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I am reading the old testament and am not sure about some things. I will be asking my questions here. Fee free to answer. ;D
Are Pharisees Muslims?
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phar·i·see (făr'ĭ-sē) pronunciation
n.
1. Pharisee A member of an ancient Jewish sect that emphasized strict interpretation and observance of the Mosaic law in both its oral and written form.
2. A hypocritically self-righteous person.
[Middle English pharise, from Old English fariseus and from Old French pharise, both from Late Latin pharīsaeus, from Greek pharīsaios, from Aramaic pərišayyā, pl. of pəriš, separate, from pəraš, to separate.]
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phar·i·see (f?r'?-s?) pronunciation
n.
1. Pharisee A member of an ancient Jewish sect that emphasized strict interpretation and observance of the Mosaic law in both its oral and written form.
2. A hypocritically self-righteous person.
[Middle English pharise, from Old English fariseus and from Old French pharise, both from Late Latin phar?saeus, from Greek phar?saios, from Aramaic p?rišayy?, pl. of p?riš, separate, from p?raš, to separate.]
Thanks.
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What are the evil muslims called in the bible? Egyptians?
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What are the evil muslims called in the bible? Egyptians?
russians, actually.
you know that mohammed was born several hundreds of years after christ?
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russians, actually.
you know that mohammed was born several hundreds of years after christ?
Who cares answer my question!! I already had an experience of a life time about muslims and would like not to know more. Thank you very much!
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russians, actually.
you know that mohammed was born several hundreds of years after christ?
~1400 years. You may be confusing that with the timeline of new testament writers ;D
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~1400 years. You may be confusing that with the timeline of new testament writers ;D
mohammed was born approximately 568 years after christ. what are you referring to?
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mohammed was born approximately 568 years after christ. what are you referring to?
Sh*t, my bad. Yes, you are right.
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I am reading the old testament and am not sure about some things. I will be asking my questions here. Fee free to answer. ;D
Are Pharisees Muslims?
What kind of moron thinks Muslims existed in the days of the Bible?
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What are the evil muslims called in the bible? Egyptians?
Alexxx,
Muslims are not in the Bible. Islam started many years after the last book of the Bible was written.
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Alexxx,
Muslims are not in the Bible. Islam started many years after the last book of the Bible was written.
The Book Of Ezekiel predicts a Russian/Muslim coalition that would try to wage war with Israel in the end times and would fail miserably.
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The Book Of Ezekiel predicts a Russian/Muslim coalition that would try to wage war with Israel in the end times and would fail miserably.
Well, yeah, If you put it that way. There is prophecy in the Bible about every empire, religion and important events past, present and future until the end.
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Alexxx,
Muslims are not in the Bible. Islam started many years after the last book of the Bible was written.
My bad I guess they where just egymptians back then..
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My bad I guess they where just egymptians back then..
The entire bible was set in the middle east. Most of the modern middle east are muslims. So just about every land mentioned in the bible are the ancestors of todays Muslims.
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The entire bible was set in the middle east. Most of the modern middle east are muslims. So just about every land mentioned in the bible are the ancestors of todays Muslims.
Muslims came from dirt?
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Muslims came from dirt?
Actually, we ALL came from dirt :)
Gen 2:7: "The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."
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Actually, we ALL came from dirt :)
Gen 2:7: "The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."
Yes I know enlightened one but what about muslims?
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Yes I know enlightened one but what about muslims?
Yes, everyone grasshopper
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The Book Of Ezekiel predicts a Russian/Muslim coalition that would try to wage war with Israel in the end times and would fail miserably.
Can you list the exact passages that predict this?
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Can you list the exact passages that predict this?
Purge could be talking about Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39.
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Purge could be talking about Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39.
Yes, God revives Israel spiritually with divine intervention in which He slaughters four-fifths of Israel's aggressors with friendly fire and stoning.
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Purge could be talking about Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39.
and how exactly does one read these chapters? who decided Gog and Magog refer to Russia?
IIRC, the chapter also mentions Ethiopia (literally, unlike the speculation surrounding what Gog and Magog are). . . come on now . . . those poor Ethiopians couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. so let's just say that Gog and Magog are USSR/now Russia to give this prophecy some timeliness.
also, if we're going to read it on a literal level . . . the prophecies very specifically mention that the armies will be equipped with equipment that went out of fashion long ago in most parts of the world. shields, spears, swords . . . .
if you read it on a figurative level, then you really shouldn't expect it to predict literal events. who decides where the figurative language begins and where it ends?
Pat robertson and hal lindsey (yes, i read his book as a child) deserve swift kicks in the hindquarters.
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Actually, we ALL came from dirt :)
Gen 2:7: "The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."
Homo Sapiens evolved from earlier Hominid species about 500,000 years ago.
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Homo Sapiens evolved from earlier Hominid species about 500,000 years ago.
No they didn't.
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No they didn't.
Then why do Humans and other primates share common endogenous retroviruses and redundant pseudo-genes suggesting a diversification about 4 million years ago?
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Then why do Humans and other primates share common endogenous retroviruses and redundant pseudo-genes suggesting a diversification about 4 million years ago?
Well, I don't know what "retroviruses and redundant pseudo-genes " are, so I can't say. I'm not a scientist, so you have to dumb down your rhetoric a little. :) You sound like The Professor from Gilligan’s Island. :) We have things in common with pigs and rats. Doesn't prove an evolution of species.
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Well, I don't know what "retroviruses and redundant pseudo-genes " are, so I can't say. I'm not a scientist, so you have to dumb down your rhetoric a little. :) You sound like The Professor from Gilligan’s Island. :) We have things in common with pigs and rats. Doesn't prove an evolution of species.
If you don't know the basics of common decent or molecular genetics then you have no grounds to make claims that Humans didn't evolve from earlier hominids. You're just wasting my time.
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If you don't know the basics of common decent or molecular genetics then you have no grounds to make claims that Humans didn't evolve from earlier hominids. You're just wasting my time.
LOL! Boy I've never heard THAT before, Sybil. You engaged ME. If I'm wasting your time then don't ask me questions.
And you don't have to know "molecular genetics" to comment on evolution. That's absurd.
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And you don't have to know "molecular genetics" to comment on evolution. That's absurd.
And you don't have to know anything about physics to comment on rocket science either... ::)
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Then why do Humans and other primates share common endogenous retroviruses and redundant pseudo-genes suggesting a diversification about 4 million years ago?
Maybe because they were all made by the same God :)
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And you don't have to know anything about physics to comment on rocket science either... ::)
Whatever you say Sybil.
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Maybe because they were all made by the same God :)
Ding! We have a winner. ;D
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Maybe because they were all made by the same God :)
So "being made by the same God" explains endogenous retroviral sequences and Redundant Psuedo genes?
Ok...How?
First explain what endogenous retroviral sequences and Redundant Psuedo genes are.
Then explain how "Being made by the same God" explains their existance.
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So "being made by the same God" explains endogenous retroviral sequences and Redundant Psuedo genes?
Ok...How?
First explain what endogenous retroviral sequences and Redundant Psuedo genes are.
Then explain how "Being made by the same God" explains their existance.
Endogenous retroviral sequences (ERVs) are integral parts of most eukaryotic genomes (according to some site I googled).
But "Tyrone," you really, really remind me of Johnny in that you don't keep your focus on the issue at hand, it seems that you'd rather attempt to "display" some perceived (at least by you) superior knowledge of things scientific.
Let's look at your initial post that I responded to:
Then why do Humans and other primates share common endogenous retroviruses and redundant pseudo-genes suggesting a diversification about 4 million years ago?
"...why do [they] SHARE common ervs.....?"
And my answer addresses that question.
So "being made by the same God" explains endogenous retroviral sequences and Redundant Psuedo genes?
Ok...How?
First explain what endogenous retroviral sequences and Redundant Psuedo genes are.
Then explain how "Being made by the same God" explains their existance.
Now, as you can see, you are not repeating your question that I answered before, but asking a fully different question. So your incorrectly concluded statements do not apply to my reponse.
I'm still quite interested in the website of what we discussed in PM. If you are uncomfortable posting it on the board, please PM it to me and I will keep it confidential.
Thanks :)
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Endogenous retroviral sequences (ERVs) are integral parts of most eukaryotic genomes (according to some site I googled).
So in other words you don't know? If you have to copy and paste something from google.
But "Tyrone," you really, really remind me of Johnny in that you don't keep your focus on the issue at hand, it seems that you'd rather attempt to "display" some perceived (at least by you) superior knowledge of things scientific.
I don't know who that is.
Let's look at your initial post that I responded to:
"...why do [they] SHARE common ervs.....?"
And my answer addresses that question.
No it doesn't. How does them having a "common creator" cause them to share ERV's.
ERV's occur from past viral infections. They have nothing to do with creators.
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LOL, u THINK that is Johnny?
hahahahahahahaha
come on now ;D
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Well, I don't know what "retroviruses and redundant pseudo-genes " are, so I can't say. I'm not a scientist, so you have to dumb down your rhetoric a little. :) You sound like The Professor from Gilligan’s Island. :) We have things in common with pigs and rats. Doesn't prove an evolution of species.
Picture a chimp and a human as a lock.
They are so similar, that the same key works.
I can't believe religious types find it inconceivable that we share a distant relative with chimps. Why don't you fuckers just swallow your pride and admit it's most probably the case?
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For ERV's imagine a virus infects someone 5 million years ago. The virus inserts some of it's DNA(or other genetic material) into the hosts DNA. The host passes that DNA onto it's children.
Today we still see those DNA strands from past retroviruses.
We see the exact same retroviral sequences in Humans as we see in many other species including Chimps. Scientists can tell the difference between Virus genetic material and Human genetic material. So it's blatantly obvious.
See how "Common creator" wouldn't explain it?
The only explanation is that the 2 seperate species who share the same ERV's had a common ancestor who had that ERV. There's no other explanation. This is absolute proof for common decent and evolution.
Let's sum it up.
- Virus infects host
- Virus inserts some of its DNA into the DNA of the host
- Host has offspring
- Host passes those DNA sequences onto it's offspring
- Fast foward to modern times
- All ancestors of that single host still have those DNA strands from the viral infection
- Humans and Chimps and many other species including other mammals all have the same Retroviral sequences
- This proves they had a common ancestor that had those sequences
- This proves humans and chimps and other species had common ancestors
- This proves common decent
- This proves evolution
So simple even a baby could understand it.
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Hello you guys.... I think Alexxx is asking about who the Arabs are in the bible maybe? Not Muslims. Instead of correcting him on Muslims not being in the bible, you might want to see if this the source of confusion.