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Title: NY dealer popped
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2006, 12:23:47 PM
Man charged with possessing and distributing steroids
Updated: 7/19/2006 7:35 AM
By: Web Staff

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A month-long investigation has led to the arrest of a Schenectady man for possessing and distributing steroids.

Eric Rosa, 39, was arrested at his Jackson Avenue home Monday afternoon.

Police said $4,683 in cash, a computer and anabolic steroids in the form of liquid, pills and cream were seized during a search of his home.

Rosa is charged with fifth-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance, fifth-degree criminal possession of a controlled substance and first-degree reckless endangerment.

Rosa was arraigned and sent to the Schenectady County Jail.

The joint-investigation was conducted by the Schenectady Police Department's Vice Squad and the state Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement.

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Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: Dball on July 19, 2006, 12:38:46 PM
im not familiar with the laws or penalties in new york, being a texas boy.  what does that kind of thing carry?  i know that in new york county they usually cop offenders out to a lesser charge.  what will happen to this guy, assuming he doesnt have any related priors?  any one from the big apple want to shed a little light?

dustin
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2006, 12:53:35 PM
i dunno.  but i figured with so many reading getbig, he might be a supplier, or a supplier of a friend, etc, so any time a bust can be shared, it's a good thing.


And on that note, 10 things that can save your ass;;;;

"Psst! PSSST!! ::::whispers:::: You. You over there. Yeah, you. Come here. Have I got a deal for you!"

Okay, maybe no one has ever approached you in this manner, but just because someone doesn't solicit you to buy drugs in your gym, doesn't mean that they aren't there at the ready to do just that!

Steroids have largely gone way underground once more because of the stiff laws on AS possession, use and distribution. For a gym rat like you, that's both good and bad news. It's good news because you are less likely to get caught if care is taken to be discreet, but it's also bad news because it's harder to find someone who is willing to sell to a newbie like you!

Fact is, there's a whole protocol for procuring AS these days. The FIRST STEP is this: Be sure this is something you've really thought about doing. Ask yourself these simple questions:

Do I have legitimate and lofty athletic aspirations that almost require that I take AS?
Have I gone the distance with natural training to build a foundation? Could that foundation be taken any further without AS?
Is AS use worth the risk for my life? Am I a husband? Father? Do I have a good job?

If I were to be caught, could I take the consequences? Could I do jail time and not lose everything in my life? What would it do to my self-esteem and social standing if I were to face legal consequences?
Do I have the extra money it takes to purchase expensive black market AS? Am I dipping into mortgage money or car payment money to buy them, or is this disposable income that is mine to use?
Is there another "grey market" or otherwise legal steroid equivilant on the market that will get me the results I am looking for without all the risk, like pro-hormones used to be, and ATP is now?
Most people will fail the previous test and some are bound and determined to procure their first cycle of AS. And if that's your story, you need to find someone you can trust - both to preserve your anonymity, and to provide you with authentic gear!

So how does one go about this? Well, after questioning your reasons and deciding to go forward, the SECOND STEP is to become a regular member of a gym - become the guy who shows up 4-5 days a week and becomes a "known entity". Remember, just because you show up though, doesn't mean you'll automatically be invited into a circle of those who sell AS. They are more suspicious than you are because they are selling them and don't want you to be an undercover cop who rolls all over them and sends them packing to prison!

The THIRD STEP is to let people know WHO you are and WHAT you do for a living. If a dealer knows you go to work at a mortgage firm, and not a police station, they'll be more likely to sell to you because they know it's impossible that you're undercover.

The FOURTH STEP is to make friends with guys in the gym. Get to know people by training with them, hanging out with them, and talking to them about your goals. Once they know you want what they want - to achieve the best body you can - they'll be more likely to let you into their circle of friends and network of resources. Let them know that you are considering doing AS and pay attention to their reactions. Don't pry or push people by approaching those you hardly know, or don't know at all, asking "Who sells drugs here?"

The FIFTH STEP is to confide in someone whom you know likely takes AS on a regular basis. Pick their brains about what they did to achieve the level of physique they currently have. Ask about cycles and do some independent homework on your own so you aren't speaking ignorantly about AS. You don't want to sound like a total newbie, so go online to discussion boards like forum.juststeroids.com or www.getbig.com and read for awhile before posting. Then ask some simple questions to get an idea of how to banter about AS use.

The SIXTH STEP is to finally ask someone you trust and now know or have trained with, for advice on how to procure them and what to put together for the "first time".

If it's not your first time, you probably can skip a lot of these steps, but not the social steps that require getting to know people gradually.

The SEVENTH STEP is to really know and trust that you are dealing with someone who will not sell you junk or fake drugs before you shell out the cash. Obviously, ordering online, unless you know how to do it and know the source is good by word of mouth, is the riskiest way to procure AS. You'd never be able to find the person who sold you fake gear, and you'd be out a lot of money. The advantage to buying in your gym is that the guy who sells to you has to see you everyday. He's less likely to sell you fake or counterfeit gear.

The EIGHTH STEP, and this is most important, is to keep your mouth shut. Don't ever talk about what you bought, that you do drugs, or who you get your supply from. Being discreet is really key in keeping your nose clean, and building a good physique without any consequences. Don't overdo it.

The NINTH STEP is to not buy more than you need at one time. I think the temptation is to buy more than you need for fear your supply or supplier is going to run out or get arrested and then you'll have to start over in this process and won't know who to trust for too long. But the fact is, the more you possess and the more it exceeds the reasonable level of personal use, the more you could look like a dealer if you stockpile. That carries a much stiffer legal sentence, so you'll want to keep only personal use amounts on hand.

The TENTH STEP is to be careful with your gear. That means two things: Store it correctly (if it is heat sensitive) and be careful with where you keep it. Don't flash it around, or bring it to the gym to swallow or inject in the locker room! Keep it stashed someplace other than your house, too, if you can. It's always better to not have the association. If it's found at your house because a lover leaves and turns you in, or someone tips off the cops under any circumstance, you'll be caught with your pants down dead to rights if you have it in your closet.

Good luck!
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Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 12:58:45 PM
i know the guy
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2006, 01:01:17 PM
he a nice guy?

it's a shame that they spent the manhours they did chasing down a guy helping others improve their bodies when in many ghettoes you see guys selling crack on corners near school with zero repercussions. :(

Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: ZEEK on July 19, 2006, 01:13:38 PM
I think the laws for steroids are the same no matter what state your in
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 01:14:09 PM
yesh, he really  helps , sometimes i really do not understand polices terms and conditions,
sometimes u could kill someone and still walk like normal , not quilty guy,
and sometimes pass the red light and been arrested !

so stupid  
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 01:15:01 PM
i read the federal steroids law, it is same for all states...
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: Rimbaud on July 19, 2006, 01:16:45 PM
i know the guy

Really?
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 01:21:39 PM
well not personally,  by email
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: ZEEK on July 19, 2006, 01:22:44 PM
I hate when these kind of people are not safe they get everyone busted.

they dont watch who they sell to. the supplier becomes greedy and doesnt care who he sells to and wonders how they got busted.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 01:28:58 PM
yeah zeek,
go hard or go home
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: emn1964 on July 19, 2006, 01:29:41 PM
i read the federal steroids law, it is same for all states...

Wrong.  There are two sets of laws at issue with regard to steroid busts.  There are federal laws against the sale, possession, mfg and use of steroids.  There are also state laws the criminalize the same thing.  The penalties under the federal law and under the states laws may be different.  In this case, this idiot was nailed by state guys so the law at issue is New York law.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 01:36:19 PM
there is a feredal drug law !!
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: Overload on July 19, 2006, 01:43:20 PM
he a nice guy?

it's a shame that they spent the manhours they did chasing down a guy helping others improve their bodies when in many ghettoes you see guys selling crack on corners near school with zero repercussions. :(



i agree completely...i see people slanging dope all the time and jacking people for drugs and money. so they bust the guy helping men become muscular and strong? i just don't get it anymore...sure, gear can be harmfull and i don't agree with people using gear in tested divisions but for the average gear user it is nothing the law should worry about.

 8)
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 01:46:20 PM
cigar could be dangerous too, but ...who care for cigar
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: whitewidow on July 19, 2006, 02:01:23 PM
laws are fcked up- but they are laws- steroids looks better than drugs - I bet the guy is already home- probably get probation and thats it-
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 02:07:39 PM
maybe he pays caution , $20000 ;D
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: whitewidow on July 19, 2006, 02:11:17 PM
the guy had under 5,000$ and they consider that federal- I wonder how much product he had- 5g's is chump change- their are highschool and college kids who are dealing heavier than that. on another note- the dude must not have sold anchilleries- hes water logged-
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: emn1964 on July 19, 2006, 02:11:53 PM
there is a feredal drug law !!

Isn't that what I just wrote?  There are federal laws re:steroids and state laws re:steroids.  This is a state case.  Not really a difficult concept.  States have differing penalties for steroid related crimes.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 02:23:51 PM
missunderstanding
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: emn1964 on July 19, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
missunderstanding

Our next seminar will be on the 4th amendment as it relates to drug crimes.--LOL
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 02:37:32 PM
u have my vote, !

whan u say OUR who do you refer to
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: emn1964 on July 19, 2006, 02:43:28 PM
u have my vote, !

whan u say OUR who do you refer to

Just f'ing around dude.  If you really are interested in this topic Rick Collins is THE man on steroid related crimes.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 02:53:45 PM
o yeah , i read some text about rick collins...

as i said u have my vote!
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2006, 02:58:13 PM
Just f'ing around dude.  If you really are interested in this topic Rick Collins is THE man on steroid related crimes.

yeah, he's the guy to get.  i just posted in case anyone here had been getting a shoebox each week form this guy, you might not want to sign for the next one.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: ZEEK on July 19, 2006, 03:22:30 PM
does anyone know what UG name he goes by?
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: hendog on July 19, 2006, 05:27:13 PM
Our next seminar will be on the 4th amendment as it relates to drug crimes.--LOL
I wouldn't mind hearing a seminar that explains in a manner I can ingest and accept why steroids are illegal and yet tabacco and alcohol isn't. This country has it very ass backwards man  :-\. As far as the fella that got popped is concerned I consider him a legitimate business man the same way I would GNC (which I don't shop at because they are expensive as hell) or the local buffalo wing stand. He was providing a needed service without malicious intent or harm to his clients and gets busted for it. WTF ??? I wish these fuckers would just legalize it and tax it so everyone is happy. We get our products legally and the government gets thier fucking money which is all that matters to them.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 20, 2006, 04:43:45 AM
Yeah driving to work yesterday, for some reason a sign caught my eye, just a typical sign on a store front.  It read "Liquor and cigarettes".  Then I thought are not those things responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths in USA in many different ways, from drunk driving to lung cancer and heart disease??  But yet her is this big sign that the general public accepts.  If anything should be targeted by the government to ban it should be those things.  Any logic would say eliminate what is the highest risk......but thats if they really care about your well being.  Which they don't.  Everyone cares about one thing and one thing only...............the $$$$.....thats it. 

So they go after steroids............no real dough for them to make there, too small of a market.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 20, 2006, 04:52:22 AM
Yeah driving to work yesterday, for some reason a sign caught my eye, just a typical sign on a store front.  It read "Liquor and cigarettes".  Then I thought are not those things responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths in USA in many different ways, from drunk driving to lung cancer and heart disease??  But yet her is this big sign that the general public accepts.  If anything should be targeted by the government to ban it should be those things.  Any logic would say eliminate what is the highest risk......but thats if they really care about your well being.  Which they don't.  Everyone cares about one thing and one thing only...............the $$$$.....thats it. 

So they go after steroids............no real dough for them to make there, too small of a market.
man you are completely right...
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: BigPopa on July 20, 2006, 05:46:22 AM
luv2hurt, I have thought and said the exact same thing but to take it a step further those things you mention not only effect the people abusing them but innocent people around them as well.  When is the last time you heard of a person getting jacked up on gear, leaving the gym and killing a car load of people.  But every 33 seconds in America someone is killed by a drunk driver, that is staggering to me.  The only reason the government lets that shit go and comes down on steroids is because they regulate one but not the other for tax purposes.  All about money.
You know if you want to kill yourself by all means that should be you right, where you cross the line with me is when innocent people are involved.  See ya.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: emn1964 on July 20, 2006, 09:09:37 AM
I wouldn't mind hearing a seminar that explains in a manner I can ingest and accept why steroids are illegal and yet tabacco and alcohol isn't. This country has it very ass backwards man  :-\. As far as the fella that got popped is concerned I consider him a legitimate business man the same way I would GNC (which I don't shop at because they are expensive as hell) or the local buffalo wing stand. He was providing a needed service without malicious intent or harm to his clients and gets busted for it. WTF ??? I wish these fuckers would just legalize it and tax it so everyone is happy. We get our products legally and the government gets thier fucking money which is all that matters to them.

When you can find a logical explanation post it.  Other than some people abuse them and everyone knows that the government knows what is best for us it makes no sense to me.  The argument for legalizing steroids also would have to apply to all prescription medications.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: Arnold jr on July 20, 2006, 11:12:47 AM
Yeah driving to work yesterday, for some reason a sign caught my eye, just a typical sign on a store front.  It read "Liquor and cigarettes".  Then I thought are not those things responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths in USA in many different ways, from drunk driving to lung cancer and heart disease??  But yet her is this big sign that the general public accepts.  If anything should be targeted by the government to ban it should be those things.  Any logic would say eliminate what is the highest risk......but thats if they really care about your well being.  Which they don't.  Everyone cares about one thing and one thing only...............the $$$$.....thats it. 

So they go after steroids............no real dough for them to make there, too small of a market.
The market size is the key factor. There are not enough people who use or want to use gear, so that plays a huge role in the whole thing. If there was a large market and it was still illegal, then there would be a problem. Remember, they tried banning alcohol in the 30's with the prohibition laws and it created the largest increase on organized crime ever. So it all comes down to demand and controll. If the majority of the people or at least a large portion want something bad enough, the government will eventually let them have it be it a good or bad thing, as long as there is money to be made and if they realize they can't controll the underground market in the first place. As long as the gear users population is non existence in comparison to the over all population, it will remain underground even if it doesn't rightfully deserve to be.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: iron270cal on July 20, 2006, 12:54:29 PM
does anyone know the name of his UGL??
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: Special Ed on July 20, 2006, 02:43:09 PM
yeah, he's the guy to get.  i just posted in case anyone here had been getting a shoebox each week form this guy, you might not want to sign for the next one.
If you're smart, you never sign for anything.
If you've gotten seizure notices in the past, you're crazy if you sign.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: Rimbaud on July 20, 2006, 08:55:39 PM
If you're smart, you never sign for anything.
If you've gotten seizure notices in the past, you're crazy if you sign.

Good call. Never ever sign for a package if you're expecting gear in the mail.
Title: Re: NY dealer popped
Post by: coolioni on July 20, 2006, 09:03:31 PM
make sure to tell your dealer to send it so it will not require a signature.
Then if someone comes just don't answer the door.
Hopefully they will just leave it, if they don't and it is not a big pack, then you know something may be fishy!