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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: michael arvilla on July 03, 2006, 09:20:12 AM
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seriously ..................(I'm going to be 300 lbs soon)
plus Laura is getting fed up with my "protein farts"
any suggestions?
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stop eating.
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stop farting ;D
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good lord! how much protien are you taking in?! ???
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Two questions:
1. What's your weight?
2. How does a typical day of eating look right now, try to be as specific as possible.
And make sure to include lots of veggies.
Also, get plenty of complex carbs from brown rice, it will keep you full.
YIP
Zack
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I've been dieting and right now I'm wanting to eat everything in sight. I've been eating alot more here lately and have put on a few pounds, gonna have to re-do my diet this week.
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are you getting fat?
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seriously ..................(I'm going to be 300 lbs soon)
plus Laura is getting fed up with my "protein farts"
any suggestions?
you really need to write down what your eating, at least for now so you can get an idea of how many calories your taking in. just like you were doing for the contest. after you see how much food your eating on paper, it starts to hit you.
oh man, them protein farts are lethal. when im using the bathroom in the office, i just let them go when im using the urinal. its like they free flow when im taking a piss. i feel bad for all those who pass me. sometimes im a real jerk, and take the first urinal so they have to pass me. i always have a smirk on my face.
oh yeah, and stay away from boiled egg whites, and tuna combination, or your protein farts will even be worse if you can beleive it.
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plus Laura is getting fed up with my "protein farts"
any suggestions?
Yup, got a good one for ya buddy. Introduce Laura to the Dutch Oven. ;)
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I thought you were staying lean?
Tubby...
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seriously, what is your height and what do you look like? i mean, are you 300lbs of fat, or are you built like an nfl player on roids? if your over 6 feet and 300lbs, NICE GOING! ;D how muscular r u? if you are like just 5 feet, then try over eaters anonymous. seriously!
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mike is atleast 6-1
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plus Laura is getting fed up with my "protein farts"
How about eating less protein?
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OK...............great advice here
what i think i have to start doing (as was stated in this thread)
is go back to writing everything down like it is pre-contest
also i have to wait 2 -3 hrs for my food to digest/assimilate the protein before i eat again
right now I'm eating indiscriminately
thanks everyone for our input!
Mike
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OK...............great advice here
what i think i have to start doing (as was stated in this thread)
is go back to writing everything down like it is pre-contest
also i have to wait 2 -3 hrs for my food to digest/assimilate the protein before i eat again
right now I'm eating indiscriminately
thanks everyone for our input!
Mike
Give us a rundown of your typical post contest diet up till now.
YIP
Zack
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Give us a rundown of your typical post contest diet up till now.
YIP
Zack
still trying to get the protein in but..................... .............
just eating whenever i feel like it
rice cakes and all natural peanut butter
shredded wheat cereal
fillet migon steak
fish (not so much once or twice a week ,compared to once or twice a day before)
some chicken
a lot of snacks,fat free sugar free jello
just eating whenever i feel like it
no rhyme or reason.................. ....
(im sure my protein intake is low)
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still trying to get the protein in but..................... .............
just eating whenever i feel like it
rice cakes and all natural peanut butter
shredded wheat cereal
fillet migon steak
fish (not so much once or twice a week ,compared to once or twice a day before)
some chicken
a lot of snacks,fat free sugar free jello
just eating whenever i feel like it
no rhyme or reason.................. ....
(im sure my protein intake is low)
I'm gonna give you a few suggestions:
Start eating brown rice, veggies and some kind of veggies. Use plenty of spice to make it taste good. Cook or steam the veggies, no biggie. As long as you get veggies in. Buy frozen veggie mixes if you don't feel like prepping it. It's usually affordable.
And don't worry all that much about the sodium at the moment.
But you need to eat natural, whole food. Stop with jello et al. The rice cakes are super high carbs. Cereals? Get rid of that too. Stick with muesli.
And eat huge amounts of food. But don't eat this fcuking junk man.
Filet mignon? Save your money.
Spend some effort in becoming good in preparing the food, you need to cook your own food if you aren't already.
In regards to preparing the food: you need to find different recipes for sauces and shit to make your diet enjoyable.
I am sensing you are feeling like shit right now.
I may be wrong. I hope I am.
Just get your shit together.
Basically, eat lots of carbs in form of brown rice and some protein too, using chicken, different kinds of red meat (ground beef, filets), fish, OLIVE OIL.
AND FOR FCUKS SAKE!!!
Make the food enjoyable by putting on different kinds of low fat sauces, spices and seasoning.
YIP
Zack
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just become a vegan.
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Mike, How much are you willing to experiment with your diet?
This year I started tweaking mine & I feel pretty damn good. I stopped caring about eating every two or three hours. I did that for a long time & after awhile I felt horrible. I was always bloated & such. I was also eating a lot of protein (325-400 grams a day). Over the past couple months I cut my protein intake to about 175-225, I began eating less frequently, & I also stopped eating after 8:00PM (except one day a week - you gotta cheat a little). My calories were probably cut by about 500 or so but I've been feeling pretty good. My energy levels are fine & my strength hasn't declined at all. Just my thoughts good luck with everything Mike.
BTW: I'm six feet & about 235 (my bf is maybe 12-14%)
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I knew Arvilla would become a lard-ass again! He's well on his way. ;D
I wouldn't quite say a lard-ass Goat.
These were taken today, almost a month after the contest.
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Monster single-door cheap white apartment-size refrigerator!
Epic non-built-in taking-up-counterspace microwave!
It must suck to be poor. It would really suck to be both poor and fat, so watch the carbs, Mike.
Well ass wipe. The fridge came with the apartment. Sorry we couldn't put a HUGE chrome 2 door refridgerator in to please your cheap ass. As far as the microwave. We have both. There is a "built-in" over the stove. That one is just an extra. ;)
You know what reallys sucks Goat? The fact that you jump on attacking appliances You are truly a pathetic waste of skin. Please stop taking up everyone precious air and space. ::)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Gifs/10_2_25.gif)
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First, eat a big breakfast. Eat something which is high in protein and fat for breakfast. I like to consume 4-5 whole eggs with some toast and a glass of juice. This will help to satiete you and to hold off the hunger for several hours. The next thing to do is drink a protein shake mixed in water about 30 minutes before your meals. This will help to curb your appetite and allow for smaller meals. Finally, use a thermogenic product which will help to curb your appetite further.
Tell you what, PM me your address and I will send you some Nitrean and Thermocin to help the cause. Nitrean tends to satisfy better than whey-only products due to its blend. If you consume it as I mentioned above I guarantee it will help.
Chris
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First, Goatboy usually seems pretty cool and funny to me. I don't understand the apparent hatred for Mike and Laura (whom I really like also)? It seems weird.
Second, Danger Mike! Danger! Your subconscious may be telling you, "Hey, we can diet at any time and get lean! Eat whatever you want!"
Don't listen to it Mike....It's a damn liar (mine is anyway :P).
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I wouldn't quite say a lard-ass Goat.
These were taken today, almost a month after the contest.
ok.....well, the pics are better than expected being how you started off this thread. i was afraid to see what you looked like after the threads title.
writing down will work wonders. nothing wrong with consuming lots of calories, you just need to consume the right ones. also it sounds like your od'ing on protein. i understand protein content is high when dieting, but what i think is youve carried over that high protein consumption into your post contest phase. being that your in the 220's (correct?) i would consume at most 300g.
ps. goatboy, why are you attacking his house man. i always thought you were a cool dude, but its like your attacking their wealth. did i miss some beef you'll had.
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First, Goatboy usually seems pretty cool and funny to me. I don't understand the apparent hatred for Mike and Laura (whom I really like also)? It seems weird.
Second, Danger Mike! Danger! Your subconscious may be telling you, "Hey, we can diet at any time and get lean! Eat whatever you want!"
Don't listen to it Mike....It's a damn liar (mine is anyway :P).
Something about Laura really rubs me the wrong way, STella. It's nothing specific that I can really put my finger on, I don't know if her bitchy online persona reminds me of someone from my past or what, but it really annoys me far beyond anything that she has said or done can account for. Mike's okay, I really have nothing against him, he's just an easy target, and we all know what happens to easy targets here on Getbig!
He really loves me STella. He's like the little kid in kindergarten that punches a girl to get her attention because he really has a crush on her. ;D
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you look great a month later!
I fuked up after my last show..I ate, and ate, and ate... :-\ and look at me now..killing myself to get back into shape..but we have the advantage as we know what we need to do ;) at first it was hard to get back into my routine eating, etc..but ive been on track since April, i weighed 240. Today, July 1st i weighed 220!. SO I lost 20 lbs in 3 months..not bad..This time around i wont eat myself out of shape after i compete. nope will not. :-*
Stay about where you are, and dont think diet. just think if living the lifestyle, every day. thats what im doing..it makes it easier for me!
When i look at it as a diet, it burns me out.
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you look great a month later!
I fuked up after my last show..I ate, and ate, and ate... :-\ and look at me now..killing myself to get back into shape..but we have the advantage as we know what we need to do ;) at first it was hard to get back into my routine eating, etc..but ive been on track since April, i weighed 240. Today, July 1st i weighed 220!. SO I lost 20 lbs in 3 months..not bad..This time around i wont eat myself out of shape after i compete. nope will not. :-*
Stay about where you are, and dont think diet. just think if living the lifestyle, every day. thats what im doing..it makes it easier for me!
When i look at it as a diet, it burns me out.
GREAT ADVICE Herc.................... .....thanks!!
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ok.....well, the pics are better than expected being how you started off this thread. i was afraid to see what you looked like after the threads title.
writing down will work wonders. nothing wrong with consuming lots of calories, you just need to consume the right ones. also it sounds like your od'ing on protein. i understand protein content is high when dieting, but what i think is youve carried over that high protein consumption into your post contest phase. being that your in the 220's (correct?) i would consume at most 300g.
ps. goatboy, why are you attacking his house man. i always thought you were a cool dude, but its like your attacking their wealth. did i miss some beef you'll had.
Arvilla's contest diet was ridiculous.
The guy ate something like 200 grams of carbs.
On his CARB UP days. ::)
No wonder he doesn't makes any muscular gains post contest since he doesn't feed himself any good carbs.
Just stuffs himself with bullshit empty calories like Jello.
Solid, whole food, preferably biodynamic as well.
If Arvilla invested in that shit instead of running his food bill to huge amounts by buying prepared food, he'd feel, look and get even better results in the gym.
A holistic approach to living.
YIP
Zack
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Arvilla's contest diet was ridiculous.
The guy ate something like 200 grams of carbs.
On his CARB UP days. ::)
No wonder he doesn't makes any muscular gains post contest since he doesn't feed himself any good carbs.
Just stuffs himself with bullshit empty calories like Jello.
Solid, whole food, preferably biodynamic as well.
If Arvilla invested in that shit instead of running his food bill to huge amounts by buying prepared food, he'd feel, look and get even better results in the gym.
A holistic approach to living.
YIP
Zack
Hedge...where the hell do you get your information? "doesn't feed himself any good carbs", "stuffs himself" with jello, "running the food bill to huge amounts by buying prepared food"? You don't know Michael's diet outside of a few things he posted here inclusive of any carbs (good or bad) that he takes in. I stated that he "snacks" on sugar-free jello. And running the food bill to huge amounts by buying prepared foods is stated where exactly???
Let's understand this correctly here....Michael had 33% bodyfat (was 270 lbs) and needed to get down to contest weight and bf in about 3 months and you think he dieted wrong? That there "could be" muscle gains during contest prep? I could be wrong here but when you are in contest prep and dieting "down" ... how do you have muscle gains. I thought the point of being "off contest" was the time when you try to put on size, and when in "contest prep" you are removing fat and trying to not to loose muscle while doing so. As I said...I could be wrong, but I thought that was the whole idea. And in thinking so, I am going to have to go with the fact that Michael definitely did what he was supposed to do for his first contest. As shown here ... loss in bf, not in muscle. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/BeforeandAfter.jpg)
I imagine now, being off season, is the time that he will work on size and work on making muscle gains.
But then again Hedge...you are the PRO. You are the one training the PROs and getting them on the stage to win the Olympia. Who are we to doubt what you have to say? ::) ROFLMAO Ya know, I used to think you were pretty intellegent and had good information to share with others here but now it is quite apparent that is not the case. You are just another kid who when has nothing to offer this board but a few paragraphs you pull from magazine and when that's done you just look to cause a riff with your serious lack of information.
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Hedge...where the hell do you get your information? "doesn't feed himself any good carbs", "stuffs himself" with jello, "running the food bill to huge amounts by buying prepared food"? You don't know Michael's diet outside of a few things he posted here inclusive of any carbs (good or bad) that he takes in. I stated that he "snacks" on sugar-free jello. And running the food bill to huge amounts by buying prepared foods is stated where exactly???
Let's understand this correctly here....Michael had 33% bodyfat (was 270 lbs) and needed to get down to contest weight and bf in about 3 months and you think he dieted wrong? That there "could be" muscle gains during contest prep? I could be wrong here but when you are in contest prep and dieting "down" ... how do you have muscle gains. I thought the point of being "off contest" was the time when you try to put on size, and when in "contest prep" you are removing fat and trying to not to loose muscle while doing so. As I said...I could be wrong, but I thought that was the whole idea. And in thinking so, I am going to have to go with the fact that Michael definitely did what he was supposed to do for his first contest. As shown here ... loss in bf, not in muscle. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/BeforeandAfter.jpg)
I imagine now, being off season, is the time that he will work on size and work on making muscle gains.
But then again Hedge...you are the PRO. You are the one training the PROs and getting them on the stage to win the Olympia. Who are we to doubt what you have to say? ::) ROFLMAO Ya know, I used to think you were pretty intellegent and had good information to share with others here but now it is quite apparent that is not the case. You are just another kid who when has nothing to offer this board but a few paragraphs you pull from magazine and when that's done you just look to cause a riff with your serious lack of information.
LMFAO.
How much carbs did Arvilla eat on his carb up days?
From what I gather, Arvilla was on a CKD?
YIP
Zack
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LMFAO.
How much carbs did Arvilla eat on his carb up days?
From what I gather, Arvilla was on a CKD?
YIP
Zack
It apppeared to be a 100% protein diet except for his "carb ups". Not really a CKD, as any ketogenic diet relies on higher amounts of fat to cause the body to burn ketones and triglycerides. He was eating next to no fat and next to no carbs. Just chicken or steak 8 times a day. ::)
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after seeing the pic, i say...WHAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE?" YOU ARE BUILT LIKE AN F'IN BRICK SHITHOUSE! :o
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Hedge, come on man. Mike had to do that to get rid of the bad weight FAST. He didnt lose much muscle. I think it worked for him, really well. I mean, look at the before and after up there! His arms look fantastic! Some folks have metabolisms that with some carbs fat is really hard to strip- so drastic methods are necessary, imho..but what do I know..haha..
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Hedge, come on man. Mike had to do that to get rid of the bad weight FAST. He didnt lose much muscle.
I agree with you Mike had to do that to get rid of the body fat. What I dont agree with is the statement
"He didnt lose much muscle"
At the end of the day, I think he did the right thing. He can get it back fast, just needs to make sure the diet is right.