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Title: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 07:06:27 AM
I'm going to cut right to it. Here's EXACTLY, word for word, what it takes for anyone to turn pro:

1. Genetics
2. Busting your ass in the gym
3. Knowing how to eat alot of good food
4. Knowing what it means to "rest"
5. 12-15 YEARS of being consistant, and never missing a scheduled workout (*note: you are allowed to miss 2-3 workouts in that 12-15 years for funerals, family tragedy, etc.)

NOW.. here's how 1-5 plays out: Your GENETICS, you are born with, and can do nothing about. Numbers 2,3,4, I could teach a retarded monkey with a brain amputation.

And #5.. is why 99.99999% of the people fail.. and fall dead on their ass.

Notice is doesn't say "gear" or "steroids" in there at all. If you are one of those people that walks around saying "he's just big because he's on tons of shit!", then you will NEVER make it. NEVER!!

Steroids, GH, gear.. is the ultimate weak minded pussies excuse. Because, if it's GEAR, they never have to admit they aren't good enough. These people come up with an abstract excuse that no one can exacty pin point (how much, exactly is "tons of shit"?), and that way they don't have to admit they just ain't got it.

Notice the only thing you never hear someone say is: "I'm just not good enough?"




Oh brother..
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: tom joad on July 25, 2006, 07:10:25 AM
i'm glad that i'm allowed to miss a couple of workouts in 12-15 years for family emergencies. 
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Post by: littleguns on July 25, 2006, 07:15:25 AM
So obviously you are of the mentality of "Juice is just icing on the cake?"
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 07:16:58 AM
No these are Tom Prince words.
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Post by: Bast000 on July 25, 2006, 07:17:39 AM
"Busting your ass in the gym"   ::)
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Post by: anvil on July 25, 2006, 07:19:15 AM
No these are Tom Prince words.

I love it  ;D
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Post by: Bast000 on July 25, 2006, 07:22:02 AM
How come everybody says that Cormier, Dillet, Wheeler, Taylor etc.  don't train hard but "busting your ass in the gym" is #2 on his list?
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: divcom on July 25, 2006, 07:27:28 AM
Genetics?

Man...this is about regimes and guidance.  Then...you need financial help to play the amateur game on the road to the pros which includes food, sleep, worry free lifestyle and so forth.  John Brown can guide any jack on this board to the Nationals if he is willing to take the chemicals. You can add Chad to the list but there may be BIG price at the end of the road with him.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: tom joad on July 25, 2006, 07:35:30 AM
I'm going to cut right to it. Here's EXACTLY, word for word, what it takes for anyone to turn pro:

4. Knowing what it means to "rest"

shiit, i don't know what it means to rest!!!  that must be the reason why i haven't turned pro.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 07:40:50 AM
shiit, i don't know what it means to rest!!!  that must be the reason why i haven't turned pro.

Haha.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 25, 2006, 07:48:04 AM
I'm about to turn Pro...as soon as my GEARS arrive in the mail
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 07:49:02 AM
I'm about to turn Pro...as soon as my GEARS arrive in the mail

Gear is not what makes you a pro ;D
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bigbalddaddy on July 25, 2006, 08:39:41 AM
Well I am sick and f*cking tired of bullshit threads like this saying it's all about this and that!!! 

It's plain and simple boyz and girlz...Being a pro is all about genetics true but you have to explain...it's all about how your genetics respond to the gear.  I can say this based off of true life experiences and after busting my ass for 10-12 years straight, not missing meals, rarely drinking/partying, getting tons of sleep, training with pros, using thousands of dollars in supplements, measuring every meal BLAH f*cking BLAH and never getting over 215lbs @ 8-9% BF (6' 1" tall).  Now add 500mg/wk of t*st for 16 weeks and bam 255lbs, 2.5" on arms, benching well over 400 with ease and I can go on forever how much I responded.  Now flip the coin to my partner who trains balls to the wall just like me, did the exact same meal schedule, same age, bone structure, starting weight, same blah blah blah and he went up to 230ish.   

So this bullshit about gear being 2% or 5% is simple a person speaking on a topic they no nothing about and have never been down that road.  No offense to brothers out there but take a black guy who is naturally really lean and put him on 500mg week of test and some dbol and he'll blow up bigger than any white guy out there using the same amount of stuff and the bro' won't even hold an ounce of water!  I know because I see it every day!  Unless you have been there you just don't know.  If you have weak ass genetics and you don't respond to gear well then you just don't know.  Any pro will agree with me that they are the ones who respond best to the sauce.  Look at Lee P's amounts!  Come on guys, be honest, how many people use way more than him and don't look like that?  Do you think he trains that much harder than anyone else? 

I agree it's all about genetics but more how your genetics and receptors utilize the gear and anyone who argues that simple has not been down that road to know...

So for all you wanna be pros out there doing tons of juice listen up...If after a year or two you are not making huge gains consistently and you are doing the yo yo up and down on and off, you might as well quit wasting your time and your health.  Yes you can be a King tamali but being a Shawn Ray or a Flex Wheeler or Ronnie Coleman takes excellent genetics that love gear.  Just look at Levrone and how he would go off gear and training for months after a show just to do another show in a few month after a long layoff.

Once you have the "genetics" then all of the other stuff is really a far 2nd place!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on July 25, 2006, 08:44:41 AM
Pros used to Bust their ass.  Arnold,Sergio and the rest. 

Now with today`s drugs, busting your ass isn`t neccessary at all.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: corinth on July 25, 2006, 08:50:30 AM
12-15 years of working out? Didn't Phil Heath just pick up a weight for the first time about 15 minutes ago?
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kyomu on July 25, 2006, 08:50:53 AM
What make you a pro are...
1.Genetic
2.Genetic
3.Genetic
4.Genetic
5.Genetic
6.Positive mind
7.Gears

 
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 08:59:41 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kegdrainer on July 25, 2006, 09:09:20 AM
No these are Tom Prince words.

He had some other words too....like 'I dont feel so good'
"Ow, my kidneys"
"is pee supposed to be red?"
and most recently
"do you have this shirt in a medium?"
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bigbalddaddy on July 25, 2006, 09:19:00 AM
He had some other words too....like 'I dont feel so good'
"Ow, my kidneys"
"is pee supposed to be red?"
and most recently
"do you have this shirt in a medium?"


ahahahahhah!!!!  LOL!!! and "...stay away from motrin..."  LOL!!!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: divcom on July 25, 2006, 09:20:53 AM
What make you a pro are...
1.Genetic
2.Genetic
3.Genetic
4.Genetic
5.Genetic
6.Positive mind
7.Gears

 


Genetics?

Lee Priest doesnt have the best genetics.  Shawn doesnt have the best genetics...based on a comparsion with the average man of 5'10" 200 or whatever the number is at the moment. But in the bbing subculture they have superman genetics. &guy had a superior build for a woman vs Everson.  

1. Regimes and Guidance aka the John Browns, Chads and other drug superstars of the bbing world.
2. Food.
3. Heavy weight with variation
4. Rest
5. Someone you can live off of during your amateut yrs unless you are the Beast as GH15 calls him.

Chad/J Brown + True Adonis vs Gear Rat in the gym + a guru with no clue of drug regimes = True Adonis, a top National level going after a procard vs Gym Rat in somebodies hospital after yrs of abuse with no real gains or anything to show for his aliments.


To this day I couldnt believe how Cory Everson sang songs of her great genetics when she stood next to a woman, Anja Langer, that made her look like a boy in their natural forms. 

(http://www.anjalanger.com/Photos/BobKennedy/LasVegas/LasVegas-large/LV1006.jpg)
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alexxx on July 25, 2006, 09:24:50 AM
Only a handfew of pros train their asses off.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Petrucci on July 25, 2006, 09:37:32 AM

Genetics?

Lee Priest doesnt have the best genetics...

Lee Priest doesnt have the best genetics??? well, the only problems for him are just his height and his pecs...
Did you ever saw pics of him at like 16, 18 years old??? he was already a freaky kid...
Great calves (shape and size), legs, abs...A good back and lets not forget probably the best arms in the history of competitive bodybuilding (from shoulders to wrist)...
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 09:41:01 AM
True he has great genetics.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Spike on July 25, 2006, 09:42:40 AM

3. Knowing how to eat alot of good food

does that mean tastes good??

if not Big Ron here doesnt look like he's been eating chicken and sweet potatoes

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=85728.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=85728.0)
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 09:46:24 AM
(http://www.maxmusclevenice.com/Tom%20Prince.jpg)
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 25, 2006, 09:50:54 AM
Gear is not what makes you a pro ;D



Gears work for Tom Prince...lol ;D
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 25, 2006, 10:17:09 AM
Holy crap, Prince looks all of about 150 in that last pic!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: tom joad on July 25, 2006, 10:40:51 AM
I'm going to cut right to it. Here's EXACTLY, word for word, what it takes for anyone to turn pro:

1. Genetics
2. Busting your ass in the gym
3. Knowing how to eat alot of good food
4. Knowing what it means to "rest"
5. 12-15 YEARS of being consistant, and never missing a scheduled workout (*note: you are allowed to miss 2-3 workouts in that 12-15 years for funerals, family tragedy, etc.)

NOW.. here's how 1-5 plays out: Your GENETICS, you are born with, and can do nothing about. Numbers 2,3,4, I could teach a retarded monkey with a brain amputation.

And #5.. is why 99.99999% of the people fail.. and fall dead on their ass.

Notice is doesn't say "gear" or "steroids" in there at all. If you are one of those people that walks around saying "he's just big because he's on tons of shit!", then you will NEVER make it. NEVER!!

Steroids, GH, gear.. is the ultimate weak minded pussies excuse. Because, if it's GEAR, they never have to admit they aren't good enough. These people come up with an abstract excuse that no one can exacty pin point (how much, exactly is "tons of shit"?), and that way they don't have to admit they just ain't got it.

Notice the only thing you never hear someone say is: "I'm just not good enough?"


Did Prince write this before or after he almost died for you bitches?!!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: IceCold on July 25, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
well before he "almost died for us".


regardless of how much a part drugs play - how the body responds to drugs- no pro will ever admit that.  of course, they are ALL going to say genetics, hard work, etc.  but in reality, i think how your body reacts with the drugs is the most important and some hard work and dedication (nothing special but being consistent most of the time) good structure, and some luck will result in a pro card.

perfect example is phil heath.  excellent genetics for drugs, good structure, and worked hard for a few years and look at him now.  it really is how your body responds to drugs and then the rest is up to you to determine how far you'll go.  drugs alone wont do it, but neither will hard work.
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Post by: anvil on July 25, 2006, 11:14:54 AM
Well said.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: younggunz on July 25, 2006, 11:45:53 AM
Why is it hard for people to admit they have shitty genetics? These are the guys that bitch constantly about how the only reason pro's are pro's is because of their doses, we'll i have news its how your body responds to GEAR!! and your genetic bone structure and build. SIMPLE
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: RJB on July 25, 2006, 11:52:56 AM
What makes you turn pro is the inability to play football even though you're huge. Gumps.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: IceCold on July 25, 2006, 12:14:43 PM
What makes you turn pro is the inability to play football even though you're huge. Gumps.


football players wish they were as strong and as muscular as bbers. 

Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HERACLES on July 25, 2006, 12:18:24 PM
What make you a pro are...
1.Genetic
2.Genetic
3.Genetic
4.Genetic
5.Genetic
6.Positive mind
7.Gears

 

I CONCUR! Absolutely it..

But ALSO, drive, and consistency.  If you dont want it, you wont be.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: RJB on July 25, 2006, 12:20:11 PM

football players wish they were as strong and as muscular as bbers. 



Yes, Warren Sapp is really pissed that he can't compete in this year's Olympia. All he can do is sit on his personal island sulking.
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Post by: dirk digler on July 25, 2006, 12:27:21 PM

football players wish they were as strong and as muscular as bbers. 


Yeah, those bodybuilders are taking all the wsm titles and Olympic weightlifting medals. It just ain't fair.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Spike on July 25, 2006, 12:27:55 PM
2005 Top 25 NFL Player Salaries

Rank     Player   Salary     Team
1     Vick, Michael    $ 23,102,750       Atlanta Falcons
2     Hasselbeck, Matt    $ 19,005,280       Seattle Seahawks
3     Pace, Orlando    $ 18,000,000       St. Louis Rams
4     Jones, Walter    $ 17,701,320       Seattle Seahawks
5     Brady, Tom    $ 15,654,180       New England Patriots
6     Bailey, Champ    $ 13,507,625       Denver Broncos
7     Smoot, Fred    $ 12,300,000       Minnesota Vikings
8     Rolle, Samari    $ 12,000,990       Baltimore Ravens
9     Henry, Anthony    $ 11,604,840       Dallas Cowboys
10     Ogden, Jonathan    $ 10,665,550       Baltimore Ravens
11     Stroud, Marcus    $ 10,640,000       Jacksonville Jaguars
12     Woodson, Charles    $ 10,537,000       Oakland Raiders
13     Baxter, Gary    $ 10,510,698       Cleveland Browns
14     Bulluck, Keith    $ 10,251,980       Tennessee Titans
15     Johnson, Rudi    $ 10,250,000       Cincinnati Bengals
16     Samuels, Chris    $ 9,550,000       Washington Redskins
17     Favre, Brett    $ 9,500,000       Green Bay Packers
18     Roethlisberger, Ben    $ 9,498,840       Pittsburgh Steelers
19     Lucas, Ken    $ 9,400,000       Carolina Panthers
20     Muhammad, Muhsin    $ 9,335,407       Chicago Bears
21     Manning, Eli    $ 9,305,000       New York Giants
22     Rivera, Marco    $ 9,130,280       Dallas Cowboys
23     Ferguson, Jason    $ 9,129,290       Dallas Cowboys
24     Wahle, Mike    $ 9,100,000       Carolina Panthers
25     James, Edgerrin    $ 9,081,000       Indianapolis Colts
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: RJB on July 25, 2006, 12:31:04 PM
2005 Top 25 NFL Player Salaries

Rank     Player   Salary     Team
1     Vick, Michael    $ 23,102,750       Atlanta Falcons
2     Hasselbeck, Matt    $ 19,005,280       Seattle Seahawks
3     Pace, Orlando    $ 18,000,000       St. Louis Rams
4     Jones, Walter    $ 17,701,320       Seattle Seahawks
5     Brady, Tom    $ 15,654,180       New England Patriots
6     Bailey, Champ    $ 13,507,625       Denver Broncos
7     Smoot, Fred    $ 12,300,000       Minnesota Vikings
8     Rolle, Samari    $ 12,000,990       Baltimore Ravens
9     Henry, Anthony    $ 11,604,840       Dallas Cowboys
10     Ogden, Jonathan    $ 10,665,550       Baltimore Ravens
11     Stroud, Marcus    $ 10,640,000       Jacksonville Jaguars
12     Woodson, Charles    $ 10,537,000       Oakland Raiders
13     Baxter, Gary    $ 10,510,698       Cleveland Browns
14     Bulluck, Keith    $ 10,251,980       Tennessee Titans
15     Johnson, Rudi    $ 10,250,000       Cincinnati Bengals
16     Samuels, Chris    $ 9,550,000       Washington Redskins
17     Favre, Brett    $ 9,500,000       Green Bay Packers
18     Roethlisberger, Ben    $ 9,498,840       Pittsburgh Steelers
19     Lucas, Ken    $ 9,400,000       Carolina Panthers
20     Muhammad, Muhsin    $ 9,335,407       Chicago Bears
21     Manning, Eli    $ 9,305,000       New York Giants
22     Rivera, Marco    $ 9,130,280       Dallas Cowboys
23     Ferguson, Jason    $ 9,129,290       Dallas Cowboys
24     Wahle, Mike    $ 9,100,000       Carolina Panthers
25     James, Edgerrin    $ 9,081,000       Indianapolis Colts


Exactly. And I think Jay Cutler made $49.95 from selling a DVD last year and an extra six bucks from those Muscletech ads.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 25, 2006, 01:03:45 PM
Pros used to Bust their ass.  Arnold,Sergio and the rest. 

Now with today`s drugs, busting your ass isn`t neccessary at all.

You hit it right on the head........and that's another reason why bodybuilding is a lost art, too much drugs and not enough training.........that will change this upcoming year for at least two people I know 8)!!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on July 25, 2006, 01:06:43 PM
Total bullshit.

Tom Prince is an idiot.
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Post by: The True Adonis on July 25, 2006, 01:11:37 PM
You hit it right on the head........and that's another reason why bodybuilding is a lost art, too much drugs and not enough training.........that will change this upcoming year for at least two people I know 8)!!

cAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 25, 2006, 02:06:41 PM
cAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?

Elaborate on what?
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Croatch on July 25, 2006, 02:17:51 PM
3 things that will help you turn pro:
1. Eat your vitamins
2. Don't forget your spinach
3. Always start your day with Wheaties

Good luck!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Woten on July 25, 2006, 02:22:36 PM
3 things that will help you turn pro:
1. Eat your vitamins
2. Don't forget your spinach
3. Always start your day with Wheaties

Good luck!

Croatch, will you be releasing another short film - in the same style as the one feat the track by Explosions In The Sky?

I did like that one, nice production

Are you the Cooksey bloke?
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: candidate2025 on July 25, 2006, 02:26:36 PM
How come everybody says that Cormier, Dillet, Wheeler, Taylor etc.  don't train hard but "busting your ass in the gym" is #2 on his list?
i dont know about the rest of them, but i can guarantee you wheeler was/ and would still be/ one of the hardest working pros.   he fuckin killed himself in the gym....and as for the others i see no way that they could compete at the pro level without training at least pretty hard...gear only does sso much.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dirk digler on July 25, 2006, 02:28:21 PM
cAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?
Bodybuilding is only about inducing hypertrophy and keeping bodyfat to a minimum. Both are easily done with modern drugs. Why do you think these drugs were invented? For bodybuilders?? Nope, they were made for people with wasting illnessses. The word "train" refers to teach. For example, a o-lifter "trains his body to be more and more efficient at putting weight overhead. The more efficient, the more he can put up. Bodybuilders are only soliciting a response which is primarily controlled by hormone levels.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bigbalddaddy on July 25, 2006, 02:33:20 PM
Why is it hard for people to admit they have shitty genetics? These are the guys that bitch constantly about how the only reason pro's are pro's is because of their doses, we'll i have news its how your body responds to GEAR!! and your genetic bone structure and build. SIMPLE

Well said!  I ramble on a bit sometimes but you summed it up perfect!!!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on July 25, 2006, 04:35:33 PM
i am willing to take one/two of you guys and put him/them on a plan and schedule for 1 single year. after this year he will be doing npc nationals that  means winning state competition and competing regularly in nationals (depending on his country) for an IFBB pro card.

you can apply through pms. but! you have to get your human grade pharma brand name hormones from someone else! that is the condition. you also need to have the time, money and will to train. your genetics can be average to average minus,, it wont matter a slong as you been training for 3-4 years and got some basics dialed in. and you cant be scared from needles and comply with diet/supp instructions.

private messege me and ill chose 1 or 2 guys out of you
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Stavios on July 25, 2006, 04:54:00 PM
I'll suggest that you train Alexxx and True Adonis !

that way it will be a great experiment to see if they really train harder than every body.
when they will juice they will be Ronnie's size  ;D
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2006, 08:35:42 PM
Mars isn't that the 3rd or 4th time you post that ?

No.
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Croatch on July 26, 2006, 12:13:27 AM
Quote
Croatch, will you be releasing another short film - in the same style as the one feat the track by Explosions In The Sky?
No.  I'd be afraid that I'd get flooded with PM's asking me about a Croatch documentary.  The press is a bitch!  You go to Gold's?
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gordiano on July 26, 2006, 12:30:58 AM
No these are Tom Prince words.

That from the fucker who shrunk to a buck-seventy, overnight, once off the gear.......... ::)
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gordiano on July 26, 2006, 12:32:29 AM
He had some other words too....like 'I dont feel so good'
"Ow, my kidneys"
"is pee supposed to be red?"
and most recently
"do you have this shirt in a medium?"

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gordiano on July 26, 2006, 01:10:12 AM
3 things that will help you turn pro:
1. Eat your vitamins
2. Don't forget your spinach
3. Always start your day with Wheaties

Good luck!

I prefer Weasels, but that's just me.............
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 26, 2006, 09:51:25 AM
I prefer Weasels, but that's just me.............




who kept posting this homo on that fake ass wheaties box
Title: Re: How to turn pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: nycbull on July 27, 2006, 08:17:49 AM
Well I am sick and f*cking tired of bullshit threads like this saying it's all about this and that!!! 

It's plain and simple boyz and girlz...Being a pro is all about genetics true but you have to explain...it's all about how your genetics respond to the gear.  I can say this based off of true life experiences and after busting my ass for 10-12 years straight, not missing meals, rarely drinking/partying, getting tons of sleep, training with pros, using thousands of dollars in supplements, measuring every meal BLAH f*cking BLAH and never getting over 215lbs @ 8-9% BF (6' 1" tall).  Now add 500mg/wk of t*st for 16 weeks and bam 255lbs, 2.5" on arms, benching well over 400 with ease and I can go on forever how much I responded.  Now flip the coin to my partner who trains balls to the wall just like me, did the exact same meal schedule, same age, bone structure, starting weight, same blah blah blah and he went up to 230ish.   

So this bullshit about gear being 2% or 5% is simple a person speaking on a topic they no nothing about and have never been down that road.  No offense to brothers out there but take a black guy who is naturally really lean and put him on 500mg week of test and some dbol and he'll blow up bigger than any white guy out there using the same amount of stuff and the bro' won't even hold an ounce of water!  I know because I see it every day!  Unless you have been there you just don't know.  If you have weak ass genetics and you don't respond to gear well then you just don't know.  Any pro will agree with me that they are the ones who respond best to the sauce.  Look at Lee P's amounts!  Come on guys, be honest, how many people use way more than him and don't look like that?  Do you think he trains that much harder than anyone else? 

I agree it's all about genetics but more how your genetics and receptors utilize the gear and anyone who argues that simple has not been down that road to know...

So for all you wanna be pros out there doing tons of juice listen up...If after a year or two you are not making huge gains consistently and you are doing the yo yo up and down on and off, you might as well quit wasting your time and your health.  Yes you can be a King tamali but being a Shawn Ray or a Flex Wheeler or Ronnie Coleman takes excellent genetics that love gear.  Just look at Levrone and how he would go off gear and training for months after a show just to do another show in a few month after a long layoff.

Once you have the "genetics" then all of the other stuff is really a far 2nd place!

Great post, this should be the final word on this topic. I have had the same exact experience. It is time people with actual experience in this topic to set it straight. No more bull.