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Getbig Female Info Boards => Figure, Bikini and Fitness Info and Discussions => Topic started by: fdlwaide on July 25, 2006, 05:06:01 PM
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I was at Bridgette's house today and saw her invite for the West Palm Beach Pro which lists the prize money for figure as $15,000 and fitness $8,000 with 5 Olympia qualifications for figure and only 3 for fitness. Does anyone know the breakdown? Is figure now getting more prize money than fitness? I am so out of loop! Has this been for a while and I just missed it? And with so many more figure shows on the schedule than fitness, why would they be qualifiying MORE figure girls?
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that sure is low prize money,,,15,000 dollars,,thats it,it cost more to prep for a show
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If it coast more than 15,000 to prep for a figure show than you should take up a different sport. SAside from suits and costume accessories it should cost no more than a weekly food bill and some nutritional supplements for 12 weeks....if the girls uses anything else than add a LITTLE bit more than that but it shouldn't be much. What else do you actually spend money on? I've competed in BB as a man and never spent more than 1000 for extras after food.
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suits!
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I recieved the invite as well, and I read it as - Top 3 in Fitness split $8,000 (usually 1st - $4000, 2nd - $3,000, 3rd - $1000) and Top 5 in Figure split $15,000. The O invites are still just for Top 3 in both fitness & figure - they just have extended the money out to 5th for Figure. Now, it would be nice for fitness too, but I guess there are less of us ;)
Julie
www.JulieLohre.com
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Pro Quality Suits: $1,000 and above each (there are two suits)
MAC make up (or top level stage make up): $200 minimum
Bottles of stage competition tan products: $50 minimum
Tanning sessions leading up to the show: $300 minimum
Airfare: $300 and up
Lodging: $450 and up
Shoes: $50 and up
Haircuts and highlights all year long: $200 and up per trip
Nails: $75 and up per trip
Waxing: $25 and up per trip
Miscellaneous beauty products/processes to protect hair, skin, face all year long: $100 to $200 per month minimum
Travel to and from airport (both at hometown and contest venue city): $200 approximately (depending upon the city)
Grocery bill for the show: $300 and up (much of the food is wasted because you always bring extra)
Grocery bill leading up to the show: $400 per month and up
Cost of being a pro: $200 (or did it rise?)
Supplements (legal): $100 per month or more
Supplements (illegal): Who knows...maybe someone can fill this space in, but I have a feeling it's more than the legal ones.
Jewelry for shows: $100 and up
Clothing and accessories for photo shoots: $500 and up
Emotional duress: Can we really put a price on this?
Being eighty years old and running hands over a wrinkled body and once remembering a time when everything defied gravity and the body was harder than your dentures, even harder than your now brittle and osteoporatic bones: Priceless.
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Julie,
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe on the invite it does actually say that the top 5 in figure qualify for the O.
So do the top three in figure get the same amount or more than the top three in fitness? I know at one time fitness got more prize money...just curious!
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Oh and ps. leg breaker...
It "coasts" me about 6 grand for my last competition.
Just a little "extra" after all my food costs.
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Pro Quality Suits: $1,000 and above each (there are two suits)
MAC make up (or top level stage make up): $200 minimum
Bottles of stage competition tan products: $50 minimum
Tanning sessions leading up to the show: $300 minimum
Airfare: $300 and up
Lodging: $450 and up
Shoes: $50 and up
Haircuts and highlights all year long: $200 and up per trip
Nails: $75 and up per trip
Waxing: $25 and up per trip
Miscellaneous beauty products/processes to protect hair, skin, face all year long: $100 to $200 per month minimum
Travel to and from airport (both at hometown and contest venue city): $200 approximately (depending upon the city)
Grocery bill for the show: $300 and up (much of the food is wasted because you always bring extra)
Grocery bill leading up to the show: $400 per month and up
Cost of being a pro: $200 (or did it rise?)
Supplements (legal): $100 per month or more
Supplements (illegal): Who knows...maybe someone can fill this space in, but I have a feeling it's more than the legal ones.
Jewelry for shows: $100 and up
Clothing and accessories for photo shoots: $500 and up
Emotional duress: Can we really put a price on this?
Being eighty years old and running hands over a wrinkled body and once remembering a time when everything defied gravity and the body was harder than your dentures, even harder than your now brittle and osteoporatic bones: Priceless.
I gotta add that I did say up top that aside from suits and accessories
The suits are 1000 now? That's ridiculous! A few years ago a girl well known and used by the competitors was making them for under 300 or so. Where do you get your tanning products? I'm a 265 contest BB and maybe go through almost 2 bottles...if that of pro tan and it ALWAYS looked perfect. Contest tanning 300 dollars? I tan for a month before the show and pay about 75 bucks for the whole month, unlimited...any more than that and I would have been fried. That was in Boca raton....not a cheap place. Legal nutrition supps where just a normal part of my life anyway and I never used any fat burners or any of the B.S. fancy stuff...and always got in the best condition. Illegal supplements..I don't know, how much did it cost you for your last show?LoL...I'm just kiddin with ya I know your natural. Eating is eating and our lifestyle so I don't add in that...it's actually cheaper than off season. Haircuts and highlites, lol....ya gotta be kidding, what else are ya gonna do not get your hair cut? Everyone does that. Miscellaneous beauty products...same thing, that's ones choice and part of your normal life. Clothing and accessories for shoots....maybe you should try to get the shoots to pay you. I would never, ever do any shoots for free. I've done advertising winning ads for Tk Star and many other mag spots and ads throughout my BB and always got paid to do it.....If your doing the shoots for your own personal use then you shouldn't add in the fee because it is NOT mandatory.
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Oh and ps. leg breaker...
It "coasts" me about 6 grand for my last competition.
Just a little "extra" after all my food costs.
That's much to much...how did you do? What is this a spelling class.
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Here on Cynthia james web site she has listed a suit like a Jen hendershott (sp) wore for 350 and an couple others like ones worn by other pro girls, Adela F and another one for 2 something. TShe does have the 850 and up ones but obviously if ya got the goods(physique) it don't much matter does it?
Suits....expensive
Award winning physique.....only Hard work, ya can't buy it.
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Spoke to John Organ, the promoter of the Palm Beach Pro Figure and Fitness Show...he said top three in Figure and top three in Fitness qualify for the Olympia. Prize breakdown is as follows:
Figure: 1st, $6000
2nd, $4000
3rd, $2500
4th, $1500
5th, $1000
Fitness: 1st, $4000
2nd, $2500
3rd, $1500
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IFBB Palm Beach Pro Open, Oct. 7th, 2006, to all ifbb figure and fitness pro's, ,
floridias first pro figure and fitness competition (figure 5 places $ 15,000) first place getting 6000, and for fitness it is 3 places 8,000 total winning money for them.
olympia qualification for the following year and it is one week after the olympia.
website,, IFBBPalmBeachPro.com
host hotel, marriott, wst palm beach 800-376-2292 $109 per night,,
to view city place and venue,, arriet himmel theater. go to www.cityplace.com contact info john organ email is bambjop@aol.com and his home phone is 561-582-4111
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While the prize money for Fitness is good overall, I still don't get why it is higher in Figure and pays out to top 5.
I am happy for the women overall as this is great prize money and it is a positive progress towards bringing more to the table for the women athletes. However I think it's a bad sign for Fitness if this becomes the trend.
There are a heck of a lot more women in Figure, but it seems as though there is a disparity in the prize money....Why not equal?
It seems that it has always been asked in the past (myself included)..."Why are the women's prizes smaller than the Men's?" Now I ask, "Why are the women at differing levels of prize money at this show? Is figure that much more of a marketable sport/draw for attendance?" If it is, so be it I guess.... :(
Just so you don't think I'm coming across all negative....
I applaud the promoter for including Fitness in the show. ;D There were, as of last year, very few shows to chose from in Fitness. With Chad and Kim's recent addition...and now this one, Fitness athletes have more of a chance to compete. Let's keep the Fitness competitions coming.
Maybe someone can convince Mr. Manion to bring back IFBB Fitness to the Pittsburgh show???
Rick Lohre
www.lohrecreative.com (http://www.lohrecreative.com)
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I was at Bridgette's house today and saw her invite for the West Palm Beach Pro which lists the prize money for figure as $15,000 and fitness $8,000 with 5 Olympia qualifications for figure and only 3 for fitness. Does anyone know the breakdown? Is figure now getting more prize money than fitness? I am so out of loop! Has this been for a while and I just missed it? And with so many more figure shows on the schedule than fitness, why would they be qualifiying MORE figure girls?
Where? When? I am in West Palm and this is the first I heard of it. Can you give us some details please?
Thanks fdlwaide! :)
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It is ONLY a pro show and is held the weekend AFTER the Olympia. There will be no amatuer show attached to it. Adela and Valerie will be there but not competing. I spoke with John, the promoter, a great deal this weekend at USAs. The stage will be smaller then most pro shows as a note to the fitness competitors. He is working on all the details. Any pro who is interested should contact the IFBB office to receive a contract.
I am planning on attending this show, should be a nice addition.
Isaac
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... but it seems as though there is a disparity in the prize money....Why not equal?
Numbers, my man, numbers.
I remember a time not too long ago when (almost) no one wanted to defend women's pro bodybuilding when it came under attack.
And now, the shoe is on a different foot.
Moving on, there's no need for the figure to pay double the fitness payout. If what you guys say about there being no amateur show is true, then the vast majority of the onstage talent will be out-of-towners. That means 2 things:
1) no friends buying tickets
2) no family buying tickets
Since we don't have the bikini division yet (stay tuned!), the main entertainment will be the pro fitness women. A promoter should want to draw the best fitness competitors possible, so he should sweeten the pot as much as possible for them.
That being said, good luck to everyone.
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It is ONLY a pro show and is held the weekend AFTER the Olympia. There will be no amatuer show attached to it. Adela and Valerie will be there but not competing. I spoke with John, the promoter, a great deal this weekend at USAs. The stage will be smaller then most pro shows as a note to the fitness competitors. He is working on all the details. Any pro who is interested should contact the IFBB office to receive a contract.
I am planning on attending this show, should be a nice addition.
Isaac
I asked because I live by West Palm Beach and hadn't seen any flyers or anything regarding it. Where is it to be held?
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Cheri..it's at the Harriet Himmel Theater at CityPlace - Sat., Oct. 7th.
www.ifbbpalmbeachpro.com
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Cheri..it's at the Harriet Himmel Theater at CityPlace - Sat., Oct. 7th.
www.ifbbpalmbeachpro.com
Thanks Mavis. I love City Place! :)
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Here is the current version of the show flyer from the promoter...
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And P.S. the stage is 10x30
Which I guess is actually good news girls cause that means you could probably just practice in your bathroom and that would suffice. Saves you that extra trip to the gym.
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And P.S. the stage is 10x30
Which I guess is actually good news girls cause that means you could probably just practice in your bathroom and that would suffice. Saves you that extra trip to the gym.
*CLASSIC*!!
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While the prize money for Fitness is good overall, I still don't get why it is higher in Figure and pays out to top 5.
I am happy for the women overall as this is great prize money and it is a positive progress towards bringing more to the table for the women athletes. However I think it's a bad sign for Fitness if this becomes the trend.
There are a heck of a lot more women in Figure, but it seems as though there is a disparity in the prize money....Why not equal?
It seems that it has always been asked in the past (myself included)..."Why are the women's prizes smaller than the Men's?" Now I ask, "Why are the women at differing levels of prize money at this show? Is figure that much more of a marketable sport/draw for attendance?" If it is, so be it I guess.... :(
Just so you don't think I'm coming across all negative....
I applaud the promoter for including Fitness in the show. ;D There were, as of last year, very few shows to chose from in Fitness. With Chad and Kim's recent addition...and now this one, Fitness athletes have more of a chance to compete. Let's keep the Fitness competitions coming.
Maybe someone can convince Mr. Manion to bring back IFBB Fitness to the Pittsburgh show???
Rick Lohre
www.lohrecreative.com (http://www.lohrecreative.com)
Don't rock the boat Rick. Next thing you know they'll be low placing Julie. Oh and by the way, they're doing to fitness what they've been doing to FBB's. It ain't nice is it!
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Way to go having more prize money for figure than fitness!!!!!!!!!!
It's not like fitness routines are more entertaining than quarter turns or require greater amounts of training/preparation or anything like that ::)
Like Rick said, it is great to see the promoter having fitness and I do appreciate that so I don't mean to sound all negative....but I would have liked to have seen equal prize money.
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Just joining back up after a brief hiatus from the boards.
I am a little stunned by this change in prize money. Is this going to happen at the Olympia, and Arnold as well? What is the message here? I am beginning to think "Fitness" is involved in the wrong business.
Fitness is much harder division than any of the three. It requires much more talent,training and much more diversity and therefore should be reflected in the prize money.
Im going to venture out and certainly piss some people off . . but here it goes:
as a bodybuilder, not professional of course . . I train for an "event" but not an "athletic" one . . .its more a demonstration of "aesthetics". I dont see myself actually competing as an athlete. Im competing for the best structure, mass and diet ability: on show day, I do not ACtUALLY demonstrate ANY athletic skills used in training. If that were the case, I guess I would be a powerlifter or other.
The IFBB calls all their pros "athletes" but in all honesty, the only athletic skills actually demonstrated during an event are by fitness women. Of the three divisions, fitness is the only one that actually performs the same activities done during training. This by comparison to any other sport under the sun is what I call an "athlete".
Now you take an actual athlete and punish them by demoting them in prize money. Its bad enough that the proper flooring is not provided. Thats like telling the NFL that they need to start playing on concrete because they are too lazy or too stupid to provide flooring. Now the money, what little money is offered, is lowering. Is this only the beginning? Foolish organization. Killing off, one by one, the thing that entertains crowds the most.
Guess what we have to look forward to in the world of Bodybuilding: quarter turns. thousands of them. God, I Cant wait.
Fitness women, chin up. Some day a group may actually respect you and provide athletic compensation and endorsements that represent your training and work offorts. The IFBB is a foolish group with all the divisions. Especially fitness.
HardyHard
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$1000 for suits? Is that for each suit or the total cost for the 2 or 3 that the girls need?
Damn, the only people I see making the $$$ are the suit makers and not the "pro athletes". :-[
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$1000 for suits? Is that for each suit or the total cost for the 2 or 3 that the girls need?
Damn, the only people I see making the $$$ are the suit makers and not the "pro athletes". :-[
That is for each suit and some pros have spent up to 4-5k on their suits.
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That is so wrong :-[
What is wrong with the girls just wearing plain coloured suits without all the glitter and fuss, and dropping out the one piece round too?
I think the girls would find it much easier on their pockets, as well as having no added stress in trying to out do each other with "who has the best decorated costumes". The physique rounds are supposed to be about judging the body and not who has the prettier suit.
It's a shame that they feel the need to spend so much money on suits that they will probably only wear once, and even for the girls that do win or place high - it looks like they need to spend more to look good on stage than what they can win with prize money.
I say bring in plain coloured and a standard cut posing suit for the competitors. I'm sure they would appreciate not having the added expense of costumes added to their already high cost of needs for competing.
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I say bring in plain coloured and a standard cut posing suit for the competitors. I'm sure they would appreciate not having the added expense of costumes added to their already high cost of needs for competing.
Standard cut suits wouldn't work as every physique is different and a cut on one competitor wouldn't work on another.
It's like any other hobby or activity you choose to participate in. People who bike have expensive bikes, people who golf spend money on clubs, people who fish spend money on boats and fishing rods. I'm sure the women would like to spend less, who wouldn't?
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That is so wrong :-[
What is wrong with the girls just wearing plain coloured suits without all the glitter and fuss, and dropping out the one piece round too?
I say bring in plain coloured and a standard cut posing suit for the competitors. I'm sure they would appreciate not having the added expense of costumes added to their already high cost of needs for competing.
;)
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i want to see the thong round personally
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i want to see the thong round personally
Not more than I do, sweetheart. There are a few figure and fitness pros capable of giving a healthy guy like me heart palpitations should they introduce a thong round. ;D
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uhum.....and who might that be????
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Anyone know who plans to compete in this show? I'll be competing.....don't have to fly anywhere for this one!
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Anyone know who plans to compete in this show? I'll be competing.....don't have to fly anywhere for this one!
Very cool. I'll see you there Mavis. :) I live minutes from City Place.
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Anyone know who plans to compete in this show? I'll be competing.....don't have to fly anywhere for this one!
I talked to John last week and he said the show continues to add more and more names. It sounds like a number of women will be competing at this one. When there is a final list I'll post it.
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uhum.....and who might that be????
Michelle, Michelle...As you know I am the newly self-appointed prez of the MAFC ;D , as well as my on-going duties as the SMFC prez, so do I really need to answer this? :P Add Ms. Wallis and Mrs. Brant to a "thong round" and as we say in Jersey, fuggehdaboudit. I'd likely pass out in the aisle. Too bad I can't make it to Vegas, but you know how busy I am.
Hey Michelle, go Gamecocks! We're 2-1, and I'm catchin' the fever every weekend here! :D
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The latest poster for the event...
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Pro Quality Suits: $1,000 and above each (there are two suits)
MAC make up (or top level stage make up): $200 minimum
Bottles of stage competition tan products: $50 minimum
Tanning sessions leading up to the show: $300 minimum
Airfare: $300 and up
Lodging: $450 and up
Shoes: $50 and up
Haircuts and highlights all year long: $200 and up per trip
Nails: $75 and up per trip
Waxing: $25 and up per trip
Miscellaneous beauty products/processes to protect hair, skin, face all year long: $100 to $200 per month minimum
Travel to and from airport (both at hometown and contest venue city): $200 approximately (depending upon the city)
Grocery bill for the show: $300 and up (much of the food is wasted because you always bring extra)
Grocery bill leading up to the show: $400 per month and up
Cost of being a pro: $200 (or did it rise?)
Supplements (legal): $100 per month or more
Supplements (illegal): Who knows...maybe someone can fill this space in, but I have a feeling it's more than the legal ones.
Jewelry for shows: $100 and up
Clothing and accessories for photo shoots: $500 and up
Emotional duress: Can we really put a price on this?
Being eighty years old and running hands over a wrinkled body and once remembering a time when everything defied gravity and the body was harder than your dentures, even harder than your now brittle and osteoporatic bones: Priceless.
jodles, you look great but i think you are spending a bit much on the hair and nails 8)
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she thinks she's a supastar....hair and makeup...gimme a break....half of the stuff on that list EVERY girl does...accesories for shoots??? if a guy/girl competitor is good they would PAY YOU. Nothing against her but this is ridiculous.
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Who is going to compete????
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I might be there have not made my final decision yet?!?!
God bless,
Lorie Kimes
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??? any word on the competitors list yet ?? ;)
considering the trip , just curious who's showing up on stage ! :) ;D ;) :D
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Anyone know the full results of the show or where I can see the results and pics?