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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: PESTO on July 21, 2006, 11:01:46 AM
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I am thinking of running a 10 week cycle of Test Cyp and Deca. My question is, can I mix the two together in the same needle to save having to stick myself, or do they have to be seperate?
Here's the stack:
400mg Test Cyp per wk
400mg Deca per wk
20mg Nolva per day
Feedback?
Thanks
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Yes, you can mix the two together. That being said I'd make the following changes:
Weeks 1-10 Test C 500mg
Weeks 1-5 Dbol 25-50mg ED
Since it's your first cycle you can forget about the Deca. Save it for the next one. I would also only use the Nolva as needed & for PCT.
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they can be mixed together. but your test should be higher then the deca.
500 or 600mg of test
200 or 300 of deca
or what Rim said ;D
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or this :
1-10 week test c 500 mg a week
1-8 week deca 400 mg a week
1-6 week dbol 30 mg ed
nolva 20 mg ed
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I am thinking of running a 10 week cycle of Test Cyp and Deca. My question is, can I mix the two together in the same needle to save having to stick myself, or do they have to be seperate?
Here's the stack:
400mg Test Cyp per wk
400mg Deca per wk
20mg Nolva per day
Feedback?
Thanks
I don't like it. Test is great for a first cycle. It's best to keep the test to deca ratio at no more than 3:2 due to some of the libido problems that can occur with deca.
You can do test only to see how well you respond. I would do 500mg per week. I love deca, but at that test dose I would have you down at the 200-300mg range for the deca. dbol at 25-50 mg per day or anadrol at 50mg per day for about 4 weeks is also nice to "jumpstart" your cycle because the test and deca won't kick in for several weeks.
I think nolva is a poor choice for anti-estrogen during a cycle. Nolva is an estrogen receptor blocker (like clomid). You'll still produce the estrogen but it will not bind to it's receptor. It has a particularly strong affinity for periareolar tissue, and is best used as a backup during a cycle for a short course if any gyno occurs. It is very effective in this regard. During your cycle, you are better off taking a compound that blocks the conversion of test to estrogen, so-called aromatase inhibitors, such as arimidex, letrozole, proviron. We can argue over which is best, but personally I like arimidex. For a 500mg test cycle as a newbie, 0.5mg of arimidex every day during the cycle should suffice. I would also strongly consider a low dose of hcg throughout the cycle, here at around 300IU every 5 days subQ. Acting as an LH (leutinizing hormone) analog, hcg will help prevent death of the test-producing (Leydig) cells in your testicles.
Post cycle, nolvadex is a good choice for PCT (post-cycle therapy).
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I think nolva is a poor choice for anti-estrogen during a cycle. Nolva is an estrogen receptor blocker (like clomid). You'll still produce the estrogen but it will not bind to it's receptor.
yes, :)
better to use arimidex...
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Thanks guys. Good stuff. I think maybe I'll run just the Test @ 500mg wk, and maybe get some arimidex. Keep the nolva for PCT.......
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I agree with what freak says for the most part. Im almost thinking for this guy since 500mg is a pretty low dose maybe use no estrogen control on this cycle. I can say for sure that gains are best with E present. Most anti-E's suppress IGF-1 to some degree. I would have nolva on hand if too strong of E sides occur. Also you can use it for PCT.
So all you need for this first cycle is a few bottles of test and a bottle of nolva, you could even get the liquid nolva and really keep the costs down.
Agree on a bigger cycle as you get more experianced an AI is a great idea.
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500 mg test e per week will be good,
also i would recommend nolva pills, uk zeneca make the best nolva...