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Title: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: vein-x on July 28, 2006, 09:01:09 AM
Honestly, I think he'll be Mr. O VERRRYY soon...

Pictures:
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/DJvsLPandJJ.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/DennisJamesPre-Contest2.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/DennisJamesPre-Contest.jpg)
(This picture is amazing to me. That grainy muscle is rare in these days of young, new faces.)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/aabn0102.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/aabn0091.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/vein-x/aabn0087.jpg)

Videos:
Dennis James @ The 2006 FIBO-
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Give me your honest opinions. As those who know me know, I'm open to all opinions and thoughts, but I've still yet to find a major flaw on him.

If there was one problem he has it's consistency. Sometimes he seems to be holding that film of water and it blurs out his amazing grainy muscle quality. Otherwise.. critique away. Tell me where you see problems, please.

vein-x
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: alexxx on July 28, 2006, 09:03:30 AM
Not in this lifetime.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Bigger Business on July 28, 2006, 09:04:12 AM
he's awesome...was ripped off this year...dont think he'll be Mr O but has a better chance than Jay thats for sure
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: XFACTOR on July 28, 2006, 09:07:15 AM
Not with that stomach.  He will never see a title, no way no how
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: bigmc on July 28, 2006, 09:10:22 AM
He always looks unbeatable running up to a show, just never seems to nail it, his stomach aint any worse than Ronnies
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: vein-x on July 28, 2006, 09:10:43 AM
Not in this lifetime.
WOW! That's an incredibly detailed post filled with pictures and reasons that I just can't deny!

Thanks for taking time out of your JAM PACKED schedule for listing a couple solid reasons why you don't feel The Menace will ever do well at a major competition.

Thanks Again!

vein-x



;)



Not with that stomach.  He will never see a title, no way no how
Also a solid point, considering the fact that the top 2 professionals in the WORLD can do full vaccuum poses for hours on end...

...or were you being serious?
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Jerryme7 on July 28, 2006, 09:11:47 AM
Things are possible :)

I remember when MuscleMag International did a commentary and listed a group of bodybuilder had potential to be Mr Olympia and those that didnt have any potential of ever becoming Mr Olympia.

Shawn Ray, Cutler, Coleman, Nasser, etc....

The writer of the Article said that Coleman doesnt have the genetics to ever be Mr. Olympia but had great work ethics, being a professional bodybuilder and full time cop...the writer said Ronnie would never be Mr. Olympia...

We know Ronnie won Mr Olympia and the rest is history....never boaught MuscleMag International after that. Credibility was ruined..I wish I remembered who that writer was...

Do any of remember this?

I just have a feeling someone bigger and better will emerge that we havent heard of yet will become Mr. Olympia...that is after Ronnie retires or will ever retire...
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: sculpture on July 28, 2006, 09:14:47 AM
In terms of potential, i feel martinez is up there as the best.

However, for bodybuilding, i believe it would be in the best interest for the sport if gunter was promoted to the top position of the sport and not jay.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: jaejonna on July 28, 2006, 09:16:51 AM
His lats are too high.....

all Mr. O's have had a back (except zane) ...Dennis' weakest part is his lats
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: alexxx on July 28, 2006, 09:17:10 AM
Dennis James just has too many weaknessess.. starting with his crappy proportions to his condidtioning to his weak mind. Don't get me wrong he is a monster and looks pretty crazy but all he has for showparts are shoulders and arms. His lats are too high, backdouble bicep reminiscent of gary strydom, quads are shit probably because of his shitty form and even Johnnie Jackson dwarfs him on quads. Chest looks really awkward. Ass to big. Waist of an alien. Gym prowess in on the freacking machines lol! Should I go on for you?
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: phyxsius on July 28, 2006, 09:17:20 AM
Dennis is a very very good bodybuilder but I don't think he is up to the top to win any shows
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: vein-x on July 28, 2006, 09:22:07 AM
Ho he wont be Mr. O; he already is Mr. O !!!!!!!!!!!! in your dreams.

These pics are 1 day out of the New York. As he said in PBW he didn’t want to carb load (which would have been a very good idea) but just before the show he did and I think that screwed him up.

Everyone always says Dennis looks awesome 2 weeks out but at the night of the show; he just looses it.  it is cause insulin manipulation.  What I see is he carb loads with insulin and just sacrifices the condition.  Same what happened to Gustavo in last years ASC.  I think Milos’ boys always loose condition because of that.  

With the legal issues he had he will never be Mr. O. I think he is lucky that they allow him to compete the IFBB. And the distinct midsection will always hold him back.

Honestly one of the best posts I've EVER read on these boards. Great pictures and solid test bro.

I REALLY didn't know he had problems carbing up, and now that you mention it, I remember hearing about his gear-related indictment in Thailand involving the United States DEA.

Very, VERY good points man. But let me ask you this: Since they've allowed other pro's that have had drug issues (some even DURING the contest. eg- Paul Dillets cramps and insulin ON STAGE problems & Jay Cutler's failed diuretics test come to mind right off the bat)  why would there be any problems with allowing James to win? Sure he got in drug trouble, but here's a list of pretty successful BB'ers that have/still having successful careers:
Cutler
Dillet
St. Cloud
Martinez

...and I'm sure there are more.

Keep the solid posts coming though!
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: monstercalves on July 28, 2006, 09:25:25 AM
the menace lacks too many things.......he couldnt possibly be mr O

next question.... ::)
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: shootfighter1 on July 28, 2006, 09:27:36 AM
I don't believe so (winning the O).  He is one of the greats but his midsection has been an issue as he has gained more mass which throws off his shape and taper.

Good post above, lots of guys can get into trouble with the carb up methods.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: michael arvilla on July 28, 2006, 09:29:32 AM
DJ  is awesome!!!

a true freak................... .one of my fav bb's
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: michael arvilla on July 28, 2006, 09:39:05 AM
little stomach distension that's about it............
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: natural al on July 28, 2006, 09:45:42 AM
a little off topic but he has one of the funniest training vids I've ever seen.  The one with the old dude scraming at him the whole time...not yelling mind you, screaming like a mainiac, funny as hell.  Back to Basics is the name, I think.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Danny on July 28, 2006, 09:49:26 AM
little stomach distension that's about it............

And a consistent problem when it comes to nailing the conditioning. His 2 weeks out pics are you usually mind boggling... :o :o If he could manage somehow to bring that on stage I think he'll be top 3 anyday. :o
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 28, 2006, 10:08:39 AM
his quads lack separation, his lats aren't getting any lower, his mid-section is distended, and he peaks too early

the major problem he seems to have is with his quads. they're big and all but lack the deep separation they need to win the title

great physique and always a joy to listen to - never boring
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on July 28, 2006, 10:11:50 AM
Well, there are at least a few folks in Hell that truly believe any minute now, the A/C is gonna flip on and ice water will be served to everyone.

Doesn't make it so.

Dennis James will NEVER be Mr.O.

Period.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: njflex on July 28, 2006, 10:20:32 AM
Shoulder's.pec's trap's tie ins :o
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: eastcoastbbman on July 28, 2006, 10:20:50 AM
DJ  is awesome!!!

a true freak................... .one of my fav bb's

totally agree with you, mike! hes awesome!! what a bodybuilder should look like!
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: timfogarty on July 28, 2006, 10:26:24 AM
Sure he got in drug trouble, but here's a list of pretty successful BB'ers that have/still having successful careers:
Cutler
Dillet
St. Cloud
Martinez

and none of them are Mr O.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Rambone on July 28, 2006, 10:28:27 AM
Honestly, I think he'll be Mr. O VERRRYY soon...

Give me your honest opinions. As those who know me know, I'm open to all opinions and thoughts, but I've still yet to find a major flaw on him.

If there was one problem he has it's consistency. Sometimes he seems to be holding that film of water and it blurs out his amazing grainy muscle quality. Otherwise.. critique away. Tell me where you see problems, please.

vein-x

Are you kidding? He'll never even win the Arnold in this lifetime. When youve been in the game as long as he has and guys like Darrem Charles and rookie Phil Heath beat you, you wont be holding a Sandow anytime soon
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 28, 2006, 10:28:58 AM
I've heard good things about this guy. I'm sure he'll become Mr. Olympia as long as he doesn't make any stupid decisions for some quick money. Yep - bright days ahead . . .

(http://www.geocities.com/lamotte123/00105.jpg)
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: the shadow on July 28, 2006, 10:38:23 AM
bull shit..the guys stomach distention is not like jay cutlers who stomach was really bad at the olympia 2005..dennis james has a real tight and sharp look to his body..he is thick as hell and i think so the guy has no flaws wat so ever..damn his waist looked tight as hell at the 2005 mr O.most of u guys r just asswipes..i have never seen any stomach distention on big dennis...the guy is thick as a rock and i think he is totally flawless..the fact is james is totally overlooked and this is the only reason big james is not in the top 5...i feel bad for james that a guy with a waist tight as his and the amount of muscle he carries on his frame and i think so IFBB is marking of down for some reason..maybe due to his legal issues and i still have alot of expections with this guy and he is definetly an olympia winner..he just needs to wait for the right time and the right moment..his time will come very soon..
TEAM DENNIS JAMES..JAMES IS THE BEST AND THE REST OF YOU R RETARDED
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Dorian 01 on July 28, 2006, 10:54:25 AM
I looked at the first pic and assumed you meant Johnny Jackson! Haha. Dennis James has a good physique, I'm sure if he fully dialed it in he could get 2nd at the Arnold someday.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: RJB on July 28, 2006, 11:53:30 AM
There is something very wrong with his stomach.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: pushinweightwi on July 28, 2006, 12:13:23 PM
Look at Ronnie in that first pic.  He's got the look of a guy that justs want to know when they are going to give him his trophy so he can go home. ;D
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Scimowser on July 28, 2006, 01:26:02 PM
he's awesome...was ripped off this year...dont think he'll be Mr O but has a better chance than Jay thats for sure

sure he does, and when exactly was the last time he came even remotely close to beating Jay???
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Yev33 on July 28, 2006, 01:35:38 PM
He is great when he is in shape, but he would lose to an ON Victor Martinez.
Martinez has more potential than anyone else out there to become the next Mr.O.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: ribonucleic on July 28, 2006, 01:41:36 PM
a little off topic but he has one of the funniest training vids I've ever seen.  The one with the old dude scraming at him the whole time...not yelling mind you, screaming like a mainiac, funny as hell.  Back to Basics is the name, I think.

just youtubed it... lol...

"Eight! Eight! Eight! Eight!..."
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: BUCK 65 on July 28, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
Not likely...

Looks awesome 2-3 weeks out-unbeatable usually-then misses his peak badly....
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 28, 2006, 02:00:05 PM
its like they say, DJ wins the tank top olympia every year. he always looks incredible 2 weeks out then comes in really off. hes the only guy who can match Ruhl on the mm pose.
this pic is great, even his eyes are bloodshot, hahahahah

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/corndog7/ahahahaha.jpg)
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: bigbiceps on July 28, 2006, 02:20:12 PM
What is wrong with his chest? He has something crazy forming the middle of his pecs.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: ribonucleic on July 28, 2006, 02:20:29 PM
That crab shot is the most sickening display of raw beef I've ever seen.

Truly impressive.  :o
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: KTMckay on July 28, 2006, 02:24:06 PM
Definitely not mr o material. not even close. not fresh enough. mr o needs to be someoner that can come in consistantly. seems to me they dont want too many new mr olympias. dennis couldnt bring it consistantly
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: jem123 on July 28, 2006, 02:31:35 PM
dennis has a great build, however he will not win the O due to the fact their are several BB's who are more complete.Ronnie, Jay, Dexter, Gustavo,Victor to name but a few. Maybe even Phil Heath.

Also Dennis tends to overspill and this really hurts his physique. However i do concede that if he could nail conditioning he could be top 3 material.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: brianX on July 28, 2006, 03:09:03 PM
Yeah, he doesn't have any weaknesses ... except super-high lats, no calves, and a bigger gut than Ronnie Coleman.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Slick Vic on July 28, 2006, 03:14:52 PM
ehhhhhhh....  :-\
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Adam Empire on July 28, 2006, 03:15:52 PM
His lats are too high.....


Bingo.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Adam Empire on July 28, 2006, 03:17:49 PM
I've heard good things about this guy. I'm sure he'll become Mr. Olympia as long as he doesn't make any stupid decisions for some quick money. Yep - bright days ahead . . .

(http://www.geocities.com/lamotte123/00105.jpg)

Who is this again?
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: jeffrey. on July 28, 2006, 03:20:39 PM
 8)
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Adam Empire on July 28, 2006, 03:25:59 PM
8)

Another Jumpman clothing guy?
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: davidpaul on July 28, 2006, 03:31:47 PM
I've heard good things about this guy. I'm sure he'll become Mr. Olympia as long as he doesn't make any stupid decisions for some quick money. Yep - bright days ahead . . .

(http://www.geocities.com/lamotte123/00105.jpg)

jake steel?
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Rambone on July 28, 2006, 04:15:28 PM
I looked at the first pic and assumed you meant Johnny Jackson! Haha. Dennis James has a good physique, I'm sure if he fully dialed it in he could get 2nd at the Arnold someday.
Hah, I thought the exact same thing
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: delta9mda on July 28, 2006, 04:21:37 PM
Honestly one of the best posts I've EVER read on these boards. Great pictures and solid test bro.

I REALLY didn't know he had problems carbing up, and now that you mention it, I remember hearing about his gear-related indictment in Thailand involving the United States DEA.

Very, VERY good points man. But let me ask you this: Since they've allowed other pro's that have had drug issues (some even DURING the contest. eg- Paul Dillets cramps and insulin ON STAGE problems & Jay Cutler's failed diuretics test come to mind right off the bat)  why would there be any problems with allowing James to win? Sure he got in drug trouble, but here's a list of pretty successful BB'ers that have/still having successful careers:
Cutler
Dillet
St. Cloud
Martinez

...and I'm sure there are more.

Keep the solid posts coming though!
i think he was busted for ecstacy. some say he was framed as he was sent to his gym something like 18 pills and that is federal. so the boys from the usa came to get him.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: vein-x on July 28, 2006, 05:26:18 PM
Definitely not mr o material. not even close. not fresh enough. mr o needs to be someoner that can come in consistantly. seems to me they dont want too many new mr olympias. dennis couldnt bring it consistantly
Very good point bro, I never even thought of that. From what I've read throughout this thread is he seems to have a problem coming in sharp, but that magic "2 weeks out" photo shoot is ALWAYS sick, I don't think anyone can deny that...



dennis has a great build, however he will not win the O due to the fact their are several BB's who are more complete.Ronnie, Jay, Dexter, Gustavo,Victor to name but a few. Maybe even Phil Heath.

Also Dennis tends to overspill and this really hurts his physique. However i do concede that if he could nail conditioning he could be top 3 material.
Very good point also. Again with the conditioning problem he seems to have and it DOES make it hard to come in at your peak if it was 2 weeks before the show. Also solid point that there are other good candidates out there too, namely a 100% ON V. Martinez.

One more question... do you really think that a pro's record has ANYTHING to do with his placings in a show? By record I don't mean "Is he a winner at other shows or not" I meant drugs or criminal charges. I COULD be wrong but didn't Victor have an issue with some narcotics a while back? Ecstacy or maybe some gear? I know, I know, he hasn't won the Olympia yet but when you sit down and think about it, both 'heirs to the throne' Jay (failed diuretics test) and Victor (selling ecstacy and/or juice[?])  Either way, does a criminal record prevent a competitor from placing high?

Keep it coming guys, this is a pretty solid thread so far..
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 28, 2006, 07:29:22 PM
I've never seen Dennis this shredded

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/dennis_james/preArnold2000/Dennis_James_01.jpg)
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: dzulboy on July 28, 2006, 07:37:02 PM
he'll never be top 3     top 5 is a blessing
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: pobrecito on July 28, 2006, 07:40:30 PM
This is the way I see it.

Coleman wins this year, Cutler wins it in 07...maybe goes 2 more years....but I really think Richard Jones is a future mr. olympia....SUPERB genetics....reminds me a lot of a young ronnie coleman...very humble, very hard working, well spoken.....oh...and a great back to build on 8)
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: liberty on July 28, 2006, 07:53:33 PM
Same here...his 2week out oics are mind blowing...especially those parking lot pics.

Not sure who'll be the next big thing but I'm thinking there is some other genetic freak out there who is in hiding now...being groomed...
Somewhere like the Ukraine or Siberia or maybe Poland...some kid who's mother is a hog farmer with sick freaky genetics.
Dimitrius .........     Yurolov the III.....only 17 now......what a beast  ;D
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Special Ed on July 28, 2006, 10:39:21 PM
Dennis lacks the structure to be Mister O. Better choices would be Melvin or Victor. It's been said before that you need a great back to win the O and Melvin and Victor have two of the best in the game.

Dennis has a mean most muscular and looks good in silhouette and that's about it as far as looking impressive in poses.

His front double bi is weak.
His side chest is average.
His rear double bi is weak.
His abs and thighs is weak.
His most muscular is awesome.

Special "The Menacing Truth" Ed
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: adipo8 on July 29, 2006, 04:37:46 AM
Freeman is the Future of this sport. Waist of a MIddle weight  and packed on the muscle the judges asked of him and can present him self with out huffing and puffing. Dennis looks great - sometimes - However Mr. O is for the Incredible.

Dennis is Scottie Pippen. You need him but he is not the superstar to move the sport ahead.

TRUE STORY

Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2006, 04:44:09 AM
He will never be a Mr O. Because his problem is not his mass but his high-lat(Short lat).Especialy when he hit double bi,very short and he doesnt look spectaclar.
Guy like Dexter can be Mr.O one day who dont have enough mass and beat big guys.
Then Imagine, when he(Dexter) get mass same as Dennis........
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: adipo8 on July 29, 2006, 04:49:53 AM
I hope dexter never does that ! < MASS> That would be a mistake ! Plus it is not Bodybuilding !
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2006, 06:48:10 AM
I hope dexter never does that ! < MASS> That would be a mistake ! Plus it is not Bodybuilding !
But,I think Dex can get mass without harming his proportion and quality
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: MRMD2003 on July 29, 2006, 06:58:53 PM
NEVER !!!!  GOOD BB, BUT NOT GREAT ! TOO MUCH COMP !!!!  COLEMAN, JACKSON,MARTINEZ,BADELL,CUTLER,HEATH AND WARREN ARE THE TOP CONTENDERS. THEY ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST !
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: bic_staedtler on July 29, 2006, 07:53:49 PM
The author of this post must be new to not realize any of his "major" flaws.  First and foremost...high lats.  Secondly, inability to show up dialed in condition wise.  Third, stomach distension.

That pretty much spells it out.  He'll never be a Mr Olympia, but that doesn't mean a damn thing.  He's a great bodybuilder and he has a lot of good things going for him physique wise.  But a Mr O he ain't...mainly, due to those high lats.
Title: Re: I TRULY Believe HE Will Be Mr. O Soon...
Post by: Klugscheißer on July 30, 2006, 04:49:03 AM
Good post, but I havent seen anyone mention one person who will be the next Mr. O and probably win it more times than Coleman. Phil Heath is going to be the next big Mr. O, you can bet the bank on it. There hasnt been a BB'er in yrs who can compare to him. He is almost perfect.

cheers