hockey is mainstream as well, bad examples.

Nhaaa hockey is not mainstream, cept maybe in hey der land.
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: catch22 on June 23, 2006, 06:41:56 AM
soccer and hockey will never be mainstream either.

Football World Cup's opening match: 2 billion viewers....  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: DK II on June 23, 2006, 06:43:50 AM
Football World Cup's opening match: 2 billion viewers....  ::) ::) ::)

I bet the Mr O could as high as that!




























If there where 2 billion gays having pay TV and too much time on they oiled up hands.  ;D
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Post by: HUGEPECS on June 23, 2006, 07:56:25 AM
bodybuilding to others, is just another way to kill time, and entertain, hardly a sport, some consider it an underground circles. no matter how you see it, bodybuilding will gain one fan at a time.
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Post by: BayGBM on June 23, 2006, 07:56:54 AM
I bet the Mr O could as high as that!

If there where 2 billion gays having pay TV and too much time on they oiled up hands.  ;D

Not exactly.  The spectacle of bodybuilding appeals primarily to bicurious and closeted men--not gays.  Gay men are perfectly comfortable walking into a porn shop and selecting very explicit porn of their choice (body type, sex act, interracial, toys, etc)--something a closeted or curious “straight” guy would not do.  We are also perfectly comfortable going to a local gay bar or other venue and hooking up with whomever we want . . .

So sitting around watching midgets flexing is not enough to get our hearts racing.  That may have been exciting at 13 but not at 23, 33, or 43.  Adult male fans of bodybuilding are essentially gay men with emotionally stunted development--stuck at 13.  

Some guys grow out of this and accept who they are.  Others, for a variety of reasons (religion, family, other baggage) deny their real appetites and engage in the safe, socially accepted pastime of watching bodybuilders over and over again in shows and on video.  ;)
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: Bluto on June 23, 2006, 08:00:21 AM
Nhaaa hockey is not mainstream, cept maybe in hey der land.

Hockey is big in the us, canada, a lot of european countries, world cups, olympics and so on.
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Post by: Bluto on June 23, 2006, 08:07:05 AM
Wrong.  The spectacle of bodybuilding appeals primarily to bicurious and closeted men--not gays.  Gay men are perfectly comfortable walking into a porn shop and selecting very explicit porn of their choice (body type, sex act, interracial, toys, etc)--something a closeted or curious “straight” guy would not do.  We are also perfectly comfortable going to a local gay bar or other venue and hooking up with whomever we want . . .

So sitting around watching midgets flexing is not enough to get our hearts racing.  That may have been exciting at 13 but not at 23, 33, or 43.  Adult male fans of bodybuilding are essentially gay men with emotionally stunted development--stuck at 13. 

Some guys grow out of this and accept who they are.  Others, for a variety of reasons (religion, family, other baggage) deny their real appetites and engage in the safe, socially accepted pastime of watching bodybuilders over and over again in shows and on video.  ;)

And there I was thinking "gay men" couldn't be defined, other than they're attracted to men, and not women.
But luckily, you know exactly how every person on this planet works, because you're gay.
And obviously I know that every heterosexual is the same, because I'm heterosexual. Makes sense.
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Post by: Dorian 01 on June 23, 2006, 08:20:18 AM
no beef, I just don't like foreigners who get rich over here and then question our military, who are dying while he's prospering.
Nobody says "I'm against the troops" that'd be almost as fucking stupid as half of your posts. People have issues with the government's decision to go to war.
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: Bluto on June 23, 2006, 08:22:32 AM
foreigners getting rich benefits the whole nation
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Post by: Adam Empire on June 23, 2006, 08:39:35 AM

2) Steroids. To compete in baseball, some guys do steroids. To compete in bodybuilding, all of the guys have to do steroids. Not exactly family friendly. No parent is going to encourage their kid to join a sport that requires injecting synth into your tricep to make it bigger.

3) Lack of talent. You aren't getting the best of the best. You're getting the best of the people who couldn't do something better. Plenty of pro athletes and pro wrestlers have physiques that could easily compete with pro bodybuilders, but they have something better to do.
 

I agree here, we are getting the best of those who are willing to do and associate with the drugs and drugscene.  They are also willing to decrease their life span.  This isn't exactly a huge pool to begin with. 
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Post by: BayGBM on June 23, 2006, 08:45:41 AM
I agree here, we are getting the best of those who are willing to do and associate with the drugs and drugscene.  They are also willing to decrease their life span.  This isn't exactly a huge pool to begin with. 

die for me, bich!
Title: Re: Why bodybuilding will never be mainstream.
Post by: RJB on June 23, 2006, 09:19:19 AM
your first two points are somewhat valid.  but i dont agree with the 3rd one.  what else did the bbers try to do, but couldnt?  and which ones?  acutally, many other athletes and pro wrestlers are fans of the sports.  and which other athletes that have phsyques that could "easily compare to the pros".  i dont know of any.

bbing will never be mainstream and it shouldnt.  soccer and hockey will never be mainstream either.

Don't know of any? The WWE is full of guys who are not only as big as BB pros, but stay lean all year round and can do backflips off of the top ropes. John Cena, Batista, Chris Masters, etc., etc. Shoot, The Ultimate Warrior was huge and had veins popping out of his eyelids. I'm not a fan of wrestling, but those guys are amazing athletes and most are built like bodybuilders (only they're 6'6" instead of 5'6"). Other sports? Pick an NFL reciever or tailback. Check out the juiced up baseball players. Canseco is an old man and he is huge.

And soccer is the most popular sport in the world.
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Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 10:45:00 AM
Nobody says "I'm against the troops" that'd be almost as fucking stupid as half of your posts. People have issues with the government's decision to go to war.

and I obviously have issues with drug abusing dwarfs, whats your point?
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Post by: buffbodz on June 23, 2006, 11:26:44 AM
It seems that the 5'10" or below is the right size for putting on huge amounts of mass.  The tall guys like Roland Kickenger, no mater how much mass they can add just don't look as massive as the 5'9" guy like Nasser who, at a time was the most massive guy on any stage.  Ronnie 5'10" and that's stretching it, but when a BB hits 6' they must have a harder time keeping muscle on such a long frame.  Even Gunter @ 6'1" and He's probably the largest contender in the pack.  What did Federov finish last 0?  16 out of 16?
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Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 11:28:39 AM
It seems that the 5'10" or below is the right size for putting on huge amounts of mass.  The tall guys like Roland Kickenger, no mater how much mass they can add just don't look as massive as the 5'9" guy like Nasser who, at a time was the most massive guy on any stage.  Ronnie 5'10" and that's stretching it, but when a BB hits 6' they must have a harder time keeping muscle on such a long frame.  Even Gunter is under 6' and He's probably the largest contender in the pack.  What did Federov finish last 0?  16 out of 16?

thats why its not very popular, dwarfs were meant to entertain, like Jesters did, make us laugh and thats it.
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Post by: RJB on June 23, 2006, 11:48:43 AM
Why does every thread turn into a diss thread against short people? ???
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Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 01:37:18 PM
Why does every thread turn into a diss thread against short people? ???

I don't know, but I will try to stop. Been pissed off lately. short people can't help being short anymore than Sarcasm ;) can help being fat.
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Post by: Luv2Hurt on June 23, 2006, 02:20:17 PM
dunk a basketball, eat at a restaurant without a booster chair, most of them are runts.

Translation: Im a tall, skinny ectomorph and I cant put on any real muscle.  Wish I didnt look like such a toothpick.
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Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 02:21:53 PM
Translation: Im a tall, skinny ectomorph and I cant put on any real muscle.  Wish I didnt look like such a toothpick.

I am 5'10" and CAN dunk a b ball, tuff guy. and plenty muscular to boot ;D
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Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 02:37:29 PM
Translation: Im a tall, skinny ectomorph and I cant put on any real muscle.  Wish I didnt look like such a toothpick.

translation:its sucks having to wear heels just to get on a decent rollercoaster ;D
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Post by: hifrommike on June 24, 2006, 08:27:11 PM
It's bullshit that bodybuilding is a gay sport.  It's bullshit that it's a sport too.  In its competitive form, it's an original art form that exploits pushing the body to its ultimate condition.  If some people eroticize that, it says more about them than bodybuilding. 

As for its being mainstream, bodybuilding would have to give up too much of what it is to appeal to Mr. or Ms. Average.  The best arbiter for a mainstream look is what sells in films, and the slim look remains in.  If anyone beefs up for a role, he'd better ratchet it down for his next role or he'll quickly find himself typecast & limited in Hollywood. 
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Post by: delta9mda on June 24, 2006, 08:48:02 PM
It seems that the 5'10" or below is the right size for putting on huge amounts of mass.  The tall guys like Roland Kickenger, no mater how much mass they can add just don't look as massive as the 5'9" guy like Nasser who, at a time was the most massive guy on any stage.  Ronnie 5'10" and that's stretching it, but when a BB hits 6' they must have a harder time keeping muscle on such a long frame.  Even Gunter @ 6'1" and He's probably the largest contender in the pack.  What did Federov finish last 0?  16 out of 16?
ronnie is 5-11 or so. nasser is 5-11 to 6  feet.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on June 24, 2006, 09:03:57 PM
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Post by: danielson on June 24, 2006, 09:15:59 PM
ronnie is 5-11 or so. nasser is 5-11 to 6  feet.

How tall is Lee?
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Post by: 240 is Back on June 24, 2006, 09:20:57 PM
How tall is Lee?

Dexter is 3 apples high, so that'd make Lee 2.5
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Post by: danielson on June 24, 2006, 09:28:20 PM
Dexter is 3 apples high, so that'd make Lee 2.5

I read that Lee was going to see the new Superman movie, but I remember when I was 3 and only 3 feet tall it sucked going to the movies cuz I couldn't see over peoples heads. I feel bad for the little fella, but at least he gets the kids ticket price.
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Post by: Earl1972 on June 24, 2006, 10:23:50 PM
I read that Lee was going to see the new Superman movie, but I remember when I was 3 and only 3 feet tall it sucked going to the movies cuz I couldn't see over peoples heads. I feel bad for the little fella, but at least he gets the kids ticket price.

all your posts bash bodybuilders height yet you are a monster 5'10 ::)

E
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Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on June 24, 2006, 11:23:58 PM
Not exactly.  The spectacle of bodybuilding appeals primarily to bicurious and closeted men--not gays.  Gay men are perfectly comfortable walking into a porn shop and selecting very explicit porn of their choice (body type, sex act, interracial, toys, etc)--something a closeted or curious “straight” guy would not do.  We are also perfectly comfortable going to a local gay bar or other venue and hooking up with whomever we want . . .

So sitting around watching midgets flexing is not enough to get our hearts racing.  That may have been exciting at 13 but not at 23, 33, or 43.  Adult male fans of bodybuilding are essentially gay men with emotionally stunted development--stuck at 13.  

Some guys grow out of this and accept who they are.  Others, for a variety of reasons (religion, family, other baggage) deny their real appetites and engage in the safe, socially accepted pastime of watching bodybuilders over and over again in shows and on video.  ;)
hmmmmmm well I got into bodybuilding because I had gotten fat and out of hsape. While digging up info for myself I started to learn about competitive bodybuilding and got interested after awhile. I think this just clicked something in my mind though. Bodybuilding is gay as hell. I think I'm done here.
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Post by: Rhino on July 02, 2006, 10:06:09 PM
hahahaha, so true.
I nearly choked to death when i found out Markus Ruehl was the same height as i am!
He looked so big in the magazines, but then he's not the biggest, and seeing him in real life makes him look somewhat grotesque.

As for Soccer and Hockey aren't mainstream:

ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaahahahahaahahaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahaahahhahaahahahahah ahaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa a

Name me two sports that are more mainstream in europe!
Man, in england, even pool and darts are mainstream, but bodybuilding isn't mainstream anywhere in the world!
the reasons are mentioned above.

I thought Markus was like 5'll.
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Post by: brianX on July 02, 2006, 11:19:22 PM
Not exactly.  The spectacle of bodybuilding appeals primarily to bicurious and closeted men--not gays.  Gay men are perfectly comfortable walking into a porn shop and selecting very explicit porn of their choice (body type, sex act, interracial, toys, etc)--something a closeted or curious “straight” guy would not do.  We are also perfectly comfortable going to a local gay bar or other venue and hooking up with whomever we want . . .

So sitting around watching midgets flexing is not enough to get our hearts racing.  That may have been exciting at 13 but not at 23, 33, or 43.  Adult male fans of bodybuilding are essentially gay men with emotionally stunted development--stuck at 13.  

Some guys grow out of this and accept who they are.  Others, for a variety of reasons (religion, family, other baggage) deny their real appetites and engage in the safe, socially accepted pastime of watching bodybuilders over and over again in shows and on video.  ;)

BULLSHIT. Just because you hang around fags all the time doesn't mean everyone else is a fag. Bodybuilders and other people who lift weights are no more "gay" than the rest of the population. That myth was debunked a long time ago.
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Post by: Rhino on July 03, 2006, 12:10:22 AM
Isn't Markus 5'11?

What does B.B. have to do with gayness? I'm sick of that s@#$!

If anything, you have to be more confident and secure with what you are because of all the gay associations that people make.

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Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 03, 2006, 07:22:40 AM
Well it appears kind of gay. I enjoy the competitions and can appreciate the male physique.  But I can honestly say it does nothing for me sexually, sorry gay it just does not......and believe me I tried.

People are just wired different some like the opposite sex some the same sex and others both.  The aggressive gay guys out there give me the creeps.