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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ex Coelis on July 20, 2006, 03:16:39 PM
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In his segement of the BFTO 2005, Kris Dim claimed that Asians fare poorly as pro bodybuilders because they have genetically thicker skin.
Somehow I don't think this is their only short-comming . . .
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Hahahaha...thick skin would be the least of their concerns. They're just funny looking thats all...
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By far the Worst Genetics for Bodybuilding.
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Being filled with oil makes your skin appear thick as well.
Double whammy for Dim.
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Truly a Dim man.
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Asians get big calves and the men get hot asian chicks as well!
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Asians get big calves!
In their asses.
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If this statement were true, they would be awesome boxers and less prone to bleeding. Thickness of skin is BS excuse. All bodybuilders who take test and/or GH develop thicker skin over time. Doesn't stop ronnie from winning does it?
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I think it has to do more with height most Asian bodybuilders are short and that in bodybuilding holds all races back , and his lack of balance is a severe liabilty .
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That is a poor excuse also because one of the most cut individuals ever, to really make people say.."that guy has not an ounce of a fat on him", was none other than Bruce Lee !!!
thick skin not...
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Asians get big calves and the men get hot asian chicks as well!
most asians do have badass calves
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most asians do have badass calves
Check out Kozo Sudos calves . sick !!
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I think it has to do more with height most Asian bodybuilders are short and that in bodybuilding holds all races back , and his lack of balance is a severe liabilty .
height is highly correlated with prosperity. lot more tall Koreans and Chinese today than 20 years ago, both here in the US and over in Asia. The Korean section of L.A. is nearby, and I see lots of 6' - 6'2" guys in their late teens, early 20s.
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height is highly correlated with prosperity. lot more tall Koreans and Chinese today than 20 years ago, both here in the US and over in Asia. The Korean section of L.A. is nearby, and I see lots of 6' - 6'2" guys in their late teens, early 20s.
my cousin karl is half korean and he is 6'5" My uncle is only 5'10" (the white side) and aunt gail is about 5'4"
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South east asians i.e Cambodians, Vietnames, Thai etc. are genetically the smallest people in the world. Being an ectomorph with terrible bone structure and lack of height are major shortcomings for bodybuilding.
In Japan there are some very big guys nowadays with huge bone structures and gigantic calves, however with very strict drug laws it's almost impossible to get gear and muscular physiques are not the ideal.
Every idiot wants to play soccer or baseball, gyms are full of housewives and retired men.
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By far the Worst Genetics for Bodybuilding.
genetics don't make the champion, steriods and among other things do ;)
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Maybe it's because their gyms suck.
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete-Crete/2377/bigtoe.home.training.2003.html (http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete-Crete/2377/bigtoe.home.training.2003.html)
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height is highly correlated with prosperity. lot more tall Koreans and Chinese today than 20 years ago, both here in the US and over in Asia. The Korean section of L.A. is nearby, and I see lots of 6' - 6'2" guys in their late teens, early 20s.
that and they aren;t pickin rice anymore
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In Japan there are some very big guys nowadays with huge bone structures and gigantic calves, however with very strict drug laws it's almost impossible to get gear and muscular physiques are not the ideal
Steroids are legal in Japan. Really, they are. Check it out for yourself...
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height is highly correlated with prosperity. lot more tall Koreans and Chinese today than 20 years ago, both here in the US and over in Asia. The Korean section of L.A. is nearby, and I see lots of 6' - 6'2" guys in their late teens, early 20s.
don't forget yao ming :P
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most asians do have badass calves
They frequently have a very cool, very low, very delineated soleus insertion. Very cool indeed. IMO.
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Phillipinos are the worst bodybuilders. They have Big Heads, Fat little bodies with narrow frames. They respond horribly to steroids and have awful muscle insertions.
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have u ever thought that asians just cant see themselves in the mirror :) :P
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why did that creep me out
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they have horrible insertion point such as the quads i'd post pics to prove this but its not worth the thought
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Supposedly Bruce Lee's muscle had the texture of wet marble.
monster uncomfortable
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Phillipinos are the worst bodybuilders. They have Big Heads, Fat little bodies with narrow frames. They respond horribly to steroids and have awful muscle insertions.
just off the top of my head...
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Supposedly Bruce Lee's muscle had the texture of wet marble.
WTF
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Still called thick skin?
(http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/o09i/imgs/2/0/2026bae9.jpg)
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Check out Kozo Sudos calves . sick !!
He is not Kozo Sudo but Shigeru Sugita.
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they still cant drive worth a sh*t!
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f196/terrylynnpa/chinesepeople.jpg)
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Steroids are legal in Japan. Really, they are. Check it out for yourself...
Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Asians are naturally way smaller in size/build, that's why.
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Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
Whoops... You're right... A friend of mine who was recently in Japan told me that they were legal there -- and although I took him at his word, he was wrong. I just checked it out for myself and it would seem that steroids in Japan are both very illegal and very hard to come by. Apologies for doubting you, bro.
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Phillipinos are the worst bodybuilders. They have Big Heads, Fat little bodies with narrow frames. They respond horribly to steroids and have awful muscle insertions.
f**k you adonis, take that back or face utter destruction, I will give you a chance before I commence...I will fucking destroy you!!
I dont care if I dont win the Mr. GetBig , but this filopino will destroy the True Adonis...thanks dickhead, your just throwing more gasoline on the flame of motivaiton burning inside !!
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Hahahaha...thick skin would be the least of their concerns. They're just funny looking thats all...
the weights dont like em like that..lol
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Still called thick skin?
(http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/o09i/imgs/2/0/2026bae9.jpg)
who is that? Chris Faldo? Mega ripped.
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f**k you adonis, take that back or face utter destruction, I will give you a chance before I commence...I will fucking destroy you!!
I dont care if I dont win the Mr. GetBig , but this filopino will destroy the True Adonis...thanks dickhead, your just throwing more gasoline on the flame of motivaiton burning inside !!
hahhahhha,
Philipinos are just awful looking...Why do you guys have such big block heads? And why are most of you Skinny-fat?
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hahhahhha,
Philipinos are just awful looking...Why do you guys have such big block heads? And why are most of you Skinny-fat?
a lot of them are ladyboys.
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For bodybuilding yes but why are their so many good boxers, kick boxers and other types of fighters, all at lighter weights, but cut and built for combat for sure. They're just naturally smaller so they could never step on the stage with pro's with no weight limits.
I was just looking at the IBF (boxing) ratings and the top in the top 10 boxers from light weight down through jr. flyweight their are only 7 Americans out of 90 boxers under 135 lbs. Most are from Mexico, Nicaragua, Thialand and the other countries that don't produce 250+ lb bodybuilders. Maby its a macho thing but I guess they know even with pro cards they wouldn't make dime 1 competing in bodybuilding. The NPC is full of bb from these countries, at the lighter weights but they know their limitations.
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you expect an asian to take out ronnie or what
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Most Asians are very lean. Thick skin comes from friction (i.e. callouses)
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asians were warned against pursuing bodybuilding since they were little kids because bodybuilding the sport is not exactly the healthiest or the sanest thing to do. their parents are very strict. it costs so much money to eat that much and so much of ur health to use so much steroids. most asians become physcians or lawyers or go into investment banking, at least the ones i know.
i let go of my dream in becoming a competitive bodybuilder a long time ago and am now pursuing my MD tho the spirit of bodybuilding still continues on.
yes most asians have tiny bones and structures but when they gain muscles it makes them look really muscular and not big framed large but packed and dense.
not true all the time but for the most part asian people IN USA who arent below 5 7' and have muscles acutally attract alot of women and alot of gay men. when asians get muscular they have this undescribable elegance to their appearance and they arent usually seen as meatheads because they also are smart in other trades. (Honestly when we think of meatheads sadly but typically we think of large framed caucasians with acne all over their big backs and bald guys usually )
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i saw this documentary on competitive eaters and Kobayashi was in the gym doing partial deads with about 6 plates per side. he has packed on like 40-50 pounds of lean mass since he first came to america to do competitive eating. he is jacked now...here he has just finished eating 67 hamburgers at some eating contest in 2005
(http://www.adpulp.com/archives/kobayashi.jpg)
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It's genetics, period. Blacks have the best genetics for bodybuilding, followed by whites, followed by asians.
Of course there are many individual differences and exceptions, but as a general principle this is true.
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True, there are exceptions tho. I think the best bodybuilders (in terms of overall symmetry/ proportions and overall looks / mass and aesthetics) are the mixed races. White/Black Asian/ Black or Asian/ White
Blacks are no doubt the best but they have alot of kidney / hypertension probs...thats part of their genetics
Ronnie coleman is not black, hes a dark super creature from another planet
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Blacks are no doubt the best but they have alot of kidney / hypertension probs...thats part of their genetics
I have hypertension, it runs in my mothers family, plus my job doesn't help. My dad doesn't.
It has been said that hypertension may be related to the malnutrition in the slaves during the Middle Passage, and that is could be the reason why so many blacks are sensitive to sodium. Just a theory.
f**k you adonis, take that back or face utter destruction, I will give you a chance before I commence...I will fucking destroy you!!
I dont care if I dont win the Mr. GetBig , but this filopino will destroy the True Adonis...thanks dickhead, your just throwing more gasoline on the flame of motivaiton burning inside !!
What about that Filipino bber from the early to mid 90's. Romeo Villano, or something. He was pretty descent, but had high ass lats. He was dark as hell to, with long gay ass hair...
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True, there are exceptions tho. I think the best bodybuilders (in terms of overall symmetry/ proportions and overall looks / mass and aesthetics) are the mixed races. White/Black Asian/ Black or Asian/ White
black/white or black/mexican are best
Dillett was the former and he had some of the best bb genetics ever
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also, blatant faggotry is very rare among asians.
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Alan ichonise.was great bber from late eighties and early nineties
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Asians are naturally way smaller in size/build, that's why.
This is silly since most successful bodybuilders are short-asses in the scheme of things. You pretty much have to be under 6 foot these days. Dex, Lee etc are pretty short but Dorian and Jay are only a whopping 5'9", jesus most of my mates are taller than this.
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who is that? Chris Faldo? Mega ripped.
A Japanese top level natural BBer called Zaizen.
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Sonny Schmidt was Samoan, and huge as hell, plus "Chinese Hercules" son used to train with Flex Wheeler, he looked pretty good, had a great chest
. when asians get muscular they have this undescribable elegance to their appearance and they arent usually seen as meatheads because they also are smart in other trades.
yeah right keep telling yourself this, over and over again. "Undescribable elegance", I want to toke on what you're smokin'. Whether they be Asian or otherwise those who are heavily into bbing, sacrifice in other areas as well. It's not right, and I beleive people should be balanced, but that is the way it is. And aren't a lot of Asians trying to get away from the smart/ nerdy stereotype? Look at Kris Dim, Max Muscle store owner, owner of questionable arms, married to a white woman, but yet wants to be a role model for other Asians ( just get jacked, lie about your arms, diss Asian women, and get a fake breasted blonde chick, that is the way).
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lol!!!
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I'm Vietnamese and I have to admit we asians have to work a lot harder than white, black and hispanic guys when it comes to bodybuilding because we are not as blessed genetically. Plus, most asian cultures are not big on bodybuilding they view it as threatening to one's life longetivity (even without the steroids). When I was younger my mother absolutely wanted me to stay away from weight training and supplements but eventually she gave up. Despite my less than ideal genetics, in my circle of friends, I don't know any white, black, or hispanic guy who has a better physique than me. Hard work pays off.
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Dim is partially right. Sort of lol. Asians do have a thicker layer of fat under their skin. It's something whites and blacks lack. That's not the reason there aren't as many in bodybuilding though. There are many reasons for that.
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also, blatant faggotry is very rare among asians.
let me take you to some clubs in LA.
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Dim is partially right. Sort of lol. Asians do have a thicker layer of fat under their skin. It's something whites and blacks lack. That's not the reason there aren't as many in bodybuilding though. There are many reasons for that.
He's not pratially right, are you saying that a whole continent of people have the same skin and genetics? Go to a few bodybuilding shows in asia and you'll see guys ripped to the bone. Not many have pro sized mass but you'll see guys at every show in way better condition than Dim gets. He's just trying to find an excuse when in reality he seems more dedicated to his business and his family.
I'm Vietnamese and I have to admit we asians have to work a lot harder than white, black and hispanic guys when it comes to bodybuilding because we are not as blessed genetically. Plus, most asian cultures are not big on bodybuilding they view it as threatening to one's life longetivity (even without the steroids). When I was younger my mother absolutely wanted me to stay away from weight training and supplements but eventually she gave up. Despite my less than ideal genetics, in my circle of friends, I don't know any white, black, or hispanic guy who has a better physique than me. Hard work pays off.
Good post, post a picture cold
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He's not pratially right, are you saying that a whole continent of people have the same skin and genetics? Go to a few bodybuilding shows in asia and you'll see guys ripped to the bone. Not many have pro sized mass but you'll see guys at every show in way better condition than Dim gets. He's just trying to find an excuse when in reality he seems more dedicated to his business and his family.
That's scientific fact. I don't know if it applies to every group of Asians, but it applies to many. It doesn't mean they can't get ripped. I'm saying in Dim's dim mind, he put two and two together. In other words, yes, he's making excuses.
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parker, I like your response. I think what you said is true actually and it is pretty funny.
I guess what i meant by the elegance is that most asians bodybuilders or wannabe bodybuilders sport a 6 pack more often than do other races / they try to keep it lean and not big bulky all the time. We see alot of big chunky white kids at the gym thinking they are the next jay cutler when they infact do look like bloated mini off season jay cutler.
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parker, I like your response. I think what you said is true actually and it is pretty funny.
I guess what i meant by the elegance is that most asians bodybuilders or wannabe bodybuilders sport a 6 pack more often than do other races / they try to keep it lean and not big bulky all the time. We see alot of big chunky white kids at the gym thinking they are the next jay cutler when they infact do look like bloated mini off season jay cutler.
An asian guy will still never be Mr.O. You sound jealous haha. You probably weigh 145 pounds, but at least you are "elegant." hahaha.
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An asian guy will still never be Mr.O.
just like an Asian will never play in the NBA
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nope, sounds like ur offended from the chunky kids part.. but thats coo. i was 145 lbs 7 years ago and yes i did sport a 6 pack back then. and yes i dont sport one during off season right now. i am more like the jay cutler wannabe chunky bloated kids right now but i still recognize the counterparts. you are absolutely right. i dont think pure asian breed can ever attain the olympia status, maybe back then in the 60s or 70s but no way they can attain that type of muscularity. they have very frail frame and its too hard for them to get any more packed than kris dim. tall asian guys have way to high metabolism or they just crap out everything they eat. ive known several tall 6 feet above asians using lots of steroids and still look really tiny when standing alone.
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over 1 billion twerps served
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I noticed nobody mentioned Bolo Yeung.Dude's built like a brick shithouse.From
Enter The Dragon('70) to present.He's had an impresive build.This cant be denied.
But he is an exception.
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That's scientific fact. I don't know if it applies to every group of Asians, but it applies to many. It doesn't mean they can't get ripped. I'm saying in Dim's dim mind, he put two and two together. In other words, yes, he's making excuses.
Scientific fact my ass, post some evidence. The two main causes for thick skin are ichthyoses and diabetes, both of which are not predominantly higher in asians, let alone applying to all asians.
BTW Tim Fogarty, Yuta Tabuse played for the phoenix suns
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just like an Asian will never play in the NBA
Exactly: Alexxx is (Cauc)Asian though... ;)
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Exactly: Alexxx is (Cauc)Asian though... ;)
I am the best white baller.
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just like an Asian will never play in the NBA
Oh really??
Guy is over 7 feet tall.
(http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/wallpaper0203_wang_800x600.jpg)
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BTW Tim Fogarty, Yuta Tabuse played for the phoenix suns
there are many Asians that play in the NBA. that was my point. to make generalized statements about any group of people will most always get you in trouble.
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Wow, that dude is ripped!
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i've always said boby building judging standards are racially biased
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Scientific fact my ass, post some evidence. The two main causes for thick skin are ichthyoses and diabetes, both of which are not predominantly higher in asians, let alone applying to all asians.
BTW Tim Fogarty, Yuta Tabuse played for the phoenix suns
I don't feel passionate enough about this subject to prove you wrong. There are alot of things you don't know, this is one. I'm more educated than most though. Look it up yourself. I don't care if you don't believe me.
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Chong Li! Chong Li! Chong Li!
(http://www.jiggscasey.com/images/movies/bloodsport-chongli.jpg)
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I don't feel passionate enough about this subject to prove you wrong. There are alot of things you don't know, this is one. I'm more educated than most though. Look it up yourself. I don't care if you don't believe me.
You're full of shit. I do know a lot about this one as my wife's a Japanese beautician and she said you're full of shit too. You may be educated but if you were educated in this area you would have access to info, which you don't. Post some evidence and prove your ridiculous theory that is obviously based on heresay.
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I am the best white baller.
Is this an inside saying between your family meaning you like to suck on white guys balls. Why are you so prejudice.
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have u ever thought that asians just cant see themselves in the mirror :) :P
Like vampires?
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height is highly correlated with prosperity. lot more tall Koreans and Chinese today than 20 years ago, both here in the US and over in Asia. The Korean section of L.A. is nearby, and I see lots of 6' - 6'2" guys in their late teens, early 20s.
In my family, the Italians who were born and raised in Italy but then came over are all at least 6 inches shorter than their kids who were born here. Huge difference. My father was born there but raised here, and he's as tall as me, 6'1".