It's been said that steroids can't turn a Volkswagon into a Ferrari but looking at these pictures I'd have to disagree.
pretty shitty example considering the top pic is taken after 1975, when he was either off almost off the juice.
Hmm...last time I checked that was called getting old.... ::)
But he's young in the first picture and still looks no more muscular than a tennis player.
So? Is he suppoed to stay in contest shape and weight for life? ::)First and last, yeah Arnold took Steroids as you plainly can say. I don't give a crap what anybody says. Genetics will only get you so far, and then you need a little help. I just don’t understand you work so hard to have a great body then you want something else and loose what you earned. Just get it naturally and you won’t worry about deflating.
Whats wrong with you,first you rag on steroids and then you want him to be on them all the time...
The only fact that matter is,when he needed to look great he did.
So? Is he suppoed to stay in contest shape and weight for life? ::)
Whats wrong with you,first you rag on steroids and then you want him to be on them all the time...
First and last, yeah Arnold took Steroids as you plainly can say. I don't give a crap what anybody says. Genetics will only get you so far, and then you need a little help. I just don’t understand you work so hard to have a great body then you want something else and loose what you earned. Just get it naturally and you won’t worry about deflating.
But he's young in the first picture and still looks no more muscular than a tennis player.
All I'm saying is that without steroids he is nothing special as both pictures prove. (He's probably even on them in the first picture and still looks like Joe Gymbag).
Yeah sure, tennis players always have 18" ARMS. ::)
But he's young in the first picture and still looks no more muscular than a tennis player.
looks no more muscular than a tennis player.Who gave this guy crack? ???
Here is the deal with Arnold.....
If he would have never juiced and trained naturally, he would have been a very impressive natural. His work ethic and determination would have put him ahead.
That said, Arnold did heavily use drugs at some points. Alot of him wa built that way for sure.
As opposed to some guys who go off and are still impressive at their natural levels.
Here is the deal with Arnold.....
That said, Arnold did heavily use drugs at some points. Alot of him wa built that way for sure.
OK, then name some and post some pictures to back it up. That top picture of Arnold looks a heck of a lot better than guys of today when they are off for a period of time.
And this picture looks a heck of a lot worse than any I've ever seen.
BTW anyone one here who feels compelled to defend him as always don't bother we alread know you're groupies. ;D
dont know about arnold, but i know this one dude... STALLONE, that looks pretty damn good for 60!
Hating on a post-op pic of a guy in his 50's is just fvcking retarded. When i got hurt years back I looked like death when I was released from the hospital.
Equally retarded to be so defensive-why the need to defend him? He looks just as bad in a recent magazine shot on the beach, so the post-op excuses no longer apply. 59's no longer so old if you care what you look like.
Get over it-he gotten plenty of accolades for the last 40 years so a little deserved criticism is just as fair; ain't nothin' wrong with it.
Besides which, he doesn't care at this point.
Equally retarded to be so defensive-why the need to defend him? He looks just as bad in a recent magazine shot on the beach, so the post-op excuses no longer apply. 59's no longer so old if you care what you look like.
He's gotten plenty of accolades for the last 40 years so a little deserved criticism is fair; ain't nothin' wrong with inserting a little reality.
Besides which, he doesn't care at this point. If he did, he might look more like Stallone who's seems more motivated now.
You still haven't backed up your claim that most who big time bodybuilders who went off the juice looked better than Arnold when he went off.
Don't have to, there are many guys who retain size later in life, as opposed to Schwarzenegger who was already looking somewhat human just a year after his retirement in the mid-70s when I saw him backstage at the Universe.
I have news for you Bluto: being in shape in your 40s with good genetics & regular workouts isn't much different than being in your 20s. :D
Ya it must be tough between the personal trainers, nutritionalist, free time and GH. hahaha
Yeah if it was easy, there would be loads of people looking like that, there isn't.
Actually you'd be wrong (again)-how many people have his lifestyle or means to carry it out for the last 30 years? Wrong again.
Basically you're saying that anyone that has time and money, can take no credit whatsoever, in their physique, at any age, let alone in their 60's?
Of course you think he's a great role model, even though in fact his motivation was/is entirely self-centered! Because you're an intense groupie you don't even see how much of a narcissist and ego-maniac he is.
No, I'm saying that they have tremendous advantages, which someone like you fails to grasp in your hero-worship.
So what if he's an ego-maniac, that comes with the territory of bodybuilding. What's that got to do with anything? He might have some advantages, but not unique by any means.
That's an utterly meaningless retort devoid of content. The defensiveness of a guy.
Lee Haney retired about 15 years ago but he still looks big enough to step on a stage tomorrow
now those are some TotaLEE Awesome genetics
Don't have to, there are many guys who retain size later in life, as opposed to Schwarzenegger who was already looking somewhat human just a year after his retirement in the mid-70s when I saw him backstage at the Universe.
Obviously he reacted to hormones in extreme fashion, a more dramatic change than even most pros. Which makes the whole thing seem all the more artificial when it's not retained.
As opposed to some guys who go off and are still impressive at their natural levels.
Come on. Give an example of Arnold coming off roids looking bad and some othe competitive body builder "still impressive" coming off roids. Back up your WEAK bullshit for once.
Come on. Give an example of Arnold coming off roids looking bad and some othe competitive body builder "still impressive" coming off roids. Back up your WEAK bullshit for once.
pretty shitty example considering the top pic is taken after 1975, when he was either off almost off the juice. and the second one was taken in his 50's after his heart surgery. a better example would be the post-op pic and a pic from T3. nice try tho, good luck next time.Agreed. I'm no fan of Arnies but the comparison pics are not fair at all!
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Come on. Give an example of Arnold coming off roids looking bad and some othe competitive body builder "still impressive" coming off roids. Back up your WEAK bullshit for once.
Lee Haney
Dorian Yates
Ronnie Coleman
Sergio Oliva
all look big without the sauce
Agreed. I'm no fan of Arnies but the comparison pics are not fair at all!
then there's the king of genetics himself, Jurrasic Paul Dillett. He weighs in at 260 with abs when he's clean
Flex Wheeler still looks good too
Lee Haney
Dorian Yates
Ronnie Coleman
Sergio Oliva
all look big without the sauce
Hahahahahahahahaha. It's not difficult for anyone with reasonable intelligence to figure out.
Ronnie off? Get real exactly when is Ronnie clean for an extended period of time? He is a fat blob in the off season. Yates? When have you seen a recent picture of him with his body exposed like that 1976 Arnold pic? Give me an example of Lee. Sergio, how the hell do you know what he looked like if he went off at 30? He is nearly 70 years old now.
then there's the king of genetics himself, Jurrasic Paul Dillett. He weighs in at 260 with abs when he's clean
Flex Wheeler still looks good too
How many times do you haters need to be told that guys like that come off the juice but ALSO come off the training and the diet because they don't care and there's no contest to train for.
Thank you. Genetics and maybe some work ethic.
You're reaching..the point's made-whether Coleman's fat or not he doesn't lose size the way Schwarzenegger did, which IMO suggests the muscle's a little more real.
It's already obvious-you go ahead and post pics disproving this.
The burdens on you pal. That 1976 Arnold pic proves my point. Its up to you to prove the other guys look better. I stated in an eatlier post you may be right but I doubted you could prove it. So try proving it and BACK UP YOUR STATEMENTS FOR ONCE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO WEASEL AROUND IT.
His muscles "more real"? Wow thats an intelligent statement. Arnold had quit competing. Ronnie was in his OFF SEASON. Big difference dork.
You're reaching..the point's made-whether Coleman's fat or not he doesn't lose size the way Schwarzenegger did, which IMO suggests the muscle's a little more real.
More real? WTF lmfao
Take it up with hoser "bmacsys"; you guys were meant for each other. :-*
Seriously have another meltdown and attack the angry hillbilly bmacsys. He's as clueless as they come and will be easy pickings for ya. ;)
ND uses this pic to show Yates with "striations". hahahahahahahahah
Keep running , you're the running man . whenever anyone calls your bluff and asks for you to back up your claim you run away . 3 people have called you out and you've ran from all of them. time to step up to the plate running man .
Seriously have another meltdown and attack the angry hillbilly bmacsys. He's as clueless as they come and will be easy pickings for ya. ;)
ND uses this pic to show Yates with "striations". hahahahahahahahahND morning meltdown pt. deux.. ;D ;D ;D
More pics of Arnold off and he still looks like a bodybuilder
is it me or is his right bicep alot bigger in 1 of the pics on the beach? In the other 2 it looks much flatter
Pumpster. You have ZERO credibility and YOU KNOW IT.
He knows it , he makes wild accusations and when people say " hey lets see some proof " he runs and when pushed he aviods the topic like the plauge . he knows he can't back up his claims thats why I call him the running man .
That's the whole point: he also has no pride. Wouldn't take that much to maintain with some degree of training & nutrition, the way others do.
You're reaching..the point's made-whether Coleman's fat or not he doesn't lose size the way Schwarzenegger did, which IMO suggests the muscle's a little more real.
He stated American bodybuilders were less intelligent than bodybuilders in other countries. He also claimed he was one of the very few guys on Getbig that know anything about training. What a dork. When called on both of these statements he doesn't respond. He just evades it.