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Title: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 01:52:02 PM
I knows the technology is changing everyday....

but.....

what can we lean on.....if there's nothing seems to be truth?

u want muscles? u want slim?
the answer is keep on doing exercise......

is it the only way around?

or u will just do it all?
(e.g. have "all around supplement", creatine, amino acid, glutamine....)
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 10, 2006, 01:56:02 PM
Hahahaha did you just get denied a Vitamin Shoppe card? hahahahaha
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2006, 01:57:52 PM
you gonna bark all day little doggy, or are you gonna bite?
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 02:19:50 PM
I don't know.....

I just know I am confused now

so when u ask any question on bodybuilding.....
there will be answer 1, answer 2, answer....to the infinity
and seems all of them is right.....
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2006, 05:14:15 PM
I don't know.....

I just know I am confused now

so when u ask any question on bodybuilding.....
there will be answer 1, answer 2, answer....to the infinity
and seems all of them is right.....

pity bump.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 08:30:50 PM
this is the most useless thread of the day....
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 10, 2006, 08:39:32 PM
What's the question? Was there a question?
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2006, 08:43:17 PM
hahahhahahahaha.

He got mad because he saw the monster 156 lb manager at GNC and realized that he needed to up the dose on his Fizogen On-Cycle so he can catch up.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 08:51:04 PM
What's the question? Was there a question?
the question is what u should believe in

(I have to make it clear, I am not a personal trainer now)

u ask A, here comes theory A
then u ask B, .......theory B
ask C, .............. :-\ theory C

all these theory are contradictory to each other

BUT!
they all conform to the facts about nutrients, the rules for the mechanism about training inside your body.......

don't u ever feel confused here? ???
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2006, 08:55:50 PM
the question is what u should believe in

(I have to make it clear, I am not a personal trainer now)

u ask A, here comes theory A
then u ask B, .......theory B
ask C, .............. :-\ theory C

all these theory are contradictory to each other

BUT!
they all conform to the facts about nutrients, the rules for the mechanism about training inside your body.......

don't u ever feel confused here? ???

Only the dumbasses make it harder than it needs to be.

I will give you a bodybuilding lesson. The only one you will ever need.

High Protein when dieting and gaining.
Low carbs when dieting. Low fat when dieting.
Higher carbs when gaining. Higher fat when gaining.

Lift heavy when doing both.

What the F u c k else do you want to know?
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 08:58:03 PM
the question is what u should believe in

(I have to make it clear, I am not a personal trainer now)

u ask A, here comes theory A
then u ask B, .......theory B
ask C, .............. :-\ theory C

all these theory are contradictory to each other

BUT!
they all conform to the facts about nutrients, the rules for the mechanism about training inside your body.......

don't u ever feel confused here? ???

you need to exercise to get results..... that is FACT... not a theory...  (that is to build muscle).... you also need to eat right.... that's also a FACT...not a theory....

which part is confusing?
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 09:04:17 PM
you need to exercise to get results..... that is FACT... not a theory...  (that is to build muscle).... you also need to eat right.... that's also a FACT...not a theory....

which part is confusing?
e.g. ......

to do cardio as warm up or not before your weight exercise ::)
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: Superman on July 10, 2006, 09:09:23 PM
I knows the technology is changing everyday....

but.....

what can we lean on.....if there's nothing seems to be truth?

u want muscles? u want slim?
the answer is keep on doing exercise......

is it the only way around?

or u will just do it all?
(e.g. have "all around supplement", creatine, amino acid, glutamine....)
Amen Bro
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2006, 09:09:38 PM
e.g. ......

to do cardio as warm up or not before your weight exercise ::)

If your diet is right on, you should not even need to do cardio.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 09:16:16 PM
If your diet is right on, you should not even need to do cardio.
what?

reason?

no cardio but I can lose fat?
is it true? :-X
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 09:19:14 PM
e.g. ......

to do cardio as warm up or not before your weight exercise ::)

your muscles need to warm up before you lift heavy to prevent injury.... whether you do this by doing 5 minutes of cardio or doing a few light warm-up sets is up to you.....
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 09:24:47 PM
what?

reason?

no cardio but I can lose fat?
is it true? :-X

yes.... you just have to do it right....
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 09:51:48 PM
yes.... you just have to do it right....
can u tell me more details of your theory? ???
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 10:04:53 PM
can u tell me more details of your theory? ???

do you want the long version or the short version?
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 10:25:42 PM
do you want the long version or the short version?
can I ask for both? :P
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 10:36:30 PM
short version:
eat less (by creatign a caloric defecit, your body will be forced to use fat stores), stick to a diet high in protein ,low in carbs/fat, eat a small meal every few hours, time your carbs correctly, keep weight trainign intensity high....

Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2006, 10:38:30 PM
short version:
eat less (by creatign a caloric defecit, your body will be forced to use fat stores), stick to a diet high in protein ,low in carbs/fat, eat a small meal every few hours, time your carbs correctly, keep weight trainign intensity high....



Exactly.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 10:39:28 PM
lol.... i still think this is a useless thread....
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 10, 2006, 10:44:53 PM
short version:
eat less (by creatign a caloric defecit, your body will be forced to use fat stores), stick to a diet high in protein ,low in carbs/fat, eat a small meal every few hours, time your carbs correctly, keep weight trainign intensity high....


how was ur way to prevent catabolism in your theory?

it's extremely important in the situation u mentioned

I think if u r really engaging in high intensity weight training and also having low carbs diet
it's possibly u will "melt your muscle away" by taking not enough carbs
seems it just force your body to melt your muscle away
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 11:01:46 PM
you are preventing a catabolic state by feeding your body every few hours...

i said LOW carbs, not NO carbs.... enough to fuel your weight training workout... which means you would consume carbs BEFORE your workout to give you energy and AFTER your workout (with protein, of course) to replenish your glycogen stores (during exercise you break down muscle tissue, during recovery, muscles are rebuilt.... the whole process needs protein and carbs).... if your glycogen stores are not replenished i believe protein breakdown can still occur....

the key is to create an energy deficit in your system.... no, you will not lose fat SUPER QUICKLY, but you will lose it....

Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: Bast175 on July 10, 2006, 11:02:57 PM
Also rinse your beef and eat 15 tablespoons of olive oil every 6 hours.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on July 10, 2006, 11:04:22 PM
Also rinse your beef and eat 15 tablespoons of olive oil every 6 hours.

and a mango every day at noon! ;D
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2006, 11:04:29 PM
Also rinse your beef and eat 15 tablespoons of olive oil every 6 hours.

virgin or extra virgin?
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2006, 11:05:21 PM
and a mango every day at noon! ;D

(http://snl.jt.org/arc/char/ChKa-Mango.jpg)
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 11, 2006, 03:03:40 AM
Also rinse your beef and eat 15 tablespoons of olive oil every 6 hours.
I thought such big amount of oil taken into ur body will sure endanger the health of your liver :-\
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: smaul on July 11, 2006, 03:09:51 AM
I can see the benefits of washing the beef but are you serious about the olive oil?
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: The True Adonis on July 11, 2006, 04:50:15 AM
I can see the benefits of washing the beef but are you serious about the olive oil?

It is key.

Half range of motion must be utilized before extreme stretching also.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 11, 2006, 08:55:45 AM
useless thread ??? ???
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 11, 2006, 09:33:46 AM
useless thread ??? ???
did u ever get confused about different advice on ur weight/cardio training, in which they are all in different directions? ??? ::)
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: emn1964 on July 11, 2006, 09:38:56 AM
Are you serious or are you just screwing around with this thread?  The answer is that you ask 100 different people you will get almost 100 different answers because everyone responds differently to exercise and there is almost NO real science (no double blind studies for example) behind any of it.  Now go away.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 12, 2006, 03:09:44 AM
Are you serious or are you just screwing around with this thread?  The answer is that you ask 100 different people you will get almost 100 different answers because everyone responds differently to exercise and there is almost NO real science (no double blind studies for example) behind any of it.  Now go away.
pls remember

I am only trying to start a nice discussion here

never want to start any war here
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: Bluto on July 12, 2006, 04:05:26 AM
first you wanna make up your mind which type of physique it is that you're looking for.

are you looking for the physique of true adonis? or maybe alexxx? or 240 ? or vince?

after that we can get more specific
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: GoneAway on July 12, 2006, 04:27:36 AM
first you wanna make up your mind which type of physique it is that you're looking for.

are you looking for the physique of true adonis? or maybe alexxx? or 240 ? or vince?

after that we can get more specific

Or, maybe... Slim (Frank Zane/Swimmer's body), Moderate (Dexter Jackson/Victor Martinez), or Huge (Ronnie Coleman/Markus Ruhl).

As for BBing laws, I really can't think of any! Um... for training, I think the law is to find a program suitable for your goals (by gaining advice from books) and stick to it for 2 months. Change it up where neccessary after that, and keep trialing things. For any program, you need nutrition aswell, trust me! Let's say 30g protein + 50g carbs + 10g fat per meal, or thereabouts. All depends on your goal.
Title: Re: no LAW in bodybuilding..... except "keep on exercising" ????
Post by: New_Trainer on July 27, 2006, 12:11:05 PM
first you wanna make up your mind which type of physique it is that you're looking for.

are you looking for the physique of true adonis? or maybe alexxx? or 240 ? or vince?

after that we can get more specific
I just want to get my belly disappear ;)

I already did lose 20lbs of weight from my body(from 160lbs to 140lbs now, and I am 163cm tall)
but I still want my "waist back" (27" about 5-6 years ago)

later I will post my pic here to let u know why I want my belly gone ;)