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Title: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 18, 2006, 09:36:48 PM
Bodybuilders ARE going to continue to get bigger and bigger there is no doubt about it.

The problem is that doesn't automatically equate to getting better and it definitely is NOT heathier lets face it... who can deny Flex Wheeler looked his best at around 225lbs?

Why not impose an UPPER weight limit for contests determined by factoring in both the athlete's height and somatotype (basically their natural body type and skeletal size... wrist size is always a good indicator of this)

If a guy has a small wrist his max weight allowed is lower than a guy with a big wrist who is the same height (think nasser versus flex) and therefore skeleton - other athropometrical measures could of course be used.

F1 racing had to reduce the size of the engines to make their sport safer maybe we should limit the bodyweight of some of these guys before they start dropping dead at 40 which is where we are heading...
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Yev33 on July 18, 2006, 09:49:32 PM
If there was ever a weight limit, guys would just go to the extremes to get into condition and end up dropping dead backstage.
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 18, 2006, 09:53:16 PM
It might work if it were a sport.....but it isn't :P!!
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 18, 2006, 09:58:42 PM
If there was ever a weight limit, guys would just go to the extremes to get into condition and end up dropping dead backstage.
they'd know the limit a year before the show and could adjust easily.

i'm not talking about making ronnie come in at 240 but 265 maybe... that adjustment would mainly be a drug adjustment trust me he isn't 300 naturally.
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Sniffy 6-6 on July 18, 2006, 09:58:51 PM
It might work if it were a sport.....but it isn't :P!!

Mr limpone, finally something you and I agree on.  I will still call the competitors athletes though.  Anybody who competes is a fucking maniac and deserves respect.  Except for melvince
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 18, 2006, 10:02:39 PM
Mr limpone, finally something you and I agree on.  I will still call the competitors athletes though.  Anybody who competes is a fucking maniac and deserves respect.  Except for melvince

We agree on half. Their not athletes!
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 18, 2006, 10:04:46 PM
We agree on half. Their not athletes!
you are gonna get in trouble from 240 joe.... they're not their in that instance
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Sniffy 6-6 on July 18, 2006, 10:05:03 PM
Why arent they atheletes?
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 18, 2006, 10:07:11 PM
Why arent they atheletes?

For starters.....

Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 18, 2006, 10:11:05 PM
get over your bitterness already intenseone you just weren't pro material :-\

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Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 18, 2006, 10:14:39 PM
For starters.....


ronnie caught a sight of those monster titties next to him and needed the O2 thats all it was...
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Sniffy 6-6 on July 18, 2006, 10:15:11 PM
Pretty weak starter limpone...Sam Cassell

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/Sniffy6-6/2sam0526.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 18, 2006, 10:44:13 PM
Pretty weak starter limpone...Sam Cassell

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/Sniffy6-6/2sam0526.jpg)

The difference is Cassell actually did something to warrant his exhaustion!!
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Disgusted on July 18, 2006, 11:02:51 PM
Bodybuilders ARE going to continue to get bigger and bigger there is no doubt about it.

The problem is that doesn't automatically equate to getting better and it definitely is NOT heathier lets face it... who can deny Flex Wheeler looked his best at around 225lbs?

Why not impose an UPPER weight limit for contests determined by factoring in both the athlete's height and somatotype (basically their natural body type and skeletal size... wrist size is always a good indicator of this)

If a guy has a small wrist his max weight allowed is lower than a guy with a big wrist who is the same height (think nasser versus flex) and therefore skeleton - other athropometrical measures could of course be used.

F1 racing had to reduce the size of the engines to make their sport safer maybe we should limit the bodyweight of some of these guys before they start dropping dead at 40 which is where we are heading...



That's the stupidest thing I ever heard and you ought to be shot for saying it.
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 18, 2006, 11:09:38 PM
Okay boys you think the sport is going be better when guys weigh 320lbs in 4-5 years time?

Disgusted, your buddy kamali has ruined his career by gaining too much weight and abusing GH and insulin.

Bigger isn't always better.

Samir Bannout won the olympia at one of his lightest professional bodyweights btw...
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Disgusted on July 18, 2006, 11:11:48 PM
Bodybiulding is the greatest SPORRRRRRRRT on earth.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 18, 2006, 11:15:03 PM
Bodybiulding is the greatest SPORRRRRRRRT on earth.  ;D
Used to be...
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 18, 2006, 11:17:18 PM
Bodybiulding is the greatest SPORRRRRRRRT on earth.  ;D

What Earth are you talking about??
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 18, 2006, 11:18:33 PM
What Earth are you talking about??
showing his IQ again
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 18, 2006, 11:19:37 PM
showing his IQ again

Haha..got me ::)!!
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: MB on July 19, 2006, 09:01:44 AM
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The problem is that doesn't automatically equate to getting better and it definitely is NOT heathier lets face it... who can deny Flex Wheeler looked his best at around 225lbs?

Flex and just about everyone else looked their best when they weren't at their heaviest.  I think weight restriction is something the IFBB should consider.  Especially since the extra weight is usually carried in the midsection anyway.  Competitors would be more focused on refinement and small waists rather than mass at all costs no matter how it's carried.  Diuretics testing would have to be heavily enforced though, since conditioning would be a big factor.       

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We also need to limit the length possible in the long jump, and the lowest score in golf. How about capping the most home runs in a baseball season? Definitely.
 

Track athletes, golfers, and baseball players all have restrictions in their sport.  They have to use regulation equipment (track shoes, regulation golf balls, wooden bats), and bodybuilding basically has no rules.  Setting up rules for the sport helps legitimize it. 
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: bigmc on July 19, 2006, 09:10:02 AM
I dont think weight restrictions would work.

However if the ifbb followed their own mandate and punished bloated guts and poor aesthetics the athletes would come in lighter
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: dan18 on July 19, 2006, 09:12:27 AM
It might work if it were a sport.....but it isn't :P!!
I belive i have the right to speak on that ive done 4 shows.it realy isnt a sport in the terms we see it in.not baseball, football  hockey.we see them as sports bodybuilding is not a sport an event yes hard yes,
does it take the right mental and physical determination yes.still not a real sport..it has lost a large crowed over the years started dropping off after the early 90s..but dont for one minute think there not athletes.  
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Bluto on July 19, 2006, 09:17:39 AM
who cares what's healthier and what "helps the sport"

you think people who watch tour de france give a shit about the cyclists health?
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: dan18 on July 19, 2006, 09:21:05 AM
who cares what's healthier and what "helps the sport"

you think people who watch tour de france give a shit about the cyclists health?
They get more respect and endorsment mny thats for sure
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Big N on July 19, 2006, 09:22:03 AM
If there was ever a weight limit, guys would just go to the extremes to get into condition and end up dropping dead backstage.


lol as crazy as it sounds you're right bro
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Disgusted on July 19, 2006, 02:47:44 PM
showing his IQ again


My IQ and waist size are the same. I'm one smart mofo.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Sniffy 6-6 on July 21, 2006, 01:27:17 AM
Okay boys you think the sport is going be better when guys weigh 320lbs in 4-5 years time?

Disgusted, your buddy kamali has ruined his career by gaining too much weight and abusing GH and insulin.

Bigger isn't always better.

Samir Bannout won the olympia at one of his lightest professional bodyweights btw...

Guys weighing 320 onstage is like smoking cigarettes.  If you think there is anyone that does it without knowing the risks involved, youre retarded.  As for Kamali ruining his career, he seems to be doing ok.  As for Sammir, good job 20 YEARS AGO.
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: jwb on July 21, 2006, 02:25:06 AM
Guys weighing 320 onstage is like smoking cigarettes.  If you think there is anyone that does it without knowing the risks involved, youre retarded.  As for Kamali ruining his career, he seems to be doing ok.  As for Sammir, good job 20 YEARS AGO.
Walking out at 320 will require getting up to 350 minimum off season which is like smoking 5 packs a day.

Any really big guy will tell you once they get over 275 things start getting very uncomfortable from a cardiovascular standpoint.

I wanna know why progress in the sport HAS to involve guys gaining overall size? What about improving quality?

Shit, arnold weighed less in 1975 than he did in 1969 onstage but looked a lot better...
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Sniffy 6-6 on July 22, 2006, 01:18:20 PM
Subjectivity gets you no where in argument
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 22, 2006, 01:22:10 PM
Bodybiulding is the greatest SPORRRRRRRRT on earth.  ;D

Well...I'll let you know.....I may give this "sport" another shot :P!!
Title: Re: Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?
Post by: Bluto on July 22, 2006, 01:25:09 PM
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Anyone think an UPPER weight limit would help the sport?

No, but a lower IQ limit might